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“Right now there's a big fight over the paraphernalia and puppies,” Giocoppo said. “The legislation would mean police would not have to prove that animals had already been involved in fighting.” :confused: ??????
Passage of animal fighting bill is urged
By Patrick Anderson, Enterprise correspondent
Supporters of a bill giving police additional powers to control animal fighting are hoping lawmakers will pass the new law before the end of the year.
While current law allows officials to seize animals used in organized fighting, the new bill would allow police to seize dogs and roosters they suspect are being bred or have been bred to produce fighting animals.
The legislation is being reviewed by the House Judiciary Committee. The committee must approve the bill before it can receive a vote.
Scott Giocoppo, an assistant director of the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, which helped draft the bill, said it would significantly reduce animal fighting by curbing the trade of animals bred to fight.
“Right now there's a big fight over the paraphernalia and puppies,” Giocoppo said. “The legislation would mean police would not have to prove that animals had already been involved in fighting.”
Giocoppo said the bill would have an impact on dog fighting and an even greater impact on cock fighting, as it would allow police to seize eggs from lines of fighting roosters.
The bill's chief sponsor, Rep. Louis Kafka, D-Stoughton, said he was not aware of any public opposition to the bill, but was concerned someone was secretly trying to block it.
Brockton animal control officer Thomas DeChellis said his office has received periodic reports of people orchestrating dog fights, but was not aware of an organized animal fighting operation.
http://enterprise.southofboston.com/articles/2006/10/11/news/news/news20.txt (http://enterprise.southofboston.com/articles/2006/10/11/news/news/news20.txt)
cheese
10-12-2006, 07:10 PM
Isn't that a cops job? damn i should be a cop. lmfao
In that case they should lower a cops wages too.
Rottweilerlvr
10-12-2006, 07:11 PM
Can you really prove that someone is breeding dogs to fight? If it was that easy, wouldn't this have come about a long time ago.... I think this maybe their way of trying to get certain dogs off the street or home, saying he/she fights dogs... Hmmm...
Rottweilerlvr
10-12-2006, 07:11 PM
Isn't that a cops job? damn i should be a cop. lmfao
In that case they should lower a cops wages too.
Let's not... We work hard and get paid very little with little appreciation...
http://www.intruderalert.com/cafe/images/emoticons/bang.gif (javascript:addit('bang');) this is SOOOOOOOOOOOO massachusetts!!!!!! http://www.intruderalert.com/cafe/images/emoticons/bonk.gif (javascript:addit('bonk');)
Rottweilerlvr
10-12-2006, 07:18 PM
I like your graphics... How did you do that??? What's up with Massachusetts right now??? Alot of crap coming out there lately... Damn Yankees!!! But I like YOU, SUKI!!!
simms
10-12-2006, 07:19 PM
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“Right now there's a big fight over the paraphernalia and puppies,” Giocoppo said. “The legislation would mean police would not have to prove that animals had already been involved in fighting.” :confused: ??????
Passage of animal fighting bill is urged
By Patrick Anderson, Enterprise correspondent
Supporters of a bill giving police additional powers to control animal fighting are hoping lawmakers will pass the new law before the end of the year.
While current law allows officials to seize animals used in organized fighting, the new bill would allow police to seize dogs and roosters they suspect are being bred or have been bred to produce fighting animals.
The legislation is being reviewed by the House Judiciary Committee. The committee must approve the bill before it can receive a vote.
Scott Giocoppo, an assistant director of the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, which helped draft the bill, said it would significantly reduce animal fighting by curbing the trade of animals bred to fight.
“Right now there's a big fight over the paraphernalia and puppies,” Giocoppo said. “The legislation would mean police would not have to prove that animals had already been involved in fighting.”
Giocoppo said the bill would have an impact on dog fighting and an even greater impact on cock fighting, as it would allow police to seize eggs from lines of fighting roosters.
The bill's chief sponsor, Rep. Louis Kafka, D-Stoughton, said he was not aware of any public opposition to the bill, but was concerned someone was secretly trying to block it.
Brockton animal control officer Thomas DeChellis said his office has received periodic reports of people orchestrating dog fights, but was not aware of an organized animal fighting operation.
http://enterprise.southofboston.com/articles/2006/10/11/news/news/news20.txt (http://enterprise.southofboston.com/articles/2006/10/11/news/news/news20.txt)
I hope there is some public opposition!
I like your graphics... How did you do that??? What's up with Massachusetts right now??? Alot of crap coming out there lately... Damn Yankees!!! But I like YOU, SUKI!!!
the smilies I robbed from my M.C. group, and yes, a LOT of crap from this damn state. It cost so freakin much to live here, you'd think they'd cut us some slack!!!!http://www.intruderalert.com/cafe/images/emoticons/tongue.gif (javascript:addit('tongue');)
and
like wise!;)
simms
10-12-2006, 07:26 PM
Can you really prove that someone is breeding dogs to fight? If it was that easy, wouldn't this have come about a long time ago.... I think this maybe their way of trying to get certain dogs off the street or home, saying he/she fights dogs... Hmmm...
Nope, not unless they are actualy caught in the act....Otherwise its speculation.
simms
10-12-2006, 07:27 PM
the smilies I robbed from my M.C. group, and yes, a LOT of crap from this damn state. It cost so freakin much to live here, you'd think they'd cut us some slack!!!!http://www.intruderalert.com/cafe/images/emoticons/tongue.gif (http://javascript<b></b>:addit('tongue');)
and
like wise!;)
Suki,
You just need to come on down to Texas :)
Suki,
You just need to come on down to Texas :)
LOL! Yeah, then I could ride 24/7, 365, huh?!!!!!:D
and likewise Simms, I'm HOPING there's some kind of public oposition! fingers crossed!!!
pennsooner
10-12-2006, 07:42 PM
Man, that is chilling. When you consider that in historical cases where someone was breeding for gameness, only 1 in 10 or 1 in 5 pups out of a breeding of proven dogs would be game................Sounds like a reciept for wholesale slaughter of Pitbulls and Game cocks.
About what I'd expect in The Peoples Republic of Mass.
simms
10-12-2006, 07:58 PM
LOL! Yeah, then I could ride 24/7, 365, huh?!!!!!:D
and likewise Simms, I'm HOPING there's some kind of public oposition! fingers crossed!!!
LOL....Seasonal Conditions are more favorable.
Marty
10-12-2006, 08:14 PM
Suki,
You just need to come on down to Texas :)Nope she should be on her way to Ga ;)
bahamutt99
10-12-2006, 08:22 PM
Are there any email contacts for this? (The legislators I mean.) Paraphernalia laws scare me, because I typically have breaking sticks, syringes, wide collars, tug toys, springpoles, there's a chain setup in my yard, I'd like to get a treadmill, etc etc etc.
simms
10-12-2006, 08:34 PM
Nope she should be on her way to Ga ;)
LOL........:)
cheese
10-12-2006, 08:35 PM
Let's not... We work hard and get paid very little with little appreciation...where i live they get payed plenty...too much if you ask me. And if you want appreciation you should of picked a different career
TEXAS PIT DOGS
10-12-2006, 08:40 PM
all this is plain and simple is them trying to pass a law where they could sieze and kill every single pitbull or other dog they dont like in the state,plain and simple.the goal of that law is for them to be able to stop you if your walking down the street with your dog and them be able to take from you and kill it,they will tell you it has all the basis of a fighting dog.and based on it's breed alone they could say was for fighting.there better be some public outcry and quick or no dog or pup will be safe in that land,because they will be able to say you own a fighting dog just beacuse you own a bulldog.this is a pretty pitifull attempt to get rid of our breed as well as others,and if it is allowed there mark my words other states will follow suit.
all this is plain and simple is them trying to pass a law where they could sieze and kill every single pitbull or other dog they dont like in the state,plain and simple.the goal of that law is for them to be able to stop you if your walking down the street with your dog and them be able to take from you and kill it,they will tell you it has all the basis of a fighting dog.and based on it's breed alone they could say was for fighting.there better be some public outcry and quick or no dog or pup will be safe in that land,because they will be able to say you own a fighting dog just beacuse you own a bulldog.this is a pretty pitifull attempt to get rid of our breed as well as others,and if it is allowed there mark my words other states will follow suit.
I agree Tex, and I do think that other states will follow suit. My God, (ooops, I said the "G" word), ;) , I really wonder what goes thru the minds of the individuals that come up with this bull. All of this will be based on assumptions, and we all know what assume means....:rolleyes:
I guess, muzzling, high insurance fees, posted signs, limited # of dogs, blah, blah, blah suddenly isn't good enuff.
scary.......
miakoda
10-12-2006, 10:47 PM
Remember the meaning behind the nursery rhyme lyrics "Upstairs, Downstairs, We all fall down."? If something like this passes, it doesn't matter who you/we are, everyone will lose.
Are there any email contacts for this? (The legislators I mean.) Paraphernalia laws scare me, because I typically have breaking sticks, syringes, wide collars, tug toys, springpoles, there's a chain setup in my yard, I'd like to get a treadmill, etc etc etc.
no, Lins, but I'll keep you posted if I hear of anything, 4sure.
Remember the meaning behind the nursery rhyme lyrics "Upstairs, Downstairs, We all fall down."? If something like this passes, it doesn't matter who you/we are, everyone will lose.I know, Mia. Again, pretty frightening....
damn, stupid, idiotic state I live it!!!!!http://www.intruderalert.com/cafe/images/emoticons/angryfire.gif (javascript:addit('angryfire');)
no, Lins, but I'll keep you posted if I hear of anything, 4sure.
just got this:
STATE REPRESENTATIVE
LOUIS L. KAFKA
Telephone: 617-722-2305
Facsimile: 617-722-2598
E-Mail: Rep.LouisKafka@hou.state.ma.us (Rep.LouisKafka@hou.state.ma.us)
any/all letters, e-mails, calls, etc are hugely appreciated guys.
bahamutt99
10-13-2006, 02:11 AM
Bill's author. Nice. I sent him an email. Basically told him that paraphernalia is a bogus concept (short of actually finding a bloody pit or something), as is killing pups based on their breeding.
pennsooner
10-13-2006, 09:59 AM
The guys last name (Kafka) is appropiate, since the law he's proposing is surreal.
Pitbull219
10-13-2006, 10:25 AM
So, they want to charge people with crimes they suspect they're going to commit??? What was that movie......oh, Minority Report. Sounds an aweful lot like that.
miakoda
10-13-2006, 12:22 PM
So what's next? People who own guns, rope, or plastic bags will be arrested & accused of attempted murder because the own "paraphenalia"? If so, I'm moving to Puerto Rico with my friend.
TEXAS PIT DOGS
10-13-2006, 03:15 PM
sent him a nice little email,i do hope i get a response but if i dont i will just keep emailing him till i do.
14rock
10-13-2006, 04:13 PM
As I've done before, I'm making an offer to the members of this board.
If you are willing to stand up for your breed, the constitution of America, and our basic rights by contacting the state reps and voicing your opinion, tell us here, and receive rep points from me.
If you are so worthless you cannot spare 5 minutes of your day to make a call, type an email or send a letter, let me know, and I will remove you from the board so you may have some free time to do so.
This is something that effects ALL of us, whether we live in MA or not. As Suki has mentioned, once a law is passed in one "innovate" state, or city and gets away with it, all sorts of copy-cats come crawling out of the wordwork. I have never been to MA, nor can I recall really knowing anyone from MA aside from a few board members. But if you expect any help in return, when this comes to your town, you better stand up for your brothers now, or kill all your dogs your not willing to fight for, and not have to worry about troublesome bothers like BSL and other forms of anti-dog legislation.
I do not want emails posted here, or copies of letters sent, I'm trusting everyone who responds is trustworthy enough to not lie for a few rep points.
Suki, thank you for that contact information, you constantly are doing more than is called for, and we thank you. Your dedication to this board, is amazing, but more importantly,your committment to this breed. If everyone had the drive that you do, we would not be battling this issue, as it would of been squashed years ago. Thank you once again Suki :)
As I've done before, I'm making an offer to the members of this board.
If you are willing to stand up for your breed, the constitution of America, and our basic rights by contacting the state reps and voicing your opinion, tell us here, and receive rep points from me.
If you are so worthless you cannot spare 5 minutes of your day to make a call, type an email or send a letter, let me know, and I will remove you from the board so you may have some free time to do so.
This is something that effects ALL of us, whether we live in MA or not. As Suki has mentioned, once a law is passed in one "innovate" state, or city and gets away with it, all sorts of copy-cats come crawling out of the wordwork. I have never been to MA, nor can I recall really knowing anyone from MA aside from a few board members. But if you expect any help in return, when this comes to your town, you better stand up for your brothers now, or kill all your dogs your not willing to fight for, and not have to worry about troublesome bothers like BSL and other forms of anti-dog legislation.
I do not want emails posted here, or copies of letters sent, I'm trusting everyone who responds is trustworthy enough to not lie for a few rep points.
Suki, thank you for that contact information, you constantly are doing more than is called for, and we thank you. Your dedication to this board, is amazing, but more importantly,your committment to this breed. If everyone had the drive that you do, we would not be battling this issue, as it would of been squashed years ago. Thank you once again Suki :)
Geeeeze, rock. The mascara is pointless, today...
It's truly, my pleasure. I guess when it comes from the heart, it's easy. I do it for all of us, for every dog. Tx, hugely, for your VERY kind words.
Damn, for once, I'm speechless....
SLICK WILLIE
10-13-2006, 04:37 PM
Let's not... We work hard and get paid very little with little appreciation...
So, what do they do with cops that own and fight pit bulls to??? Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. It's PETA them sorry F'ers! Someone needs to do us a favor and bomb PETA!!! or force them to eat some "SPAM"
pennsooner
10-13-2006, 08:57 PM
I sent him a pointed but polite e-mail in which I argued against the logic of the bill. I also sent a cute picture of my dog having his ear chewed on by our kitten and pointed out that all Pitbulls are from "fighting animals" and that the vast majority are well adjusted, happy family pets. I also argued against seizing property without legal justification. I hope it works. At least he can't say there is no opposition.
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