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newbieturtlepits
11-06-2006, 12:50 AM
i have a question
for my dogs to go into the fun catagories lil local shows
i should have my dogs registered to other registries so
that i can compete there..
what are the other registries that accept the paperwork
i have from the adba to register my babies
around here they have some triple registered dogs
i believe i should attempt to cover my bases while i get
my babies trained up for the spring shows
they have shows for the registered dogs
and fun catagory for others
like biggest , smallest , most hairy , you know just for
the experience of working show for me and them before
getting into very serious competition
thanks




bahamutt99
11-06-2006, 02:51 AM
I had a hard time following what you were saying with the sentence structure and punctuation, but I'm thinking you want to know who will accept ADBA papers for registry? I'm not familiar with many registries, but the UKC will. (I think they require an inspection to make sure the dog at least appears pure.) But with a single registration you could compete in anything they offer (weight pull, agility, obedience, conformation, dog sports). As far as fun shows, I know the ADBA does those. UKC offers non-licensed classes like Altered, and Novice Puppy.

pancho
11-06-2006, 06:38 AM
I don't think UKC will accept any other registery, not even ADBA. When they open their books it is possible to single dog register them but as far as I know their books are not open and they do not plan on opening them up any time soon.

I was under the impression you were going to spay/neuter your dogs. If so, I don't know of any registry that will let you show them.

bahamutt99
11-06-2006, 08:09 AM
Pancho, here's what the UKC rep who answers the questions on the message board had to say:

"To register an American Pit Bull Terrier with UKC, we will require the following information: An APBT Single Registration Application would have to be filled out for each dog to be registered (you can download one from our website), a three generation pedigree will have to be included, photocopies of the dog’s registration with either the AKC, Canadian Kennel Club or the ADBA would have to be included, the dog would have to be inspected by a UKC inspector, (if there is no inspector in your area, #17 on the application details what would need to be seen in a VHS video of the dog in lieu of an inspection) and the dog must be at least one year of age."

newbieturtlepits
11-06-2006, 12:31 PM
I don't think UKC will accept any other registery, not even ADBA. When they open their books it is possible to single dog register them but as far as I know their books are not open and they do not plan on opening them up any time soon.

I was under the impression you were going to spay/neuter your dogs. If so, I don't know of any registry that will let you show them.

the local shows have registered class compete
and non registered class compete
however they get a little bit touchy about what registry is used
the girls arent altered yet and im NOT breeding them or any other
animals of mine.. the local variety of shows are not national
they are run by the locals that get together for fun
you do get ribbons and trophies and such but its not a big thing
shoot they even got a ribbon for smallest dog
its a fun thing and not so many do it
in our town the natives get restless and have alot of festevents
and dog walks for charity.. stuff like that
so i was hoping the UKC was open to them so i can do that
and there is one more they do around here but i forgot which
it was ..that will accept the girls......thanks for replies

newbieturtlepits
11-06-2006, 12:32 PM
Pancho, here's what the UKC rep who answers the questions on the message board had to say:

"To register an American Pit Bull Terrier with UKC, we will require the following information: An APBT Single Registration Application would have to be filled out for each dog to be registered (you can download one from our website), a three generation pedigree will have to be included, photocopies of the dog’s registration with either the AKC, Canadian Kennel Club or the ADBA would have to be included, the dog would have to be inspected by a UKC inspector, (if there is no inspector in your area, #17 on the application details what would need to be seen in a VHS video of the dog in lieu of an inspection) and the dog must be at least one year of age."
thanks i will give it a shot..

pancho
11-06-2006, 05:23 PM
Pancho, here's what the UKC rep who answers the questions on the message board had to say:

"To register an American Pit Bull Terrier with UKC, we will require the following information: An APBT Single Registration Application would have to be filled out for each dog to be registered (you can download one from our website), a three generation pedigree will have to be included, photocopies of the dog’s registration with either the AKC, Canadian Kennel Club or the ADBA would have to be included, the dog would have to be inspected by a UKC inspector, (if there is no inspector in your area, #17 on the application details what would need to be seen in a VHS video of the dog in lieu of an inspection) and the dog must be at least one year of age."
Thanks, I didn't think UKC was going to open their registry for single dog registration anytime soon. Good to know.

Dirty3rd
11-06-2006, 05:36 PM
AADR ,UKC, APA, IWPA, UPF, will all accept the ADBA papers I believe.

newbieturtlepits
11-06-2006, 05:44 PM
AADR ,UKC, APA, IWPA, UPF, will all accept the ADBA papers I believe.
wow just the answer i was looking for and very concise and to the point im taking notes.......thanks sooooo much!!

kane85
11-06-2006, 07:03 PM
Pancho, here's what the UKC rep who answers the questions on the message board had to say:

"To register an American Pit Bull Terrier with UKC, we will require the following information: An APBT Single Registration Application would have to be filled out for each dog to be registered (you can download one from our website), a three generation pedigree will have to be included, photocopies of the dog’s registration with either the AKC, Canadian Kennel Club or the ADBA would have to be included, the dog would have to be inspected by a UKC inspector, (if there is no inspector in your area, #17 on the application details what would need to be seen in a VHS video of the dog in lieu of an inspection) and the dog must be at least one year of age."your right on point on that the dog has to be inpected by a local ukc inspector and to see if the dog meets ukc standards.

purplepig
11-06-2006, 07:18 PM
I don't think UKC will accept any other registery, not even ADBA. When they open their books it is possible to single dog register them but as far as I know their books are not open and they do not plan on opening them up any time soon.

I was under the impression you were going to spay/neuter your dogs. If so, I don't know of any registry that will let you show them.
Poncho, Bahama is right, UKC will accept ADBA peds, contingent upon one of their inspectors approval=mo money!! I think maybe 50 bucks.

As to other registries, there is the SDR, AADR, CKC, Delta, and I would imagine anyone with $120 bucks for the software can create their own registry!! That is what has bothered me so much about the ADBA thing. Heck, for CKC, all you gotta do is send in a picture of your dog, and a handwritten geneology and your in.

Attila
11-06-2006, 09:59 PM
We accept other registries. And compete for points not just for fun. that is if they are pure and not altered sexually.

wally81
11-06-2006, 10:10 PM
Heck, for CKC, all you gotta do is send in a picture of your dog, and a handwritten geneology and your in.
and for this reason i think the ckc is the biggest joke of them all.....

newbieturtlepits
11-06-2006, 10:10 PM
We accept other registries. And compete for points not just for fun. that is if they are pure and not altered sexually.

you can check the pedigree for my pups on the online pedigree i had in my thread about them..... they are pure all the way back as far as the eye can see your shows will probably be out of my area.. the locals are a bit fussy about the adba.. because it had the game dog rep so long.. they just have this thing about it.. so for me to have an outlet for myself and my girls i need them to be registered in more acceptable registries..
hope that is agreeable .. will post even better pics as i get them done

Attila
11-06-2006, 10:19 PM
you can check the pedigree for my pups on the online pedigree i had in my thread about them..... they are pure all the way back as far as the eye can see your shows will probably be out of my area.. the locals are a bit fussy about the adba.. because it had the game dog rep so long.. they just have this thing about it.. so for me to have an outlet for myself and my girls i need them to be registered in more acceptable registries..
hope that is agreeable .. will post even better pics as i get them done
Ok not sure I understand what your saying but ok. ADBA is sold out and isn't what it was 30 years ago.

newbieturtlepits
11-06-2006, 10:34 PM
if this works this is them to the grandparent reaper and back

then comes more inline mims and one sorrel dog


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Attila
11-06-2006, 11:08 PM
looks ok to me.

Attila
11-06-2006, 11:23 PM
and for this reason i think the ckc is the biggest joke of them all.....
I agree that CKC isn't strong or always credable however to get into most of them requires the same. I have printed the forms off for ADBA and it isn't much different. Even AKC you do that and some one has to inspect the dog. Most of them do require at least the dog to be inspected by a representative of the association that knows the breed. And they prefer peds with a signature back up of another breeder that is registared that you got your dogs from. None of them are perfect in that manner. Just as not all shows run smoothly for each club and some do. I would like to either me physically inspect the dogs for Delta or a representative as well. Not just some picture and a undocumented pedigree. Multi registaring dogs is a good thing in most cases. Obviously some are better than others. I would for one like the input from those trusted dogmen/dogwomen to make Delta one of the best possible. However an association for the most part is as good as its members. I will do my part and so will Artie. And for those Kennels already in the organization they are unified as well. I know one thing even I was hurt by the sway of ADBA to do all breeds and not deal with the bluff, mongule issue properly. I never dreamed of such. I was not impressed with the speed issue but that really blew my mind. I didn't even want to believe it and still am having trouble with the concept. AADR, UKC may end up being your best choices for the large associations and the smaller ones like SDR and Delta a good alternative registary as an avenue to show and compete also.