The Time Has Come

[Titch_Pitbull]

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Hi all Ive been researching this glorious breed for almost 4 years and now find my self in suffienct knowledge and understanding of the breed to own my own APBT
Ive been looking around a kennels for a while and I wondered if any of you guys could help me out in pointing me in the direction of some good kennels, below are my requirmenets</PRE>

Price Range - 0 - $2'000
Prefable price - 0 - $ 750</PRE>

Important:</PRE>

Must be game bred
Parents both of Stocky type bulit
Neither of the parents should weigh above 65LBS
Must be sutible for weight pull and show
Parents must conform to ADBA standard</PRE>


Not Important (but still preferable)</PRE>

Colour:BuckSkin/Black/Brindle
Bloodline:Alligator/Eli/Jeep/Nigerino
A Ch or Grand Champ in the 5 latest Generation
Puppy Contract
Shipping within the US</PRE>


Things I dont Mind
ORFN Blood</PRE>


Im looking for a puppy although I do not mind if the breeding is planned or is on the ground</PRE>

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Thank You in advance,
Jermaine Malik</PRE>


I also dont mind if its from a site like petfinder or such.</PRE>

[Attila]

Don't go with Pet finder. I don't know of any reputiable breeders that list pups that way. Especially for the quality you desire. Also you sure are willing to go steep on what you pay out. As tempting as that sounds I have to deline. I hope someone lines you out on a kennel and breeder to go with.

[NOVICE]

Ya know I think a well bred Tab dog would fit that criteria nicely. Unfortunately I can't recomend a breeder at the momment. There are a couple of people on this board that might know but I really can't speak for them.

[bahamutt99]

Petfinder is a "virtual shelter" of sorts. So if you're looking for a rescue pup, that's what you'll find there. Good luck in your search.

[cheekymunkee]

Petfinder ONLY lists shelter animals, no breeders are allowed to post pets on that site

[semo]

why would you pay $2k for a dog ?

i would think BYB bigtime if you paid that much

[lov4pits]

arnt pitbulls banned in england?

[purplepig]

I suggest two kennels, although one of them is a different bloodline. I would suggest Tatonka kennels, which is Sorrell blood. And I would also suggest eppinette kennels. They have a little skull, and others, but I would ask about one of the chinaman bred dogs. They are not Frisco, but chinaman. Eppinette will cost you around $4-6 hundred, depending upon the breeding, and the Tatonka should be around $700. With any good breeder, let them know that it is more important to you to get a top dog than it is to get one right now. The people at Tatonka are very helpful and pleasant to deal with. The reason I suggest the Eppinette kennels is that they are breeding chinaman without the Frisco blood. There are some who believe that there is an issue with some of the Frisco bred dogs using the frozen loads. I would not hesitate to go either way. I dont live too far from Eppinettes and have been there several times, Tatonka is in Florida.
Have a good one.

[14rock]

why would you pay $2k for a dog ?

i would think BYB bigtime if you paid that muchNot for a grown dog/prospect. That is a fair price on an older dog someone has taken the time to work with and raise and deemed suitable. Sure beats buying 4 pups for $500 a pop, and having no idea for 2 years what they will turn out to be, and not knowing even then until you've got thousands in food, meds, and attention wrapped up into a dog who just wont make the cut. If you have the opportunity to buy a good, grown dog, that all the guesswork has been taken out of, I'd much rather go that route than buying and waiting only to find out that its not up to your standards.

[14rock]

Eppinette is selling out most of his stock, and limiting his breedings to only a select few a year, or so he has said. If you want something now, contact him immediately.

[purplepig]

Eppinette is selling out most of his stock, and limiting his breedings to only a select few a year, or so he has said. If you want something now, contact him immediately.
When he said "most of his stock" you must realize how much stock he had!! He is still keeping about 36 dogs on his yard.

[miakoda]

arnt pitbulls banned in england?

They are.

Just curious, how are you going to get around the ban? And don't you feel you would be putting this dog at risk to be needlessly killed by the RSPCA?

[pitbull 1981]

Iam from the uk i dont know why someone will ask a american site for prices or bredders on PITBULL how would you get ur dog in uk ...

there are many Knobs in the uk breding Bandogs get one of them as there dont come under BSL

[Attila]

He mentioned shipping it with in the united states. Not to the UK however getting a dog into the UK is pretty dang easy. Actually any country that borders water is easy. Especially the United States. Any country really is easy.

[pitbull 1981]

u can via irland use ikc but ur arse will be hung lol
bls aru n so will find you
aru(swat)

[WWII]

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Price Range - 0 - $2'000 (Would only pay that much for a prospect)


Prefable price - 0 - $ 750

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Important:

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Must be game bred
Parents both of Stocky type bulit (Although some can be stocky, the average bulldog is gonna be athletically built and lean, especially when dealing with the gamedogs)
Neither of the parents should weigh above 65LBS
Must be sutible for weight pull and show


Parents must conform to ADBA standard

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Not Important (but still preferable)

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Colour:BuckSkin/Black/Brindle
Bloodline:Alligator/Eli/Jeep/Nigerino (Why these particular bloodlines?)
A Ch or Grand Champ in the 5 latest Generation (Some people don't put titles on the ped, and I think I heard it's illegal to do so now???)
Puppy Contract


Shipping within the US

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Things I dont Mind


ORFN Blood (It's only the best, when you can find it):D

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Im looking for a puppy although I do not mind if the breeding is planned or is on the ground (Don't turn down a good prospect just to get a puppy)

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Thank You in advance,


Jermaine Malik

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I also dont mind if its from a site like petfinder or such.

</PRE>I went through and put my opinions in bold.

[Attila]

u can via irland use ikc but ur arse will be hung lol
bls aru n so will find you
aru(swat)
ah all it takes is money and the right equipement. Nothing but a thing. It only takes a small crew to take down big operations getting a dog in would be much easier than that.

[Sid Finster]

I am not an English lawyer, but from what I know of the laws there, if a dog looks like an APBT or other banned breed of dog, the police can seize it as a banned dog, regardless of what the registration papers say.

In other words, a phoney registration will not necessarily save your dog. Of course, England has no shortage of pitbulls, most as carelessly bred and raised as in the US.

As an aside, I have no idea what Pitbull 1981 exactly means by "stocky" or why he considers this a desirable thing.

[MR BIGGS]

I was kinda wondering also why he would be concerned with color and size. I could understand age preference. If you have been studying game dogs for 4yrs then you would be basing your decision off of bloodline and breeder(IMO). Those would be how would choose my dog, hell that's what I'm looking for now. I'm looking at different bloodlines and taking into consideration what the breeders purpose is and what he has been doing with his/her dogs. But hey that's just me

[stlcardfan19]

um he wants the parents under 65 pounds because it fits the breed standard! Also he said prefered. There is nothing wrong with desiring a certain color it is just bad when you breed for it. Also he is willing to pay high dollar so obviously he wants the best dog he can get.

[MR BIGGS]

The best dog doesn't cost the most, that's just the breeder trying to get rich quick, but I could agree on the color preference, just not something I would look for.
um he wants the parents under 65 pounds because it fits the breed standard! Also he said prefered. There is nothing wrong with desiring a certain color it is just bad when you breed for it. Also he is willing to pay high dollar so obviously he wants the best dog he can get.

[Suki]

He mentioned shipping it with in the united states. Not to the UK however getting a dog into the UK is pretty dang easy. Actually any country that borders water is easy. Especially the United States. Any country really is easy.
I agree that while getting the dog into the country may be easy, "hiding" it, in a country that does not allow it is going to be the tough part.
Not fair to that animal, IMO.
just a thought...

[miakoda]

I agree that while getting the dog into the country may be easy, "hiding" it, in a country that does not allow it is going to be the tough part.
Not fair to that animal, IMO.
just a thought...
I agree. And the way to fight bans is not to hide dogs in the town only to be tomorrow's headline when the dog is found out & then euthanized while the owner is depicted as a lying criminal. We don't need that kind of publicity.

However, if the o.p. is staying in the states or in a place with no-BSL, then good luck with the search.

[Aceman]

They are.

Just curious, how are you going to get around the ban? And don't you feel you would be putting this dog at risk to be needlessly killed by the RSPCA?
A bud of mine vacationed there this summer and said there are pitbulls everywhere. How the hell are they doing it???lol.

[miakoda]

by labeling them as SBTs or doing it illegally. I never said there weren't any over there, just that they are banned & I do know that they are just as busy busting people who violate the ban & are euthanizing the dogs. IMO, getting a SBT or move.



A bud of mine vacationed there this summer and said there are pitbulls everywhere. How the hell are they doing it???lol.

[Titch_Pitbull]

Notice that I marked the colour bloodline as NOT IMPORTANT but PREFERABLE

Sorry I didnt tell everyone but Im moving to Permenatly to Atlanta in 6 Weeks
so no worries about breed bans :)

Thanks with your help more would be much appreicated


Im looking for slightly stocky Since I think thats A better built for Weight pull

[Titch_Pitbull]

Bump


Thanks

[Titch_Pitbull]

Bump


Thanks
Common guys I still dont have anything remotly like a shortlist and I must have seen atleast 200 kennels in the past 8 days

[jasong]

I don't think they are asking for a match dog. I think they just want a well bred dog. If your not going to match the dog then it doesn't matter if they are proven or not. They seem to just want a dog to love and if that is the case they it don't matter if they get a put or a grown cur (as long as they don't breed the dog).