Crime Fighting "pit Bulls"

[Suki]

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link:
http://lawdogsusa.org/
anyone ever see this site before? just curious about opinions

[Diesel]

I think its a good idea, seeing the APBT with a badge and in the company of an officer is going to be GREAT publicity for the breed. All of the training and all theat is required for that just helps the image and from a functional standpoint they are perfectly suited to the task. The bite and hold that is required for the work is instinctive for them. There is very little additional training needed to teach a good full mouth bite. I have read a few books that have said how perfectly suited the APBT is for protection and sleeve work, based on those same traits that made them such great gladiators in the past.

I like the site.

[14rock]

Yup, its a good program, too bad its ran by someone no serious bulldog fancier can trust. Hell, the rescue people cant trust her either. Petbullers? Nope. She's bad mouthed us all! Its my opinion she does this for personal gratification only-I highly doubt her intrest is truely in the dogs.

[Bullyboi]

From my understanding that is Diane Jessups Law Dogs program and they place "pit bulls" as drug detection dogs with police officers....

[Diesel]

Yup, its a good program, too bad its ran by someone no serious bulldog fancier can trust. Hell, the rescue people cant trust her either. Petbullers? Nope. She's bad mouthed us all! Its my opinion she does this for personal gratification only-I highly doubt her intrest is truely in the dogs.
Didnt realize who you meant when you said "her".. now I know and I wish I didnt:(

[TEXAS PIT DOGS]

wrong,the pitbull is the least likely to make a good protection or guard dog because they have way to friendly of a nature and it goes against their nature to be a protection dog.the bulldog was bred to be non human aggrissive in fact any man biter was killed on the spot.and the reason for that was when they were in the pit they had to be handled in such a small space by sometimes 2 or 3 people that they couldnt have a dog that would bite,plus they couldnt have a dog that would scratch into the other handler or referee instead of the dog.so with that said i hardly see how what made them good in the pit would make them a excellent candidate for protection/guard work.i know one thing for a fact back in the days when i matched dogs if a dog showed any signs of being a man fighter i shot it on the spot regardless of how game it might have been,and all these years later if a dog shows any signs of being a man fighter it is culled.i aint had to do it but 4 times in my life but if it ever comes up i will take care of it quick.

[catcher T]

whats the WHOLE story on this brawd?,,I have tried to look up threads in the past and just didn't understand the whole thing from start to finish.

[14rock]

Lets not make this into a protection training thread please Tex, lets keep this strictly about the Lawdogs program, the dogs, and the trainers. Hope you understand, theres plenty of threads arguing that point, as well as theres enough threads letting people know what DJ has done for this breed if they care to search. Its best to not waste our energy kicking a dead-horse.

[Bullyboi]

These are not police attack dogs they are drug sniffing/ detection dogs from what i understand.

[catcher T]

wrong,the pitbull is the least likely to make a good protection or guard dog because they have way to friendly of a nature and it goes against their nature to be a protection dog.the bulldog was bred to be non human aggrissive in fact any man biter was killed on the spot.and the reason for that was when they were in the pit they had to be handled in such a small space by sometimes 2 or 3 people that they couldnt have a dog that would bite,plus they couldnt have a dog that would scratch into the other handler or referee instead of the dog.so with that said i hardly see how what made them good in the pit would make them a excellent candidate for protection/guard work.i know one thing for a fact back in the days when i matched dogs if a dog showed any signs of being a man fighter i shot it on the spot regardless of how game it might have been,and all these years later if a dog shows any signs of being a man fighter it is culled.i aint had to do it but 4 times in my life but if it ever comes up i will take care of it quick.I do agree that there are better breeds then others for protection work and civil agitation,,although the last few dog events that I have been to,,there were more pits there then shepherds and malinois,,i was surprised,,alot of pits won the events they were in. they were very impressively trained,,,training any dog for this type of work does not make them man-biters in the sense that most people see,,they are on command,,on someone else's head,,not biting out of fear or just the garden varity agression.

[TEXAS PIT DOGS]

Lets not make this into a protection training thread please Tex, lets keep this strictly about the Lawdogs program, the dogs, and the trainers. Hope you understand, theres plenty of threads arguing that point, as well as theres enough threads letting people know what DJ has done for this breed if they care to search. Its best to not waste our energy kicking a dead-horse.oh ok i honestly didnt know that,lol.

[Bullyboi]

"We partner friendly, hard working American pit bulls with explosives and narcotics detection officers needing absolutely reliable dogs for Homeland security and explosives and narcotics detection work.

We do not supply American pit bulls as "patrol" (biting) dogs; aggression toward humans is not a trait found in correct American pit bulls."

I took that right from the site:cool: ...

[TEXAS PIT DOGS]

These are not police attack dogs they are drug sniffing/ detection dogs from what i understand.now that i am all for i say train em to sniff out drugs and such all day long.i think they would be a pretty fair choice for that type work.

[Bullyboi]

now that i am all for i say train em to sniff out drugs and such all day long.i think they would be a pretty fair choice for that type work. I agree with yah tex

[Suki]

Yup, its a good program, too bad its ran by someone no serious bulldog fancier can trust. Hell, the rescue people cant trust her either. Petbullers? Nope. She's bad mouthed us all! Its my opinion she does this for personal gratification only-I highly doubt her intrest is truely in the dogs.



I agree 100%, rock, regarding your opinion of "ms" Diane, yet I'm glad for the dogs. IMO, it's a great service to/for them and helps to shed some much positive light on this very misunderstood breed. Pretty cool to see some Katrina rescue victims, as well!
as far as her true intent and interest regarding the dogs, I seriously doubt ANY of us will ever know that...

[miakoda]

14rock is right. And anyone, feel free to ask what happens to those dogs who don't make the cut.......why, she dumps them back in a shelter or euthanizes them. And not only that, but it's been documented that the dogs are returned if very poor condition (emaciated, etc) after being in her care. Those poor dogs never get a second chance.

[Attila]

Diane Jessup is a profeteeress. She will do anything that gains her notoriety and makes her look like some sort of sain't for her works. I would not trust her with any dog off my yard. However the wench may be able to bring some good light on the breed as a whole. We all know that the cuts get killed reguardless of breed and she is a troll for doing it to dogs that can be homed such as our breed. As HA isn't a accetable trait. I don't personally like her one bit and wouldn't hessitate to lob her head off but maybe not just yet. Lets see if it does anything positive for us first we can always use the enemy for some good now and then. Then feed her to the hogs. lol