What do you think of this pedigree

[redrott]

http://www.geocities.com/knjpitsnpets/Blue_Thunder.htm

what do you think of this dogs ped.

[shadyridgekennel]

looks like mostly AMSTAFFS or Bluff Dogs

[redrott]

How can you tell?

[shadyridgekennel]

because all of those dogs are UKC dogs

[semo]

looks like mostly AMSTAFFS or Bluff Dogs

i can second that.

[semo]

How can you tell?

by going back to the site that the pedigree is posted and looking at the dogs. I advise you to do a BUNCH of research and don't rush getting a dog. I was not impressed with the dogs presented on that site. But then again that might be your type of thing.


Once you have done a good bit of research you will be able to differentiate things better.

GL

[pancho]

because all of those dogs are UKC dogs
What about this dog?
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=16996 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=16996)

He is UKC. Great looking dog also.

[redrott]

What about this one.http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=179842

[semo]

What about this one.http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=179842
something looks off to me. don't quote me though, I am not a professional.


You should really consider doing a ton of research, instead of just posting pedigrees etc.

[redrott]

What do you mean research? Research what. I have been looking at this site for a while and all this pedigree stuff makes no sense to me. Besides like everyone on here says anyone can hang a paper so how do you know what you are getting.

[GSDbulldog]

How do you know what you are getting? By going to an honest, respected, and reputable bulldog breeder.

[circlekpits]

looks like mostly AMSTAFFS or Bluff DogsYou are right it is mostly amstaff. I dont understands this BLUFF stuff basically becaues in the beginning all AMSTAFFS came from the same lines as most of the APBTs. Knowing this and realizing that yes they are genetically the same how are they different except for the purpose in which they were bred and are used.?

[jadedpitgirl]

What do you mean research? Research what. I have been looking at this site for a while and all this pedigree stuff makes no sense to me. Besides like everyone on here says anyone can hang a paper so how do you know what you are getting.He means to research the breed. This site is not the only place to look. We can all give you an idea, but you have to find out what YOU like for YOURSELF. You may not like the game-bred dogs. They can be high-strung, highly dog aggressive, and can be a problem for some people to keep. The UKC dogs are pretty show dogs and most look similair to other UKC show dogs. Game-bred dogs tend to look different than the UKC/AKC dogs, and some don't even look like APBT's to an inexperienced eye. I don't think the pedigree is as important as the dog itself. You should check out different breeder websites, check out a local show or two. Determine what you want this dog for before you try to change the dog you get. If you want to show a pretty dog, than that first ped may work out great. If you want a dog for hog catching, than you may want to go with a game-bred dog. If you want a friend for life who does nothing but sit on the couch and hang out with you, then go to your local shelter. There are plenty of homeless pit bulls who would love to be your companion.

[redrott]

Jaded pitgirl that is the best reply I have ever seen on this board. If I want a pit that is a show type of dog why is it on here everybody acts like they are crap. Notice the first couple of replies about how they are bluffs and what not. Also the many threads on here about how people breeding those dogs are doing nothing for the breed. I like the show line of dogs. Thanks for the reply

[Miss Conduct]

i would NOT buy from them!!! NOT because i personally dont care for those dogs, but if you'll look @ the "Breedings" page, they will be breeding a ONE YEAR OLD male, to a ONE AND A 1/2 YEAR OLD female!!! Okay, actually she might be 2 by the time they do the breeding, but good hell!

Thats a red flag to me if i ever saw one.

[PitBull_30]

They look like mostly AmStaff with a little APBT. One even has some Wildside blood. They say right on the home page American Staffordshire Terrier/American Pit Bull Terrier. Their dogs don't look very impressive to me but it depends on what you're looking for (pet, bully, show, AmStaff, gamebred). Maybe if you explain what you are looking for in a dog we can help you find a better breeder. Also, don't be pressured to get a gamebred dog unless you're really ready to handle one.

[redrott]

I personally like the amstaff show type. The ones like this
http://www.panhandlepits.com/images/taylor_187.jpg

[redrott]

or this guy right here. They dont' have to be blue I just like the structure.
http://www.panhandlepits.com/images/taylor_0122.jpg

[jadedpitgirl]

If this is the type you like, I can suggest a few kennels for ya. If you would like to know, please pm me and I will give you the links.

[Patch O' Pits]

Ok a little off topic and not directed at the pedigree in question, Just in general something for you to think about as you look for a pup...

I don't think anyone should be breeding for one particular trait. For example structure alone or working ability/drive alone. Form follows function and that is how the standard was set up. LOL for some reason many think a 'pretty' show dog can't work. That is not necessarily the case. Also a dog bred for it's drive that has crappy structure can't work up to its potential. True APBTs are supposed to be the total package not just one piece of it.

[ABK]

http://www.geocities.com/knjpitsnpets/Blue_Thunder.htm

what do you think of this dogs ped.Most ppl here are not going to think highly of it. You are on a game dog forum & that pedigrees is stacked w/ UKC & AKC show dogs. If you are into the AKC/UKC stuff it's an OK ped - Ginny York has put out several show CHs. & the Falin's blood goes back to nice show stuff too.

These links might help:

http://www.yorkkennels.com/

http://www.circlekpits.net/

The Falins do not have a website, but you can get their # out of most dog mags.

Good luck!

[bahamutt99]

I'd be curious to know what they do with their dogs to decide whether or not they're worthy to carry on the breed. If a person doesn't show, doesn't health-test, doesn't work, just breeds, don't give them money for a dog. If they aren't doing any of the footwork themselves and are just relying on the selling points of a dog's bloodline (or a few champs in its pedigree) to carry them, it means they're just in it to make money and puppies.