Warrior Cut

[gameexchange]

To piggy back off of the thread before this. I would like some pictures of dogs with the warrior crop style of the ears. Any pics will be greatly appreciated

[mrsmickey351]

Here is a picture of Luci. Her ears are hard to see cuz there isn't much there!!!

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m257/mickey351/Luci2.jpg

[BoiBoi]

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/5/0/9/8/048_18A.JPG

here's my mutt bruno with the war cut, im not sure if thats the same thing ur talking about

[Miss Conduct]

Only pic i have, sorry you cant see very well.
*This dog isnt mine, just had him for a while*http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/bobbybiglug/zebopoopie.jpg

[NCPatchwork]

I don't have a picture of a dog with a warrior cut, but I have seen one on a dog that comes into work once in a while. It actually looks really good, I was shocked. They are small, but looked great. Probably need to check out different vets. I know a vet near here that only does one cut and it looks like a boxer cut and he can't even get that straight.

[14rock]

"Warrior crop" huh? Funny, you dont see too many cropped eared battle dogs, except by those who dont know any better. Have the hog grab an ear, or get in the gut because it doesnt have anything to grab on the head. Hmmm....

[purplepig]

"Warrior crop" huh? Funny, you dont see too many cropped eared battle dogs, except by those who dont know any better. Have the hog grab an ear, or get in the gut because it doesnt have anything to grab on the head. Hmmm....
I was thinking the same thing, I almost posted a picture of one of my natural eared dogs!!LOL

[TEXAS PIT DOGS]

"Warrior crop" huh? Funny, you dont see too many cropped eared battle dogs, except by those who dont know any better. Have the hog grab an ear, or get in the gut because it doesnt have anything to grab on the head. Hmmm....LOL,took the words right out of my mouth.

[Miss Conduct]

"Warrior crop" huh? Funny, you dont see too many cropped eared battle dogs, except by those who dont know any better. Have the hog grab an ear, or get in the gut because it doesnt have anything to grab on the head. Hmmm....
Agreed as well. NONE of my dogs have ever had their ears cropped, nor ever will. IMO i think its ugly, and a waste.

[TEXAS PIT DOGS]

Agreed as well. NONE of my dogs have ever had their ears cropped, nor ever will. IMO i think its ugly, and a waste.i have had a few dogs ears cropped but the only reason they were cropped was because they had the bat ear effect and i hate that,for those who dont know what the bat ear is thats where the dogs ears stick straight up like it got a bad shock.but as long as the ear isnt like that it aint getting touched.back in the days when i was matching dogs i always prefered a natural eared dog,it was very rare to catch me in the pit with a cropped dog.

(so no one freaks out,this was before the animal welfare act)

[Saiyagin]

"Warrior crop" huh? Funny, you dont see too many cropped eared battle dogs, except by those who dont know any better. Have the hog grab an ear, or get in the gut because it doesnt have anything to grab on the head. Hmmm....
Nowdays there is no reason to cut a dogs ears except for looks but in the past some great old timers use to battle/warrior cut a dogs ears for a reason because it worked for them as if it didnt work they wouldnt of done it. Also alot of people get the misconception that if he cant grab an ear or head he will grab something else like the gut etc.. which is usually false not saying that it cant never happen just majority of the time it doesnt happen that way. OH sh!t I was gonna go into more detail but I think I already said too much as I forgot this is a public forum.

[14rock]

You dont agree that when you take that ear hold away, they find something that does more damage? How many hogs have you seen ride that ear for 20-30 minutes, back-peddling until the dog gets tired of chasing it and gets hot. That ear isnt there, and most will just grab the whole head. I dont know about you, but I dont like seeing dogs come out of the woods with crushed muzzles, or punctured eyes.. bubbling blood out the top of their muzzle on every breath, or left with that swollen, yellow, oozing eye which most of the time is permanently destroyed.. No thanks, if at all possible I'd just prefer to catgut the ears closed, give some AB's and a bath, and be done with it! Not saying some dogs wont go for the snout, or another hold even if the ear IS there, but a good # of hogs are content to ride that ear for the duration, wear the dog out, and then come on strong. Take that ear from those hogs, and they are forced to hit something else. Sure, maybe your dog never finds a hog that prefers ears, but why crop them and put him at a disadvantage in case he does? This is an odds game....everything I can do for my dog to put him in front and safe, will be done. What positives are their in the woods for cropped dogs? None. They look tough, and they dont have ugly ears, hardly a hunting advantage.

[RawDawg513]

I think cropped ears are for show dogs.

[jadedpitgirl]

i have had a few dogs ears cropped but the only reason they were cropped was because they had the bat ear effect and i hate that,for those who dont know what the bat ear is thats where the dogs ears stick straight up like it got a bad shock.Here ya go Texas; a bat-eared dog:o
http://freespaces.com/jadedpitbulls/tater7mthkennelsit.jpg

http://freespaces.com/jadedpitbulls/tater7.5mths.bmp

[MercedesMama]

Here's Ozzy, he's ears were done before we got him.

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/4/6/8/1/Pets015.jpg

And, here's Bentley. We had his done as a pup. He had really long ears. Really long. We took him to the same doc that did Ozzy's. I wish we never would have had it done. He's got almost nothing.

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/4/6/8/1/Bentley004.jpg

[Saiyagin]

You dont agree that when you take that ear hold away, they find something that does more damage? How many hogs have you seen ride that ear for 20-30 minutes, back-peddling until the dog gets tired of chasing it and gets hot. That ear isnt there, and most will just grab the whole head. I dont know about you, but I dont like seeing dogs come out of the woods with crushed muzzles, or punctured eyes.. bubbling blood out the top of their muzzle on every breath, or left with that swollen, yellow, oozing eye which most of the time is permanently destroyed.. No thanks, if at all possible I'd just prefer to catgut the ears closed, give some AB's and a bath, and be done with it! Not saying some dogs wont go for the snout, or another hold even if the ear IS there, but a good # of hogs are content to ride that ear for the duration, wear the dog out, and then come on strong. Take that ear from those hogs, and they are forced to hit something else. Sure, maybe your dog never finds a hog that prefers ears, but why crop them and put him at a disadvantage in case he does? This is an odds game....everything I can do for my dog to put him in front and safe, will be done. What positives are their in the woods for cropped dogs? None. They look tough, and they dont have ugly ears, hardly a hunting advantage.
LOL do you even know what you are talking about 14Rock? Are you just guessing and trying to make up your own beliefs and theories???...I doubt it anything came from actual experiences lol.....What positives are their in the woods for cropped dogs? the answer is you will never know because you dont have any real actual experiences with dealing with dogs with cropped ears in those type of situations. You can fool the newbies man but you cant fool me LOL hahahahahahahahahehehehehehehehehehehehehe

[kane85]

well for what i herd back in the day people didn't like dogs with crop ears to match in the [] cause if the dog didn't have ears or were croped they would go for the head or dig dipper in the ear and cause alot of damage but for those dogs that have ears it was just a floopy ears to get a hold of nothing more nothing less what do you all think.

[14rock]

Saiygain, your correct, I've never hunted with a cropped eared dog. Seen plenty go down, and the owners will admit it was done for primarily looks. I can give you plenty of reasons why its bullshit, can you give me any for why its beneficial? Nada.

[Saiyagin]

Saiygain, your correct, I've never hunted with a cropped eared dog. Seen plenty go down, and the owners will admit it was done for primarily looks. I can give you plenty of reasons why its bullshit, can you give me any for why its beneficial? Nada.
I can give you one reason EXPERIENCE.

[Iverson's Pits]

ummm....maybe that was SUPPOSED to be a bold, in-your-face type statement....but it definitely lacked substance. so, let me guide you thru this........

......so what has your 'experience' taught you about the advantages of a cropped-eared match dog?

jeeze.....its like grade school around here!


I can give you one reason EXPERIENCE.

[TEXAS PIT DOGS]

Here ya go Texas; a bat-eared dog:o
http://freespaces.com/jadedpitbulls/tater7mthkennelsit.jpg

http://freespaces.com/jadedpitbulls/tater7.5mths.bmpthanks,these are the only type ear i would ever crop.and for me it is a personal prefrence and it is just for looks.a lot of folks dont mind a bat eared dog but me for some reason can't stand the ears when they are like this so i crop them,but it serves no purpose other than to make the dog look better to me.

[TEXAS PIT DOGS]

Nowdays there is no reason to cut a dogs ears except for looks but in the past some great old timers use to battle/warrior cut a dogs ears for a reason because it worked for them as if it didnt work they wouldnt of done it. Also alot of people get the misconception that if he cant grab an ear or head he will grab something else like the gut etc.. which is usually false not saying that it cant never happen just majority of the time it doesnt happen that way. OH sh!t I was gonna go into more detail but I think I already said too much as I forgot this is a public forum.your right a lot of folks from my era did crop the dogs ears,figuring it gave them a advantage.i had quite a few of my dogs go up against some very short cropped dogs and i will give you a prime example of a match where i put my dog in against a croped dog now i aint gonna name no names or nothing like that,and just so the mods dont get picky i want them to know this match happened in 1963. anyways both males weighed 39 lbs,my dog hand natural ears and his oppenet had very short cropped ears,i noticed while i was washing the dog he had almost no ears left they were cropped that short.so anyways we took our corners and the match was on the cropped dog went straight for my dogs ear and got a pretty fair hold on it,he loosend up and my dog got out of it and went for his ear he seen their was no ear to work so he got him by the mouth and shook for all he was worth but his oppenet wasnt a dumb dog and he bit down but my dog wouldnt let go so it came time to scratch again,so the other mans dog got released first and he boared into my dog something fierce and went staright for the chest but my dog got him by the back of the neck and got a fair enough hold for what he could get back there so the other dog wiggles out of that and comes to work the ear of my dog again but my animal sees this coming and heads under neath and grabbed him by the baby makers as i call em and he shook real hard on that,then lets off of that and gets the back leg and bites down for all he was worth breaking the leg in the process,then he lets loose after a few minutes and comes around and gets a real good face hold and holds that till scratch time again.now this man who was handleing the other dog didnt pick him up because of the broken leg.anyways this time around it was me who released first and my dog met his dog before he was even out of the corner yet and hit the dog so hard they rolled into the handler of the other dog.so he gets out of the way and my dog is just working him over and he gets a front leg now and bites down and snaps it as well.this dog snaped legs tooth picks he turned on late but he was a fine animal,but anyways the handler of the other animal seen his dog now had both legs broken and decided to pick him up.but his dog with 2 broken legs his privates basicley gone was still wanting to go and whining and squirming trying to get back in the match.he tried to get him fixed up but had to end up putting the dog down,but i honestly belive that if that dog would have had ears for my dog to work i would have lost that match,my dog was smart and could fight dogs with many diffrent styles but he liked to work ears he figured out that there wasnt any ears to work so he done what any good bulldog would do and figured out what he had to do and done it.he was pretty banged up and it took me a while to get him back to normal but he wasnt nothing near like what the other animal was.and i fully attribute this to having natural ears the other animal was so busy working his ears and such over that my dog found openings and took them and ended up winning that match.so i agree with 14rock on the fact that i would rather have a ear be damaged and anything else.ears are fixiable and it aint gonna kill the dog if they get torn apart but if the get their stomach sliced open or have the testicles torn off or mangled that very well could kill them.

[Saiyagin]

ummm....maybe that was SUPPOSED to be a bold, in-your-face type statement....but it definitely lacked substance. so, let me guide you thru this........

......so what has your 'experience' taught you about the advantages of a cropped-eared match dog?

jeeze.....its like grade school around here!
Well Iverson you know as well as I do or even more that this is a public forum in which you cannot talk about illegal activities its against the rules you should know better than that man.

[Saiyagin]

your right a lot of folks from my era did crop the dogs ears,figuring it gave them a advantage.i had quite a few of my dogs go up against some very short cropped dogs and i will give you a prime example of a match where i put my dog in against a croped dog now i aint gonna name no names or nothing like that,and just so the mods dont get picky i want them to know this match happened in 1963. anyways both males weighed 39 lbs,my dog hand natural ears and his oppenet had very short cropped ears,i noticed while i was washing the dog he had almost no ears left they were cropped that short.so anyways we took our corners and the match was on the cropped dog went straight for my dogs ear and got a pretty fair hold on it,he loosend up and my dog got out of it and went for his ear he seen their was no ear to work so he got him by the mouth and shook for all he was worth but his oppenet wasnt a dumb dog and he bit down but my dog wouldnt let go so it came time to scratch again,so the other mans dog got released first and he boared into my dog something fierce and went staright for the chest but my dog got him by the back of the neck and got a fair enough hold for what he could get back there so the other dog wiggles out of that and comes to work the ear of my dog again but my animal sees this coming and heads under neath and grabbed him by the baby makers as i call em and he shook real hard on that,then lets off of that and gets the back leg and bites down for all he was worth breaking the leg in the process,then he lets loose after a few minutes and comes around and gets a real good face hold and holds that till scratch time again.now this man who was handleing the other dog didnt pick him up because of the broken leg.anyways this time around it was me who released first and my dog met his dog before he was even out of the corner yet and hit the dog so hard they rolled into the handler of the other dog.so he gets out of the way and my dog is just working him over and he gets a front leg now and bites down and snaps it as well.this dog snaped legs tooth picks he turned on late but he was a fine animal,but anyways the handler of the other animal seen his dog now had both legs broken and decided to pick him up.but his dog with 2 broken legs his privates basicley gone was still wanting to go and whining and squirming trying to get back in the match.he tried to get him fixed up but had to end up putting the dog down,but i honestly belive that if that dog would have had ears for my dog to work i would have lost that match,my dog was smart and could fight dogs with many diffrent styles but he liked to work ears he figured out that there wasnt any ears to work so he done what any good bulldog would do and figured out what he had to do and done it.he was pretty banged up and it took me a while to get him back to normal but he wasnt nothing near like what the other animal was.and i fully attribute this to having natural ears the other animal was so busy working his ears and such over that my dog found openings and took them and ended up winning that match.so i agree with 14rock on the fact that i would rather have a ear be damaged and anything else.ears are fixiable and it aint gonna kill the dog if they get torn apart but if the get their stomach sliced open or have the testicles torn off or mangled that very well could kill them.
Great Story TEX but IMO your dog was just the better dog he was more talented and smarter even if the opponent had ears I still think your dog would of won. Also Im not saying that all dogs with cropped ears are gonna win just that certain styles of dogs with cropped ears can have some advantages and there owners have a reason or purpose for doing it.

[Attila]

All I can say is I don't alter the dogs in any way.

Texas Pit dogs. I can say if something tore my balls off I wouldn't want to live. lol Damn that is rough. Gretchen did that to a dog that got into my yard and tried to mount her. I guess she didn't like him. lol

[TEXAS PIT DOGS]

Great Story TEX but IMO your dog was just the better dog he was more talented and smarter even if the opponent had ears I still think your dog would of won. Also Im not saying that all dogs with cropped ears are gonna win just that certain styles of dogs with cropped ears can have some advantages and there owners have a reason or purpose for doing it.oh i understand what your saying completely.

[TEXAS PIT DOGS]

Texas Pit dogs. I can say if something tore my balls off I wouldn't want to live. lol Damn that is rough. Gretchen did that to a dog that got into my yard and tried to mount her. I guess she didn't like him. loltell me about it he didnt just grab hold he grabbed hold and shook like the devil,the other poor dogs eyes bulged out when he did it.when he did it first words out of my mouth was holy shit their goes his stud life.i dont think i would care to live either without my baby makers and i dont think we are the only 2 who feel that way.

[mopardave360]

Yeah please shoot me if my babymakers were torn off... :eek:

[realonebulldog]

"Warrior crop" huh? Funny, you dont see too many cropped eared battle dogs, except by those who dont know any better. Have the hog grab an ear, or get in the gut because it doesnt have anything to grab on the head. Hmmm.... thought the same...hmm

[realonebulldog]

your right a lot of folks from my era did crop the dogs ears,figuring it gave them a advantage.i had quite a few of my dogs go up against some very short cropped dogs and i will give you a prime example of a match where i put my dog in against a croped dog now i aint gonna name no names or nothing like that,and just so the mods dont get picky i want them to know this match happened in 1963. anyways both males weighed 39 lbs,my dog hand natural ears and his oppenet had very short cropped ears,i noticed while i was washing the dog he had almost no ears left they were cropped that short.so anyways we took our corners and the match was on the cropped dog went straight for my dogs ear and got a pretty fair hold on it,he loosend up and my dog got out of it and went for his ear he seen their was no ear to work so he got him by the mouth and shook for all he was worth but his oppenet wasnt a dumb dog and he bit down but my dog wouldnt let go so it came time to scratch again,so the other mans dog got released first and he boared into my dog something fierce and went staright for the chest but my dog got him by the back of the neck and got a fair enough hold for what he could get back there so the other dog wiggles out of that and comes to work the ear of my dog again but my animal sees this coming and heads under neath and grabbed him by the baby makers as i call em and he shook real hard on that,then lets off of that and gets the back leg and bites down for all he was worth breaking the leg in the process,then he lets loose after a few minutes and comes around and gets a real good face hold and holds that till scratch time again.now this man who was handleing the other dog didnt pick him up because of the broken leg.anyways this time around it was me who released first and my dog met his dog before he was even out of the corner yet and hit the dog so hard they rolled into the handler of the other dog.so he gets out of the way and my dog is just working him over and he gets a front leg now and bites down and snaps it as well.this dog snaped legs tooth picks he turned on late but he was a fine animal,but anyways the handler of the other animal seen his dog now had both legs broken and decided to pick him up.but his dog with 2 broken legs his privates basicley gone was still wanting to go and whining and squirming trying to get back in the match.he tried to get him fixed up but had to end up putting the dog down,but i honestly belive that if that dog would have had ears for my dog to work i would have lost that match,my dog was smart and could fight dogs with many diffrent styles but he liked to work ears he figured out that there wasnt any ears to work so he done what any good bulldog would do and figured out what he had to do and done it.he was pretty banged up and it took me a while to get him back to normal but he wasnt nothing near like what the other animal was.and i fully attribute this to having natural ears the other animal was so busy working his ears and such over that my dog found openings and took them and ended up winning that match.so i agree with 14rock on the fact that i would rather have a ear be damaged and anything else.ears are fixiable and it aint gonna kill the dog if they get torn apart but if the get their stomach sliced open or have the testicles torn off or mangled that very well could kill them. UUUUUH...man, what a story...only to hear it hurts my balls...thats a true NIGHTMARE! Game or not I would quit...lol

[mrsmickey351]

That was a great story Tex. Thanks for the read. I really enjoy hearing the true stories of the past!!:cool: your right a lot of folks from my era did crop the dogs ears,figuring it gave them a advantage.i had quite a few of my dogs go up against some very short cropped dogs and i will give you a prime example of a match where i put my dog in against a croped dog now i aint gonna name no names or nothing like that,and just so the mods dont get picky i want them to know this match happened in 1963. anyways both males weighed 39 lbs,my dog hand natural ears and his oppenet had very short cropped ears,i noticed while i was washing the dog he had almost no ears left they were cropped that short.so anyways we took our corners and the match was on the cropped dog went straight for my dogs ear and got a pretty fair hold on it,he loosend up and my dog got out of it and went for his ear he seen their was no ear to work so he got him by the mouth and shook for all he was worth but his oppenet wasnt a dumb dog and he bit down but my dog wouldnt let go so it came time to scratch again,so the other mans dog got released first and he boared into my dog something fierce and went staright for the chest but my dog got him by the back of the neck and got a fair enough hold for what he could get back there so the other dog wiggles out of that and comes to work the ear of my dog again but my animal sees this coming and heads under neath and grabbed him by the baby makers as i call em and he shook real hard on that,then lets off of that and gets the back leg and bites down for all he was worth breaking the leg in the process,then he lets loose after a few minutes and comes around and gets a real good face hold and holds that till scratch time again.now this man who was handleing the other dog didnt pick him up because of the broken leg.anyways this time around it was me who released first and my dog met his dog before he was even out of the corner yet and hit the dog so hard they rolled into the handler of the other dog.so he gets out of the way and my dog is just working him over and he gets a front leg now and bites down and snaps it as well.this dog snaped legs tooth picks he turned on late but he was a fine animal,but anyways the handler of the other animal seen his dog now had both legs broken and decided to pick him up.but his dog with 2 broken legs his privates basicley gone was still wanting to go and whining and squirming trying to get back in the match.he tried to get him fixed up but had to end up putting the dog down,but i honestly belive that if that dog would have had ears for my dog to work i would have lost that match,my dog was smart and could fight dogs with many diffrent styles but he liked to work ears he figured out that there wasnt any ears to work so he done what any good bulldog would do and figured out what he had to do and done it.he was pretty banged up and it took me a while to get him back to normal but he wasnt nothing near like what the other animal was.and i fully attribute this to having natural ears the other animal was so busy working his ears and such over that my dog found openings and took them and ended up winning that match.so i agree with 14rock on the fact that i would rather have a ear be damaged and anything else.ears are fixiable and it aint gonna kill the dog if they get torn apart but if the get their stomach sliced open or have the testicles torn off or mangled that very well could kill them.

[TEXAS PIT DOGS]

LOL,see i knew me and Attilla wasnt the only ones who felt this way.i reckon if your a man and you dont feel this way you might as well become a eunic.
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and MRSMICKEY your more than welcome,i got tons of stories from the past.reckon the game dog get together would be a fine place to tell everyone some nice experinces i have had throughout my lifetime.

[Pitbull219]

i got tons of stories from the past.reckon the game dog get together would be a fine place to tell everyone some nice experinces i have had throughout my lifetime.Now I really can't wait for the get-together!! Sittin around the campfire listening to stories of the way things used to be......July can't get here soon enough!

[TripleJ]

Only pic i have, sorry you cant see very well.
*This dog isnt mine, just had him for a while*http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/bobbybiglug/zebopoopie.jpg That dog looks Just like one of my old dogs I am going to P.M. you About this dog O.K. YIS J

[Miss Conduct]

That dog looks Just like one of my old dogs I am going to P.M. you About this dog O.K. YIS J
PM away :)

[Miss Conduct]

That dog looks Just like one of my old dogs I am going to P.M. you About this dog O.K. YIS J
If this is the dog that you are thinkin of, then i think i know who you are (well, you must be 1 out of the 2 people i am thinking of anyway).

:)

[TripleJ]

If this is the dog that you are thinkin of, then i think i know who you are (well, you must be 1 out of the 2 people i am thinking of anyway).

:) I can not pm you it says you need to clear space.. Does you friend want to sell that dog back if it is my old dog I will pay 2x what I sold it for..YIS J

[Miss Conduct]

I can not pm you it says you need to clear space.. Does you friend want to sell that dog back if it is my old dog I will pay 2x what I sold it for..YIS J
He died towards the beginning of this year.

[Miss Conduct]

I can not pm you it says you need to clear space.. Does you friend want to sell that dog back if it is my old dog I will pay 2x what I sold it for..YIS J
You can PM me now ;)

[TripleJ]

He died towards the beginning of this year.Damn I hate to hear that.. Its a hard nock life.. YIS J

[Miss Conduct]

Here is another photo of him-


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/bobbybiglug/Zebo.jpg