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gameexchange
12-15-2006, 01:59 AM
I'm sorry folks. I know some people will hate me for this but im about to be brutely honest. Im not nor do i pretend to be the dogman of the century but it's quite amazing how many fakers there are on this site. I love the breed and what it is. It's amazing some things that people say and mean. I've heard it all. If you really love the breed and what it is, you should know what i mean, then be honest. People comment on topics they have no clue on. When a question is asked if you don't know humble yourself and take heed to what is being said. If you bash someone, have your own reasons. Not because of what you've heard from someone who heard from someone else. If you have a yard full of "PETbulls" then don't sit behind the keyboard and become Barney Fife. I still am young to the game and know there is lots to learn and that's why i ask more than i comment. For you all that are new i hope you have an honest dogman in your corner because you'll end up following the footsteps of someone who has no idea as to where they're going themselves. Last but not least, if you're offended by this then you're to sensitive to have a bulldog to begin with. Dont feel convicted. Grow up and step into the real world of gamedogs and if you aren't ready go look at some blue bullys and staff websites. Last time i checked this site was called Game-Dog.com. Maybe im wrong though.
-Cant wait for the responses




Attila
12-15-2006, 02:30 AM
Ok now that you have that off your chest lets get down to what you want to know. So far I am pleased with what you started here and am personally interested where this thread may lead to. I don't see any reason to hate you so far.

So tell me while we are being brutal and honest what is on your yard? What are you feeding? Do you cull? do you know why to cull? Are you for Game, Deep game or damn right dirty gritty crazy retarded game so game you have to lock that bitch in the barn chained in five directions to keep every thing else alive?

Is some one bashing you? if so, who? Lets get this out in the open as I am growing very tired of games and drama. Make it quick and strait.

MercedesMama
12-15-2006, 08:26 AM
Last time I checked this site was also for EDUCATION of the breed to those willing and wanting to learn. INCLUDING us "petbullers". So let's not start on that one again. Just cause we dont own game bred or working dogs doesnt mean we love this breed any less than you.

jeeperino
12-15-2006, 08:26 AM
damn right dirty gritty crazy retarded game so game you have to lock that bitch in the barn chained in five directions to keep every thing else alive?

That would be my answer.

Gameexchange, as good as this board is, it is a high profile place to talk specifics about the TRUE bulldogs. I would look for other boards that focus more on the game dogs instead of petbulls.

I myself have been turned off by the BS from time to time. Now I just ignore people or threads I have no interest in. Like Ive said before...Its amazing to me that a thread about a house pet doing something cute or funny gets more views and replys than some topics related to gamedogs and their history.

Put em on the floor,test hard and cull even harder. That is the bulldog way.

YFIS

gameexchange
12-15-2006, 09:42 AM
No one has bashed me and this is not a direct shot to anyone in particular but it gets kinda aggrevating when people aren't true. I understand that this is a site for education. In my short while on here i've honestly learned alot of information on the breed and I appreciate it. I just don't like to see people comment on what they dont know. More so for the guy who's truly seeking education and when it boils down to it the person who's trying to educate him doesn't know what the hell he's talking about and the other guy doesn't know any better. I'm not filled with hate about this just disturbed. It's kinda like how alot of people don't like puppy peddlers and for good reason not saying he doesn't know anything but he's leading you in the wrong direction to begin with. And yes I do cull HARD and i'm also a strong believer in knowing what I have in my yard before I go out with it. Right now im running some bolio dogs. It's impressing me. An old man once told me if you have two hogs in a yard and one just so happens to get loose when you're not home which ever one is through when you get back is the one you didn't need anyway. disadvantage or no disadvantage. It was kinda funny just hearing it come from an old man in his 80s.

mrsmickey351
12-15-2006, 09:43 AM
From what i've learned, heard, or read somewhere. The TRUE APBT lovers are the ones that stay true to the APBT. The true APBT is supposed to be gamebred.:confused: :confused: :confused:

pennsooner
12-15-2006, 09:53 AM
I'm not a dogman and frankly I'm none too fond of "the game" either due to all the baggage involved. However, I do love gamedogs and am trying to learn as much as I can. Also keep in mind that different people have different styles of gathering information. For example I'll sometimes throw something out and if I'm corrected by someone who knows better/more then I've learned something in the process.

Not really sure what you were saying, if you were calling out "internet doggers" or trying to suggest that only people involved in matching dogs for real should be on a site like this. Since as I understand it this sites goal is to educate and work to increase efforts to stop/roll back things like BSL then the more the merrier. I think we'd all agree the breed needs all the help it can get.

NOLEFAN
12-15-2006, 09:53 AM
gameexchange:

#1. "Last but not least, if you're offended by this then you're to sensitive to have a bulldog to begin with."

Sounds like you are the one who is offended.


#2. "Grow up and step into the real world of gamedogs and if you aren't ready go look at some blue bullys and staff websites."


I thought you said you were young and still had a lot to learn? Then who are you to preach at anybody else?

#3. " Im not nor do i pretend to be the dogman of the century but it's quite amazing how many fakers there are on this site. "

Who are the fakers?


Nobody will hate you for speaking your mind, or at least they shouldn't. Unless you live outside the US, you had better be keeping it legal. Some people get upset because they come here and expect to be able to talk about illegal activities with ambiguity of the law, and with no regard to the people who run this site and it just don't work that way. The type of people who come on here and want to talk tough about this and that and brag about this and that are not going to like it here, because it isn't tolerated. Let me help you with your liberal thinking, whether you like petbulls or not, doesn't give you the right to tell everybody else what to do with there dog. The best we can hope for is that the petbullers and the game doggers can work together and improve the tarnished image our breed has.

Phebes
12-15-2006, 10:10 AM
gameexchange:

Nobody will hate you for speaking your mind, or at least they shouldn't. Unless you live outside the US, you had better be keeping it legal. Some people get upset because they come here and expect to be able to talk about illegal activities with ambiguity of the law, and with no regard to the people who run this site and it just don't work that way. The type of people who come on here and want to talk tough about this and that and brag about this and that are not going to like it here, because it isn't tolerated. Let me help you with your liberal thinking, whether you like petbulls or not, doesn't give you the right to tell everybody else what to do with there dog. The best we can hope for is that the petbullers and the game doggers can work together and improve the tarnished image our breed has.
Amen to that!! well said

jeeperino
12-15-2006, 10:38 AM
I'm sorry to say that this breed isnt for everyone (taken from Simms). IMO it is the people who get the dogs for pets that are ruining our breed thru genetics and the media.

When it comes to the dogs I will admit I am a snob and dont care (for the most part) about what petbull owners do with their dogs. I dont think most of them should even own a pitbull to begin with, its like having Michael Jordan as a son and denying him the chance to play basketball.

mrsmickey351
12-15-2006, 10:46 AM
Well said, I agree with you. Rep points going out to you!!I'm sorry to say that this breed isnt for everyone (taken from Simms). IMO it is the people who get the dogs for pets that are ruining our breed thru genetics and the media.

When it comes to the dogs I will admit I am a snob and dont care (for the most part) about what petbull owners do with their dogs. I dont think most of them should even own a pitbull to begin with, its like having Michael Jordan as a son and denying him the chance to play basketball.

NOLEFAN
12-15-2006, 11:21 AM
I'm sorry to say that this breed isnt for everyone (taken from Simms). IMO it is the people who get the dogs for pets that are ruining our breed thru genetics and the media.

When it comes to the dogs I will admit I am a snob and dont care (for the most part) about what petbull owners do with their dogs. I dont think most of them should even own a pitbull to begin with, its like having Michael Jordan as a son and denying him the chance to play basketball.

I can agree to a certain extent, but you and i both know that people are going to do what they want anyway, so IMO the only thing that can be done is to straighten out the thinking and then hopefully the doing will follow.

I do however think that the petbulls do a great deal of positive PR work to show that the breed is a loving companion by being ot there and licking faces. We all are aware of the negative PR . IMO, the wanna-be gamers are just as much to blame for the negative image as the irresponsible petbull owbner who peddles puppies. Keep in mind too that not all petbull owners are breeding machines. Thinking that somebody is ruining the breed by having one as a pet (keeping in mind that I am referring to those that don't breed) is an absurd statement with no logical basis to argue. Those that do breed irresponsibly should be culled, both gamer and pet. I would like to see the number of so called game-doggers that breed, that really have no more of an idea what they are doing than the petbull owner. I think we would all be suprised at how many shouldn't be breeding. Personal testimony.....I have had dogs for a long time, and some pretty good ones, but lately I was blessed to receive a dog from a man I will always consider to be like my brother. This dog is above and beyond the rest. This can only be accomplished by good breeding and the knowledge to do so. I came here, learned a lot, got a real good dog since I've been here. So whats my point? The dogs didn't change, I did, and for the better. Even after owning and worjking with this breed since childhood, I had more to learn, and so do the majority of us.

semo
12-15-2006, 11:22 AM
I'm sorry to say that this breed isnt for everyone (taken from Simms). IMO it is the people who get the dogs for pets that are ruining our breed thru genetics and the media.

When it comes to the dogs I will admit I am a snob and dont care (for the most part) about what petbull owners do with their dogs. I dont think most of them should even own a pitbull to begin with, its like having Michael Jordan as a son and denying him the chance to play basketball.What is wrong with a responsible person having these dogs as a pets? I dont fully agree with this comment. You make it sound like they should be kept on a chain and [] regularly.. I am a bit confused..

awl
12-15-2006, 11:47 AM
I agree semo.

TripleJ
12-15-2006, 11:57 AM
I feel that the dogs do make great pets. After thay have proved them selfs they are not for every one and alot of people that have them should have a rottie or something like that. I feel you should cull hard to have the perfect dogs ones that are great with people and hell on wheels with anything else. I love all my game dogs and would fight for them But I also give them the best I can if I ask them to give the all they have At least you can do is the best by them. And the ONLY type of dogs I will ever have is hard game dogs. Yis J

jeeperino
12-15-2006, 11:57 AM
What is wrong with a responsible person having these dogs as a pets? I dont fully agree with this comment. You make it sound like they should be kept on a chain and [] regularly.. I am a bit confused..
I dont really see the point in having one only as a pet. There are plenty of other breeds just as well suited to be companion dogs. Having a pitbull just because its a pitbull is ignorant.

Yes, I am saying petbull owners shouldnt breed. Before you breed you should at the VERY LEAST check what you are breeding. Most dont have the knowledge or the heart to do it, so they shouldnt.

If I only had 1 apbt it would be a semi-house dog, but still have to earn its keep and prove its a real buldog. Like has been said before...No point in having a 4 cyl mustang.

This can go in circles forever, just know that most dogmen dont look at pets the same way they look at working dogs, and they DONT deserve to be in the same category or mentioned in the same breath.

miakoda
12-15-2006, 12:01 PM
Hm. I'm closing this thread because I'm tired of the "my dick is larger than your dick" bickering that's constantly going on.

We all KNOW that this is the internet & KNOW that anyone could be lying about who they really are.