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Michele
02-18-2007, 08:35 AM
My friend's APBT is a male, 5 years old. For the past 2 weeks the dog has been acting out. First, he started peeing in the house. They took him to the vet and he has no UTI. Then, he took the woman's doll (from her doll collection) and ripped it to shreds. The dog did this while the guy and girl were in the room. The guys work schedule has changed. He used to come home for lunch every day and now he cant. Could this be the problem? He no longer is peeing in the house. The dog is the only dog in the household. This is the first time he has acted out and tore something up. Any advise is appreciated. Thanks...




Riptora
02-18-2007, 08:53 AM
Well, the peeing was from the UTI, so that should have NOTHING to do with ANYTHING because he stopped after treatment, so, that should be completely ERASED from the mind. I am emphasizing this because I get the feeling someone is keeping a mental list of "Bad things my dog is doing" but this isn't a behavioral problem, it was medical.

The dog is starting to show some signs that will only get worse unless things change. The dog is bored and lonely. It's that simple. Dogs are incredibly intelligent! Problem-solving intelligent! and dogs like the APBT are incredibly ACTIVE to add to that! They are also very family oriented.

The owner needs to do some things to ensure the dog is getting enough physical, mental, and emotional stimulation. Walk and/or run the dog in the mornings before heading to work. Provide lots of toys that are fun and rotate them every day. Also, make sure the dog gets love in the end. OH! and training... that is what love is to many dogs. http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

A pet is not like "owning" anything else because you can't turn it off.

Phebes
02-18-2007, 09:55 AM
Well, the peeing was from the UTI, so that should have NOTHING to do with ANYTHING because he stopped after treatment, so, that should be completely ERASED from the mind. I am emphasizing this because I get the feeling someone is keeping a mental list of "Bad things my dog is doing" but this isn't a behavioral problem, it was medical.

The dog is starting to show some signs that will only get worse unless things change. The dog is bored and lonely. It's that simple. Dogs are incredibly intelligent! Problem-solving intelligent! and dogs like the APBT are incredibly ACTIVE to add to that! They are also very family oriented.

The owner needs to do some things to ensure the dog is getting enough physical, mental, and emotional stimulation. Walk and/or run the dog in the mornings before heading to work. Provide lots of toys that are fun and rotate them every day. Also, make sure the dog gets love in the end. OH! and training... that is what love is to many dogs. http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

A pet is not like "owning" anything else because you can't turn it off.
My friend's APBT is a male, 5 years old. For the past 2 weeks the dog has been acting out. First, he started peeing in the house. They took him to the vet and he has no UTI. Then, he took the woman's doll (from her doll collection) and ripped it to shreds. The dog did this while the guy and girl were in the room. The guys work schedule has changed. He used to come home for lunch every day and now he cant. Could this be the problem? He no longer is peeing in the house. The dog is the only dog in the household. This is the first time he has acted out and tore something up. Any advise is appreciated. Thanks...

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pennsooner
02-18-2007, 10:00 AM
Of course people might suggest NILF. But it sounds like the dog is being a brat because of LACK of exercise. A tired dog is a good dog and if you make dogs sit around all the time then they WILL act out (or any with any fire will). This is just my take and I could well be wrong. I haven't seen the dog and don't know how much the guy exercises the dog. But some dogs need a LOT of exercise to be happy and well adjusted. Same is true of people too, thats why our sedentary culture so bad for both people and dogs. Both of us were meant to be on the move (with our feet) quite a bit. WAY up the exercise and do some positive traning or ANYTHING (weightpull, agility, whatever) to exercise the dogs mind and body.


If its real cold where he is he might consider buying a treadmill for the dog.

Attila
02-18-2007, 10:10 AM
autistic dog. lol ya dogs don't like change sometimes. Those dolls freak me out too. Good dog. lol

Michele
02-18-2007, 10:50 AM
autistic dog. lol ya dogs don't like change sometimes. Those dolls freak me out too. Good dog. lol

LOL....you crack me up.......but yes, dolls freak me out too....hehe....

ok, i'm going to suggest getting a treadmill, although these people have acres and acres of land that the dog runs around on, I still think a treadmill is a good idea. Thanks everyone....for the fast answers:)

ChiaPit
02-18-2007, 11:09 AM
My husband gets home before I do (at 3:30 I get home at 5:30) and he says that when it gets time for me to get home Big Girl and Paco pace back and forth, they know I'm about to pull up and when they hear my truck they get all excited. Dogs don't know that schedules change, their days are marked by routines, feeding time, sleeping time, walk time, etc. Maybe the dog was just frustrated by the change in schedule and didn't know what to do with that energy. If so, I am sure that after an adjustment period, he will be fine.

FearlessKnight
02-18-2007, 01:17 PM
My husband gets home before I do (at 3:30 I get home at 5:30) and he says that when it gets time for me to get home Big Girl and Paco pace back and forth, they know I'm about to pull up and when they hear my truck they get all excited. Dogs don't know that schedules change, their days are marked by routines, feeding time, sleeping time, walk time, etc. Maybe the dog was just frustrated by the change in schedule and didn't know what to do with that energy. If so, I am sure that after an adjustment period, he will be fine. I was leaning towards this earlier, because when my husbands schedule and mine had changed this one week in particular, got home and Tabious had over turuned his dog house and water and everything, which was odd because NORMALLY he doesn't do that. But that particular week he did, and I think it had something to with the fact that nobody was getting home until late that week, which was about 4-5 hours later than normal. They get used to things like we do. When something changes, they tend to change a little too.
My little mutt dog stays in the house when we are at work and is let out before and after....he is so east to deal with. But with him being in that terrier family, he has a high energy level. SOmetimes he doesn't like to get up too early and will let out late. But then brought back due to us leaving for work. So the most of the day is spent in the house......in the end he will soemtimes go crazy.......starts pouncing the floor, snapping (playfully) has been known to chew something up, but only at that given time. A little more excersice was all he needed.

Suki
02-18-2007, 06:31 PM
i agree with:

the change in routine theory.
i think once he has adjusted, he'll be ok.
and agreed: a tired dog is a good thing! ;)

LuvinBullies
02-18-2007, 09:59 PM
My friend's APBT is a male, 5 years old. For the past 2 weeks the dog has been acting out. First, he started peeing in the house. They took him to the vet and he has no UTI. Then, he took the woman's doll (from her doll collection) and ripped it to shreds. The dog did this while the guy and girl were in the room. The guys work schedule has changed. He used to come home for lunch every day and now he cant. Could this be the problem? He no longer is peeing in the house. The dog is the only dog in the household. This is the first time he has acted out and tore something up. Any advise is appreciated. Thanks...
Our senior APBT (RIP) would NEVER have an accident in the house...ever. I went out of town and left her behind with my husband (she always came with me to my parents house except this time). When I came home and greeted them- she seemed a little put out but I shrugged it off. That night she wasn't waiting in bed for us as usual, she was on the couch. Again I shrugged it off and climbed into bed...to find my pillow sopping wet. She must have saved every ounce of her tee tee that day for the hour before I went to bed. That girl knew what she was doing.:p

Ms. Anthrope
02-18-2007, 10:16 PM
IMO, the dog is freakin out because things have changed... He might need a hobby... if you cant run out and get a tread mill... does it like to chew?? go get him/her a nice meaty soup bone... My huse dog will chew his feet out of boredom... so he has soup bones... the mill is a good idea, except they can be expensive, and in some places they are considered dog fighting paraphanilia (not sure how to spell that... lol) play tug-o-war in the house or fetch in the house if you can... (down a hallway??) anything to wear them down...

Michele
02-20-2007, 07:28 AM
Here's some pictures of Duke...


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/duke2.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/Duke.jpg

ChiaPit
02-20-2007, 09:01 AM
Oh, he looks too sweet to do anything bad...That was definately an accident...He did not mean to shred it!!!;)

Chef-Kergin
02-20-2007, 09:21 AM
Don't go get a treadmill! That's paraphanelia!!!! Can you imagine what ppl would think if they saw a dog exercising on a treadmill to burn energy?

"Oh, they *must* fight their dogs, thay have a treadmill for it."

But with the chewing, I've always had a plethora of bones, hides, & bull sticks the dogs can chew on laying around. I have never had a dog tear up any slippers, pillows, papers, anything at all. I think the three 2 mile walks a day help (I get two during the day, as I work nights, and the wifey takes them on the last one before they eat at night since she works days), that and the pile of chewy things for them.

From the time my pup was about 9 to 12 or 13 weeks old, I had to constantly follow her around in put a chew-toy in her mouth when she started poking around and diggin through the closet, behind the couches, etc. Now when she comes inside off of her chain, her house manners are great! She sits on the dog bed by the register, and chews until she's let back out or the bone is gone. She loves chewing so much, we make sure if she's inside when nieces, nephews, cousins, or grandparents come over, they make her focus on them, sit, lay down, and stay for the bone, and then she's their best friend. Next time they come over, (at least her memory's good so far) she won't be so excited to jump on them if they go outback to see her or if she's inside, becuase she waits patiently for her bone.

If your friend's husband can't come home for lunch, why don't he wake up an hour earlier and take the dog on a wlk or directly when he gets home from work? It does look a little cold in that pic, but maybe they should be keeping him a bit more active He looks kind of heavy?

Michele
02-20-2007, 09:25 AM
Oh, he looks too sweet to do anything bad...That was definately an accident...He did not mean to shred it!!!;)
thanks....this past weekend he was fine. I think it's the change in the routine. He might of been having a bit of separation anxiety. They do exercise him alot in the morning before work.

BoiBoi
02-20-2007, 09:45 AM
um ok so since they have acres and acres of land like u said, why not just set up a really nice big chain spot for him during the day while they are gone. The dog can get all the excersize he needs while on the chain and will never be bored because there will always be birds or other animals around that can keep the dog busy.

Chef-Kergin
02-20-2007, 09:57 AM
oh, because chaining a dog is "wrong" to some AR ppl.

when aubrey turned 4.5-5 mos old, she got in a habit of going out to the bathroom, and she wouldn't come back inside for hours.

my wife pleaded with me not to put her on a chain. I told her that's where she needs to be.

She runs all day long hitting the end of her chain at anything that comes by (although she don't hit it too hard, she's only 19 lbs) and stays active all day. She sleep in her crate inside at night (it's still mighty cold here in OH but she'll be outside day & night come March), but at 6 am after I get up, it's out on the chain. My wife basically has to drag her in the house at night to crate her up. When she comes back in the yard from her walks, you know where she runs to? Her chain spot. And wags her tail while I buckle her collar through the ring.

You give that big dog a 17-20 ft chain, or put it on a cable run, and he'll burn a good amount of energy.

Michele
02-20-2007, 10:01 AM
i dont know if they will go for the "chain" suggestion but I will tell them. I'll get an update the end of this week. These people treat Duke like a human, which IMO, is not too good. Duke has never ever acted out until the guy's schedule changed. I think once he adapts to this new schedule, he should be ok.

Michele
02-20-2007, 10:03 AM
um ok so since they have acres and acres of land like u said, why not just set up a really nice big chain spot for him during the day while they are gone. The dog can get all the excersize he needs while on the chain and will never be bored because there will always be birds or other animals around that can keep the dog busy.
this is a great idea but these people keep him in the house while they are working. I think they might be nervous about someone stealing him, I don't know. For years, this dog had free rein of the house, and was always good. This just started when the guy's schedule changed. So, now he doesnt come home for lunch anymore.

Chef-Kergin
02-20-2007, 10:09 AM
maybe that's why he's fat, b/c he sits on a couch all day.......

Michele
02-20-2007, 10:16 AM
maybe that's why he's fat, b/c he sits on a couch all day.......
now, now.....:p

BoiBoi
02-20-2007, 10:24 AM
maybe that's why he's fat, b/c he sits on a couch all day.......
LOL amen to that...i don't understand people sometimes, they try to do everything possible to make their dog happy, but what they are doing is trying to make a dog happy the same way they make humans happy. IMO dogs are much much happier being outside than they are being locked up in a house all day long. I don't know maybe im part dog because im definately happier when i get to be outside after im done work but maybe im talkin crazy by wanting an animal to be in its own environment and a human to be in their own environment. Now i have nothin wrong with bringing ur dog in with u to hang out or whatever but when that dog starts sleeping on ur bed or pretty much doing whatever it feels like in ur house, i believe the human/animal relationship has been ruined and that will result in problems like this one. Tell ur friends to start treating the dog like a dog or their lives will be disrupted with on going problems

Chef-Kergin
02-20-2007, 10:31 AM
If they've babied him and treated him like a kid that long, I'm honestly surprised the dog didn't start acting out sooner.

I read somewhere a dog's short-term memory is the neighborhood of 3-4 mins (correct me if I'm wrong) and so, if the dog's on a couch for 15 minutes or 8 hours while the owner is gone, it's an eternity to the dog. Same with being on a chain. they ain't gonna hurt the damn animal's feelings. Dogs don't rationalize. If they put Duke on a chain, he'll be just as excited to see them if they come out to run him every hour, or if they leave him out there and only come out to feed him a couple times a day and walk him once. Tell your friends their dog isn't human.

This goes for resuces, too. I saw on the Dog whisperer , and he maes a good point, that ppl dwell on the bad sh*t that happened to a dog, and baby them, and that's why they have hellians as pets. The dog don't care to be reminded why it was rescued, it just wants to be a dog.

Like I bet Duke wants to be, a dog, not a couch potato.

Michele
02-20-2007, 10:33 AM
I agree with you both on this. I'm guilty of it myself with my chihuahua to some degree.

BoiBoi
02-20-2007, 10:37 AM
I agree with you both on this. I'm guilty of it myself with my chihuahua to some degree.
LOL how funny would it be to see a chihuahua on a chain setup and a pitbull stairing outside at it lol im cracking up just picturing the site lol

Chef-Kergin
02-20-2007, 10:39 AM
i'd lock that ankle/child-biting monster up in a kennel until i found something better to do with it. do you trust it around kids?

Michele
02-20-2007, 10:42 AM
LOL how funny would it be to see a chihuahua on a chain setup and a pitbull stairing outside at it lol im cracking up just picturing the site lol
LMAOOOO....that is funny. Obviously, you can't compare an APBT to a chihuahua. I know that both breeds are dogs but they are different. My chihuahua sleeps with me every night and he is spoiled. With the APBT, you must be, I think, a bit more disciplined with them. If i'm off base, someone correct me. Thanks.

Michele
02-20-2007, 10:44 AM
i'd lock that ankle/child-biting monster up in a kennel until i found something better to do with it. do you trust it around kids?
You talking about Duke or my chihuahua. My chihuahua loves everyone, and he adores kids. He went to bite someone only once. This guy (who was an ass anyways) bent over me while my dog was in my lap and my dog went for him.

Chef-Kergin
02-20-2007, 10:45 AM
and being disciplined with them is not leaving them to roam free in your house all day while you work. it'd be keeping it properly contained and exercised. maybe your friends should make their own account here so they can learn how to properly care for their dog.

also, i hope this site continues to help you learn about your game-dog chihuahua, or be the apbt liason for all of your friends that need help with their dogs, or any other agenda you might have ;)

*edit* yes, i was talking about the chihuahua. see, it bit at someone already once, maybe you should put it down before it starts pulling babies out of carriages and eating them in the steet, or before it gets loose in an apartment building and mauls an old woman.

Michele
02-20-2007, 10:51 AM
and being disciplined with them is not leaving them to roam free in your house all day while you work. it'd be keeping it properly contained and exercised. maybe your friends should make their own account here so they can learn how to properly care for their dog.

also, i hope this site continues to help you learn about your game-dog chihuahua, or be the apbt liason for all of your friends that need help with their dogs, or any other agenda you might have ;)

*edit* yes, i was talking about the chihuahua. see, it bit at someone already once, maybe you should put it down before it starts pulling babies out of carriages and eating them in the steet, or before it gets loose in an apartment building and mauls an old woman.
hehe.....this forum is great for learning about the APBT. I don't have one myself but the breed is magnificant and in my eyes, the most loyal dog anyone can have.

As far as the chihuahua, i wish he would of bit the guy. :D

ChiaPit
02-20-2007, 11:45 AM
Yeah, Big Girl is my fun dog...Paco the chihuahua is my protection dog! Actually my Chihuahua is very good natured but a friend of mine has two of them that bite EVERYONE....I still have a scar on my leg from the last time I went over her house. :(

Michele
02-20-2007, 11:53 AM
ChiaPit: this is for you......a new addition to my friends family:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/tito.jpg

ChiaPit
02-20-2007, 01:20 PM
ChiaPit: this is for you......a new addition to my friends family:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Michelejc/tito.jpg
OH!! How sweet!What a cutie!!