where is the Justice!!!!!!!

[ydidushootchico]

Chico my 6 year old american pit was murdered last night! Since he is a (pit-bull) the sherriff would not even listen to my story. The 3 guys responsible have a history of theft, burglary, meth-charges and D.W.I., Therefore should not have access to a gun. They came up with a story that my dog was aggressive toward them, but they failed to mention one of them pulled a ball bat on me a few months ago. There are 3 witnesses on the police report and they just happen to be the same people who killed him! They beat him with a bat while 2 guys went in after guns, loaded them and then came back out where the guy with the bat was blocking my dog from running out of the yard they then shot him with a shot-gun in the side and a bullet to the head. If anyone was in danger it was chico! He did not bite anyone, but they had time to get guns,he still did not bite anyone and this is a justified shooting, B.S. These guys had it out for me so they killed my dog. It was all out of spite! They also say they tried to find who was the owner but they already knew, they even put in the report when the cops came that the dog belonged to me! The cops did not investigate they did not even mention the second gun shot wound that was not a shot-gun! Where is this gun? Why is it no big deal? My dog is gone and I am the suspect! I need legal help but I cant think straight because of the vicious way they tortured him. Chico has never bitten anyone and was raised around 5 kids who he protected! Anyone who knows what my next step is please respond before I lose my self-control and respectfor the laws! Actually its to late for that F!@# the law

[simms]

How did these ppl have acsess to your dog?

[Saiyagin]

The sherriff could be friends with the people who killed your dog plus I would of taken there badge numbers down.

[miakoda]

Most important question: Was your dog running loose unattended?

[Suki]

sounds like a bad scene, all the way around. And poor dog: wrong place at the wrong time...

I hope you get to the bottom of it, and sorry about your loss.
I agree, get badge #'s.

[missybee16]

The Sheriffs didn't care because it was a dog. They have more important calls to attend to. You should have called the Animal Control as well. With them present it would have looked better & they would have pushed the issue more. You can still have a report written up & have them put it on file. That way if, something comes up again, it's on report that the so-said suspects are a threat. I am very sorry about what has happened, but don't do anything that will get yourself into to trouble, it's not worth the outcome. Remember, what comes around, goes around. *Peace.

[ydidushootchico]

Most important question: Was your dog running loose unattended?

That is the only reason this happened and I blame myself. He got out through my garage door that was only open to pull in a 4 wheeler and someone did not close the house door all the way. Normally I would notice this and call 4 him and he would immediatly stop and come back. This time I did not notice. It was not more than 3-4 minutes between the door opening and the first gun -shot. I gave them the oppurtunity to do this and it is killing me. If he had ever bitten someone It would be a little easier to take, maybe! The cruel way they did it was completely cold-hearted. Also a witness who happens to be a 13 year old girl, lives directly behind them and she told my daughters today on the bus she was so sorry and that chico was only sniffing around our alley then when he was behind there garage in the alley (sniffing not attacking) they got him into their back-yard hit him in the head and face at least 4 times with the bat then blocked the opening so he could not get out while they got their guns. There is only one gun and one shooter in the report but two other neighborhood witnesses said two guns, two shooters and a bat. They did not even realize the wound in his head was a rifle or a hand-gun so why did they leave this out when they told what happened ? It was 100% uncalled for and I have never felt so powerless to bring this into the laws eyes. they are completley neglecting the fact that these people have a history of excessive force, (pulling the bat on me when I was trying to talk to him as a men should be able to work out problems to provide a better atmosphere for the kids.) And that they are all three friends who would agree to any story. Chico was amazing, I have had him since my son was 1 year old and he can never be replaced ! justice must be served!

[ydidushootchico]

The Sheriffs didn't care because it was a dog. They have more important calls to attend to. You should have called the Animal Control as well. With them present it would have looked better & they would have pushed the issue more. You can still have a report written up & have them put it on file. That way if, something comes up again, it's on report that the so-said suspects are a threat. I am very sorry about what has happened, but don't do anything that will get yourself into to trouble, it's not worth the outcome. Remember, what comes around, goes around. *Peace.
I have been given the run around downtown all-day but I will not give up that easy. I am goint to talk to the detectives tomorrow and If they blow me off then I will find an attorney. It was cruel and unusual punishment for an animal that has never attacked and I was 4 houses away I could have yelled for him If I had known he was out! I could have been their before the guns were even loaded! Thanks Missybe I have kids who depend on me to not do anything to get into trouble. I just can't have peace in this house or neighborhood now knowing chicos murderers are a few houses down and have no remorse.

[ydidushootchico]

sounds like a bad scene, all the way around. And poor dog: wrong place at the wrong time...

I hope you get to the bottom of it, and sorry about your loss.
I agree, get badge #'s.Thanks suki I do have badge numbers and alot of positive material from this site along with a friend at the newspaper. Although, I dont want to drag her into it because it may become a civil case against the sherrifs dept. for mishandling the incident, the investigation, or the report. So many facts left out!

[ydidushootchico]

How did these ppl have acsess to your dog? I have a privacy fence but the door into the garage was not closed allthe way so he got int the garage then out the over-head door without me seeing him. So I will have to say I gave them the oppurtunity by allowing him to sneak past but that does not justify killing a dog who has never attacked anyone in the 6 years of his life.

[ghost 1]

they still shuld have to pay for the dog,,,,sentimental value,,,, seeing that it didn't bite anyone,,, then they can't prove it was aggressive,,,there are stone cold facts here and alot of here say,,, truth is they shot ur dog,,,, noone got bit,,, so who's really to blame

[440rider]

is it legal where you live to shoot off guns in city limits? i suspect the city because you said the alley behind a garage. Slap a civil suit on those involved the sheriff and the ones involved in the killing. You have the police report you have witnesses. Good luck

[Attila]

Justice only comes from the end of your own barrel. It is called hunt them down and don't call any damn cops. That is why people need to tend to their own shit. Cops don't give a damn about you your dog or your land. They are looking for a paycheck for the most part. Oh there are a few that care but one in a hundred isn't good odds. Tend to your own matters. First of all you need to move to a better area. Then come back and hunt them bastards down and leave them laying face down to drown in their own blood and vomit.

[cheekymunkee]

Oh how horrible. I am so very sorry for your loss. Poor, poor puppy. I'm afraid if someone did that to one of my dogs, the law could in no way protect them from my wrath.

[BoiBoi]

Justice only comes from the end of your own barrel. It is called hunt them down and don't call any damn cops. That is why people need to tend to their own shit. Cops don't give a damn about you your dog or your land. They are looking for a paycheck for the most part. Oh there are a few that care but one in a hundred isn't good odds. Tend to your own matters. First of all you need to move to a better area. Then come back and hunt them bastards down and leave them laying face down to drown in their own blood and vomit.
Thats what im talkin about man, the hell with the cops they have never helped me out when i needed them so i have given up all hope that justice will be served by using the law. Shoot we all know that the judicial system in america is a big effing joke anyway, people get away with the craziest shit and nobody thinks twice about it. I say take Attila's advice and move the hell out of there as quick as possible, then after a few months once shit gets calmed down a little do what u gotta do to get justice for the crime that was committed to u. If u take this to court ur just gonna waste ur time and money, and because it was a pitbull we all know that ur gonna loose anyway, so i say do what u gotta do, FU*K the police

[440rider]

Justice only comes from the end of your own barrel. It is called hunt them down and don't call any damn cops. That is why people need to tend to their own shit. Cops don't give a damn about you your dog or your land. They are looking for a paycheck for the most part. Oh there are a few that care but one in a hundred isn't good odds. Tend to your own matters. First of all you need to move to a better area. Then come back and hunt them bastards down and leave them laying face down to drown in their own blood and vomit.
go Mr. Majestyk!



Where has justice gone, where does it hide?

Where has justice gone, or is it just another lie?

[ydidushootchico]

Justice only comes from the end of your own barrel. It is called hunt them down and don't call any damn cops. That is why people need to tend to their own shit. Cops don't give a damn about you your dog or your land. They are looking for a paycheck for the most part. Oh there are a few that care but one in a hundred isn't good odds. Tend to your own matters. First of all you need to move to a better area. Then come back and hunt them bastards down and leave them laying face down to drown in their own blood and vomit.You are reading my thoughts as if you were in my head!

[Dirty3rd]

AMEN!! Atilla is completely right. F*** the cops, handle it yourself, on your time, with your terms. I'm sorry for your loss. Be smart.

[gamebred26]

If someone shot my dog....and I knew who it was....I'd wait a few months let things die down.....let it pass.....

then go get my boyz from up north and black mask the worst beating you have ever heard of....breaking mother f'ing bones....

but that's just me....

[kanediggity]

this looks like it has turned into a real positive thread. :(

[miakoda]

this looks like it has turned into a real positive thread. :(
Yup. Just seems like we're encouraging those pit bull owner stereotypes.

I've just never heard of any cops ignoring the fact that someone broke into your home/stole onto your property & mutilated an animal. It just always makes me wonder what the rest of the story is.

[kanediggity]

im glad i wasnt the only one that thought that thanks. and it really does make me proud to be a part of this groupl that act like that lol.

[davidlau_2002]

Justice only comes from the end of your own barrel. It is called hunt them down and don't call any damn cops. That is why people need to tend to their own shit. Cops don't give a damn about you your dog or your land. They are looking for a paycheck for the most part. Oh there are a few that care but one in a hundred isn't good odds. Tend to your own matters. First of all you need to move to a better area. Then come back and hunt them bastards down and leave them laying face down to drown in their own blood and vomit.yup yup. all the cops are good for is being uniformed paper pushers. it's true that they don't give a shit because you ain't their family. i got hit by a trucker and tried to pull him over with the cops on the phone. they told me not to follow the trucker and give them his license number for them to pull him over. they told me to get off the freeway and wait for a cop to file a report. when the police came, she said that it was my word against his and he said he never saw me or got into an accident. the cop told me i should quit and settle my loss with my insurance. BULLSHIT lazy azz cop. (and my cousin's a cop in san francisco too so i am not hating on cops at all. i just think that they never, aside from a couple of good cops, try to rectify the situation if it's too much work in general to do. you know what happened, you know what to do, you know how your family is paying for others sick actions. you think those punks don't think they all got one over on you? they expect you to come. difference is they don't know when. the balls in your court and whether you return the ball or ask for the refs call, it's up to you. good luck in whatever you choose.

[gamebred26]

....ok yeah how bad this thread has become....no i would just turn the other cheek.....and bring them another dog to shoot and kill....cause it's a pitbull and probably deserved it anyways...


he already said the cops are not doing anything....and may even be right in doing so cause the dog got out....which makes it your own damn falt...

but I would still get some sort of peace of mind by f'ing them up....

they sound like scumbags anyway....

and I love my dog ....and would not be able to sleep at night knowing they got away scott free and killed my dog....

f' that get raw on em....

[Dirty3rd]

Yeah my bad. If someone beat my kid with a baseball bat and then shot them twice, I would just call the cops and let the wheels of justice just start spinnin like crazy. yup that's what I'd do mmm hmmm. B.S. We all have our own way of handling things. "Eye For An Eye"

[ABK]

I hate to say it, but if the dog hadn't been out, it would have never happened in the first place. Sure it was an accident he got out & we have all had an accident at one time or another but the fact remains the dog was roaming at large. That may be one reason the cops don't really give the case priority. That & the dog was a pit bull.

As for this "beat 'em down" B.S. I think it's pure foolishness. If these guys have sheets like he says & they did what they did to his dog what do you think they'll do if one of them connects him to their getting whipped? This man has kids & a wife to think of. If they beat his dog in the head & shot it w/ a shotgun what will they do to his wife & kid?

If retribution were to be an option I would first make sure I'd moved well out of that neighborhood for safety's sake.

Finally, as for the "F the police thing" I have to say I find that quite offensive. I was a cop in the military & I will tell you this: While you were asleep in your bed I was awake in the dead of night so I could watch over you. When you were eating Thanksgiving dinner w/ your family, I eating cold chow hall food alone so I could watch over you. While you opened presents w/ your kids on Christmas morning I was outside alone in the blowing snow so I could watch over you. Do you notice? Do you appreciate it? Do you even care? Usually not. In fact, the only time you even mention my kind is to either ridicule us, cuss us or ask for help when you're in trouble. But that doesn't matter. I still consider you "my people" & I will protect you.

Not all cops are the greatest, but remember what we have to put up with. We have chosen a dangerous job w/ long hours with little pay to watch over & protect an often ungrateful public. Some cops can grin & bear that while others cannot. But don't judge us all b/c of a few bad apples.

JMHO ...

[Dirty3rd]

I hate to say it, but if the dog hadn't been out, it would have never happened in the first place. Sure it was an accident he got out & we have all had an accident at one time or another but the fact remains the dog was roaming at large. That may be one reason the cops don't really give the case priority. That & the dog was a pit bull.

As for this "beat 'em down" B.S. I think it's pure foolishness. If these guys have sheets like he says & they did what they did to his dog what do you think they'll do if one of them connects him to their getting whipped? This man has kids & a wife to think of. If they beat his dog in the head & shot it w/ a shotgun what will they do to his wife & kid?

If retribution were to be an option I would first make sure I'd moved well out of that neighborhood for safety's sake.

Finally, as for the "F the police thing" I have to say I find that quite offensive. I was a cop in the military & I will tell you this: While you were asleep in your bed I was awake in the dead of night so I could watch over you. When you were eating Thanksgiving dinner w/ your family, I eating cold chow hall food alone so I could watch over you. While you opened presents w/ your kids on Christmas morning I was outside alone in the blowing snow so I could watch over you. Do you notice? Do you appreciate it? Do you even care? Usually not. In fact, the only time you even mention my kind is to either ridicule us, cuss us or ask for help when you're in trouble. But that doesn't matter. I still consider you "my people" & I will protect you.

Not all cops are the greatest, but remember what we have to put up with. We have chosen a dangerous job w/ long hours with little pay to watch over & protect an often ungrateful public. Some cops can grin & bear that while others cannot. But don't judge us all b/c of a few bad apples.

JMHO ...

I do agree that the dog should'nt have been out and understand that it would'nt have happened. But if what he typed is true, it was no accident to beat a dog and shoot it twice. Where I'm at you can legally shoot a dog in certain non life threatening situations. But not beat it and then shoot it with a dam shotgun and then one to the head. WTF. And now to the whole cop thing. I'll stick with what I said. I've never called them and never will. Oh trust me I'm not judging all. I know there are some good ones and I have a few relatives in law enforcement as well as military. BUT It's kinda like you know the risks when you sign up as far as that goes. I'm not gonna get into all this and go south with the thread because it's very personal to me and I'm sure it would offend you to know from the heart how I feel about the majority of of law enforcement. To me military is different. But in any sense I respect your opinion, and in return I ask the same. If you feel the need to further discuss this PM me.

[Red_Chrome]

I'm sorry but The dog shouldn't have been out PERIOD! The fault is the OWNERS, PERIOD! HIS dog, HIS responsibility to CONTAIN him. I am SORRY for the dog, but I have NO sympathy for the owner. AS far as the "screw the police" mentality. Well, that is my attitude most of the time. IF this would have been me in that situation, (MY dogs are always contained and there is no room for error.) I would have noticed if my dog wazs gone but say that I didn't, the people would have known that they messed with the wrong person. IF these people ahve the record you say they do, IT wouldn't be hard to get the authorities to believe you acted in self defense! That's just me!

[kanediggity]

well some people understand that a responsible owner as so many preach her in this sit ewouldnt hav let this happen and when you come to this sit eafter you messed up and everyone consoles you to make you fell better about messing up it is just as bad as anything that could happen with our breed. so just because you have posted some good thing son this board and people like you for that doesnt mean that you can blame any body or even law enforcement for your ignorance,. now i say ognorance not to be insluting but if you dont do right with your dog and something happens such as this it is ignorance and not very responsbile. and i know every so called dog man and women her is going to bash me on this but i dont care i am just speaking what i think and if you dont give a reason then more than likely you wont have reason to try and defend your dogs you know what i mena so to all yougugys that thinks that bashing a cop a cop is cool well yiu are way off and that is what i was talking about im not a cop and have been to jail but i will promise i deserved it and when you say this kind of stuff you sre just trying to promote the bad stereotypical nonsense of the breed. and if you encourage it well then to me you are just encouraging the extinction of the breed and explain to me what that has to do with helping our breed . you have plenty of time to talk crap about big dog blue dog but when it come to something like this you are all on the bandwagon to go against what is right according to law. so just maybe a blue dog big dog isnt all that bad they are not the ones that started this thread so what has to be done about this. im not a big dog blue advocate but in their defense what does some one have to say botui this dog my guess is probably notihgn but get behind it and support it because police are invlolved and i guess to you guys thats alright. i think that is wrong but whatever im glad that ive not made many posts on this board and that o know how the people here are and i have learned alot from you guys thanks alot and i hope noone else has to understand that sooner or later this is how this board feels . hopefully someone here will let me know that not everyone on this board are this ignorant cause i kinda of like this place except for the above mentioned.

[
robbie

[kanediggity]

dont hate me for what i have typed here but it affects us all when you sy stuff like what has been typed her and i dont want to be a part of it and if if this is what the site is about then nice knowing you all and the people that are right i will for sure keep in touch but i dont think leaving people face down in their own blood and vomit is what this board is about that everyone so cheefully agreed with is what this place is about. love you guys talk later.


robbie

[kanediggity]

yea i get silly late night fridays lol hope noone is too offended.

[ydidushootchico]

....ok yeah how bad this thread has become....no i would just turn the other cheek.....and bring them another dog to shoot and kill....cause it's a pitbull and probably deserved it anyways...


he already said the cops are not doing anything....and may even be right in doing so cause the dog got out....which makes it your own damn falt...

but I would still get some sort of peace of mind by f'ing them up....

they sound like scumbags anyway....

and I love my dog ....and would not be able to sleep at night knowing they got away scott free and killed my dog....

f' that get raw on em....FU%& Y@@ my dog did not deserve to be tortured you piece of shat!

[ydidushootchico]

I'm sorry but The dog shouldn't have been out PERIOD! The fault is the OWNERS, PERIOD! HIS dog, HIS responsibility to CONTAIN him. I am SORRY for the dog, but I have NO sympathy for the owner. AS far as the "screw the police" mentality. Well, that is my attitude most of the time. IF this would have been me in that situation, (MY dogs are always contained and there is no room for error.) I would have noticed if my dog wazs gone but say that I didn't, the people would have known that they messed with the wrong person. IF these people ahve the record you say they do, IT wouldn't be hard to get the authorities to believe you acted in self defense! That's just me!must be nice to be perfect wake up and come out of the fairytale I did not post this to argue or provide false info. I accept responsibility for him being out that 5 min. before I noticed but the fact remains he never bit anyone and was tortured not only killed! If he bit someone he may have deserved to be put down but this is over spite from living to close to a$$holes who are to weak to bring their problems to the street and talk things over as adults but pull bats and mutulate family pets. No need to reply your opinion is not needed.

[Red_Chrome]

I'm not perfect. Actually far from it, I was stating that it was your fault. I am sorry for the dog. I am truly sorry for him, he did not deserve this. That's all I was saying.

[ydidushootchico]

I'm not perfect. Actually far from it, I was stating that it was your fault. I am sorry for the dog. I am truly sorry for him, he did not deserve this. That's all I was saying.
As I stated before in other posts on this subject I know I AM AT FAULT!!! It was like rubbing salt in a wound!!! I didn't post my info. so you can bash me, I posted it to let people out there know that my dog was bruility beaten and shot twice and authorities done NOTHING, I am the supect as far as they are concerned. I didn't post my story to have people debate on whether it was my fault or not (we have already covered that!)!
This is what you wrote:
I'm sorry but The dog shouldn't have been out PERIOD! The fault is the OWNERS, PERIOD! HIS dog, HIS responsibility to CONTAIN him. I am SORRY for the dog, but I have NO sympathy for the owner. AS far as the "screw the police" mentality. Well, that is my attitude most of the time. IF this would have been me in that situation, (MY dogs are always contained and there is no room for error.)

My comment: I agree as far as there should be no room for error, but guess what no human nor animal is PERFECT. And if you have children and your child got out of site for a few minutes (which it does happen, you cannot totally contain them) I hope nothing happens but sometimes it does.

NO NEED TO REPLY MY GUILT IS ENOUGH AND CHICO IS GONE, DON'T TURN THIS BOARD INTO WHO'S AT FAULT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE REASON THIS POST WAS APPLIED IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!!

[Defend2DaEnd]

I've got a few things things to say

1 Poor dog
2 Lesson Learned
3 If its that bad where you live MOVE!
4 Sorry it happened, and I only say this because I know it's hard even though I don't think irresponsibility should be rewarded with sympathy.

[ydidushootchico]

I've got a few things things to say

1 Poor dog
2 Lesson Learned
3 If its that bad where you live MOVE!
4 Sorry it happened, and I only say this because I know it's hard even though I don't think irresponsibility should be rewarded with sympathy.

You are right about MOVE, don't worry that's just what me and my family plan to do, but when you buy a home it just isn't that simple to say JUST MOVE!!!! Also irresponsibility is not being rewarded with sympathy, did you read my post??? Well, anyways I don't need stupid comments, advice maybe, but not your ingorance!!! One day you will make a mistake and hopefully you will not pay like I did, but no sympathy needed from anyone, just letting people know that a dog was basically beaten to death and shot twice and suffered a horrible death while authorities twiddled their thumbs!!!! If I could post my pictures you would feel very different, the pics. are so horrible that this site will not allow them due to the blood, etc. Sorry your steps 1-4 will not be something I will remember.

[Bud]

I agree with Atilla, If that shit happened to me I would let the scene settle down for a little bit and BAM, say goodnight to bad guy. Sorry for your loss, I don't know if I could take that BS.

[ydidushootchico]

I agree with Atilla, If that shit happened to me I would let the scene settle down for a little bit and BAM, say goodnight to bad guy. Sorry for your loss, I don't know if I could take that BS.


Thanks for your reply Bud, the BS is hard to swallow but someday they will be caught slipping and get what they deserve. I have no patience for Cold-hearted killers and animal abusers!!!

Pay Backs ARE a Bit@&!!!!!!

[miakoda]

What's done is done & this thread has run full circle.