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chloesredboy
02-13-2007, 10:26 PM
I am really starting to go crazy with my spayed female,chloe.She has always had DA but for the past few weeks she has been out of control.I am even considering getting her a muzzle.She is constantly jumping at the other dogs for no reason I have been lucky so far as the other two have no fight in them and no one has been injured.She wont let the other dogs walk through the hallway beacause i have a cockatiel in the office and she guards the door because she knows that the bird food is in there.She doesnt want me to pet the other dogs she tries to attack them if they come near me,she even has started guarding the trash can so that i have to hide it in the utilitie room which is also where i keep the dog food so she is now guarding that door.She wont let Joe in our bedroom at night because she sleeps in there.She is also now trying to dominate me by doing things like siting on the back of the couch above me and standing on me.when she fights with the other dogs I cant beat her because that just makes her act worse she starts shivering and foaming at the mouth.I know her problem is dominance aggression but my question is has anyone elase had this problem,and is there any kind of training or behavior modification that might work ?I am more than willing to spend the money if there is or is this just part of having these dogs and would it be a waste of time and money taking her for training.All my dogs are registered full blood dogs and the other two never act like this.
FearlessKnight
02-13-2007, 10:40 PM
Just my person insight here but, it sounds more like simple flat-out jealousy than DA. I think I would be trying to teach her/him who has the upper hand!
chloesredboy
02-13-2007, 10:58 PM
Just my person insight here but, it sounds more like simple flat-out jealousy than DA. I think I would be trying to teach her/him who has the upper hand!LOL! thats exactly what my mom said "she's just jealous and wants you all to her self"
FearlessKnight
02-13-2007, 11:21 PM
Yes that is what is sounds like. I am not saying that yor dog is not DA, but THIS sounds like jealousy......and sometimes could lead to a bad thing. It needs to be corrected.
chloesredboy
02-13-2007, 11:29 PM
Yes that is what is sounds like. I am not saying that yor dog is not DA, but THIS sounds like jealousy......and sometimes could lead to a bad thing. It needs to be corrected.Any ideas how ?as i said before beating her only makes her act worse
FearlessKnight
02-13-2007, 11:36 PM
Well first of all, not to sound rude or anything, but beating anything or anybody never really helps a whole lot, especially with a dog. Give me a minute or two and I will post you a link that will help...
well here ya go:
http://www.k9deb.com/nilif.htm
http://www.ddfl.org/behavior/nilif.pdf
This one here is more of a step by step...guide
Hope it helps. I would have typed it, but its a lot to type!
chloesredboy
02-13-2007, 11:44 PM
Well first of all, not to sound rude or anything, but beating anything or anybody never really helps a whole lot, especially with a dog. Give me a minute or two and I will post you a link that will help...
well here ya go:
http://www.k9deb.com/nilif.htm
http://www.ddfl.org/behavior/nilif.pdf
This one here is more of a step by step...guide
Hope it helps. I would have typed it, but its a lot to type!Thanks for the link I am going to look at it now and I understand what youre sayin I am being a little dramatic I dont neccesarily beat her just a pop on the mouth when she bites
miakoda
02-14-2007, 11:41 AM
Crate and rotate. These dogs weren't bred to be buddy-buddy house companions with other dogs.
Michele
02-14-2007, 11:43 AM
what about NILIF?
Michele
02-14-2007, 11:45 AM
I really don't think this will fix the problem....if anything, it might make it worse
Lethalpits
02-14-2007, 11:50 AM
Crate and rotate. These dogs weren't bred to be buddy-buddy house companions with other dogs.
This would be your best bet with APBTs. This is what I do.
Sounds like Nothing In Life Is Free (NILIF) time!!!!
And yes, do as Mia said. Crate & rotate. These dogs were not meant to live together in dog packs & eventually one of your dogs is going to get hurt or killed.
davidlau_2002
02-14-2007, 11:54 AM
she thinks she is alpha. you need to take over the alpha role and quick. she is assuming all these guard roles bc she feels she needs to fill a power vacuum. take it over. the more you call the shots the less she has to. i know for sure you love your dogs but like said above, seperate this dog from others and dominate it mentally not physically. she could be an accident waiting to happen if you let this go on further without correction.
wheezie
02-14-2007, 01:01 PM
ive heard so many talk of crate and rotate. do yall do this as a pemanent solution or a temporary?
MercedesMama
02-14-2007, 01:17 PM
ive heard so many talk of crate and rotate. do yall do this as a pemanent solution or a temporary?
When we got Ozzy, Mercedes was not happy. She was fine for the first 2 or 3 days, she had been around him before in short intervals and they always got along. Well once she realized that he was staying, she tried to kill him, numerous times. We did the crate and rotate for about 3 or 4 weeks. One day Blaize let them out at the same time, and to our surprise they were fine, and have been fine since. The only time she acts up with him is if he takes her toys. So in our case it was temporary. But I am sure in some cases it may be permanent.
GSDbulldog
02-14-2007, 01:26 PM
ive heard so many talk of crate and rotate. do yall do this as a pemanent solution or a temporary?
Pernament. I keep mine seperated, but am not a fan of long-term crating. I utilize chain set-ups instead, and bring them all in at night.
Chloe, I would begin strict NILIF and consider doing one-on-one obedience with her, as it will strengthen the bond between the two of you (Not to mention a well-trained bulldog is a great ambassador for the breed). Until then, realize that she is dog aggressive and take appropriate measures to prevent any scuffles.
chloesredboy
02-15-2007, 12:05 AM
thanks for the advice i printed out the nilif pages.It seems like it might help so i started it right away the more i ignore her constant attention seeking the more she tries but she finnaly gave up last night after about two hours and went and layed down.I have been crating them alot more but the problem is that she makes these god-awfull noises when shes locked up and she will keep it up the entire time shes in there si ive been outting the other two in their crates more and i kind of feel bad like i am punishing them for her behavior.I was also curious if she is just really jealous and she sees me locking the others up when she gets started wont that just encourage her as it is giving her what she wants (all my attention)?
FearlessKnight
02-15-2007, 08:52 AM
Yes it could possibly do just that. But always remember a crate is not a form of punishment, it is an aid in training and security.
Maybe you could try putting her in the crate with something to chew on, or putting her in the crate and taking for rides sometimes, get her used to the crate a little more. Thats what we did, it worked for us! One of ours would whine like crazy and piss all over the place and then guess what...poopy time! We continued to take her in the crate to various places and when we stayed home with her in the crate gave her something to chew on, she LOVES the crate now, and does not mind being in it.
dog-man
02-15-2007, 01:47 PM
Are all your dogs pitbull, i have a 19month male pitbull (intact), 6yr old female neo mastiff and a 3 month female puppy, when im home i let them play, they get along fine, when i leave the house for any reason, i crate Achilles , my pitbull, get back home and out he goes..
chloesredboy
02-15-2007, 06:42 PM
Are all your dogs pitbull, i have a 19month male pitbull (intact), 6yr old female neo mastiff and a 3 month female puppy, when im home i let them play, they get along fine, when i leave the house for any reason, i crate Achilles , my pitbull, get back home and out he goes..yeah they are all A.P.B.T Joe and Iz are more pet bulls though!
chloesredboy
02-15-2007, 06:48 PM
Yes it could possibly do just that. But always remember a crate is not a form of punishment, it is an aid in training and security.
Maybe you could try putting her in the crate with something to chew on, or putting her in the crate and taking for rides sometimes, get her used to the crate a little more. Thats what we did, it worked for us! One of ours would whine like crazy and piss all over the place and then guess what...poopy time! We continued to take her in the crate to various places and when we stayed home with her in the crate gave her something to chew on, she LOVES the crate now, and does not mind being in it.Oh my! thanks for your advice i did put her in the crate with a chew and you know what theat little shit head did?She ate the chew up and later when i let her out she stayed by the crate guarding it all night till my boyfriend had to dismantel it an put it back up in another room!i will try the nilif for awhile but if it doesnt change i will just have to try more exstensive training shes been through onidience school but i guess we need to step it up a little.either that or call one of those crazy pet therapists i always see on animal planet!
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