The real dog doesnt bark

[PIt4life]

I have read this in a lot of places, that a dog who is barking, snarling, growling, and has its hackles raised is a cur and affarid. But the dog who is simpley watching, but will fight, is confident.
I feel this is true, if a dog was truely sure of himself why would he have to go around proveing it to everyone?

I have seen so many people with game dogs that are doing all of the above, are they not confident in themselfs? I think not, i dont care game or not.... hes not confident.

What do you guys think??


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[kane85]

i have noticed that too. dogs that bark will bark and when its time to get down they will continue barking but also backing away. and other dogs that i have seen that dont do that when its time to play(we all know what i'am talking about)those dog are quite wont make noise and the most they will do is just pull to were the other dog is or when its go time they will get down to what they have to do.

[OhRex]

Hmm... that makes sense. Rex will just look at another dog that is barking like an idiot. He rarely barks.

[LegendsMami]

My dad told me the same thing after this happen~~> I was out on a walk with Legend and had stopped to talk to someone. And a guy who tests his dog in the [] walked really close by and his dog barked in Legend's face. I've never been yanked and pulled so hard. the whites of his eyes turned red and he tuned me out! I ended up having to grab him by the collar and pick him up by his front and turn him around and hold him down so he couldnt see the dog. And after about struggling with him for about 3 minutes so he couldnt see the dog he would whine a little and yank really hard. I dont know if my dog is game but I damn sure don't wanna find out!

[truegames]

I have a heavy bred redboy/jocko male that I've never heard bark he's 8 now and calming down in his old age but as a young buck he was hell on legs.

[njchmin]

In my experience with dogs the loud ones dont really want to fight. Its the quiet ones that you have to watch out for.

[tommy3]

From my experiences, it is not true. I know of dogs that will actually make alot of noise. Not necessarilly barking, more like screaming. They scream because they want to get to the other dog. It is not meant to be a threat like barking. Also, I have heard of dogs that raised their hackles and barked before they were touched. Of course, that changed after they were started.

[jeeperino]

I have read this in a lot of places, that a dog who is barking, snarling, growling, and has its hackles raised is a cur and affarid. But the dog who is simpley watching, but will fight, is confident.
I feel this is true, if a dog was truely sure of himself why would he have to go around proveing it to everyone?

I have seen so many people with game dogs that are doing all of the above, are they not confident in themselfs? I think not, i dont care game or not.... hes not confident.

What do you guys think??


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Dogs will be dogs.Some will be quiet, some will scream, some will bark. It is no indicator on how game or confident the dog is. Sounds like old wives tales to me. Kinda like the old tale of how all black dogs are curs and itsblack is not a true color for an apbt. I doubt you have seen many people with GAME dogs as well. If the dog is a true GAME dog and wins but is not confident.....WHO CARES!!! Its not a battle of egos, its WAR. As far as proving "it" to everyone (who is everyone?); again dogs will be dogs.

Sorry to sound like an asshole, but this thread got on my nerves.

[tommy3]

Dogs will be dogs.Some will be quiet, some will scream, some will bark. It is no indicator on how game or confident the dog is. Sounds like old wives tales to me. Kinda like the old tale of how all black dogs are curs and itsblack is not a true color for an apbt. I doubt you have seen many people with GAME dogs as well. If the dog is a true GAME dog and wins but is not confident.....WHO CARES!!! Its not a battle of egos, its WAR. As far as proving "it" to everyone (who is everyone?); again dogs will be dogs.

Sorry to sound like an asshole, but this thread got on my nerves.
Exactly...

[hillbilly]

Dogs will be dogs.Some will be quiet, some will scream, some will bark. It is no indicator on how game or confident the dog is. Sounds like old wives tales to me. Kinda like the old tale of how all black dogs are curs and itsblack is not a true color for an apbt. I doubt you have seen many people with GAME dogs as well. If the dog is a true GAME dog and wins but is not confident.....WHO CARES!!! Its not a battle of egos, its WAR. As far as proving "it" to everyone (who is everyone?); again dogs will be dogs.

Sorry to sound like an asshole, but this thread got on my nerves.
i totally agree with you

[Esse818]

diagree and agree, my pit crys for any other cats and dogs that are loose. however when they are behind a fence she stays very quit and sometimes moves a little faster. put sorry to say she got in a fight with another pit that wasn't on a leash and she put it on its place.

[Evil_Elvis]

From my experiences, it is not true. I know of dogs that will actually make alot of noise. Not necessarilly barking, more like screaming. They scream because they want to get to the other dog. It is not meant to be a threat like barking. Also, I have heard of dogs that raised their hackles and barked before they were touched. Of course, that changed after they were started.
thats what im thinking lol

[bahamutt99]

It depends on the dog I guess. Every one of mine has had a different way of dealing with other dogs. I had a dog several years ago that would see a dog several blocks away and start screaming and trying to get over there. My current dog stood in the Judge's Choice ring at a local show with at least 20 other dogs and was not impressed with the barking at all -- actually got bored enough to lay down -- but if she thinks another dog really wants a piece, she will stand at attention or quietly try to get to them. My Akita/pit would bluff and bark, but would still grab on and go to town if another dog came within her reach. And yet another dog I had wouldn't show an ounce of aggression until grabbed by another dog, but for some reason she seemed to really enjoy herself once engaged.

It takes all kinds, I s'pose.

[440rider]

dogs bark!!!!...where does this stuff come from..how many dogs have ya'll owned and been around to ask that question? Ya'll bragging about dogs putting other dogs in it's place and people you meet on the street rolling their dogs and and how bad ass ya'lls dogs are....i dont know who's bark is louder the dog or the owner? Who cares is right! So much BS flies around this board it's almost comical and ya'll talk about the media spreading BS.

[ghost 1]

mine don't bark alot but if it gets to close it will get warned

[MR BIGGS]

My female remains calm while pulling and whining to get to another dog or any animal for that matter and she comes from a 6x winner, don't know if that means much since her sire wasn't papered.

BTW: in the picture below is her pulling and whining to get to a squirrel

[SMOKIN HEMI]

Smokey doesn't bark he gets in a very statueues posture ears are erect, tail does the fimilar u up. You can feel a deep growl vibrating his leash. I've yet to hear him bark. He is all buisness...http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/5/4/1/5/__photoAttachment_Vp7Uu7YH__400__400__photo_6.jpg

[FearlessKnight]

black_caesar72]Smokey doesn't bark he gets in a very statueues posture ears are erect, tail does the fimilar u up. You can feel a deep growl vibrating his leash. I've yet to hear him bark. He is all buisness.
Dont know how much of nothing this means but, I read this in the UKC guidlines...what they except (accept) and disregard (not accepted).....

The American Pit Bull Terrier (Tail)
The true APBT's tail should always erect in a straight format and should never curl up into the air. This is called a ~gay tail~ According to the historical standards, a gay tail is diqualified in UKC. It shows lack of confindence and gameness that the true APBT was bred for generations ago.

I found it quite interesting and just thought I would share with you all!

[FearlessKnight]

Now back to thread, we had a dog a while back that was a handful....
With this particular dog I would have to disagree with what was said before.

He would bark all day long at other dogs and any animal that came across his path, had he had the chance, he would have gotten the best of them. I say this because, the place we lived, he was on a chain in our fenced in backyard. One day we neglegted to close the gate (as we sometimes did when were out there) but this day was one to remember......A stray (I am assuming) came in our yard (looked like pit bull mix) and went straight to Sonnie.....Sonnie when got out there had gotten the best of her. We had never had anything like this happen, so for the first time we had to break up a fight....It was scary!

But the point of this was.....Sonnie barked and was very aggressive towards anything that moved......but when it came down to it.....he stood his ground.
Unfortunately, we ended up having to get rid of him...he was too agressive and I didn't like it....not when he tended to start showing it towards people also...sold to a man that lived deep in the country....where he could be himself!

I think (like was said before) DOGS WILL BE DOGS! It doesnt matter if they sit back and watch or if they bark all day.......I honestly dont think that you can call a dog for what he is, just because he (sits back and watches) or (barks at everything). Thats just rediculous

[realonebulldog]

I have read this in a lot of places, that a dog who is barking, snarling, growling, and has its hackles raised is a cur and affarid. But the dog who is simpley watching, but will fight, is confident.
I feel this is true, if a dog was truely sure of himself why would he have to go around proveing it to everyone?

I have seen so many people with game dogs that are doing all of the above, are they not confident in themselfs? I think not, i dont care game or not.... hes not confident.

What do you guys think??


(sorry, cant spell) Like in all storys I think there is some trues in it. To be quietly ,and to be just eyes, ears, and nerves....well such a behavior is a good sign for a Bulldog. On the other hand I heard from loud Bulldogs and they were game as hell....some were shy AND game as hell.You can never say its 100% so or 100% so. No doubt its a very good sign if a Bulldog work without making any noise because that simply means he is in full concentration.If he begins later in the work to growl thats a bad sign because he shows with that a lag of concentration. But on the other hand some dogs showed this signs....and worked on for hours! Like I said never 100%.......But there is a reason for that our beloved Bulldogs compared to other kind of dogs are the quiet ones.

[Diesel]

In my experience with dogs the loud ones dont really want to fight. Its the quiet ones that you have to watch out for.
its the same way with people.


I dont know I have seen quitea few dogs, in fact Diesel in particular is a very vocal and aggresive dog, and heis VERY ready to go. he is full throttle straight ahead barking and growling his head off every step of the way. some dogs are quiet and serious, others outspoken and bold. Bluffing is common, but not alwyas the case. some dogs make noise and want to back it up.

[ghost 1]

like the ol sayin ,,,"you gotta watch the quiet ones",,,lol

i've seen them both ways so i would disagree,,, a dogs a dog and being how well its temperment ,, some dogs bark to bark and some don't,,, i've had them both ways,,,i've had one that would kill anything that got close and ones that would look to hide till it got within reach,,,i've had ones that crawl up in the fork of a tamossa tree and sit in the fork,,, when you went to lookin for him you would have to really look or you'd think he wasn't there,,,but i do think bloodlines have something to do with barkin,, because the colby dogs i have has never been barkers,,, none of them,,, to as some of the ones i use to have

[purplepig]

Well if it is true that a dog "who is barking, snarling, growling, and has its hackles raised is a cur and affarid", I gues you'd have to say tha Indian Bolio was a cur huh? He would see another dog and go to screaming to get at the other dog.I have seen many curs that would act th opposite. It all depends upon the dog. If ole Bolio was a cur, I'd love to have a yard full of curs!!

[14rock]

Dont know how much of nothing this means but, I read this in the UKC guidlines...what they except (accept) and disregard (not accepted).....

The American Pit Bull Terrier (Tail)
The true APBT's tail should always erect in a straight format and should never curl up into the air. This is called a ~gay tail~ According to the historical standards, a gay tail is diqualified in UKC. It shows lack of confindence and gameness that the true APBT was bred for generations ago.

I found it quite interesting and just thought I would share with you all!I dont normally take anything the ukc says to heart, but I like this standard. 85-90% of the curs I've seen had the tail curl. I've seen a few game dogs who would also do this, so I can't say all tail-curlers are curs, but its something I dont like to see. Raised hackles is another. Barking doesnt matter to me, I have seen numerous dogs and I dont see much of a trend. I PREFER the dogs that whine and scream, as opposed to barking, but if a good dog barks when it sees another dog, I aint gonna turn him/her down :D LOL.

[Miss Conduct]

Exactly...

Agreed as well. All dogs are different and act differently. I have silent dogs, i have barkers, and i have screamers (oh they are lovely at feeding time!!) haha

Usually other breeds that bark and ruffle their fur, are the barn storming curs. They are tough till they really get bit.

[Miss Conduct]

I have a dog with "gay tail".


I notice when he is inside or messin around with me, its up and curled.

When the other dogs get him excited, it tends to go straight and he gets serious. He is my screamer, and dear lord is he loud. He doesnt bark, he screams.

He is my houdini, and finds his way out of kennels somehow, has slipped his collar, and had an o ring break while on a chain at a friends house.. hes had a few accidents, so i know that hes not just talk.

Anyone have any dogs with the gay tail that does that as well?

[MR BIGGS]

I would say if you haven't seen the dog in action then you never know. A dog will be a dog and do what it wants, but when push comes to shove I don't want no cur. I would say if you believe in those superstitions then maybe a slap in the face will wake you up and let you know that each species has it's own methods of aggression or whatever you want to call it. Dogs in particular pick up habits like us so they may do what they feel is neccessary to go into a fight, Maybe these are ways of telling the other dog they're ready for it bring it.

[PIt4life]

I dont think that most of u have a real clue at what i was asking. I never said anything about a dog that is game doesnt bark, this has nothing to do with APBTs either. It is all breeds in general.
Barking wasnt really the whole thing, what i am baseing this on is a video of two Kangals who were snarling and etc at eachother... i will find it and post it.