new world record 6:47

[zattara]

in serbia podgorica
AMOR 'S SKAR 2W VS MONTENEGRO'S DZOLE (JOCKER JR.) has matched and draw in 6:47.
that is new world record old was in usa 5:38 male 14 kg.

[PrNc]

I don't really believe in that, do you have anything to prove it?
From what I know the old record used to be boots an red boy/jocko 4:52 to the win!

[SLICK WILLIE]

Bullshit!!! I don't really believe in that, do you have anything to prove it?
From what I know the old record used to be boots an red boy/jocko 4:52 to the win!

[Stillwater]

All that tells me is niether one had any talent.

[Attila]

All that tells me is niether one had any talent.
No shit. Impressive they could last that long but not impressive that they had to. I think it was way past time for some one to pick up. two rough curs.

[jeeperino]

No shit. Impressive they could last that long but not impressive that they had to. I think it was way past time for some one to pick up. two rough curs.
I will usually agree with 9 outta 10 things you say. I would have to disagree, neither dog was rough or a cur. I didnt see it or know about it so I cant say bullshit or not. Some of them overseas dogmen are down right sadistic so it wouldnt be too far out of reach. A stretch yes, impossible? I dont think.


YFIS

[Attila]

I will usually agree with 9 outta 10 things you say. I would have to disagree, neither dog was rough or a cur. I didnt see it or know about it so I cant say bullshit or not. Some of them overseas dogmen are down right sadistic so it wouldnt be too far out of reach. A stretch yes, impossible? I dont think.


YFIS
I can respect that. I also know how it is there. What would you call it? not impossible but highly unlikely.

[jeeperino]

we know nothing about the dogs or the event. The variables are endless. IMHO id say that it was 2 game dogs that lacked the mouth to bust a grape. Who knows, its all speculation on a possible ficticious (SP?) event anyway.



YFIS

[Attila]

we know nothing about the dogs or the event. The variables are endless. IMHO id say that it was 2 game dogs that lacked the mouth to bust a grape. Who knows, its all speculation on a possible fictious event anyway.



YFIS
Yes you are right. I will go along with that perspective.

[bimbil]

Zdravo,

Da li to istina brate? Cul sam neki mec proslu nedelju u Podgorice sa pasce 'Azra'. Kako je bilo taj mec?

[diggit]

someone traslate?

[kane85]

Zdravo,

Da li to istina brate? Cul sam neki mec proslu nedelju u Podgorice sa pasce 'Azra'. Kako je bilo taj mec?what the hell did you just say lol. it's preety hard to believe that about that match

[truegames]

someone traslate?
Please! I'd really like to know what the hell that guy said.

[Suki]

what the hell did you just say lol. it's preety hard to believe that about that match
it's Serbian and it means:
Hello , Whether it truth brother? Cul alone a mec celebration Sunday from Podgorica down Pascal 'Azra'. How is being that mec?

[kane85]

it's Serbian and it means:
Hello , Whether it truth brother? Cul alone a mec celebration Sunday from Podgorica down Pascal 'Azra'. How is being that mec?thanks suki hope the guy didnt take it the wrong way just trying to figure out what he was saying thats all.

[ghost 1]

we know nothing about the dogs or the event. The variables are endless. IMHO id say that it was 2 game dogs that lacked the mouth to bust a grape. Who knows, its all speculation on a possible ficticious (SP?) event anyway.



YFIS
that would definately be something i would agree with,,,, if it did happen,,, they didn't have the mouth to get it done

[Mary_Jane]

it's Serbian and it means:
Hello , Whether it truth brother? Cul alone a mec celebration Sunday from Podgorica down Pascal 'Azra'. How is being that mec?
well... let me correct that a lil'bit.. he said:

"is that the truth, brother? i've heard about last sunday's match in Podgorica with a dog "Azra". how was that match?"

i hope i've translate it right... my Serbian is not that great even though my language is not that different. :o

[Attila]

Zdravo,

Da li to istina brate? Cul sam neki mec proslu nedelju u Podgorice sa pasce 'Azra'. Kako je bilo taj mec?
I don't know. I need it in a dialect that I understand better.

[Attila]

well... let me correct that a lil'bit.. he said:

"is that the truth, brother? i've heard about last sunday's match in Podgorica with a dog "Azra". how was that match?"

i hope i've translate it right... my Serbian is not that great even though my language is not that different. :oVery good. I am Magyar (Hungarian) It was way different than mine. Although it did have some of the same words and some variations that I did understand. I was born in Eger, HU. And at five came to USA and grew up in Michigan till seventeen and joined US Army. Now I am old man retired in Arkansas. lol Not old really. Or not admitting to be.

By the way I gave you points for the translation. Thanks

[14rock]

Zintetti's Azra? Pm me some details please..

[pittfallin]

in serbia podgorica
AMOR 'S SKAR 2W VS MONTENEGRO'S DZOLE (JOCKER JR.) has matched and draw in 6:47.
that is new world record old was in usa 5:38 male 14 kg.what does this mean??

[Mary_Jane]

I am Magyar (Hungarian)that means you were my neighbour for 5 years :D our countries are right next to each other :) thanks for the points ;)

[Attila]

that means you were my neighbour for 5 years :D our countries are right next to each other :) thanks for the points ;)Yes I know I also have some relatives still left in your country. A minority we are in your country but still there the same. lol I own the family farm there now. I go there every so often to visit. Bodnár Wilhiem is the name. No problem for the points. Glad to do so.

[bimbil]

My Serbian grammar is a 'C' grade at best, but I speak and write it good for being born in U.S.A.

[Attila]

My Serbian grammar is a 'C' grade at best, but I speak and write it good for being born in U.S.A.
Oh, that was mean. lol Good show. You do very well indeed.

[Mary_Jane]

Yes I know I also have some relatives still left in your country. A minority we are in your country but still there the same. lol I own the family farm there now. I go there every so often to visit.yes, you are a minority but still there's about 8.000 Hungarians here :) you are an important part of our country. what city do your relatives live in? i'm from the capital city Ljubljana. so how do you like our country? :D i just hope that we won't get in trouble for being so offtopic :o

LOL bimbil.. did i at least translate it right? :D :D

[Attila]

yes, you are a minority but still there's about 8.000 Hungarians here :) you are an important part of our country. what city do your relatives live in? i'm from the capital city Ljubljana. so how do you like our country? :D i just hope that we won't get in trouble for being so offtopic :o

LOL bimbil.. did i at least translate it right? :D :D
8,000 hey that is a good number yet. Most of mine are just across the border. I will look up the cities and PM them to you when I can.

I like your country. sure do. Love it.

[bimbil]

Mary Jane,

What part of the Balkans are you from? Is it Slovenia? Is so, I've heard many nice things about Slovenia. Hopefully I'll get to visit one day...


8,000 hey that is a good number yet. Most of mine are just across the border. I will look up the cities and PM them to you when I can.

I like your country. sure do. Love it.

[PitBull_30]

Zintetti's Azra? Pm me some details please..


That's what I was thinking. I think CH Azra is dead though.

[Mary_Jane]

8,000 hey that is a good number yet.it is.. specially if you consider that there is only 2 milion people living in my country :) in America you have more people living in one CITY :D

bimbil yes, i'm from Slovenia. not many people know where that is.. we are so small :D here is our website if you want to know more about us: http://www.slovenia.info/?home=0

and again.. sorry for being so offtopic :o :o

[Attila]

it is.. specially if you consider that there is only 2 milion people living in my country :) in America you have more people living in one CITY :D

bimbil yes, i'm from Slovenia. not many people know where that is.. we are so small :D here is our website if you want to know more about us: http://www.slovenia.info/?home=0

and again.. sorry for being so offtopic :o :o
Yes there are cities that big here. I live in a town of about 100 though.

[Iverson's Pits]

i think that's a load of bs. what....did the dogs get matched while wearing muzzles???

[Suki]

well... let me correct that a lil'bit.. he said:

"is that the truth, brother? i've heard about last sunday's match in Podgorica with a dog "Azra". how was that match?"

i hope i've translate it right... my Serbian is not that great even though my language is not that different. :oty for a better translation. That's the best I could get! (dialect)

[TripleJ]

in serbia podgorica
AMOR 'S SKAR 2W VS MONTENEGRO'S DZOLE (JOCKER JR.) has matched and draw in 6:47.
that is new world record old was in usa 5:38 male 14 kg. The last time I heard about a 6 min dog it was a load of Bull shit. That dog sucked and just had pretty papers and was sold for a lot of money and when checked it was said he could not bite threw a wet paper sack. I also "heard" of one that won faster than that but when it all came out It was due to the set up (a young dog never started) on a real dog.. All set up to make it look beter than he was.. The only way I would belive it if a fluke happen and a dog had great mouth and got threw the other dog first shot and got the preferd hold... Then I might buy it.. YIS J

[PitBull_30]

I think he's talking hours, not minutes.

[stlcardfan19]

dude your post confused the crap out of me^
thanks pitbull30

[TripleJ]

I think he's talking hours, not minutes.I dont know why I thought Min LoL mabey just not looking. I would belive hours more. Good dogs can go a long time. But damn Id have to pick up my game lil dog sooner than that Im not sure if they could come back after that long..

[monsterVili]

For your info, match was true, few days a go...here read under a report of that event.
.................................................. ................
Podgorica (Montenegro), the 11th of November, 2006
AMOR'S SKAR 2xW VS MONTENEGRO'S DZOLE
Males in 19.700 kg (43 1/2 lbs)
Ref: Dejo Ivanovic

both dogs in weight.
Skar 2W is out of Cuki X Magi, Jumbo breed dog and Dzole is out of Ex.GR.CH. Joker X Samba. Both dogs start fast working sholders and heads. Skar goes down making injuries on Dzole's legs which works head fantasticly and time to
time also stiffles. equal fight of two extra good dogs, well trained and
conditioned.
about the quality of this match it would be enough to say that the first out
of hold was at 4.20 mark and Dzole makes a good scratch tough badly injured.
Afer this and nevertheless bad wheather conditions the dogs stay in hold
till the 6.47 mark when their hendlers agreed draw. after the end of the
show the dogs were brought in a distance of 1m to see each other and both
showed us their desire to continue the fight. what to say else than this is
the worl record of two fantastic dogs.
.................................................. .......
Take care...

I dont know why I thought Min LoL mabey just not looking. I would belive hours more. Good dogs can go a long time. But damn Id have to pick up my game lil dog sooner than that Im not sure if they could come back after that long..

[TripleJ]

For your info, match was true, few days a go...here read under a report of that event.
.................................................. ................
Podgorica (Montenegro), the 11th of November, 2006
AMOR'S SKAR 2xW VS MONTENEGRO'S DZOLE
Males in 19.700 kg (43 1/2 lbs)
Ref: Dejo Ivanovic

both dogs in weight.
Skar 2W is out of Cuki X Magi, Jumbo breed dog and Dzole is out of Ex.GR.CH. Joker X Samba. Both dogs start fast working sholders and heads. Skar goes down making injuries on Dzole's legs which works head fantasticly and time to
time also stiffles. equal fight of two extra good dogs, well trained and
conditioned.
about the quality of this match it would be enough to say that the first out
of hold was at 4.20 mark and Dzole makes a good scratch tough badly injured.
Afer this and nevertheless bad wheather conditions the dogs stay in hold
till the 6.47 mark when their hendlers agreed draw. after the end of the
show the dogs were brought in a distance of 1m to see each other and both
showed us their desire to continue the fight. what to say else than this is
the worl record of two fantastic dogs.
.................................................. .......
Take care... Like I said I would belive that. That is what it is about. I just would hate to see my dog that long (it would be nice to know but man that is a long one I bet some finger nail were chewed off watching that) They are far and few to find that would go that long..Yis J

[TinMan]

Bottom Line is that they actually do something with their dogs instead of collect them, Congrats to all !!

[kane85]

For your info, match was true, few days a go...here read under a report of that event.
.................................................. ................
Podgorica (Montenegro), the 11th of November, 2006
AMOR'S SKAR 2xW VS MONTENEGRO'S DZOLE
Males in 19.700 kg (43 1/2 lbs)
Ref: Dejo Ivanovic

both dogs in weight.
Skar 2W is out of Cuki X Magi, Jumbo breed dog and Dzole is out of Ex.GR.CH. Joker X Samba. Both dogs start fast working sholders and heads. Skar goes down making injuries on Dzole's legs which works head fantasticly and time to
time also stiffles. equal fight of two extra good dogs, well trained and
conditioned.
about the quality of this match it would be enough to say that the first out
of hold was at 4.20 mark and Dzole makes a good scratch tough badly injured.
Afer this and nevertheless bad wheather conditions the dogs stay in hold
till the 6.47 mark when their hendlers agreed draw. after the end of the
show the dogs were brought in a distance of 1m to see each other and both
showed us their desire to continue the fight. what to say else than this is
the worl record of two fantastic dogs.
.................................................. .......
Take care...its pretty hard to believe it could just be word of mouth but if this were to be true wow those are some of the badest dogs alive that ever steped foot in the [].

[boa1277]

So many people judge, I really would bet some good dough they have never even been to a show. I hate to say it but the rest of the world is still playing the game and yeah the United States still breeds the best, the 3rd world countries are catching up real quick, they are paying big bucks to bring the right stuff to their countries, just look what got Floyd B. in trouble. I really wish some of these countries were closer that way we could join the party.

[LuvinBullies]

So many people judge, I really would bet some good dough they have never even been to a show. I hate to say it but the rest of the world is still playing the game and yeah the United States still breeds the best, the 3rd world countries are catching up real quick, they are paying big bucks to bring the right stuff to their countries, just look what got Floyd B. in trouble. I really wish some of these countries were closer that way we could join the party.This thread is starting to bug me. Do what you do, I'm no one to judge and I don't, but remember you are reflecting on an entire group of people here. Expressing the desire to join the "party" is another opportunity for people to associate this entire community with hidden agendas and it isn't helping the overall reputation of APBT enthusiasts, many of whom aren't willing to jeopardize their dogs by publicly fantasizing about this "party" you speak of.

Just my two cents. Back to your scheduled program.

[NORTH]

Yes Brother, If i Knew how to giv REP. points i would!!!!!!!!!!!Bottom Line is that they actually do something with their dogs instead of collect them, Congrats to all !!

[mrsmickey351]

You can give rep points by clicking on the little scales in the middle of the right corner of the post. Let me know if you need any more help.Yes Brother, If i Knew how to giv REP. points i would!!!!!!!!!!!

[SApits]

maybe the dogs were older and didn't have any teeth *L*

[boa1277]

This thread is starting to bug me. Do what you do, I'm no one to judge and I don't, but remember you are reflecting on an entire group of people here. Expressing the desire to join the "party" is another opportunity for people to associate this entire community with hidden agendas and it isn't helping the overall reputation of APBT enthusiasts, many of whom aren't willing to jeopardize their dogs by publicly fantasizing about this "party" you speak of.

Just my two cents. Back to your scheduled program.
How I reflect on you is a little far fetched, I could care less what people think when it comes to my opinion on what people do in other countries, if I choose to go and join their party that is my business and not yours, if you get offended tough shit. Get real the overall reputation of APBT enthusiasts, big words little meaning, why dont you just join the American Staffordshire club and then you wont have to worry about it. If by talking about what other people do in their own country jeapordizes your dog I am sorry, but I truly find that a pretty big stretch. The world is not going to stop using the true APBT because you are afraid your dog is going to get a bad rep...It is irresponsible owners that is going to get your dog in trouble not 3rd world countries and their parties.

[LuvinBullies]

How I reflect on you is a little far fetched, I could care less what people think when it comes to my opinion on what people do in other countries, if I choose to go and join their party that is my business and not yours, if you get offended tough shit. Get real the overall reputation of APBT enthusiasts, big words little meaning, why dont you just join the American Staffordshire club and then you wont have to worry about it. If by talking about what other people do in their own country jeapordizes your dog I am sorry, but I truly find that a pretty big stretch. The world is not going to stop using the true APBT because you are afraid your dog is going to get a bad rep...It is irresponsible owners that is going to get your dog in trouble not 3rd world countries and their parties.Whatever dude. :rolleyes: American Staffordshire club here I come! LOL.

I understand this thread was posted by someone in another country and their activities are perfectly legal. I also said I am not judging anyone for what they do, and I never said I was offended- so put your billy-badass-boom-stick back where it belongs. All I was saying was words like yours (let's go join "the party") carry a little weight when they are used against you by a court of law. Sometimes a little discretion is due- especially when there are people reading this who have a hard-on to take your dogs away from you (Sorry for the expression, but it fits). Yes- irresponsible owners first and foremost give APBTs a bad rap. Bingo. But do you honestly think you are helping the situation by giving humaniacs and cops reason to flag you or anyone else here? If you think you are untouchable, by all means flaunt it. You go boy.

As you were, Sport.;)

[mrsmickey351]

I do not come to the bloodline section but found this through a different query.

First, let me start by stating that this is MY opinion and should not reflect on anyone else but me.

Ok, that out of the way, I will say the following:

What the F are you guys talking about?????? You guys are calling these dogs rough curs? Shoot, give me a 6:47 hour rough cur any day of the week! Remember that gameness is the most important aspect of the breed. It may puncture a truck tire in short order but if it does not go, go, go until man says stop, then what do you have? A rough cur. These dogs are certainly NOT curs in my eyes.

Why do people hate on game dogs not bred in the USA? Although we MAY still own the best in the world, that fact is rapidly turning into a lie. While outside the USA on vacation, I was able to view many European matches showing some very good dogs. In fact, the dogs are better than the handlers. I hope this too changes rapidly. In any case, I am pretty sure this contest was recorded as many of them are in Europe.

You guys are giving too much credit to the barnstorming, pipe bursting, tire popping dogs. So what if it can stop a hog in 5 minutes! I rather to breed a dog that lasts 5 hours than one that only sees 5 (unless I see otherwise via any means necessary).

Zatara opened the thread to keep us informed about what our dogs are doing in Europe, thank you for sharing Zatara and please congratulate both teams on my behalf.

Regards,


RH
Great post! Rep points to you.

[BoiBoi]

I do not come to the bloodline section but found this through a different query.

First, let me start by stating that this is MY opinion and should not reflect on anyone else but me.

Ok, that out of the way, I will say the following:

What the F are you guys talking about?????? You guys are calling these dogs rough curs? Shoot, give me a 6:47 hour rough cur any day of the week! Remember that gameness is the most important aspect of the breed. It may puncture a truck tire in short order but if it does not go, go, go until man says stop, then what do you have? A rough cur. These dogs are certainly NOT curs in my eyes.

Why do people hate on game dogs not bred in the USA? Although we MAY still own the best in the world, that fact is rapidly turning into a lie. While outside the USA on vacation, I was able to view many European matches showing some very good dogs. In fact, the dogs are better than the handlers. I hope this too changes rapidly. In any case, I am pretty sure this contest was recorded as many of them are in Europe.

You guys are giving too much credit to the barnstorming, pipe bursting, tire popping dogs. So what if it can stop a hog in 5 minutes! I rather to breed a dog that lasts 5 hours than one that only sees 5 (unless I see otherwise via any means necessary).

Zatara opened the thread to keep us informed about what our dogs are doing in Europe, thank you for sharing Zatara and please congratulate both teams on my behalf.

Regards,


RH
I see what ur saying and i agree with u for the most part, but look at it this way, they were 2 dogs that both have good sets of teeth but couldn't do enough damage on each other to end the match. Now maybe thats not a cur, but why would u even consider breeding a dog that by the sounds of things couldn't bite through a wet paper bag, IMO. I don't think that match was a good test of gameness because neither dog had a challenge they just went back and forth sucking on each others ears, now throw one of those dogs in the [] with a barnstormer and if that dog can withstand the punishment and outlast the barnstormer than MAYBE we can call that dog GAME

[BoiBoi]

I think people are too quick to call a dog game without actually testing the dogs true game spirit. A gamedog is a rare thing, a cur can win a battle here and there but a gamedog will win the war.

[davidlau_2002]

I see what ur saying and i agree with u for the most part, but look at it this way, they were 2 dogs that both have good sets of teeth but couldn't do enough damage on each other to end the match. Now maybe thats not a cur, but why would u even consider breeding a dog that by the sounds of things couldn't bite through a wet paper bag, IMO. I don't think that match was a good test of gameness because neither dog had a challenge they just went back and forth sucking on each others ears, now throw one of those dogs in the [] with a barnstormer and if that dog can withstand the punishment and outlast the barnstormer than MAYBE we can call that dog GAMEYou must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BoiBoi again.

you my boy boiboi!

but what if you mate that bitch to a male for known mouth? show me the way!!!

"say jack, wanna catch that bitch on the flip side? just lay 'er down and smack 'em, yack 'em! shiet. COLD GOT the beat!"

[BoiBoi]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BoiBoi again.

you my boy boiboi!

but what if you mate that bitch to a male for known mouth? show me the way!!!

"say jack, wanna catch that bitch on the flip side? just lay 'er down and smack 'em, yack 'em! shiet. COLD GOT the beat!"
LOL, u know it would definately work to breed in some blood that is known for a hard mouth like some eli stuff, but it would have to be some serious line bred hard mouth stuff to make an ace of a dog

[Riptora]

I agree. If it IS true that these dogs lasted this long (ha ha ha! I thought it was in minutes too at first! lol) than they are good to go in my book.

I do not come to the bloodline section but found this through a different query.

First, let me start by stating that this is MY opinion and should not reflect on anyone else but me.

Ok, that out of the way, I will say the following:

What the F are you guys talking about?????? You guys are calling these dogs rough curs? Shoot, give me a 6:47 hour rough cur any day of the week! Remember that gameness is the most important aspect of the breed. It may puncture a truck tire in short order but if it does not go, go, go until man says stop, then what do you have? A rough cur. These dogs are certainly NOT curs in my eyes.

Why do people hate on game dogs not bred in the USA? Although we MAY still own the best in the world, that fact is rapidly turning into a lie. While outside the USA on vacation, I was able to view many European matches showing some very good dogs. In fact, the dogs are better than the handlers. I hope this too changes rapidly. In any case, I am pretty sure this contest was recorded as many of them are in Europe.

You guys are giving too much credit to the barnstorming, pipe bursting, tire popping dogs. So what if it can stop a hog in 5 minutes! I rather to breed a dog that lasts 5 hours than one that only sees 5 (unless I see otherwise via any means necessary).

Zatara opened the thread to keep us informed about what our dogs are doing in Europe, thank you for sharing Zatara and please congratulate both teams on my behalf.

Regards,


RH

[Big Game]

I think the dogs have definatly proven there selfs worthy to breed. Ability and mouth are easy to breed for. These two dogs showed plenty of wind & plenty of endurance. Thay stayed in holds,and to go 6 hrs there must be some level of game. The report said one of the dogs was ''hurt badly''(one of the dogs had to have some kind of mouth) and still scratched and went for two more hrs. Also one of the dogs was a two time winner, therefore he had enuf mouth to get the job done in his two previous matches. Thay were in holds for 4 hrs then it was agreed it was a draw. Sounds like the dogs have more tools than thay are missing. jmo Big GameYou must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BoiBoi again.

you my boy boiboi!

but what if you mate that bitch to a male for known mouth? show me the way!!!

"say jack, wanna catch that bitch on the flip side? just lay 'er down and smack 'em, yack 'em! shiet. COLD GOT the beat!"

[blackjackjr_9]

these dogs have no mouth. just game.

[dax8814]

six hours ain't easy no matter how you look at it. for a dog to last that long shows you something.they may not have been barnstormers but some damage was done so to go through that pain for six hours. well i would feed that dog it earned its spot on my yard

[14rock]

Thats a working day for alot of people, when you take out lunch hour and breaks. I couldn't fight for 6 hours non-stop on my best day, I dont care who you are, thats a long ass time. I dont know what it says about ability, therefore gameness persay, but it does show an extreme ammount of DEDICATION.

[BoogiemanBlood]

in serbia podgorica
AMOR 'S SKAR 2W VS MONTENEGRO'S DZOLE (JOCKER JR.) has matched and draw in 6:47.
that is new world record old was in usa 5:38 male 14 kg.i thought discussing current dog fighting on here was against the rules?

[14rock]

It is, and this thread has been edited pretty heavily, although most members cannot see that. This is not only historical, being a new world record, it also happened overseas where it was legal. Normally, this discussion would not be allowed to happen, but because of the details, I will allow it for now.

[PiTBuLL200416]

I disagree and agree with the responses to this thread. First I agree with the fact that these dogs show gameness by lasting as long as they did, but in my opinion are not entirely game. I don't judge game only by how long the dog is willing to fight for. I judge game by the situation and circumstance. What I mean by that is, none of us know the amount of damage that was done. I judge game if it has been hours into the fight and both dogs have suffered in the fight but one has suffered more than the other and is down. That dog that is down then comes back and defeats the other, which shows heart, dedication, strength, tough skin, and loyalty and that is exactly what I want in a dog. I also judge game by consistancy, meaning if that same dog has been consistant in all its matches even in loses. Now I know these dogs were tired, but were they injured badly, or were they just wrestling the whole time.


Over all I am impressed with the length of the match but I need a little more info if I would consider them fully game. Now if I was asked if I would breed them or have them on my yard. Hell yeah, because the combination with that aspect of game and a nice crunch, with wrestling ability makes a pretty good bull dog.

[SJBPolo28]

I disagree and agree with the responses to this thread. First I agree with the fact that these dogs show gameness by lasting as long as they did, but in my opinion are not entirely game. I don't judge game only by how long the dog is willing to fight for. I judge game by the situation and circumstance. What I mean by that is, none of us know the amount of damage that was done. I judge game if it has been hours into the fight and both dogs have suffered in the fight but one has suffered more than the other and is down. That dog that is down then comes back and defeats the other, which shows heart, dedication, strength, tough skin, and loyalty and that is exactly what I want in a dog. I also judge game by consistancy, meaning if that same dog has been consistant in all its matches even in loses. Now I know these dogs were tired, but were they injured badly, or were they just wrestling the whole time.


Over all I am impressed with the length of the match but I need a little more info if I would consider them fully game. Now if I was asked if I would breed them or have them on my yard. Hell yeah, because the combination with that aspect of game and a nice crunch, with wrestling ability makes a pretty good bull dog.
Man what the are you talking about? Even if they were were toothless and just "wrestling." That in itself is hard clucking work!!!

[PiTBuLL200416]

I never said it wasn't hard, Im just saying in my opinion it takes more to be considered game

[SJBPolo28]

Gameness means an undying will and drive to complete a task at hand. no matter what other properties you posses or don't those animals gave what they had. One other thing, even if they were the two most cottonmouth animals on this planet, they still should a true meaning of the word deep deep "GAME."

[Riptora]

Gameness means an undying will and drive to complete a task at hand. no matter what other properties you posses or don't those animals gave what they had. One other thing, even if they were the two most cottonmouth animals on this planet, they still should a true meaning of the word deep deep "GAME."Yup! Anything that goes for hours and hours like that, is game... that's pretty much inarguable. Even if injuries were minor the whole time, that is some AMAZING stamina AND strength!

[zattara]

Originally Posted by me
in serbia podgorica
AMOR 'S SKAR 2W VS MONTENEGRO'S DZOLE (JOCKER JR.) has matched and draw in 6:47
and first hold in 4:20

that ain t a bullshit.that is true
as you can understand my english is very poor but i wanna write something.
serbia pitmen are very good their job.they break record to record.last blkain record was a few months before that match.
captain atila (1w, 1d 3:20) vs turtle kennels gringo made match and gringo won in 5:10.
and they will do better than 6:47 with better selection, better crosses, better trainings vsvs and that is not very far.
ps:in all matches use cajun rules.

[sgt.stubby]

For some people maybe its hard to belive or hard to understand but better dedication to dogs and selection make better reslults than breeding by paper or pedigree.
Game on Blkan area is very hard and there is many good kennels and many greate dogs; selection is very hard and competition evan harder. Conditioning and selection is impoved so muck that is almost perfect.
And results are many this is just one in 1000 what you can find there.

So for somebody who doesnt belive best is to go there and see for himself.

[jman11]

just in case anyone was interested, here is a picture/wallpaper of one of the dogs being discussed
http://www.antohinkennels.com/_wallpaper.php?w=1024&h=768&slika=wallpaper03.jpg

[vacaroz]

this is not the first time when i see this pik, but with his oponent never. if someone have the pik please post it.

[youngheeler]

some good reading

[LuvinBullies]

some good readingI'm gonna be the fart in the elevator here. If game-dog was based out of another country this thread wouldn't irk me the way it does, but the fact is some really good and legit threads have been closed lately because the contents could too easily be misconstrued as pro-dog fighting. Meanwhile this thread has been going over a year. It just doesn't jive. JMHO. Perhaps the dogs in question are overseas but by supporting this thread we are all implicating ourselves and our animals. We can't talk about gameness but we can throw pom poms in the air for a new world record? I just don't get it.

[bradyFL]

heres a pic of amor's skar

[pitbullin]

I'm gonna be the fart in the elevator here. If game-dog was based out of another country this thread wouldn't irk me the way it does, but the fact is some really good and legit threads have been closed lately because the contents could too easily be misconstrued as pro-dog fighting. Meanwhile this thread has been going over a year. It just doesn't jive. JMHO. Perhaps the dogs in question are overseas but by supporting this thread we are all implicating ourselves and our animals. We can't talk about gameness but we can throw pom poms in the air for a new world record? I just don't get it.no offense. But 14 rock already explained....so if u dont like this thread how bout just not read it? i mean... if it irks you so bad...i for one and happy to actually see something INTERestING about the breed being used for what it WAS intended for PRE-76 IN THIS COUNTRY.

[MinorThreat]

this thread isnt implicating us or our animals, I dont think you posting on this thread is going to get your animals taken away or you in prison and if you dont agree with it why not just move on to another thread rather then trying to spoil what others maybe enjoying

you'd be happy to see us not be able to talk about gameness or the new world record according to your post, 100% pet forum, wow thats exciting

[LuvinBullies]

you'd be happy to see us not be able to talk about gameness NO smart ass ;).

Always with the stupid "pet" jabs. Can't wait to get those in, can we? :rolleyes:


Read my post again please. I said:

"some REALLY GOOD AND LEGIT THREADS have been closed lately because the contents could be too easily misconstrued as pro-dog fighting...we can't talk about gameness but we can throw pom poms in the air for a new world record? I just don't get it."

Does that really sound like I don't want to talk about gameness???!!!

And to pitbullin: You obviously don't know me at all because I love a lot of the pre 76 stories and just posted about one recently. Here:
http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23766

This thread does not offend me. I know some of you are chomping at the bit to beat on a "petowner"-- but put that thing away you won't need it. This thread irks me because it doesn't make any sense to me why this can be discussed but gameness and certain conditioning can not. NOW if you can answer that by all means do. If you cannot, ignore my post.

And fine, perhaps no one is implicating themselves or their dogs by supporting this thread. Whatever you say. I'm inclined to disagree, which I do, and which I can.

I guess you'd only like to see people post who agree with everything everyone else said. "Wow that's exciting." ;)

[Bullyson]

Game-Dog.com.....GAME-dog.com Enough said. :)

[MinorThreat]

if the gameness discussions are being brought to a hault but we can still have threads like these, at least we have one of the subjects going, no need to ruin it. That was my point, one is better then none and mentioning 100% pet discussion had nothing to do with you being a pet owner or not, 100% pet board is not something I want to be a part of or want to happen to this site.

I wasnt getting personal with you about what you do or dont do with your dogs. I disagreed with your take and thats as far as it goes...take care

[LuvinBullies]

if the gameness discussions are being brought to a hault but we can still have threads like these, at least we have one of the subjects going, no need to ruin it. That was my point, one is better then none and mentioning 100% pet discussion had nothing to do with you being a pet owner or not, 100% pet board is not something I want to be a part of or want to happen to this site.

I wasnt getting personal with you about what you do or dont do with your dogs. I disagreed with your take and thats as far as it goes...take care....................... No worries ;).