View Full Version : Just Got A Pit & Need Some Advice
Joker62484
09-09-2006, 02:29 PM
Hello, I Just Got A 9 Week Old Brindle Female Pit Bull, Im A Little Worried About Her Attacking My Cats When she Gets A Little Bigger, I Have 2 Cats By The Way. Does Any One Here Own Pits & Cats? Right Now She Likes To Chase The Cats But Shes Smaller Than Them Right Now So She Really Cant Hurt Them But Im Worried That It Wont Stop. And Also She Bites Allot When She Plays. How Cant I Stop That, I Know Shes Just A Baby But I Wanna Try And Break That Habbit Early. Any Advice Would Be Great. Thanks
NcPrisonGuard
09-09-2006, 03:05 PM
I have 3 Apbts and 3 cats.. well 1 cat and 2 kittens.. They get used to each other. And the big cat I have puts a hurting on the dogs when she gets tired of them chewing on her. The new pup I just got Folsom has been the hardest one so far but the cat takes only so much then she jumps on his head all four sets of claws and teeth.. don't worry..just keep an eye on them. Pretty soon they end up like this...... nap time with Jorge the cat
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/5/6/8/2/DCP_0186.JPG
LegendsMami
09-09-2006, 03:07 PM
I dont have any cats but my Apbt doesnt pay them any attention. I took him over friends house who do have cats. You just have to teach your pup how to play nicely with them. I wouldnt allow Legend to chase the cats. And definitely wouldnt leave him with them alone.
Joker62484
09-09-2006, 03:31 PM
I have 3 Apbts and 3 cats.. well 1 cat and 2 kittens.. They get used to each other. And the big cat I have puts a hurting on the dogs when she gets tired of them chewing on her. The new pup I just got Folsom has been the hardest one so far but the cat takes only so much then she jumps on his head all four sets of claws and teeth.. don't worry..just keep an eye on them. Pretty soon they end up like this...... nap time with Jorge the cat
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/5/6/8/2/DCP_0186.JPG
yes people have told me that they will get use to each other but is there any methods that you use to get them use to each other? Thats a cute pic by the way, i hope ill be taking some of those soon.
purplepig
09-09-2006, 03:32 PM
The biting is probably from teething, dont punish the dog for this, but redirect it upon what it can chew on. Not the furniture, but....
Personally I see a cat as an acceptable chew toy for a dog!! I say get rid of the cats and get another bulldog!! they are carriers of eveil spirits and you dont want one infecting the dog.
LOL Just kidding, just kidding, your house is your business. I am allergic to them so they are off limits to my house. Apparantly those who are raised with cats have no problems with them. Usually a bulldog will be aggressive to another animal that it feels is either a threat(depending upon where in the pack it fits in)or another animal that it feels will try and take its place in the pack.
Phebes
09-09-2006, 03:39 PM
I have 3 apbts and 16 cats. All spayed and neutered. Didn't breed these cats they were all adopted from some very bad places. My 11 year old female apbt has never chased the cats but she does keep them in their place. She decides when they can come in a room. My male almost a year old was a terror when we first brought him home at 8 weeks. He took one look at a cat his tail stiffened out and the chase was on. Had us worried. But after almost a year of " don't hurt the kitty, leave the kitty alone " and many a time I had to run out in the yard shaking my finger at him yelling you leave that kitty alone, he now ignores them. But we now own his half sister who is 5 months old. We got her at 3 months and she was cautious around the cats. I have a very small 3 year old cat, not much bigger than a 4 month old kitten who would chase my pup and scare her. Not anymore, she is now relentless when going after the cats. But recently she has figured out I am not pleased and when I say don't chase the kitty she will now stop. Just be very consistent when using a command regarding the cats.
Joker62484
09-09-2006, 03:40 PM
The biting is probably from teething, dont punish the dog for this, but redirect it upon what it can chew on. Not the furniture, but....
Personally I see a cat as an acceptable chew toy for a dog!! I say get rid of the cats and get another bulldog!! they are carriers of eveil spirits and you dont want one infecting the dog.
LOL Just kidding, just kidding, your house is your business. I am allergic to them so they are off limits to my house. Apparantly those who are raised with cats have no problems with them. Usually a bulldog will be aggressive to another animal that it feels is either a threat(depending upon where in the pack it fits in)or another animal that it feels will try and take its place in the pack.
lol, I have had the cats a while so there will be no getting rid of them, thats why im trying to see if its possible for them to exsist together so i dont have to get rid of the dog.
thanks for the advice on the teething, i thought she was just trying to play, any special chew toys in mind? the lady i got her from says her dogs tear regular toys to shreds.
Be carefull! I had a cat when I got my first Pit bull, and they were fine with eachother untill Molly got around 9 month. One night when I came home from work I found my cat dead and Molly sitting in the kitchen, looking up in the roof like, -I dont know how the bite marks got on the cat, I barley touched it?!
IMO some dogs get along with cats and some dont.
Dirty3rd
09-09-2006, 04:17 PM
I guess I'm the oddball. My dogs will have nothing to do with cats. But they are'nt on the house either.
purplepig
09-09-2006, 05:49 PM
lol, I have had the cats a while so there will be no getting rid of them, thats why im trying to see if its possible for them to exsist together so i dont have to get rid of the dog.
thanks for the advice on the teething, i thought she was just trying to play, any special chew toys in mind? the lady i got her from says her dogs tear regular toys to shreds.
Get a Kong and fill it with the stuff, a pull rope, one of those bones that comes off in little pieces, not the kind that turn into a rag, but one of them hard messy bones. Some of mine like to play with sticks. When you buy new tires, tell them you want the old ones, and give this to them to chew on.
purplepig
09-09-2006, 05:52 PM
I have 3 apbts and 16 cats. .
16 CATS!!.......Wait a moment.....
16 CATS!!!!!.........Hang on...............
16 CATS!!!!
You are crazier than I am!! And that's sayin somthing!!!LOL
I'll be prayin' for you..
16 CATS!!! Do they all stay inside your house? How big a place you got? I am just tryin to picture this.
16 CATS!!!
Dirty3rd
09-09-2006, 05:57 PM
LMFAO no s***!!!
NcPrisonGuard
09-09-2006, 05:57 PM
I've had my big cat longer than the dogs.. so all the dogs were brought into the house at about 11 weeks or so.. and Sadie cat was already use to dogs because I raised her around my GSD that was stolen at 5 months.. Boomer is 10 months and the most aggressive thing is does is chase Sadie or one of the Kittens Jorge or Chiquita.. and now that Sadie and Jorge don't run from him anymore the only one he'll chase is Chiquita cat.. Cheyenne likes to hold them down and "groom" them... bites them like they have fleas, Folsom chews on them and when they get tired of him chewing on them they usually smack him in the muzzle and send him yelping into the kitchen.. But all of my cats came from the prison I work at so they are hardcore kitties...
but in the end I think they just think its all one big pack
CeeCee
09-09-2006, 06:04 PM
ceecee is scared of the neigbor's cats. LMAO.
mydawgs
09-09-2006, 06:05 PM
Two pits and two cats. My pits are crated when we are not with them, however my 12 yr old siamese is the queen bee in the house. She can freeze both my dogs with an eerie meow. BTW both cats are indoors and de clawed in the front. Guess it depends on the dog and it depends on the cat!!!!!!
14rock
09-09-2006, 06:07 PM
Socialization is key, but there is no gurantees your dog will be fine with it (or the other dogs) for the rest of its life, in fact, the odds are stacked against you with this breed. They are dogs, and thrive more off human companionship, rather than other animals. When mature, they may not like your cat/dog at all. I have two cats living in the house, but they arent allowed near the dogs anymore-they would be snatched up. When I leave, the dogs are put away,and the cats are secured in the top floor of the house. Even if your dogs seem to get along fine, when you leave, its in your best intrest to seperate them.
Attila
09-09-2006, 06:30 PM
Spray bitter apple on the cats maybe it will leave them nasty things alone. I would personally get rid of them dust mites. Evil things.
Attila
09-09-2006, 06:32 PM
16 CATS!!.......Wait a moment.....
16 CATS!!!!!.........Hang on...............
16 CATS!!!!
You are crazier than I am!! And that's sayin somthing!!!LOL
I'll be prayin' for you..
16 CATS!!! Do they all stay inside your house? How big a place you got? I am just tryin to picture this.
16 CATS!!!
Damn that is like an infestation. I would call Pest control.
mydawgs
09-09-2006, 06:33 PM
Spray bitter apple on the cats maybe it will leave them nasty things alone. I would personally get rid of them dust mites. Evil things.
AM you crack me up...my old lady siamese is all white with pink ears my husband calls her a lab rat. When she is content she drools....yuk, my man is always concerned for her when she does this as he keeps tellin me we really ought to put her out of her misery....Georgia style......now what in tarnation do you think that southern boy means.......hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
purplepig
09-09-2006, 06:39 PM
Damn that is like an infestation. I would call Pest control.
Amen Brother!! It would drive me nutz!! Course, I'd have to let em loose in the back 40 and take target practice!! OOPS> didnt mean to insult anyone, just have no use for the little boogers. I dont even know if I would feed them to a dog. Would you?
mikelia
09-09-2006, 06:48 PM
When I brought Sweetie home at 2 years old in december, she seriously wanted to kill my cats ( I had 4 cats in a one bedroom apartment). I started off muzzling her with a prong collar on and a squirt bottle in hand. She eventually learned to accept them. The rule in my house with my animals is 'you don't have to like each other or play with each other, but you have to tolerate and cohabitat with each other'. Sweetie learned that I was NOT going to tolerate her behaviour towards the cats. She is now fine with cats, she has her favourite, Charlie, whom she grooms and wrestles with. Any other cat she doesn't give the time of day.
I never, ever leave her alone with any other animal though, no matter how much she likes him. This is a very prey driven breed, and all it would take is one time for a cat to dash out from under somewhere to spark a bulldogs interest and that may be the end of the cat. Prevention is the key, and it is not fair to put an animal in a situation where they may hurt another animal, it is not the dogs fault, they are what they are.
As for teething toys, soak a rope toy or even a clean rag with a knot in the middle in water or chicken broth and freeze it. Take a kong, plug the small end with a little peanut butter and fill with chicken broth and freeze it. Nylabones and other chewies help aswell.
cheekymunkee
09-09-2006, 07:07 PM
Don't let your puppy get too rough with them, stop any rough play as soon as possible, don't let him chase them, don't let him chew on them, let them play together under supervision & they should be fine. However you should ALWAYS seperate them when you are not around. It doesn't take much for a dog to injure a cat even accidently.
Phebes
09-09-2006, 10:44 PM
16 CATS!!.......Wait a moment.....
16 CATS!!!!!.........Hang on...............
16 CATS!!!!
You are crazier than I am!! And that's sayin somthing!!!LOL
I'll be prayin' for you..
16 CATS!!! Do they all stay inside your house? How big a place you got? I am just tryin to picture this.
16 CATS!!!Only 5 are inside all the time, 6 go in and out. The rest live outside and we have attached small plastic dog houses to the deck railings with cat beds so they are warm in winter and out of reach of predators.
I live in the woods on a private road in a 5 bedroom house so we have a lot of room.
Hey I am not in this alone my husband is crazier than I am.......I am the one always saying no more cats!!!!!! He He He but I keep bringing home puppies.
I got my current APBT about the same time as you did, and I also had cats. My dog learned real quick about those claws, and other than occasionally trying to "bully" them, she doesn't bother them too much. Tho, it took many stratches and some work on her speed!
I agree to seperate them when you're not home. No need to take any chances.
gil230
09-10-2006, 10:32 AM
Azul is great with our neighbors cat since we spend alot of time over their house, but any other cat and Azul tries to get at. I guess he only tolerates that one cat because I have taught him to tolerate him, but I would never leave him alone with it.
Rocky H. Balboa
09-10-2006, 12:00 PM
Damn, I was hoping someone else had stated my thoughts so as to not have to post this.....oh well:(
Joker62484, sounds to me you did not meet the prerequisite to owning this breed. You got the pup before finding a solution to an obvious problem. Cats and dogs do not naturally get along. Who does not know this???? Yes, there are occasions in which a pup raised around cats will get "used" to them. Success depends on the level of prey drive in the dog. I can see this dog in a shelter in less than a year. So sad.:( At this point I hope that pup grows up with zero prey drive. That is the best wish to make.
What drove you to get an APBT pup? Sounds like you have your hands full with the cats.
What are you going to use the dog for once it matures?
Did you investigate the parents before getting the pup?
What are you going to do if you cannot "teach" pup to get along with cats? Did you consider that BEFORE you thought of getting a pup? I don't know what was your motivation.
At this point, you owning a dog and several cats, I will suggest you do not allow your dog to play with your cats. Its playing now maybe conditioning his prey drive. Teach it to leave the cats alone and visa versa. They must leave together but with mutual respect.
I wish your pup luck in its uncertain future.
So sad......
Regards,
RH
LuvinBullies
09-10-2006, 12:35 PM
I have 3 apbts and 16 cats.
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My head, my head. No comprendo!
Bless you, O great one! :) You must be some kind of superhuman or have the most laid back soul ever. Kudos for rescuing them, though, rescuing animals is always deserving of praise. Thank goodness you had them all speutered!
Never have owned a cat personally, all chances of that were ruined when I endured creepy roommate/creepy cat(s) package deals. Those sure were fun. Now I have the fear.
simms
09-10-2006, 01:38 PM
Damn, I was hoping someone else had stated my thoughts so as to not have to post this.....oh well:(
Joker62484, sounds to me you did not meet the prerequisite to owning this breed. You got the pup before finding a solution to an obvious problem. Cats and dogs do not naturally get along. Who does not know this???? Yes, there are occasions in which a pup raised around cats will get "used" to them. Success depends on the level of prey drive in the dog. I can see this dog in a shelter in less than a year. So sad.:( At this point I hope that pup grows up with zero prey drive. That is the best wish to make.
Why drove you to get an APBT pup? Sounds like you have your hands full with the cats. What are you going to use the dog for once it matures? Did you investigate the parents before getting the pup? What are you going to do if you cannot "teach" pup to get along with cats? Did you consider that BEFORE you thought of getting a pup? I don't know what was your motivation.
At this point, you owning a dog and several cats, I will suggest you do not allow your dog to play with your cats. Its playing now maybe conditioning his prey drive. Teach it to leave the cats alone and visa versa. They must leave together but with mutual respect.
I wish your pup luck in its uncertain future.
So sad......
Regards,
RH
Whats Obvious to some ppl, most ppl dont get....
ghost 1
09-10-2006, 02:21 PM
Whats Obvious to some ppl, most ppl dont get....
i can see what the end of this will be,,,,,,:rolleyes: 16 dead kitty's,,,,i won't take but one time,,, after the first one goes down the rest will just be a toy
simms
09-10-2006, 02:34 PM
i can see what the end of this will be,,,,,,:rolleyes: 16 dead kitty's,,,,i won't take but one time,,, after the first one goes down the rest will just be a toy
Well as this poster has stated.....dog goes before the cats.Thats the fair shake that this pooch got....
simms
09-10-2006, 02:37 PM
lol, I have had the cats a while so there will be no getting rid of them, thats why im trying to see if its possible for them to exsist together so i dont have to get rid of the dog.
thanks for the advice on the teething, i thought she was just trying to play, any special chew toys in mind? the lady i got her from says her dogs tear regular toys to shreds.
Sad.......wheres the accountability?
NcPrisonGuard
09-10-2006, 03:13 PM
Joker62484, sounds to me you did not meet the prerequisite to owning this breed. You got the pup before finding a solution to an obvious problem. Cats and dogs do not naturally get along. Who does not know this???? Yes, there are occasions in which a pup raised around cats will get "used" to them. Success depends on the level of prey drive in the dog. I can see this dog in a shelter in less than a year. So sad.:( At this point I hope that pup grows up with zero prey drive. That is the best wish to make.
I wish your pup luck in its uncertain future.
So sad......I think I'll have to respectfully disagree with you here, my Boomer and Cheyenne both have fairly high prey drives when it comes to chasing critters in the yard.. they've killed a possum, and a fox so far and Boomer messed up a stray mutt pretty bad last month. But when it comes to the cats they treat them just like they treat each other. Its a pack mentality if they are raised around each other they view the humans and the cats as part of the family. At least thats been the case in my experience. My dogs and cats love each other.. lay around together and groom each other..they play and wrestle and we've never had even the slightest problem with "prey drive" attacks on the cats. But for you to come out here and say you can see this particular puppy in a shelter in a year.. or saying that he had no business even getting this breed of dog because he has a cat.. thats a pretty shitty thing to say to someone... again just my thoughts... no disrespect meant
simms
09-10-2006, 03:29 PM
I think I'll have to respectfully disagree with you here, my Boomer and Cheyenne both have fairly high prey drives when it comes to chasing critters in the yard.. they've killed a possum, and a fox so far and Boomer messed up a stray mutt pretty bad last month. But when it comes to the cats they treat them just like they treat each other. Its a pack mentality if they are raised around each other they few the humans and the cats as part of the family. At least thats been the case in my experience. My dogs and cats love each other.. lay around together and groom each other..they play and wrestle and we've never had even the slightest problem with "prey drive" attacks on the cats. But for you to come out here and say you can see this particular puppy in a shelter in a year.. or saying that he had no business even getting this breed of dog because he has a cat.. thats a pretty shitty thing to say to someone... again just my thoughts... no disrespect meant
Oh NO, not shittie on RH part. However youve done a fine job of showing your own ass here.
NcPrisonGuard
09-10-2006, 03:45 PM
Oh NO, not shittie on RH part. However youve done a fine job of showing your own ass here.
Feel free to shoot me a PM and explain to me how giving my opinion based on my experience with my dogs is showing my ass...
Phebes
09-10-2006, 04:09 PM
I think I'll have to respectfully disagree with you here, my Boomer and Cheyenne both have fairly high prey drives when it comes to chasing critters in the yard.. they've killed a possum, and a fox so far and Boomer messed up a stray mutt pretty bad last month. But when it comes to the cats they treat them just like they treat each other. Its a pack mentality if they are raised around each other they view the humans and the cats as part of the family. At least thats been the case in my experience. My dogs and cats love each other.. lay around together and groom each other..they play and wrestle and we've never had even the slightest problem with "prey drive" attacks on the cats. But for you to come out here and say you can see this particular puppy in a shelter in a year.. or saying that he had no business even getting this breed of dog because he has a cat.. thats a pretty shitty thing to say to someone... again just my thoughts... no disrespect meant
I agree about the pack mentality.
My male apbt Buddy that died last fall at the age of 10 loved the cats. I would look out in the yard and he would be holding very still while a cat rubbed him. Only our cats. The first cat he killed I heard a screech went to the door to call him in, when he turned he had a large dead cat in his mouth. He was an equal oppurtunity killer, possom, cats, rabbits, dogs, he just loved dogs to stick their head in our yard and once a very large buzzard.
The others except for the pup are the same way. Our cats they ignore but a stray anywhere near our yard the go nuts.
My daughter has a 5 year old apbt who is the same way. Her cats are fine, stray cats she will kill.
My year old male will let the cats eat out of his bowl with him.
Esse818
09-10-2006, 04:13 PM
Wow 16 cats thats crazy.
Phebes
09-10-2006, 04:26 PM
Wow 16 cats thats crazy.think that's crazy I have 8 litter boxes
now that is crazy and I don't even own stock in a litter company.
simms
09-10-2006, 04:31 PM
Feel free to shoot me a PM and explain to me how giving my opinion based on my experience with my dogs is showing my ass...You dont handle your own accordingly,........You are NOT a Responsible APBT owner.
RH has more viable hands on experience and is versed fairly well with this breed....You are not.
RH did offer advice,you however did not you merely stated your oppinions with NO advice. Bragged on your dogs ability to kill verman and beat up on the stray runnin the nieghborhood.
My hopes is that you never get a good dog as all your theorys will be at the expence of that animal.
ghost 1
09-10-2006, 04:43 PM
You dont handle your own accordingly,........You are NOT a Responsible APBT owner.
RH has more viable hands on experience and is versed fairly well with this breed....You are not.
RH did offer advice,you however did not you merely stated your oppinions with NO advice. Bragged on your dogs ability to kill verman and beat up on the stray runnin the nieghborhood.
My hopes is that you never get a good dog as all your theorys will be at the expence of that animal.
he's been lucky,,,, he gets a good one and the cats will suffer,,,,now simms you know the dogs don't ever get a fair shake,,,it will be the poor ol dogs fault when the kitty is shredded,,it's like giving a loaded mac 10 to a escape con,,, i didn't know he would shoot someone,,,,:D :D :rolleyes:
simms
09-10-2006, 05:23 PM
he's been lucky,,,, he gets a good one and the cats will suffer,,,,now simms you know the dogs don't ever get a fair shake,,,it will be the poor ol dogs fault when the kitty is shredded,,it's like giving a loaded mac 10 to a escape con,,, i didn't know he would shoot someone,,,,:D :D :rolleyes:
Yeah, they should be lookin at it as if the dog is working on its DOC #.....LOL
no pun intended....
Good lord gives us common sense we choose to use it or we choose not to use it.
Since the OP, lacks the experience and basic knowledge of the breed or owning a canine. I suggest that you crate train the dog, do not allow the dog free roam of the house. do not allow your cats to eat from the dog bowl and vies versa.....those cats need to learn to respect the dog as well as the dog respecting the cats. No rough play with the cats and probably no rough play with you either. Spay and nueter imediatly!
Cats are cats.....but a dog must earn and learn its place.
purplepig
09-10-2006, 05:41 PM
You dont handle your own accordingly,........You are NOT a Responsible APBT owner.
RH has more viable hands on experience and is versed fairly well with this breed....You are not.
RH did offer advice,you however did not you merely stated your oppinions with NO advice. Bragged on your dogs ability to kill verman and beat up on the stray runnin the nieghborhood.
My hopes is that you never get a good dog as all your theorys will be at the expence of that animal.
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Esse818
09-10-2006, 06:14 PM
think that's crazy I have 8 litter boxes
now that is crazy and I don't even own stock in a litter company. Just dont become an old crazy lady with 100+ animals all caged up.
Verderben
09-10-2006, 06:26 PM
I dont understand why you would get this breed if the cats were a concern and you were not prepared for possibly having to separate them thier entire lives if need be.
NcPrisonGuard
09-10-2006, 06:49 PM
You know nothing about me.. or my dogs or how they are taken care of. I didn't say I was more verse or had more experience than anyone.. I simply disagreed with what RH said, I didn't run him down I didn't insult him..simply disagreed. I never bragged about anything my dogs did.. there was a comment about the dog's and their prey drive.. I made the comment my 2 dogs have a high prey drive but have never gone after the cats.. then gave an example of their prey drive.. killing a fox and a possum, and that Boomer got hold of a stray .. which was not "runnin the neighborhood" as you put it.. considering my dogs are kept on chain during the day, and I live in the freakin' woods..not in a neighborhood. The dog was close enough for Boomer to get ahold of on his 10ft chain.
I don't have a "good" dog.. hows that? Cause I don't fight them..they aren't "game".. My dogs are all good dogs.. they are well behaved..they listen, they get along great in the house and out in the yard.. they like OUR cats.. that makes them a bad dog?
So again how am I an irresponsible owner? Because I allow my dogs inside together..because I let them associate with our cats..is that where I am a bad owner? I've never claimed to have alot of experience with the breed, I've never insulted anyone on here.. I also don't give out alot of tips..mainly because I know I don't have the experience to be handing out tips. But I do add an opinion here and there when I have experience in what the topic is about.
Again I've never insulted anyone on here, because I have a common respect for other people. Which again is why I invited you to handle your problem with me in PM and not on forum... So anyway... Don't ever accuse me of not being a good or responisble owner. My dogs are fed, housed, their vet bills are taken care of, they are socialized.. they're good dogs. If you wish to continue this debate..again I invite you to PM me.
purplepig
09-10-2006, 07:02 PM
think that's crazy I have 8 litter boxes
now that is crazy and I don't even own stock in a litter company.
Maybe instead of simple prayer, I should pray for deliverance!!ROFLMBO
simms
09-10-2006, 07:46 PM
You know nothing about me.. or my dogs or how they are taken care of. I didn't say I was more verse or had more experience than anyone.. I simply disagreed with what RH said, I didn't run him down I didn't insult him..simply disagreed. I never bragged about anything my dogs did.. there was a comment about the dog's and their prey drive.. I made the comment my 2 dogs have a high prey drive but have never gone after the cats.. then gave an example of their prey drive.. killing a fox and a possum, and that Boomer got hold of a stray .. which was not "runnin the neighborhood" as you put it.. considering my dogs are kept on chain during the day, and I live in the freakin' woods..not in a neighborhood. The dog was close enough for Boomer to get ahold of on his 10ft chain.
I don't have a "good" dog.. hows that? Cause I don't fight them..they aren't "game".. My dogs are all good dogs.. they are well behaved..they listen, they get along great in the house and out in the yard.. they like OUR cats.. that makes them a bad dog?
So again how am I an irresponsible owner? Because I allow my dogs inside together..because I let them associate with our cats..is that where I am a bad owner? I've never claimed to have alot of experience with the breed, I've never insulted anyone on here.. I also don't give out alot of tips..mainly because I know I don't have the experience to be handing out tips. But I do add an opinion here and there when I have experience in what the topic is about.
Again I've never insulted anyone on here, because I have a common respect for other people. Which again is why I invited you to handle your problem with me in PM and not on forum... So anyway... Don't ever accuse me of not being a good or responisble owner. My dogs are fed, housed, their vet bills are taken care of, they are socialized.. they're good dogs. If you wish to continue this debate..again I invite you to PM me.I dont have a personal problem with you.....
Edit:I hate that pm shit,no need for it.
LuvinBullies
09-10-2006, 08:08 PM
Rowr! (Get it?:))
Well, the sentiment bugging me is "Gee, sure hope the dog learns to live with the cats, or else it's buh bye doggie, cause the cats were here first."
That is sad. Another rescue on deck, depending on how well he stifles his natural instincts. No love stories about kittys and doggies picking flowers together will help this dog. The bottom line is: no matter how well anyone else's dogs and cats get along, there is a chance this dog may not work that way. Why should he suffer for it or be punished by losing his home? Why of ALL dogs was an APBT purchased for this shakey situation?
Can it work? Maybe, and goodness I hope so for the dog.
This situation bothers me, knowing the poor dog was purchased conditionally like this.
simms
09-10-2006, 08:31 PM
Rowr! (Get it?:))
Well, the sentiment bugging me is "Gee, sure hope the dog learns to live with the cats, or else it's buh bye doggie, cause the cats were here first."
That is sad. Another rescue on deck, depending on how well he stifles his natural instincts. No love stories about kittys and doggies picking flowers together will help this dog. The bottom line is: no matter how well anyone else's dogs and cats get along, there is a chance this dog may not work that way. Why should he suffer for it or be punished by losing his home? Why of ALL dogs was an APBT purchased for this shakey situation?
Can it work? Maybe, and goodness I hope so for the dog.
This situation bothers me, knowing the poor dog was purchased conditionally like this.
The OP, has good intentions.....they are here seeking knowledge, preventative maintnance.Hopefully, they will head the advice givin and learn somthing.
Let it be known,I wouldnt and wont place an animal with Folk like this....but they already own the animal.....So,
I want this person to keep thier pet and be happy but most of all .....act and be RESPONSIBLE!
I might be a lil overly sensitive right now, as this lil 5 month ol pup has come to me under simular circumstances .
ghost 1
09-10-2006, 09:49 PM
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stings don't it,,,lol,,,, truth is as these dogs get some age on them the more likely they're prey drive will kick in and poof!!!! DEAD KITTY KITTY and then ppl like to put blame on the dog,,,
WAKE UP FOLKS,,,,CLOSE THE CIRCLE,,,,THIS BREED IS NOT FOR EVERYONE,,,,LMAO ---SIMMS
LuvinBullies
09-10-2006, 10:27 PM
The OP, has good intentions.....they are here seeking knowledge, preventative maintnance.Hopefully, they will head the advice givin and learn somthing.
You are right Simms, and it is a good thing to seek out knowledge like this, that they may learn how to prevent an incident. It's just the conditional statement already being made about "dog must get along with cats or dog goes". My first thought is always- where? Where does he go now you don't want him anymore?
Maybe this will help some: I own 4 parrots: A big macaw, a smaller amazon, a smaller indian ringneck, and an itty bitty cockatiel. The two smaller ones are fully flighted, and are out of their cages often, flitting around. (Only one out at a time!) The larger parrots also spend a lot of time on the couchs and their tree perches- not in their cages. A virtual playland for any APBT.
My dogs absolutely positively KNOW not to even give the birds a sniff. It's what I expect of them, and they oblige. And yes, they have been known to share the couch occasionally. Sometimes one of the birds will do a fly by, and I know not too deep in their inner desires, my dogs wanna play catch the birdie. But they DO NOT. Do they love the birds? Hell to the nah!!!!! They probably detest the little screwballs, but they mind me. The birds are only out in pairs at the most, usually just one at a time, and the situation is always monitered. Plus, the hookbill can hold her own and they don't want none of her anyway (she's a GAME parrot, see.;)).
Now, the biggest problem I have with the OP is the statement that the dog's fate is sealed if the cats are bothered. At least acknowledge the risk you chose to take, and act accordingly. If (Heaven forbid) one of my dogs experiences a brain fart grande and snaps at one of my birds, I see only one option: Discipline the dog for disobeying, bury the bird, cry a tear and that's that, don't kick anyone out over MY gamble.
Rocky H. Balboa
09-11-2006, 08:42 AM
I think I'll have to respectfully disagree with you here, my Boomer and Cheyenne both have fairly high prey drives when it comes to chasing critters in the yard.. they've killed a possum, and a fox so far and Boomer messed up a stray mutt pretty bad last month. But when it comes to the cats they treat them just like they treat each other. Its a pack mentality if they are raised around each other they view the humans and the cats as part of the family. At least thats been the case in my experience. My dogs and cats love each other.. lay around together and groom each other..they play and wrestle and we've never had even the slightest problem with "prey drive" attacks on the cats. But for you to come out here and say you can see this particular puppy in a shelter in a year.. or saying that he had no business even getting this breed of dog because he has a cat.. thats a pretty shitty thing to say to someone... again just my thoughts... no disrespect meantIf you disagree, that is fine. Yet, do you disagree that your case is the exception not the norm? Or do you think most dogs get along with cats? I may be way off here but it is my understanding that cats and dogs are natural enemies. The reason why I can see the pup in a shelter within a year is because, One: the owner will choose to get rid of dog before cats, Two: The dog is already practicing on the cats, Three: human obviously did not consider issues involved in having both types of animals. Hey, I stated he/she had no business getting this breed or any other breed of dog because he already has his/her hands full with the cats. In addition, the fact that they did not forsee any issues with having both dog and cats together is an obvious flag of inadequate ownership.
Your situation is an exception not the rule. I hope you do not give the impression that most cats and dogs can get along.
Just read your other post.
From what you wrote, it seems like you are a good owner of YOUR dog(s). The issue I have is your assumption that his dog's and cats' temperaments are equal to your dog's and cats' temperament. In addition, you are also assuming this owner is equal to you in terms of handling his own. Too many assumptions if you ask me. I HAVE seen people owning both dogs and cats peacefully. Yet, I will not assume this is the norm.
In addition, our well-bred dogs do not have the same pack mentality as other canines. Yes, there are some that get along and can be "buddies". This is not the norm and situation can change in a moment's notice.
purplepig
09-11-2006, 09:22 AM
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Your situation is an exception not the rule. I hope you do not give the impression that most cats and dogs can get along.
I always thought that cats and dogs naturally got along perfectly!! Cat is a natural chew toy for the dog!!LOL Just kidding just kidding!! I dont know about elsewhere, but the norm for Louisiana and Arkansas bulldogs and cats is that cat meets bulldog, cat dies. That is the norm from my observation. Of course, I am alllergic to them cats, so my dogs might sense my dislike of the cats and choose to help me out!!
One day cats and dogs will get along just fine. That will be the same day that the lion will lay down with the lamb, when the King returns. Until that day, keep the cats and dogs seperated, especially unsupervised.
As to the issue of this dog. I dog find it pretty irresponsible of the guy to have brought the dog home 'hoping' the dog and the cat would get along, and if they didnt the dog would have to go. I figure irresponsibility and not much smarts. Who in their right mind would choose a cat over a bulldog? Not I. I also feel like this dog will probably end up at a shelter, might as well go ahead and cull the pup and save it from suffering. The dog wants acceptance and to please its master, and the master is trying to get the dog to be something it probably wont be. Kinda like trying to tell a boy that it is natural for him to be gay. BONK! wrong answer Eli! Two men were not created to join together, the fella that came up with that theory I'd hate to see him put a jigsaw puzzle together, can you imagine the pieces forced together that werent meant to, and what would the puzzle end up looking like? Cats and dogs. Man, seems like there has been many books,movies stories written about how they dont get along, kinda like a cat and mouse.
miakoda
09-11-2006, 11:25 AM
Dogs and cats are NATURAL born enemies. The predator/prey drive between the two is instinctual. Although many people out there have dogs & cats that coexist peacefully, it is NOT the norm. Those homes are still the minority.
How is it that many people preach "never trust a pit bull around another dog" yet turn around & state that they will get along just fine with cats if raised together? It makes no sense & honestly worries me.
Do NOT expect your dog to get along with the cats. My friends lab mix slaughtered 1 of their cats.....& they were raised together from kitten/puppyhood & were about 3 yrs of age when it happened. Don't ever trust enemies to get along. Nature has exceptions to the rule sometimes, but you cannot change nature.
purplepig
09-11-2006, 11:44 AM
How is it that many people preach "never trust a pit bull around another dog" yet turn around & state that they will get along just fine with cats if raised together? It makes no sense & honestly worries me.
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Props to you sister!! Preach it!
Wondering the same thing.
Attila
09-11-2006, 12:05 PM
Personally cat removal is a positive aspect of dogs. I am glad they are natural enemies. They used to compete for food in the wild and small cats fell prey to dogs and small dogs to large cats. It is fair. I can't stand cats anyway so the less the better. Raise your pit with the cats. I think it is a grand idea. Just don't be mad at the innoccent dog when that cat pisses it off for the last time. After all cats are evil. They got them serpent eyes.
NcPrisonGuard
09-11-2006, 03:21 PM
Your situation is an exception not the rule. I hope you do not give the impression that most cats and dogs can get along.
Just read your other post.
From what you wrote, it seems like you are a good owner of YOUR dog(s). The issue I have is your assumption that his dog's and cats' temperaments are equal to your dog's and cats' temperament. In addition, you are also assuming this owner is equal to you in terms of handling his own. Too many assumptions if you ask me. I HAVE seen people owning both dogs and cats peacefully. Yet, I will not assume this is the norm.
I completely agree with the fact that my situation is not the norm. MY dog's get along with My cats and each other. They will go after other cats and other dogs that happen around the yard. I also agree that this breed isn't for everyone, and people should think about possible problems before getting this or any other breed especially one's known for their prey drive when he already has a house full of cats.
pennsooner
09-11-2006, 04:48 PM
If you raise them up together she should be fine, as long as you are around. You don't want to leave them toether unsupervised no matter how well they seem to get along.
Some of might depend on the dog but the majority of Pitbulls raised with a cat will be fine with "their" cat. Under your supervision of course.
jadedpitgirl
09-12-2006, 08:01 AM
Let me first say, that my situation is nowhere near the NORM, lol. About 4 years ago, I started feeding a stray female cat. Before long, her 3 kittens would come to eat with her. We trapped the kittens, found them homes, blah, blah, blah. We kept one. We called her Meanie, because she was the biggest bitch of an animal I had ever known. At this time, we had our Sorrell's bred APBT Kain for about 2 years, and a little brindle APBT pup. Neither had ever been around cats (that I know of). Now, for some reason these two dogs took to this bitchy cat. They never liked any other cats, but never once touched her. Meanie even had a litter of kittens in Kain's doghouse. She did not like people other than my husband and I and our kids, but God she loved Kain. She was not a house cat, and always stayed outside, though we tried our hardest to keep her indoors. She retained some feral instincts, and always had a wild look in her eye. When Kain passed last year, Meanie disappeared. We haven't seen her since.
SMOKIN HEMI
09-12-2006, 08:59 AM
look you will be ok if you raise them together sometimes they will have a pecking order. You need to watch them very closely though. At 9 wks I think that cat would get in that ass right about now...
Rocky H. Balboa
09-12-2006, 09:35 AM
PEOPLE, where is the logic in your statements?????? You acknowledge that our dogs are not safe with their own kind but will be OK around other animals???????
I imagine you are the same people that believe raising multiple game dogs together will make them a pack and will be fine. :rolleyes:
For those who believe these gullible statements, this breed is not for everyone. No offense intended, just pointing out conflicts in logic.
I do not like cats at all. Yet, I respect all animals and their right to exist. I do not condone any type of animal abuse even at the expense of cats.
Regards,
RH
Attila
09-12-2006, 10:15 AM
look you will be ok if you raise them together sometimes they will have a pecking order. You need to watch them very closely though. At 9 wks I think that cat would get in that ass right about now...
I would be highly upset if I got home to find a cat in my dogs ass. lol
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