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purplepig
08-20-2006, 11:49 PM
With all the hype and debate over these bully breeds, I am gona buy a well bred one, or two, and see what they are made of. I'll post back when the results are in. Anyone else done this? Figure I'll get one of them Gotti dogs, and one of them RE and see how they work out.

J




miakoda
08-21-2006, 01:04 PM
With all the hype and debate over these bully breeds, I am gona buy a well bred one, or two, and see what they are made of. I'll post back when the results are in. Anyone else done this? Figure I'll get one of them Gotti dogs, and one of them RE and see how they work out.

J
LOL. Since soooo many people claim they are used for catch dogs, when you get them call me up & we'll go hunting together. I'll bring the stable gun & sutures, your bring the gun.:D

SAM_I_AM
08-21-2006, 01:17 PM
With all the hype and debate over these bully breeds, I am gona buy a well bred one, or two, and see what they are made of. I'll post back when the results are in. Anyone else done this? Figure I'll get one of them Gotti dogs, and one of them RE and see how they work out.

JSound like a good experiment..if you have the time and money... you know how they charge for one of the topline RE and Gotti....

purplepig
08-21-2006, 01:23 PM
Well, I went and did it. I got two females. One is 8weeks old, and the other is 20 months old. The little girl is a blue brindle, she is Greyline/barajas "Juan Gotti"/razors edge on top, and she is barajas "Juan Gotti"/Greyline/TopGun on bottom, with alittle Hemphill also.

The older female is Gotti/greyline/topgun. The older female still is not no 90# dog. I wasnt willing to pay $4000 for a 90# dog. They were not as well bred as these two were anyway. I wanted to get allot of the bloodline that is in controversy. Anyway, the female weighs 54#. She is about 15" tall, and has a 22" head. The fella I got her from said that one of his other girls was running around loose and got alittle too close to her and within' a minute she had the other dogs head opened up. He said. I do know she works the spring pole very well. She hasnt(so far) shown any aggression towards me. She does have the barrel look, allittle, but I will be working that off of her. Will post pictures later. This will be interesting.

J

bahamutt99
08-21-2006, 04:31 PM
Interesting idea. Keep us posted. Just curious, what are you going to do with them if they do actually turn out?

purplepig
08-21-2006, 04:52 PM
Interesting idea. Keep us posted. Just curious, what are you going to do with them if they do actually turn out?
Well, if they turn out, I definately wont cull them. I'll see what else is in them genetically over time. That would be the only way to tell if they were a fluke or not.

J

PIt4life
08-21-2006, 05:03 PM
I wanted to do the same thing, u have to keep ur updated!

jeeperino
08-21-2006, 05:28 PM
Isnt saying a well bred RE dog or Gotti dog an oxymoron??????? Look in the back of a dog world mag and that is ALL YOU SEE. Not even OFRN dogs anymore. Its a shame.

miakoda
08-21-2006, 11:42 PM
Isnt saying a well bred RE dog or Gotti dog an oxymoron???????
L M A O .

purplepig
08-22-2006, 12:42 AM
Isnt saying a well bred RE dog or Gotti dog an oxymoron??????? Look in the back of a dog world mag and that is ALL YOU SEE. Not even OFRN dogs anymore. Its a shame.
Well, I reckon your right!! What I meant by that was that in my search for one, the mojority of the people have a "Razor's Edge" dog that has one or two razor's edge dog's in a 6 generation pedigree.

I think allot of the folks on them web sites are taking photos and stretching them to make them look so big. What ya think? I still have not had my eyes upon a 90# bulldog.

Attila
08-22-2006, 12:57 AM
I really thought you were pulling our leg. So you really did get two of them? That is wild. So lets see these photo's. I got to drive down and see this with my own eyeses. Well If you get hungry because of the feed bill I will buy that little black pup off ya in your signature. Ya know I like her. Maybe you can through some game into those dogs later.

purplepig
08-22-2006, 01:10 AM
I really thought you were pulling our leg. So you really did get two of them? That is wild. So lets see these photo's. I got to drive down and see this with my own eyeses. Well If you get hungry because of the feed bill I will buy that little black pup off ya in your signature. Ya know I like her. Maybe you can through some game into those dogs later.
Here's a picture of them. They aint no #90 dogs, but they are Gotti/RE/Monster G. Let's just call it my little experiment. LOL
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5293/babygirlandtimc9.jpg

purplepig
08-22-2006, 01:14 AM
Attila, BTW, I went out this afternoon and walked one of my females(the one with the collar problem) to her chain spot, she'd been out playing with the pups, and when I got her to her spot, she walked over to her bucket of water (25 gallon), and first one paw, then two, the next thing I know she's in the water, moaning, and every once in a while ducking her head under to get cooled off!!! ROFLMBO!! I have never seen her do this, and I she did it after I seen that little boy of yours doin the bucket seat thing!!HA HA.

Attila
08-22-2006, 02:28 AM
Attila, BTW, I went out this afternoon and walked one of my females(the one with the collar problem) to her chain spot, she'd been out playing with the pups, and when I got her to her spot, she walked over to her bucket of water (25 gallon), and first one paw, then two, the next thing I know she's in the water, moaning, and every once in a while ducking her head under to get cooled off!!! ROFLMBO!! I have never seen her do this, and I she did it after I seen that little boy of yours doin the bucket seat thing!!HA HA.
Lol that is funny. Two smart dogs. I reckon it is hot. 25 gallon. Now that is a big ass bucket lol. I think that one is a 3 gallon bucket. I have a 110 gallon water tough but it is empty right now. I had the pups in the house in it till the second set of shots now they are out in the kennel. Your brindle pup is cute. The larger dog is meaty lol. Have to get her on the spring pole and walk the shit out of her for a while. Don't worry I need to do some walking too. I think I am going to get a mill. I just don't know from what supplier yet. I had a human one but it was a pain to use. I hated it too. The creek is too full of cotton mouths and water moccasins to play in. I usually go out at night with the boat and shot gun but the drought had it very shallow. It rained all day here today for the first time in a long time but it didn't change the level any. We need about two strait weeks of it.

anyway the larger dogs head looks normal for the most part loosing some body fat will set her up good. She isn't very tall so you may be able to turn her out into something. The pup is still young to tell about yet. I like the color blue. It would be neat to get one that was normal in conformation. I have only seen a handfull of those in the last few decades. Gotti and razor uses American bull dogs right? I never really followed them. I just always avoided anything to do with them not that I didn't like the dogs any or the looks. I didn't know that they were supposed to be APBT till a few years ago and I was like do what! Nah can't be. It will be interesting to see the adult temperments of your two science projects. lol I never even thought about buying one. Keep us up to date. If they don't get that bull dog look then it would be cool to see.

purplepig
08-22-2006, 02:38 AM
Lol that is funny. Two smart dogs. I reckon it is hot. 25 gallon. Now that is a big ass bucket lol. I think that one is a 3 gallon bucket. I have a 110 gallon water tough but it is empty right now. I had the pups in the house in it till the second set of shots now they are out in the kennel. Your brindle pup is cute. The larger dog is meaty lol. Have to get her on the spring pole and walk the shit out of her for a while. Don't worry I need to do some walking too. I think I am going to get a mill. I just don't know from what supplier yet. I had a human one but it was a pain to use. I hated it too. The creek is too full of cotton mouths and water moccasins to play in. I usually go out at night with the boat and shot gun but the drought had it very shallow. It rained all day here today for the first time in a long time but it didn't change the level any. We need about two strait weeks of it.

anyway the larger dogs head looks normal for the most part loosing some body fat will set her up good. She isn't very tall so you may be able to turn her out into something. The pup is still young to tell about yet. I like the color blue. It would be neat to get one that was normal in conformation. I have only seen a handfull of those in the last few decades. Gotti and razor uses American bull dogs right? I never really followed them. I just always avoided anything to do with them not that I didn't like the dogs any or the looks. I didn't know that they were supposed to be APBT till a few years ago and I was like do what! Nah can't be. It will be interesting to see the adult temperments of your two science projects. lol I never even thought about buying one. Keep us up to date. If they don't get that bull dog look then it would be cool to see.
PM me your email addy and I'll send you a photo of the pedigree.

purplepig
08-26-2006, 11:28 PM
Well, here we are, after alittle bit of time and here's the update. Baby Girl is working pretty hard, I push her, but not to the point of danger. She loves the spring pole and has a very hard mouth. She was alittle overweight when I got her. That with the summer heat makes me wean her into it, but she is still willing to give. She desires to please, and loves affection. She is not overly aggressive towards dogs on the yard, but hasnt let another dog become dominant over her. When confronted with another female she was ready, but still aware of me, which I do like. Will be a good while before she is tested with live hogs. She is very sweet towards me, enough so that I have allowed my two girls to play with her alittle, very suppervised of course. Havenet tried her in the back yard yet, she has been on the chain, and she works that very well. So much so that I check the hardware every day. She eats well, and healthwise is in very good condition. The "barrel look she had when she got here is beginning to fade, of which I am pleased.

The pup is... doing great. I have a fenced in area that I keep my younger ones in. In the course of things she has stood her ground, yet has fit into the pack well. She is very affectionate, and also noticably gentle towards people. She will be a jumper and a climber so it is a matter of time before she will be living on the chain. So far, so good. As to preportion, she looks in to me. Time will tell. She doent have the "barrel look yet either. I have seen pups of like bloodline on the net that did have this look so I am wondering if it is the supplements that these people are pushing.

I have taken Baby Girl up town once. I had to put a tube in the tire of a lawn mower and thought she could use the ride. At the tire place a guy came up to me and said,"I see you got one of my pups"
I said, "No sir, I dont."
"That aint one of my dogs you got from me?"
"No sir."
"I'll bet you got it around here somewhere didnt you?"
"No sir. That dog didnt come from anywhere around here."
"It didnt. She looks just like my male."
Up to the last statement he was smiling. He went on to tell me how his dog was a Colby/Wallace dog, and weighed ...get this, 118#!!!(Baby Girl is about 54#) He came back in (apparently he worked there) and asked me when she was coming into heat. I told him, and then he asked what her bloodline was. I told him, he had never heard of it. Then, you know what the next thing was..you guessed it,"We need to hook them two together!". I said, "I dont believe that I want to breed my dog to a 118# bulldog, but I would sure like to just put my eyes on one. I have never seen a pitbulll that big." He told me to come by anytime and he'd show him to me.
Now, either this guy has no idea how big a 118# dog is(he said my female looked just like his male, maybe he meant color, I dont know), or ... well, I just want to see a dog that big. He said something about it having a 28" head or something. Anyway, I see that folks (Not everyone of course) who buy these dogs are thinking that all they need to do is breed them to another blue,no matter temperment, health, attitude, intellegence...just like most here have said. Of course, allot of folks with pitbulls period are like this.

So as I said I will keep you posted.

Riptora
08-26-2006, 11:46 PM
This is really interesting! I am eager to hear what happens!

One of my first jobs was in a boarding kennel and there was a dog there that was claimed to be an APBT who easily weighed 90lbs. He was not blue, he was very red with a white stripe and white socks. He lookeds very much like a pit bull, his head was more square than normal he was proportioned very well. I still can't think of what he was mixed with. He didn't look Am blulldogish at all. He was one of those dogs that started my interest in bully breeds. He was so goofy and handsome. Messy as hell though.

Big Game
08-27-2006, 12:39 AM
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=5500&c=3&userid=3226 Did the red dog with white socks look like this one? yo purple You never seen a 90 pound pitbull? here you go. Now are there hung papers somewhare in his background? most likely but isent that true with any 100 pound pitbull. I think youre experament is cool. Keep us poasted. If eather one turns out it will shock the hell out of some people. Good dogs are whare you find them.......Right?

purplepig
08-27-2006, 01:00 AM
Yea, I gotcha, "Big Game"! Pictures just dont do the trick. One fella here emailed me a pic of a 100#er and had the dog's head in his lap, blew my mind!! I can see where a taller dog would have more weight. The way the guy talked his bulldog was the same tallness of the female, which is alittle over 15"; 118#! I tell ya what though, I'd like to be at that water about now!! Better yet, it'd be nice to have a place on the side of a mountain with some little creeks flowing through. I'd set the dogs up to where they could drink water from them, I am kinda lazy like that. I used to not be so lazy, but I am more of a bluff than the two project dogs!! LOL yea, I am interested in how they turn out. It will suprise me also. I just dont like to condemn something before I investigate them. I do believe in staying within the breed standards though. The pup has the RE in her so I have no idea how large she will get. She looks normal to me now. She wont be a 32#er, but maybe the same as Baby Girl. I got alittle male over here that'll go probably 32# when grown, he and the little girl got into it the other day and drew blood on each other. I had to seperate them as a result. That little male grabbed her head and she went into the front shoulder, this young! her mouth was bleeding alittle, and his chest was bleeding, and they weren't on each other very long before I got em seperated. I have seem allot of pups sparing, playing, like all dogs do, but these little boogers were drawing blood!! I haven't seen this very often, and never seen one that young make a chest bleed like that.
If they did turn out, just speaking if it was back in the day, I have a feeling that it would take one like "Rocky Balboa" to test it.
Oh well, at this point I aint ready to cull 'em. And as some know I am tight with my money. I mean, I dont see no reason...wait, I wont start that back up HA HA>

misterdogman
08-27-2006, 01:39 AM
Here's a picture of them. They aint no #90 dogs, but they are Gotti/RE/Monster G. Let's just call it my little experiment. LOL
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5293/babygirlandtimc9.jpgNo way you got those pictures off of Yahoo images, I can tell you Photoshopped it all together, I have an eye for Photoshopped photos ask anyone. I cant see you wasting your time on these dogs from what I have heard you talking about so far youd know its a waste of time and not even necessary. The time your going to waste on these alleged dogs is time you could be working and teaching and schooling a game bred dog to do the same work and when a game dog did turn out youd know it wasnt just a fluke. They aint going to turn out to be nothing but big and blue. We all know that. This is ridiculous, how much did you pay for these mutts? Is this just your way of getting your dream Blue Mutts and hiding the fact your a Blue Mutt lover. Come on Purplepig say it aint so, please say it aint so. Did you really do this or are you just pulling some legs? What are you going to do to see what they are made of? Hog hunt? Agility? Weight Pull? Because we all know doing anything else you do to them to see what they are made of isnt fair and I for one dont need to wait to see any results I already know what would happen if you know what I mean. They aint game dog toys you know, so you cant prove nothing really otherwise. This is not a good comparison or test or even a good idea. Why do you need proof to see they are not useful for anything but pets, pics and high sell prices and ego show off BS to look tough. All your going to have is 2 blue "Pets" that eat more than 3 good game dogs you could have got and done something with. I cant believe it.

purplepig
08-27-2006, 10:02 AM
For one thing brother, the way they will be tested is not for a forum discussion, that is a private matter, as to the food, I will not feed them anymore than anything else, 13oz a day, for third, I dont want to just spout my mouth off about anything from witches to bluffs without first hand knowledge. This still will not prove anything about the 100# dogs, as these wont be but half that size. For 5th , I gotta go and write later, about late for church, and that aint good for the preacher!1HA HA later

Whiskey Bay
08-27-2006, 10:15 PM
Here is one of my new guys.He wil never take the place of BooBoo,but he has the heart and game to go.Any guesses?

Riptora
08-27-2006, 10:56 PM
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=5500&c=3&userid=3226 Did the red dog with white socks look like this one? yo purple You never seen a 90 pound pitbull? here you go. Now are there hung papers somewhare in his background? most likely but isent that true with any 100 pound pitbull. I think youre experament is cool. Keep us poasted. If eather one turns out it will shock the hell out of some people. Good dogs are whare you find them.......Right?Is there a head on shot of that dog? Is he about 90 lbs.? If so, they are probably very close.

Big Game
08-28-2006, 04:02 PM
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=5727&c=3&userid=3226 http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=5726&c=3&userid=3226 http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=5728&c=3&userid=3226 Here ara some pictures from the front. Yes he is right around 90 pounds. He is only 12 months in these pictures. He is alot more cut up , has alot more muscle and a nice tuck now. He's no gamedog but the boy has Drive Drive Drive. Not a trueblue pitbull, but a vary impressive dog all the same.

Riptora
08-28-2006, 04:47 PM
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=5727&c=3&userid=3226 http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=5726&c=3&userid=3226 http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=5728&c=3&userid=3226 Here ara some pictures from the front. Yes he is right around 90 pounds. He is only 12 months in these pictures. He is alot more cut up , has alot more muscle and a nice tuck now. He's no gamedog but the boy has Drive Drive Drive. Not a trueblue pitbull, but a vary impressive dog all the same.Yep, I'de have to say he looks quite a bit like the dog I was describing.