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Brothermarree
12-22-2006, 10:47 PM
I need to here suggestions on how to condition this boy for ADBA show ring. Weight Pull is out He tore his ACL.
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jaystreetsA4
12-22-2006, 10:52 PM
handwalking, swimming in a pool tanks are some good ways.

BoogiemanBlood
12-22-2006, 10:55 PM
[QUOTE=Brothermarree]I need to here suggestions on how to condition this boy for ADBA show ring. Weight Pull is out He tore his ACL.

was the acl fixed? i would think working the flirt pole wouldn't be good anymore with all the cutting and turning and starting and stopping. walk walk walk walk and some springpole where his back feet could still be on or real close to the ground. :confused: i don't have any other ideas really. get him on some good food.

miakoda
12-22-2006, 11:16 PM
[QUOTE=Brothermarree]I need to here suggestions on how to condition this boy for ADBA show ring. Weight Pull is out He tore his ACL.

was the acl fixed? i would think working the flirt pole wouldn't be good anymore with all the cutting and turning and starting and stopping. walk walk walk walk and some springpole where his back feet could still be on or real close to the ground. :confused: i don't have any other ideas really. get him on some good food.
It would be a horrible one.

The only thing you can do with a dog with a torn ACL that has not been fixed is swim him/her. And occasional short walk 50 yards or so is ok every couple of days, but that's it. No long walks, no runs, no spring pole or flirtpole, no weightpull, no chase the kong in the backyard................................

Brothermarree
01-26-2007, 01:46 AM
Thanks I appriciate the info. I asked cause this guy is on the bigger side andto much bulldog for a UKC show.

The Watcher
01-26-2007, 05:21 AM
im curious how the dog tore the ACL? Its not hard to condition for dog conf. show. depending on the weight of that dog, few weeks of walking/swimmng will do.

Brothermarree
02-21-2007, 08:04 PM
im curious how the dog tore the ACL? Its not hard to condition for dog conf. show. depending on the weight of that dog, few weeks of walking/swimmng will do.Honestly he sat down wrong by wrong I mean a wierd positon and immediatly jumped up limping. I don't roll him or anything if that's what your getting at. He was a GREAT Weight Puller. Sorry I had to retire him.

Excelsior-Mom
03-14-2007, 11:43 AM
Thanks I appriciate the info. I asked cause this guy is on the bigger side andto much bulldog for a UKC show.I would think that he would do very well in a UKC show. Just do some "show Obedience" with him. Some down and backs, stop and stacks. depending on how long ago his injury was. A acl takes a very long time to heal and will always be a week spot. How long ago was the injury and who told you that it was his acl? If you don't mind me asking.

ABK
03-14-2007, 12:02 PM
I hate to say this, but I would drop the show ring idea altogether. Most dogs who have torn an ACL will always have a slight deviation to their gait. Some will favor the injured leg or swing their leg out to the side. These deviations in gait can be very slight, even to the point of being virtually imperceptable, but a judge will pick it up in a heartbeat & will count it against the dog. A dog w/ faulty movement rarely places.

Brothermarree
03-20-2007, 10:18 PM
I totally respect your point. It happened almost a year ago. I noticed his gait got better around the time it healed. I know what your saying though I actualy had ukc judge tell me he thinks he would place fine, like I said this boy is just so driven alot of the ukc ppl just don't like it. Some look at a bulldog being dog agressive or driven as bad. But hey u never know it just may be time to retire him for sure. He stil puls but I don't do weights right now and won't do heavy with him.

ABK
03-21-2007, 08:38 AM
It's not something that will go away. It may become less noticable, but it will always be there. I have a dog who tore her ACL 5 years ago & to the uneducated eye she moves like a normal dog. But if you look very closely, (like a judge will be doing) you can see an imperfection in her gait. It is vertually imperceptable, but it is there.

You can try & show if you want to, but I am telling you as someone who shows dogs & had a dog w/ the same injury, you will probably be wasting your time & money.

But if you want to tighten him up & give it a shot, do like Mia said - swimming. Any other condtioning option is out for him.

miakoda
03-21-2007, 10:38 AM
I will also try to find an article that we were all given at the clinic about new evidence showing that the majority of dogs with ACL injuries are showing genetic/hereditary weakness in that area. Although their are a few who tear that ligament & it's just a freak accident, the truth is that it's a very hard ligament to tear in both canines & humans.

And with the rapid increase in dogs being seen with torn ACLs, a large study was done to see if these dogs were genetically weak in that area. The results were quite interesting. ;)

So much so I'm not sure I would breed a dog that has torn an ACL without having it healthtested first.

And before anything is said as a rebuttal, NO ONE can know if it tore because of a freak accident or if the dogs has a serious genetic flaw that resulted in it without the appropriate health testing.

ABK
03-21-2007, 12:04 PM
What health testing is available to confirm the presence or non-presence of genetic weakness of ACL? I know they have tests for elbows, hips, eyes, cardio, thyroid, etc. but I have never heard of a test for ACLs yet.

:confused:

miakoda
03-21-2007, 12:28 PM
What health testing is available to confirm the presence or non-presence of genetic weakness of ACL? I know they have tests for elbows, hips, eyes, cardio, thyroid, etc. but I have never heard of a test for ACLs yet.

:confused:
It talks about it in the article. I dunno off hand.

ABK
03-21-2007, 12:58 PM
OK. I will see if I can find it.