How Do I determine A What My Pit Is

[GalDemSuga]

Hey Yall

I adopted a Pit about seven months ago. His name is Cinco and he belonged to a NFL player. Todate I havent gotten his papers and i wanted to know how can I get him documented? I'd appreciate some help.

[game_test]

why are you looking for papers? i notice he has his jewels, are you planning on breeding him? i hope not, cause the pups will end up in the same situation your dog did. please get him fixed. nice dog by the way, he looks real healthy and well taken care of. IMO,dont worry about his papers, love him the same the only good papers are is to make money peddling pups.

[game_test]

ps if im off base, forgive me. a lot of folks that come here trying to find a way to get papers on a dog is so they can sell the pups to get rich lol. i hope that isnt you.

[GalDemSuga]

why are you looking for papers? i notice he has his jewels, are you planning on breeding him? i hope not, cause the pups will end up in the same situation your dog did. please get him fixed. nice dog by the way, he looks real healthy and well taken care of. IMO,dont worry about his papers, love him the same the only good papers are is to make money peddling pups.
At some point I will breed him but unless I know what he is I wont.
ps. I'm not interested in being a breeder.

[catcher T]

there is really no way of knowing,,even with papers sometimes,,,what does the owner say he is?

[GalDemSuga]

there is really no way of knowing,,even with papers sometimes,,,what does the owner say he is?
The owner and I have never spoken. He handed Cinco off to a woman who had him in a house with an older larger Blue Male. Cinco was being attacted by the older male and he has a scar on his nose as a result. At the time I was about to purchse a Blue female but a friend begged me to adopt Cinco. The woman promised to forward his papers but never did.

[GSDbulldog]

Catcher is right. Without papers from a responsible, reputable breeder you have absolutely no way of determining if your dog is purebred or not.

Regardless, being purebred and having "pretty" papers does not make a dog breeding-quality. The sheer number of pit bulls already in existance is overwhelming. Every year thousands are euthanized in shelters across the nation. That is thousands of purebred, sound, and healthy American Pit Bull Terriers (And many a blue dog, I might add). Even "just one litter" adds so much to the problem. Unless your dog is, and has proved, to be a worthy example of the breed, I would advise you against breeding him.

Please read the following sites for more information:

http://www.happypitbull.com/overpop.htm
http://www.pitbulllovers.com/pit-bull-puppies.html
http://www.pitbulllovers.com/blue-pitbull-puppy.html
http://www.workingpitbull.com/breeder.htm

You also seem to be hooked up on the color blue. Color is not everything, and blue pit bulls are literally a dime-a-dozen. Please read up on what makes a responsible breeder.

My best advice is to love him like the pet he is. Perhaps get involved in some weight pull or conformation classes (Even without papers, the UKC & ADBA have ILP programs in which altered animals can compete in).

[Michele]

why are you looking for papers? i notice he has his jewels, are you planning on breeding him? i hope not, cause the pups will end up in the same situation your dog did. please get him fixed. nice dog by the way, he looks real healthy and well taken care of. IMO,dont worry about his papers, love him the same the only good papers are is to make money peddling pups.

ditto........

[GalDemSuga]

I'd be very happy if folks would stick to the question at hand. I'm aware of the breed and its issues, hence, my decision to adopt him. So please keep the lectures to yourselves.

[GSDbulldog]

I'd be very happy if folks would stick to the question at hand. I'm aware of the breed and its issues, hence, my decision to adopt him. So please keep the lectures to yourselves.http://www.adbadog.com/p_pdetails.asp?fpid=5
http://www.ukcdogs.com/Registration.htm

Both registries also offer limited-registration programs for dogs to compete in fun events.

[Michele]

I'd be very happy if folks would stick to the question at hand. I'm aware of the breed and its issues, hence, my decision to adopt him. So please keep the lectures to yourselves.i don't think anyone is lecturing you....i think what people are doing is giving you really good advice...

[Ms. Anthrope]

I'd be very happy if folks would stick to the question at hand. I'm aware of the breed and its issues, hence, my decision to adopt him. So please keep the lectures to yourselves.
You can get him CKC registered if ya want... but that dosnt mean anything, except its name is on a piece of paper.... Dont get you panties in a bunch... everyone just dosnt want you to breed a rescue dog... rescues are rescued to be pets.... Ya hes a gorgeous animal, but honestly, that dosnt mean sh*t...

and what up with the picture of him chewin on his wanker??!! jeez dude.... yuck!

[Patch O' Pits]

There is absolutely no way to prove his heritage without him coming from a reputible source and with papers. I wouldn't trust an owner who was just dumping a dog to be honest about anything.

He is a cute dog.

Just curious though as to what makes you think he is breeding quality. Even with papers that wouldn't prove him to be worthy

I'm sure he is however a great pet

Honestly, you also will not find any reputible breeder willing to use a stud who is unpapered.

I'm glad you took the time to resvue him so he didn't end up in a shelter or bad sitaution

Good luck with your dog

[catcher T]

I'd be very happy if folks would stick to the question at hand. I'm aware of the breed and its issues, hence, my decision to adopt him. So please keep the lectures to yourselves.
no need to get crappy,,,alot of us see this first hand and want people with unaltered dogs to realize this,,,we see more people that do not have a clue then do,,and whats with the pic of his icky red thing sticking out? LOL

[maximusflys]

if you don't know how to go about getting papers than you have noclus about breeding. Leave it to the professionals. Papers is not a reason to breed.

[BoogiemanBlood]

I'd be very happy if folks would stick to the question at hand. I'm aware of the breed and its issues, hence, my decision to adopt him. So please keep the lectures to yourselves.if you are well aware of the issues this breed is facing, why would you say you were going to breed a rescue dog? look it really appears as though you are caught up in the "blue dog fad" i'm not saying you are, i'm just telling you that is how it appears to people who have read your posts. most everyone here is dedicated to the preservation of the APBT in it's purest form from the origins it came from. hence some of the advice handed out to you. advice....not lecture.

to the question you posed......it has been answered several times. there is absolutely no way to tell. sorry we can't be more help than that. :cool:

[Old Timer]

there ain't no way of knowing what he is unless you get the original papers from the owner or you can get in touch with the breeder and see if he can get them for you some way.and on the breeding issue i have a feeling no matter what anyone tells you, you will peddle him around some neighboor hood or find some way to start breeding him to make ''big bucks'' off of the pups and get your ''kennel'' off the ground.but for what it is worth i am gonna tell you the right thing to do.neuter the dog and keep it as a pet and if thats not what your looking for neuter him and adopt him out to someone who wants that.then do some research and try and get hands on experince with real APBT's wich will take you many many years then maybe you can try and have one good litter from dogs that are worthy to be bred.but keep in mind before you ever make a breeding you be ready to keep each and every one of them dogs,even if you sell them or give them to other people and 9 years from then they don't want it anymore.you always take the animal back.now take the advice for what you think it is worth.

[GalDemSuga]

Man you folks are blowing me with your intrusive comments as to what my intentions may or maynot be. This isnt my first dog or my first pit. As mentioned before, I'm aware of the breed's problems. Whether I choose to breed Cinco or not is my decision and right as his owner, so enough already.

[GalDemSuga]

i don't think anyone is lecturing you....i think what people are doing is giving you really good advice...
I dont recall asking for anyone's advice on this matter, do you?

[GSDbulldog]

No need to get defensive when it looks like you're considering making a damn stupid decision.

-GSD

[Old Timer]

Man you folks are blowing me with your intrusive comments as to what my intentions may or maynot be. This isnt my first dog or my first pit. As mentioned before, I'm aware of the breed's problems. Whether I choose to breed Cinco or not is my decision and right as his owner, so enough already.you know the problems yet you still want to possiablly breed a sub par unkown animal that might not even be full blooded bulldog.i can tell by what you have to say that you don't give a shit about the problems that we as responsiable owners and the dogs are facing.you said he was owned by a ''NFL player" and now your wanting papers on him.sounds to me boy like your looking for as many things as you can to make as much money as you can off this dog.your the reason the breed is in the shape it is in today.i am so damn tired of you backyard breeding scum who are to lazy to get up off your ass and get a job to support yourselfs.you would rather breed the nuts off your dog instead of working,people like you make me sick i just wish i could put a 45 right between your kinds eyes.

[GalDemSuga]

No need to get defensive when it looks like you're considering making a damn stupid decision.

-GSD
Apparently my level of intellect is far inferior to everyone who's responded to this thread. I wonder how that happened? Is having everyone's opinion shoved upon me a requirement for seeking some advice. In that case, no thank you folks, I'll figure it out myself.

[Big Rod]

Man you folks are blowing me with your intrusive comments as to what my intentions may or maynot be. This isnt my first dog or my first pit. As mentioned before, I'm aware of the breed's problems. Whether I choose to breed Cinco or not is my decision and right as his owner, so enough already.

I wish someone would neuter you. Im sorry, but i just have no patience for someone with so much ignorance.

[BoogiemanBlood]

Apparently my level of intellect is far inferior to everyone who's responded to this thread. I wonder how that happened? Is having everyone's opinion shoved upon me a requirement for seeking some advice. In that case, no thank you folks, I'll figure it out myself.your question was answered as you asked. you gave out the information that you were going to breed the dog, so if you don't want it talked about you shouldn't have posted it. it is pretty evident your level of intellect is far inferior to alot of people on here, so why don't you just peddle your ass on over to some other bully site and get your answers! good day!

edit: oh better yet.....maybe the NFL could tell you what your dogs ped is....LMAO

[GSDbulldog]

This is a public forum, expect a variety of replies.

[maximusflys]

I can see the ad now.

Pit puppies for sale. Grandad was owned by NFL superstar so an so. One of a kind. $2000 each. Serious buyers only. 619-4321-1BYB

[BoogiemanBlood]

I can see the ad now.

Pit puppies for sale. Grandad was owned by NFL superstar so an so. One of kind. $2000 each. Serious buyers only. 619-4321-1BYBlmfao.....not really funny but putting it in the ad form really is! especially the phone # TFF!

[Ms. Anthrope]

Apparently my level of intellect is far inferior to everyone who's responded to this thread. I wonder how that happened? Is having everyone's opinion shoved upon me a requirement for seeking some advice. In that case, no thank you folks, I'll figure it out myself.
You ignorant little brat! you are throwing a temper tantrim because we are right and you are wrong?? dont breed it!! ya, its blue... big flippin deal!! That dosnt mean a damn thing!! I had a dog throw a blue... out of a red and a white/black bitch... I neutered it and gave it away... If you want to breed it, fine... go for it... but your not going to be any better than the rest of the idiots that breed their dog becuase its pretty....You want to add to the population of APBTs that are faught and thrown in the dumpster?? Whatever.... I hope your dogs nuts fall off..... for the breeds futures sake...

[Ms. Anthrope]

I can see the ad now.

Pit puppies for sale. Grandad was owned by NFL superstar so an so. One of kind. $2000 each. Serious buyers only. 619-4321-1BYB
HA HA HA!! awesome....

[CrazyK9]

God, I just looked at some of your posts back in 05 and 06... :rolleyes: How ignorant can you be? Letting a young female in heat off leash in an apartment complex, thinking APBTs are supposed to be an average of 60lbs or more, and now this... Nobody here is going to give you advice on how to get your dog registered so you can stud him out and make some quick $. Normally I wouldn't be so outright abrasive but your replies in this thread just show how far your head is up your ass.

[Attila]

Hey Yall

I adopted a Pit about seven months ago. His name is Cinco and he belonged to a NFL player. Todate I havent gotten his papers and i wanted to know how can I get him documented? I'd appreciate some help.
That isn't a APBT it is a Bully and also isn't worth breading. too big, not proven, clip the balls and have a good pet.

[Verderben]

Apparently my level of intellect is far inferior to everyone who's responded to this thread. I wonder how that happened? Is having everyone's opinion shoved upon me a requirement for seeking some advice. In that case, no thank you folks, I'll figure it out myself.Your right your level of intellect is obviously INFERIOR. You said it not me ;)

[Lethalpits]

I'm just gonna' jump in real quick. I'm not one to say much, but why would you think about breeding something that you had to take off someone else's hands? Your dog is a hand me down from a hand me down that belonged to a 'NFL football player'. Apparently he didn't want it for some reason and neither did person B, so why make more unwanted dogs? Surely an NFL player has the facilities for a dog to be taken care of, must've been a real worthy dog for him to toss him out like that.

As far as finding out your pedigree on him, I would be trying to contact everyone you know who's had a hand on that dog, and eventually you'll find the original owners who made mega cheese of the football player. But hey at least you'll get to talk to a football player in your quest. GL.

[ABK]

and what up with the picture of him chewin on his wanker??!! jeez dude.... yuck!I was thinking the same thing! Surely if you're going to post a pic of your dog, let it be a pic of the dog's face of something, not of of licking it's privates! Jeez!

But back on topic - you cannot find out what type of bloodline he is. The woman probably did not & will not turn over the papers to you b/c the dog IS a rescue & rescues are not meant to be bred.

And I have to agree w/ Lethal - did you not question why this dog has gone through so many hands before you decided to breed it? I know I would have.

IMO just have your boy neutered & enjoy him for the pet he is.

Good luck!

[cheekymunkee]

Your right your level of intellect is obviously INFERIOR. You said it not me ;)
Bwahahahahahahaha!!!! That's funny right there, I don't care WHO ya are!

[cheekymunkee]

And if you know so damn much, why are you thinking of breeding this mutt?

[MercedesMama]

Apparently my level of intellect is far inferior to everyone who's responded to this thread. I wonder how that happened? Is having everyone's opinion shoved upon me a requirement for seeking some advice. In that case, no thank you folks, I'll figure it out myself.
You posted a question on an open, public forum, what did you expect to hear? Some sugar coated, happy, what you wanted to hear answer, or the truth? If you cant handle the answers you're getting, then dont post questions. These people are offering you good advice, my advice to you is take it. Spay/neuter and let that be that. Unless that dog has proven his worth, no need to breed.

[Zane-insane]

My question....thought it may be a little off topic.Why on earth does the dog in the original posters post look green?Just curious...

[Attila]

My question....thought it may be a little off topic.Why on earth does the dog in the original posters post look green?Just curious...
Hell I thought it was yellow like pollen or mustard dust. lol

[WWII]

Wow, another blue stud that looks like every other blue stud that will produce more blue carbon-copy studs. Hats off to you:rolleyes:

[catcher T]

You posted a question on an open, public forum, what did you expect to hear? Some sugar coated, happy, what you wanted to hear answer, or the truth? If you cant handle the answers you're getting, then dont post questions. These people are offering you good advice, my advice to you is take it. Spay/neuter and let that be that. Unless that dog has proven his worth, no need to breed.Mr Inferior,,,,you posted and don't want opinions?,,hmmmm,,,,talk about stupid schitt to say! go ahead and breed puppies for the pound

[Chopper]

Man this saddens me, more mutts are going to be peddaled because the owners think there ''pit'' looks good. He or she claimes there smart or what ever but aparently are just trying to make some money. You can not get your dog registered in any registery that is worth anything so there's your answer. Since you can not do that you have no clue if your dog is full ''pit'' or not and should not breed him rather u like it or not.