question about my bully's diet?

[Chief Rocca]

i have a 2 tear old bully now, well all of last summer and this winter hes been no filling out as much and he eats his food and all but just not filling out in his lower area towards his thighs and a little around his sides. hes really gamey by the way , i mean hes very cut and you can see his muscle tone alot especially in his chest and like ive said he does eat its just i cant see where his food is going on his body! lolz.
hes starting to fill out a little now ive been noticing now recently. but should i take him in to seeing if he needs to be dewormed or are they're symptoms i should be looking for if he needs to be dewormed? all input is needed. thnx.

[bahamutt99]

I'm not an experienced conditioner, but I've noticed the kind of exercise a dog gets seems to impact which areas of their body get toned. When I started weight pull training with my dog, her thighs popped, and the area around her loins became very hard. On the other hand, if we're doing a lot of flirtpole, tug, agility practice, etc., I see increased definition in her shoulders.

There's also the dog's genetics to consider. If he's "gamey," then he may not have a genetic predisposition towards very muscular thighs since from what I've seen and heard, game-bred dogs tend more towards the long, lean thigh muscles. I entered Loki in a fun show and the judge really liked her, but said what kept her from taking BIS was her thickly-muscled rear.

With regard to worming, some people believe you should worm every 6 months. I keep a liquid wormer on hand and give it once or twice a year just in case.

[dog-man]

Its pretty hard to give an opinion, whats your dogs height and weight, what do you feed it, how much and how many times per day, do you have a pic of your dog. If you really think its could be worms, have a vet do a fecal examination, here in Az its only $15.

[Old Timer]

i would get him checked for worms first.that may be your problem right there,the worms take the nutrition away from your dog wich in turn makes them skinny no matter how much they eat.does your dog have a pot belly or a hard belly? if he checks clear for worms he might just be a rangier dog.not all bulldogs and more so for your game bred ones are going to be huge.i have seen dogs over the years that looked like they was half grey hound and god knows what else but they was all bulldog.these dogs ain't meant to be 130 pounds,they are a small to med sized breed that is lean with lean muscle mass.and everything should be in check with the dogs size,meaning no over sized heads or extreme legs or chests everything should all go together.

[hrdeluxe]

i would get him checked for worms first.that may be your problem right there,the worms take the nutrition away from your dog wich in turn makes them skinny no matter how much they eat.does your dog have a pot belly or a hard belly? if he checks clear for worms he might just be a rangier dog.not all bulldogs and more so for your game bred ones are going to be huge.i have seen dogs over the years that looked like they was half grey hound and god knows what else but they was all bulldog.these dogs ain't meant to be 130 pounds,they are a small to med sized breed that is lean with lean muscle mass.and everything should be in check with the dogs size,meaning no over sized heads or extreme legs or chests everything should all go together.
Agreed. The true APBT is muscular but not bulky. A lean, agile, proportioned specimen. I hate the fact of people thinking that pits are huge overgrown creatures. It saddens me actually.

[lipshipsattitude]

If he is worm free then you migth consider that he is very barrell chested....no biggie, a common trait. Is he by chance a Razors' edge or some otehr Bullier pedigree? They tend to have overly big chests.....if thats the case keep a eye on his breathing, overheating, and exercise, big chests are prone to those as well as bloat from over feeding.

[hrdeluxe]

Marty,

Please post so the OP can see how lean Lil Bit is and how proper your dogs are.

[Red Cocaine]

Hope you don't mind me showing one of my Females

http://www.addkennels.com/IMG_5267.jpg

[Chief Rocca]

thnx everyone for youre input. my bully is really gamey. about 55 pounds and short in height. hes really lean and muscular. it seems that maybe i should work him more and more. i usually just do the flirt pole with him but maybe i should add a few weihts to him and have him drag around the yard to help tone him up. hes a very lean and cut pit. maybe ill try changing up his food as well. im feeding him regular old alpo lolz. i add a lil tuna or chicken to it as well. i think maybe he is eating good and ok and its just me. lolz.

overall hes very hyper, very active and no sign of vomiting. diarrehea , or worms in his fecal matter. very healthy to my eyes., he gets his check ups yearly along with his shots as well.

id post up a pic of him recently but idont have any. the ones i do have are on here already and he hasnt changed much just a little thicker thats it...

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/2/3/9/7/IMG_3912.jpg
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/2/3/9/7/IMG_3902.jpg

[Red Cocaine]

The standaard calls for a dog thats in perportion something like this
http://www.addkennels.com/IMG_6124.jpg

Not something like this ( I'm not bashing just showing what the standard calls for and does not )

http://www.addkennels.com/ugly9.jpg

http://www.addkennels.com/spadesm.jpg

[Chief Rocca]

yea its terrible how people just breed for the look instead for the true being of the gamey-dog.

[lipshipsattitude]

thnx everyone for youre input. my bully is really gamey. about 55 pounds and short in height. hes really lean and muscular. it seems that maybe i should work him more and more. i usually just do the flirt pole with him but maybe i should add a few weihts to him and have him drag around the yard to help tone him up. hes a very lean and cut pit. maybe ill try changing up his food as well. im feeding him regular old alpo lolz. i add a lil tuna or chicken to it as well. i think maybe he is eating good and ok and its just me. lolz.

overall hes very hyper, very active and no sign of vomiting. diarrehea , or worms in his fecal matter. very healthy to my eyes., he gets his check ups yearly along with his shots as well.

id post up a pic of him recently but idont have any. the ones i do have are on here already and he hasnt changed much just a little thicker thats it...

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/2/3/9/7/IMG_3912.jpg
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/2/3/9/7/IMG_3902.jpgOk he looks perfectly fine to me!
Alpo is a big no-no, it really seems as if your intentions are in teh right place so I'd investigate proper diet for him.....tuna and chicken are really not proper supplements. I also suggest more strengthening exercises that get the heart rate up like running in sand, swimming, things that require stamina versus strength ya know? Again, as for his build he is a beauty, pitties naturally have a high tuck.....look at Rory...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v688/sheprano08/March/100_9672.jpg
Thats what makes them sexy!!
also check this out, its my favorite guide to teh APBT body structure!
http://www.apbtconformation.com/hindquarters.htm

[Chief Rocca]

i see all you're points. thanks alot, ill better up his diet and get him working out.

[Old Timer]

thnx everyone for youre input. my bully is really gamey. about 55 pounds and short in height. hes really lean and muscular. it seems that maybe i should work him more and more. i usually just do the flirt pole with him but maybe i should add a few weihts to him and have him drag around the yard to help tone him up. hes a very lean and cut pit. maybe ill try changing up his food as well. im feeding him regular old alpo lolz. i add a lil tuna or chicken to it as well. i think maybe he is eating good and ok and its just me. lolz.

overall hes very hyper, very active and no sign of vomiting. diarrehea , or worms in his fecal matter. very healthy to my eyes., he gets his check ups yearly along with his shots as well.

id post up a pic of him recently but idont have any. the ones i do have are on here already and he hasnt changed much just a little thicker thats it...

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/2/3/9/7/IMG_3912.jpg
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/2/3/9/7/IMG_3902.jpgis he all bulldog?not being smart or nothing like that but he looks like there is something else in him.just the way he is put together.

[Old Timer]

The standaard calls for a dog thats in perportion something like this
http://www.addkennels.com/IMG_6124.jpg

Not something like this ( I'm not bashing just showing what the standard calls for and does not )

http://www.addkennels.com/ugly9.jpg

http://www.addkennels.com/spadesm.jpgi laughed when i seen that fat red one.all he needs is a big ol cigar.i don't understand what the deal is with breeding dogs to look like a fat cab driver in new york city.and that red one looks just like that to me.

[lipshipsattitude]

He does have a mastiff type build to him huh? Dogoe De Bordeaux His face looks kinda Dogue'y......he also looks like a very animated happy dog!!! No doubt he's a happy boy!

[toddrock]

The standaard calls for a dog thats in perportion something like this
http://www.addkennels.com/IMG_6124.jpg

Not something like this ( I'm not bashing just showing what the standard calls for and does not )

http://www.addkennels.com/ugly9.jpg

http://www.addkennels.com/spadesm.jpg

Wow, those have to be some of the most pathetic looking animals I've ever seen(Red Cocaine excluded, obviously!). It is really sad what people will do solely in the pursuit of "aesthetics".

[bahamutt99]

Regarding the OP's dog, I didn't see anything particularly wrong with his body. I noticed what looks like a short muzzle. Other than that, I think he looks fine. He's not super-ripped or anything, but who cares? I do agree, though, you might want to look into a better food.

[14rock]

Looks good to me, and actually thats a fairly large dog in some regards.

[chloesredboy]

thnx everyone for youre input. my bully is really gamey. about 55 pounds and short in height. hes really lean and muscular. it seems that maybe i should work him more and more. i usually just do the flirt pole with him but maybe i should add a few weihts to him and have him drag around the yard to help tone him up. hes a very lean and cut pit. maybe ill try changing up his food as well. im feeding him regular old alpo lolz. i add a lil tuna or chicken to it as well. i think maybe he is eating good and ok and its just me. lolz.

overall hes very hyper, very active and no sign of vomiting. diarrehea , or worms in his fecal matter. very healthy to my eyes., he gets his check ups yearly along with his shots as well.

id post up a pic of him recently but idont have any. the ones i do have are on here already and he hasnt changed much just a little thicker thats it...

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/2/3/9/7/IMG_3912.jpg
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/2/3/9/7/IMG_3902.jpgif you look in my gallery at joe you will see he has the samelong legged ,lean body type.Some just look like this.and yes he is 100% pit bull alot of people who think they know these dogs swear theres no way cuz hes not all short and stumpy.

[Old Timer]

if you look in my gallery at joe you will see he has the samelong legged ,lean body type.Some just look like this.and yes he is 100% pit bull alot of people who think they know these dogs swear theres no way cuz hes not all short and stumpy.actually the body looks bulldog.what made me question was his long tail and the muzzle.but like i have said over the years i have seen some that look like greyhounds and who knows what else.all and all he is in fair enough shape.i think if you change the feed you will see a improvement.

[laurajean]

Old Timer, your comments about the "fat cab driver" were very funny. Too true, that red dog needs a cigar.
Personally, I think the OP's dog looks fine, not really ripped like the pictures of some of the dogs I have seen here, but a fine looking dog.
But really, get him off the Alpo. There are a lot of threads on this forum about rating dog food.

[chloesredboy]

actually the body looks bulldog.what made me question was his long tail and the muzzle.but like i have said over the years i have seen some that look like greyhounds and who knows what else.all and all he is in fair enough shape.i think if you change the feed you will see a improvement.yeah hes 100% just not the best bred as far as blood just some byb product but i still love him!

[laurajean]

I think he is pretty. I am glad you want to take care of him and do your best for him and exercise him. I'll probably get ripped on for this, but dogs don't have to be pedigreed to be perfectly satisfactory. Plenty of "mutts" have great personalities and are perfectly healthy with no genetic defects. Of course you never know what you are getting when you get a byb dog or one from the shelter but it often works out just fine. I am not advocating back yard breeding just saying dogs of unknown provenance can work out OK.
All my dogs have been rescues and they have all been fine(not all pits, opps, I mean bully breeds), some had their problems...but most of those were from mistreatment before I got them and none of them cost me too big a fortune in vet bills. Not more than I was willing to pay for their companionship and the pleasure I had from them.

[chloesredboy]

I think he is pretty. I am glad you want to take care of him and do your best for him and exercise him. I'll probably get ripped on for this, but dogs don't have to be pedigreed to be perfectly satisfactory. Plenty of "mutts" have great personalities and are perfectly healthy with no genetic defects. Of course you never know what you are getting when you get a byb dog or one from the shelter but it often works out just fine. I am not advocating back yard breeding just saying dogs of unknown provenance can work out OK.
All my dogs have been rescues and they have all been fine(not all pits, opps, I mean bully breeds), some had their problems...but most of those were from mistreatment before I got them and none of them cost me too big a fortune in vet bills. Not more than I was willing to pay for their companionship and the pleasure I had from them.Joe wasnt a planned buy just some dumbass kids down the street had gotten him from a friend of theirs.They had him chained outside with huge tow chain around his neck when i first saw him.after about three weeks they decided he was puss and didnt want him anymore and the mom was getting tired of taking care of him since the boys decided he wasnt worth their time so i asked if they wanted to sell him( he was just so sad ,he loves people and it was killing him being ignored).well these kids couldnt believe their luck,here is this idiot wiling to pay them for a dog that wouldnt fight!so i gave them fifty bucks and took joe home.He has been the best dog in the world!!!he is so nice and happy,he loves children and everyone is his friend.It was pretty funny too,because after that the kids mom wouldnt let then get another dog.

[Old Timer]

Joe wasnt a planned buy just some dumbass kids down the street had gotten him from a friend of theirs.They had him chained outside with huge tow chain around his neck when i first saw him.after about three weeks they decided he was puss and didnt want him anymore and the mom was getting tired of taking care of him since the boys decided he wasnt worth their time so i asked if they wanted to sell him( he was just so sad ,he loves people and it was killing him being ignored).well these kids couldnt believe their luck,here is this idiot wiling to pay them for a dog that wouldnt fight!so i gave them fifty bucks and took joe home.He has been the best dog in the world!!!he is so nice and happy,he loves children and everyone is his friend.It was pretty funny too,because after that the kids mom wouldnt let then get another dog.well sounds to me like you got a bargain.50 dollars for the best friend you can have,thats pretty good in my opinion.unless your breeding seriously or into showing them and such.thats all the dog you need,infact i encourage people who ain't doing any showing or breedings to go rescue one from the pound if they will let you.they are usually much cheaper and are perfect for the task.like i said though if you change the feed you should see a diffrence.

[chloesredboy]

well sounds to me like you got a bargain.50 dollars for the best friend you can have,thats pretty good in my opinion.unless your breeding seriously or into showing them and such.thats all the dog you need,infact i encourage people who ain't doing any showing or breedings to go rescue one from the pound if they will let you.they are usually much cheaper and are perfect for the task.like i said though if you change the feed you should see a diffrence.yeah it wa a great bargain!the fact that those kids werent alowed to get anymore dogs made it that much sweeter.I am currently researching/comparing different foods ,I want to be really sure before i switch the because thay all have sensetive stomachs.

[Old Timer]

yeah it wa a great bargain!the fact that those kids werent alowed to get anymore dogs made it that much sweeter.I am currently researching/comparing different foods ,I want to be really sure before i switch the because thay all have sensetive stomachs.well if he has a sensetive stomach try and get a food with the least corn and such in it.get one made with like rice and some sort of meat it will be gentler on the stomach.

[Chief Rocca]

Thnx for all the inputs and kind jestures and all the advise and comments. To answer if chief was a mix breed to my knoweldge he is not. His parents are both pure breed his mom a rednose and his dad a brendal. I never knew why chiefs muzzle was shorter than most I've seen. Ill update with new pics. The ones I've posted up were taken when he was a just under a year..

[dog-man]

Sorry to break it to you, but other breed dogs, not just the pitbull come with red noses and are brindle, buy you have a handsome boy there. and his weight seems fine.

Thnx for all the inputs and kind jestures and all the advise and comments. To answer if chief was a mix breed to my knoweldge he is not. His parents are both pure breed his mom a rednose and his dad a brendal. I never knew why chiefs muzzle was shorter than most I've seen. Ill update with new pics. The ones I've posted up were taken when he was a just under a year..