Need Advice...

[mopardave360]

Ok so my Girlfriend's parents just split up 3 months ago and her dad left them (them being her, her mom, and her younger sister) all alone. Well in those 3 months, they have been broken into once, had people ring their doorbell fifteen continuous times in the middle of the night and then leave (which has happened at least 5 times), and always have suspicious cars driving slowly in front of their house and looking in their direction. Since the break-in, they installed a home security system and have security lights all around their house. Only thing is that they are still always scared something is bound to happen to them. I suggested to them to get themselves a personal protection dog. Only thing is that protection dogs cost so much money and I don't know if they would be able to handle a dog like that on their own. My girlfriend says that that is what she thinks they should get, only that they: 1. Don't have a fence around thier property, and 2. Have a two-year old nephew in the house during the day and i don't know how the dog would re-act towards him and all his weird little sounds he makes. I would LOVE for them to get a personal protection dog that is at least a year and a half old so they don't have to deal with the training and all the puppy problems, but they have no fencing. They do however have a fenced 30'x15' courtyard in the middle of their property but i don't think that would be a good place to keep a working dog like that, considering it is full of flowers and has a fountian in the middle of it. What do you guys suggest? Should we just get one anyways? Has anyone had any experience with personal protection dogs? (preferably Rottweiler/Doberman) Their abilities around Kids? Any reccomendations on where to get one? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I just want them to feel safe...

[Aceman]

Ok so my Girlfriend's parents just split up 3 months ago and her dad left them (them being her, her mom, and her younger sister) all alone. Well in those 3 months, they have been broken into once, had people ring their doorbell fifteen continuous times in the middle of the night and then leave (which has happened at least 5 times), and always have suspicious cars driving slowly in front of their house and looking in their direction. Since the break-in, they installed a home security system and have security lights all around their house. Only thing is that they are still always scared something is bound to happen to them. I suggested to them to get themselves a personal protection dog. Only thing is that protection dogs cost so much money and I don't know if they would be able to handle a dog like that on their own. My girlfriend says that that is what she thinks they should get, only that they: 1. Don't have a fence around thier property, and 2. Have a two-year old nephew in the house during the day and i don't know how the dog would re-act towards him and all his weird little sounds he makes. I would LOVE for them to get a personal protection dog that is at least a year and a half old so they don't have to deal with the training and all the puppy problems, but they have no fencing. They do however have a fenced 30'x15' courtyard in the middle of their property but i don't think that would be a good place to keep a working dog like that, considering it is full of flowers and has a fountian in the middle of it. What do you guys suggest? Should we just get one anyways? Has anyone had any experience with personal protection dogs? (preferably Rottweiler/Doberman) Their abilities around Kids? Any reccomendations on where to get one? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I just want them to feel safe...
I owned a German Shepard for 16 years, never had a thing stolen, broken or a doorbell rang, and i live in a place with quite a crime rate.

[mopardave360]

Do you suggest buying them a German Shepherd from a breeder then? I just would'nt have the time to train it for protection work... I know they would'nt either.

[truegames]

I have a female rottweiler thats 7 years old and she's great with kids she's never had any protection training but she is very protective of her family.

[Evil_Elvis]

i suggest a mossberg riot issued 12 gauge pump action shot gun quicker and more affective then a dog lmao just use buckshot lol

[TEXAS PIT DOGS]

for their sitituation i think a nice pistol would do better than anything for them.i would suggest a nice smaller sized pistol in a 40 cal.you can get you glocks and such all the time in the 500 dollar price range.then i would have her do some shooting regularly so she gets familar with the gun and how to use it and how it shoots.through the day place the gun in a easly accesable place for the adults but a place where the child couldnt get to it.then i would store the magazine in a easy place where they could get to it quick.real affective,it would suit their living sitituation for the time being and you know they would have something to protect themselves.now if that isnt feasable i would suggest get a doberman pincher,i have 2 myself for guard dogs and they have proved invalueable to me,they have no protection training but handle the task of protection i layed before them with extreme ease and excellent judgement.they are excellent with children and friendly strangers.children are always accepted,and strangers are accepted when i tell them it's ok.but when i am not around like late at night when i am sleeping if i am on a diffrent part of the farm doing something no one is accepted but children,not only will they bark to alert me but if that person pushes their luck they will bite and keep that person at bay.so for me this is perfect for my sititaution.and they are easy to handle so i think they could handle one pretty fair.but i still think on account of the living sitituation it would be better to invest in a top notch pistol.

[BamaBoy]

I would suggest a well bred American Bulldog. Where I grew up we called them White English...they were just old farm bulldogs back before they were being registered. Naturally protective of people property and livestock and great with kids.

[Suki]

I have a female rottweiler thats 7 years old and she's great with kids she's never had any protection training but she is very protective of her family.
likewise. raised 'em for 15 years, and imo, make great "watch";) dogs!
great with kids, too. raised both my kids with them. no problems, ever.

[Suki]

for their sitituation i think a nice pistol would do better than anything for them.i would suggest a nice smaller sized pistol in a 40 cal.you can get you glocks and such all the time in the 500 dollar price range.then i would have her do some shooting regularly so she gets familar with the gun and how to use it and how it shoots.through the day place the gun in a easly accesable place for the adults but a place where the child couldnt get to it.then i would store the magazine in a easy place where they could get to it quick.real affective,it would suit their living sitituation for the time being and you know they would have something to protect themselves.now if that isnt feasable i would suggest get a doberman pincher,i have 2 myself for guard dogs and they have proved invalueable to me,they have no protection training but handle the task of protection i layed before them with extreme ease and excellent judgement.they are excellent with children and friendly strangers.children are always accepted,and strangers are accepted when i tell them it's ok.but when i am not around like late at night when i am sleeping if i am on a diffrent part of the farm doing something no one is accepted but children,not only will they bark to alert me but if that person pushes their luck they will bite and keep that person at bay.so for me this is perfect for my sititaution.and they are easy to handle so i think they could handle one pretty fair.but i still think on account of the living sitituation it would be better to invest in a top notch pistol.

LOL! Tex, the pistol idea sounds good! Doesn't need a fence, neither!!!!http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[TEXAS PIT DOGS]

LOL! Tex, the pistol idea sounds good! Doesn't need a fence, neither!!!!http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gifexactley glad you seen what i was getting at http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[mopardave360]

Yeah I already gave her one of my Glock .40's. She knows how to use it as far as loading it and what not, but she's afraid to go with me to the local range when i go with my dad. I keep telling her that she has to get used to it to be able to use it effectively, but she's too chicken. So I think i'm gonna go with a dog. Probably a Rott or a Dobie. Should i find any Rott or Dobie and just assume it will do the job? I have a Rottweiler at my Office and he doesn't hurt a fly. He's the most loveable dog you'll find. Don't get me wrong, at 115 lbs., he's intimidating as hell but all he does is bark up until you go up to him. Then he starts wagging his little docked tail like crazy! I dunno :confused:

[JuckingFerk]

The shotgun would be the best bet. A pistol round can penetrate a wall if there is a miss, shotgun rounds generally dont. Also, shotgun rounds create a bigger pattern so you dont have to aim as well. This helps out in a panic situation. Lastly, even if the people were brought up in a cave and never seen a gun in their life, the sound of racking the slide on a pump shotgun will make the hair stand up on their neck. I dont think there is a sound that is more easliy recognized.

Ferk out

[MR BIGGS]

I've been thinking of getting a Rotty lately because I have a huge yard and I don't know this neighbor too well except about 4 months ago a body was found in some Apartment complex a few blocks away and years ago some kids came up missing, but it's not a high crime area. It's actually a nice blue collar area, but I just want my huge yard to be protected so I'm not sure about what kind of dog to get. I'm afraid of any other dog except APBTs'. I personally know someone who raised a Rotty that snapped and bit him in the head.
Also please keep in mind the dog will not be well socialized like my current female, so what would be best?

[simms]

Yeah I already gave her one of my Glock .40's. She knows how to use it as far as loading it and what not, but she's afraid to go with me to the local range when i go with my dad. I keep telling her that she has to get used to it to be able to use it effectively, but she's too chicken. So I think i'm gonna go with a dog. Probably a Rott or a Dobie. Should i find any Rott or Dobie and just assume it will do the job? I have a Rottweiler at my Office and he doesn't hurt a fly. He's the most loveable dog you'll find. Don't get me wrong, at 115 lbs., he's intimidating as hell but all he does is bark up until you go up to him. Then he starts wagging his little docked tail like crazy! I dunno :confused:
Has that dog been around children ever? I wouldnt jepordise the safety of the house w/a trained or untrained dog in a situation as you describe.....afraid of a pistol,they'll be afraid of a dog ...... ....

Not to mention the home owners insurance and if the dog ever bites anyone....thier Fucked!

Sign them up for self defense classes . If this has anything to do with the astranged spouse father, she needs to go on the record.

[mopardave360]

Has that dog been around children ever? I wouldnt jepordise the safety of the house w/a trained or untrained dog in a situation as you describe.....afraid of a pistol,they'll be afraid of a dog ...... ....

Not to mention the home owners insurance and if the dog ever bites anyone....thier Fucked!

Sign them up for self defense classes . If this has anything to do with the astranged spouse father, she needs to go on the record.
No it's not the father, he moved to Mexico. They think it could be some of his dead beat friends he would hang around with. They asked me if they should get an APBT but I quickly told them No and that they aren't that kind of "protection" type dog they would be needing. I'll probably just give them Lucky, my Rottweiler i mentioned earlier. I already took him to obedience training and he loves kids. He's not food protective or overly aggressive, unless i tell command him to with a little "Sshha". It's been a while since we've practiced that command tho...I just don't know what I'll do at the office, I love his company... Their homeowner's insurance should'nt have a problem with it, but i'll look into it. you think the insurance company would care if he were to bite someone even if they got it for protection? Last question. Is it true Female Dobies and Rotts are more aggressive then Males? That's what i heard... Not sure if it's true tho.

[jaystreetsA4]

damn whikle your at it get a presa canerio lol my grandfather always had GSd's for pp and he swears by them. good dogs.;)

[catcher T]

A pistol or shotgun does sound nice,,actually a little cheaper then a dog in the long run,,we pull dogs out of the pound all the time and train them up for protection work,,u don't always need a purebred,,depending on where u are as to what kind of training u can get,,thats where the money comes in at,,depending on the dog and the trainer to determine how much time it would take to finish a dog. Alot of trainers don't train for just "street" level protection,,or area guard work. that might take time to find that out,,plus u want a level temperment in a dog,,u don't want some loose cannon.

[jaystreetsA4]

yea i would think a mixed dog like shepard mix is more scarier than a purbred to me by looks lol like a dark one with bright eyes lol

[GAMEFASE]

You can get a police dog. Find a police dog trainer, and he will guide you. my girls mom got one and it was trained not to let anyone in the yard. one day they left, and the dog wouldnt let them in there own yard. isnt that some sh*t.

[LegendsMami]

I have a German Shepherd. She's excellent with kids. Never had anyone even attept to break in! I'm always comfortable leaving Legend at home(crated). I know she's not letting anyone in. She always makes her presence known. It sounds like she's gonna eat threw the door when the door bell rings. And she's onto every noise she gets up and checks it out!

[davidlau_2002]

for their sitituation i think a nice pistol would do better than anything for them.i would suggest a nice smaller sized pistol in a 40 cal.you can get you glocks and such all the time in the 500 dollar price range.then i would have her do some shooting regularly so she gets familar with the gun and how to use it and how it shoots.through the day place the gun in a easly accesable place for the adults but a place where the child couldnt get to it.then i would store the magazine in a easy place where they could get to it quick.real affective,it would suit their living sitituation for the time being and you know they would have something to protect themselves.now if that isnt feasable i would suggest get a doberman pincher,i have 2 myself for guard dogs and they have proved invalueable to me,they have no protection training but handle the task of protection i layed before them with extreme ease and excellent judgement.they are excellent with children and friendly strangers.children are always accepted,and strangers are accepted when i tell them it's ok.but when i am not around like late at night when i am sleeping if i am on a diffrent part of the farm doing something no one is accepted but children,not only will they bark to alert me but if that person pushes their luck they will bite and keep that person at bay.so for me this is perfect for my sititaution.and they are easy to handle so i think they could handle one pretty fair.but i still think on account of the living sitituation it would be better to invest in a top notch pistol.i agree except i might go for 9 mm. my girlfriend can't seem to be any accurate after 9mm. maybe bring her and her mom to the range to practice what they are accurate with? one thing more than target training is procedure training and thinking under pressure. lay out a plan for the whole family to follow. have them meet in the bedroom and get behind the mother. have her close the door and lay the pistol or shotty at the door and be prepared to fire at accurate intervals with the daughter being responsible for contacting the authorities. planning and getting the entire family involved decreases reaction time and indecisiveness. once this is all layed out, the only variable would be how well they judge the threat and apply the appropriate force. good luck mopardave360. night hunter is gonna be all over this. he will give you good advice. maybe some boody traps? ( )( ) sorry just had to make light of it a little.

[ghost 1]

now not to beat a dead horse but here goes,,,, i've had german shepards and what not BUTT the only dog to bite me on purpose was my 115 pound rott,,, so i wouldn't suggest one those,,it was truely horrible,,, i had to beat him down with a chain link fence pole,,, closest thing to me and the dog,,, never seen it coming,,, never

[mopardave360]

The whole procedure training idea is pretty good, thanks davidlau_2002. Ill run it by them and hopefully they will be up for it. As far as the Booty Traps go, I just set them up. We'll see what i catch...:D Thanks Guys for all the advice. It is GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!

[Attila]

I use Shar-Pei and a shot gun, rifle or pistol depending on where I am at.

[gil230]

I would go with the Mossberg 500 Model tactical shotgun. You girlfriend doesn't even need any ammo for it to be effective. All she had to do is "pump" it. I doubt that any one that hears that sound would want to verify if it's loaded. The cruiser models are bad ass as they come with factory installed pistol grips.

[miakoda]

now not to beat a dead horse but here goes,,,, i've had german shepards and what not BUTT the only dog to bite me on purpose was my 115 pound rott,,, so i wouldn't suggest one those,,it was truely horrible,,, i had to beat him down with a chain link fence pole,,, closest thing to me and the dog,,, never seen it coming,,, neverMy guard dog on duty:
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/1/6/2/1/Annabelle1.jpg

[ghost 1]

My guard dog on duty:
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/1/6/2/1/Annabelle1.jpgnow you know mia,,,i wouldn't knock your dog,,, but the one i had really got me and i went on my honeymoon and had my father-in-law care for him while we were gone and he got him to and when we got home he said you gonna have to do something about that dog,,,it was a true kodak moment cuz i knew what happened,,,,so the dog had to go,,,peacefully,,,never had i had a dog do me that way,,,maybe just that one but since then i'll stick to what i know,,,,,pitbulls,,,,

She's a good lookin rott,,,, and yes i see she's spoiled ,,,lol

on a real note--- you have to be like me dog poor,,,,lol,,,,cuz you have a dog or two

[cheekymunkee]

My guard dog on duty:
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/1/6/2/1/Annabelle1.jpg


HEY! Don't knock that dog!! That is the SAFEST sofa in the neighborhhood! ;)

[Pitbull219]

I would go with the Mossberg 500 Model tactical shotgun. You girlfriend doesn't even need any ammo for it to be effective. All she had to do is "pump" it. I doubt that any one that hears that sound would want to verify if it's loaded. The cruiser models are bad ass as they come with factory installed pistol grips.not for nothing, but you NEVER, especially in a life or death situation, cock any gun without intent on using it. If it ain't loaded and someone calls your bluff, you're history!

[ghost 1]

not for nothing, but you NEVER, especially in a life or death situation, cock any gun without intent on using it. If it ain't loaded and someone calls your bluff, you're history!

i kinda liked what u said bout an unloaded gun but like you said if your man enough to pull it be man enough to use it, if need be,,,, playing with a gun without that intenent will get you killed,,, most ppl talk big but when they panic they turn into a mouse,,,,

[cheese]

i kinda liked what u said bout an unloaded gun but like you said if your man enough to pull it be man enough to use it, if need be,,,, playing with a gun without that intenent will get you killed,,, most ppl talk big but when they panic they turn into a mouse,,,,
I agree i think a shotgun is the way to go. I dont know how rural you are but buckshot can be pretty dangerous in a house because walls dont seem to slow OO down at all.
Handguns are goood if you shoot ALOT because its gotta be like second nature. especially in a high stress situations. I go to the range at least once a month but if it came down to it....mossberg

[mopardave360]

So what? Do you guys think I should take back the Glock and give her one of my Shotguns? I don't know if she'd be able to handle the kick in it. I mean she is only 5'2" and weighs 110 lbs...

[cheese]

So what? Do you guys think I should take back the Glock and give her one of my Shotguns? I don't know if she'd be able to handle the kick in it. I mean she is only 5'2" and weighs 110 lbs...the kick from a 40 cal is decent. I am 5'10'' 120 lbs and handle the pump just fine.

[Verderben]

If you get a well bred Rottie, Dobie, or GSD you won't have to train it. They generally are pretty protective as it is. and besides MOST people who see a big ass dog like that especially one that puts on a "good show" will move along.

[jaystreetsA4]

good post HVAPBT:D

[catcher T]

now not to beat a dead horse but here goes,,,, i've had german shepards and what not BUTT the only dog to bite me on purpose was my 115 pound rott,,, so i wouldn't suggest one those,,it was truely horrible,,, i had to beat him down with a chain link fence pole,,, closest thing to me and the dog,,, never seen it coming,,, never
you must of had it coming

[ghost 1]

you must of had it coming
may have,,,,heee heee,, where you been?

[Rottweilerlvr]

If you get a well bred Rottie, Dobie, or GSD you won't have to train it. They generally are pretty protective as it is. and besides MOST people who see a big ass dog like that especially one that puts on a "good show" will move along.
WHAT???????? ARE YOU SERIOUS?????????? YOU are suppose to protect YOUR dog, NOT the other way around!!! EVERY dog needs to be trained, breeding has nothing to do with training!! They ALL need to be trained!!! I can't believe I just read that... I need to go burn one.... OMG... Gotta calm down, or I'm going to blow...

[Verderben]

WHAT???????? ARE YOU SERIOUS?????????? YOU are suppose to protect YOUR dog, NOT the other way around!!! EVERY dog needs to be trained, breeding has nothing to do with training!! They ALL need to be trained!!! I can't believe I just read that... I need to go burn one.... OMG... Gotta calm down, or I'm going to blow...You obviously dont know anything about dogs. Certain breeds are BRED for protection work, certain breeds are bred for herding, and some for fighting. If you get a well bred dog from someone who breeds for working quailties you dont need to train it. You dont train pit bulls to fighht just like you dont train a collie to herd. Either the dog has"it" or it doesnt. Now go educate yourself before you make yourself look like an ass again.

[Rottweilerlvr]

You obviously dont know anything about dogs. Certain breeds are BRED for protection work, certain breeds are bred for herding, and some for fighting. If you get a well bred dog from someone who breeds for working quailties you dont need to train it. You dont train pit bulls to fighht just like you dont train a collie to herd. Either the dog has"it" or it doesnt. Now go educate yourself before you make yourself look like an ass again.
I am well aware certain breeds are bred for certain tasks, but if you did your homework, rottweilers were orginally bred as herding dogs, not protection. Their job changed when law enforcement agencies started using them as police dogs in the early 1900s. And I'm sticking to my word, you can't just go out and get a dog and expect it to protect without training... YOU ARE ASKING FOR A LAWSUIT, because without training, how in the hell is it going to know right from wrong, when to bite, when not to bite... God, no wonder WE are fighting BSL, it's people like you who think you can go out and get a dog without training it!!

[Verderben]

I am well aware certain breeds are bred for certain tasks, but if you did your homework, rottweilers were orginally bred as herding dogs, not protection. Their job changed when law enforcement agencies started using them as police dogs in the early 1900s. And I'm sticking to my word, you can't just go out and get a dog and expect it to protect without training... YOU ARE ASKING FOR A LAWSUIT, because without training, how in the hell is it going to know right from wrong, when to bite, when not to bite... God, no wonder WE are fighting BSL, it's people like you who think you can go out and get a dog without training it!!OMG you are a fucking idiot. I never said you never have to do ANY training . I said you will not have to train it to be protective because that is what it is bred for. and yes they did herd farm animals. They also protected the flocks from thieves, wolves ect. IE: They GUARDED thier flocks. Your AR side is showing put it back in the closet.

[gil230]

I totaly agree with you. I guess I stated it wrong. What I was trying to convey was that the mere sound of a shot gun being "cocked" would most likely suffice to scare someone off.



not for nothing, but you NEVER, especially in a life or death situation, cock any gun without intent on using it. If it ain't loaded and someone calls your bluff, you're history!

[Aceman]

If you get a well bred Rottie, Dobie, or GSD you won't have to train it. They generally are pretty protective as it is. and besides MOST people who see a big ass dog like that especially one that puts on a "good show" will move along.
I agree, the only training our GS had was sit, paw, stay, and he would never let harm come your way,, never!!!!

[jadedpitgirl]

I use Shar-Pei and a shot gun, rifle or pistol depending on where I am at.
I agree AM. I had a few sher-pei growing up and god forbid someone try to come in the yard when an adult wasn't present;) Sher-pei are great for this job because of their attitude/temperment. They are VERY LOYAL to thier family (close 2nd to the APBT). They have a very aloof attitude, and are not really social dogs, they don't trust everyone right off hand. Another thing, if you get a pup, they are the easyist to house break. Our 8 week old pup was HT in 2 days:D . I have been thinking real hard recently on getting another pei for gaurding the APBTs, lol.

On another note, I had a GS when I first got married. My hubby was in the military and gone quite often. We wanted a dog who would protect me, and he did an awesome job. The only problem was, he wouldn't let ANYONE (other than hubby) come near me. I had to keep him on a short leash whenever out with him:( If you go with a GS, I would get one around 8-12 months. They are already housebroken, and past the "puppy" stage.

Other breeds to possibly try (size alone is intimidating):
St. Bernard
Neo Mastiff
Great Dane
Great Pyraneese
Dogue De Bordeaux

[miakoda]

Here you go Attila. Here's my bad ass with attitude.



http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/1/6/2/1/Wrigley.jpg

[jadedpitgirl]

Here you go Attila. Here's my bad ass with attitude.



http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/1/6/2/1/Wrigley.jpg
WOW Mia!! I really like him. I can't say I have ever seen a sable before.

[miakoda]

Jaded, his dam was a sable brushcoat Shar Pei about 50lbs & STUNNING! His sire was a 135 black Cane Corso. And I will NEVER again have a mutt with that kind of "breeding". He's been a challenge & a pain in my ass since day one--when he was 7 weeks old & growled at me & snapped because I went too close to his food bowl. Although he's a great dog now & wonderfully trained, if something should happen to me, my husband has my permission to put him down as my husband doesn't have the same control over him as I do. He's definitely a 1-person dog & thinks everyone else is beneath him (but we work on that ;) ).

[Verderben]

Here you go Attila. Here's my bad ass with attitude.



http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/1/6/2/1/Wrigley.jpgThat is an awesome looking dog !

[jadedpitgirl]

Jaded, his dam was a sable brushcoat Shar Pei about 50lbs & STUNNING! His sire was a 135 black Cane Corso. And I will NEVER again have a mutt with that kind of "breeding". He's been a challenge & a pain in my ass since day one--when he was 7 weeks old & growled at me & snapped because I went too close to his food bowl. Although he's a great dog now & wonderfully trained, if something should happen to me, my husband has my permission to put him down as my husband doesn't have the same control over him as I do. He's definitely a 1-person dog & thinks everyone else is beneath him (but we work on that ;) ).
Sounds like you have put a lot of work into him. I definately wouldn't recommend mixing a Pei with any other breed, especially something large like a cane or presa!! I know you didn't breed him, but was he an accident or did someone purposely breed the two dogs?

[miakoda]

Sounds like you have put a lot of work into him. I definately wouldn't recommend mixing a Pei with any other breed, especially something large like a cane or presa!! I know you didn't breed him, but was he an accident or did someone purposely breed the two dogs?
He was purposely bred & then the owners had all their dogs confiscated for abuse/neglect. There were 2 other puppies in the cage with him (a rabbit cage hanging in the air) but they were dead.:mad: All dogs were to be euthanized, but a friend smuggled the momma Pei & this pup out of there.

[jadedpitgirl]

He was purposely bred & then the owners had all their dogs confiscated for abuse/neglect. There were 2 other puppies in the cage with him (a rabbit cage hanging in the air) but they were dead.:mad: All dogs were to be euthanized, but a friend smuggled the momma Pei & this pup out of there.
Well how lucky he is to have found you. Such a shame about the others:(

[SLICK WILLIE]

Ok so my Girlfriend's parents just split up 3 months ago and her dad left them (them being her, her mom, and her younger sister) all alone. Well in those 3 months, they have been broken into once, had people ring their doorbell fifteen continuous times in the middle of the night and then leave (which has happened at least 5 times), and always have suspicious cars driving slowly in front of their house and looking in their direction. Since the break-in, they installed a home security system and have security lights all around their house. Only thing is that they are still always scared something is bound to happen to them. I suggested to them to get themselves a personal protection dog. Only thing is that protection dogs cost so much money and I don't know if they would be able to handle a dog like that on their own. My girlfriend says that that is what she thinks they should get, only that they: 1. Don't have a fence around thier property, and 2. Have a two-year old nephew in the house during the day and i don't know how the dog would re-act towards him and all his weird little sounds he makes. I would LOVE for them to get a personal protection dog that is at least a year and a half old so they don't have to deal with the training and all the puppy problems, but they have no fencing. They do however have a fenced 30'x15' courtyard in the middle of their property but i don't think that would be a good place to keep a working dog like that, considering it is full of flowers and has a fountian in the middle of it. What do you guys suggest? Should we just get one anyways? Has anyone had any experience with personal protection dogs? (preferably Rottweiler/Doberman) Their abilities around Kids? Any reccomendations on where to get one? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I just want them to feel safe...Get a German Shep or one of those Mal-n-waz I can't spell the damn thing but you know what I mean.lol

[Attila]

Here you go Attila. Here's my bad ass with attitude.



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That dog for sure has don't piss me off written all over him. lol. I love him. My Shar-pei are great. Bue Bue barks, Pudgy Barks too but he means business when some one crosses the border of the yard. If any thing "God Forbid" Happens to ya just have your hubby send him to me. I will just turn him out in the fenced in area and let him live out his days in peace. Nothing will bother him and nothing will bother my back door. lol. http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif No worries. That dog is sweet looking. Like me big and hairy with a mean streak. lol

[jadedpitgirl]

That dog for sure has don't piss me off written all over him. lol. I love him. My Shar-pei are great. Bue Bue barks, Pudgy Barks too but he means business when some one crosses the border of the yard. If any thing "God Forbid" Happens to ya just have your hubby send him to me. I will just turn him out in the fenced in area and let him live out his days in peace. Nothing will bother him and nothing will bother my back door. lol. http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif No worries. That dog is sweet looking. Like me big and hairy with a mean streak. lol
Hell Yeah, AM. He damn sure looks mean, lol