If I can only get one which one????

[builtmorepits]

I don't have a male on my yard and I'm about to get one. Its down to two dogs that are the same price.

If you had to choose which one do you think has the best pedigree and why.

Thanks for all opinions.

Thor
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=178923

or

Brew
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=188402

[CB]

I don't have a male on my yard and I'm about to get one. Its down to two dogs that are the same price.

If you had to choose which one do you think has the best pedigree and why.

Thanks for all opinions.

Thor
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=178923

or

Brew
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=188402Thats a Easy one i would take Brew. Double bred of Ch gambler. I like that alot.

[debodebo]

I would also take Brew.

[Evil_Elvis]

yes.. I would also go with Brew... not that thor is bad ..but without mentioning names in the ped of Thor there has been some dogs with "questionable" pedigrees put out by a breeder in his ped


Brew is a fine looking dog but a picture only tells so much. you must look at what you plan to accomplish with the dog, does the dog itself fit your needs, goals, attitude, your lifestyle, your commitment (some dogs personalities, drives, etc may not be what your looking for) I can speak from personal experience in handling dogs from brew's bloodlines and they are ALOT of dog but imo out of the two dogs simply the dog i would choose based on looks, ped and experience with the line.

[findrodhere]

go with brew

[purplepig]

I don't have a male on my yard and I'm about to get one. Its down to two dogs that are the same price.

If you had to choose which one do you think has the best pedigree and why.

Thanks for all opinions.

Thor
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=178923

or

Brew
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=188402

Hands down, Brew. He should be alot of dog, just be ready to handle him. If you want a more laid back easy to handle dog, go with Thor. I believe you have a much greater chance of Brew bding game, and you'd have a better chance with Thor in a conformation ring.
Just MHO
J

[Saiyagin]

It all depends what your looking for in a dog or what you are gonna use the dog for??? If you just going on pedigree then the brew dog is bred tighter becasue of a brother sister breeding that is already double bred on ch.gambler in which it might throw more consistant traits then Thor becasue of his pedigree is so scatter bred. But in my preference I would take Thor because he would be in my opinion the better performer from all the Eli blood in his ped. but it all depends on what you have in mind in your breeding program.

[Riptora]

It all depends what your looking for in a dog or what you are gonna use the dog for??? If you just going on pedigree then the brew dog is bred tighter becasue of a brother sister breeding that is already double bred on ch.gambler in which it might throw more consistant traits then Thor becasue of his pedigree is so scatter bred. But in my preference I would take Thor because he would be in my opinion the better performer from all the Eli blood in his ped. but it all depends on what you have in mind in your breeding program.
I agree, pick whats right for YOU. I like Brew, but the peds a little close for comfort. I would go with whatever you have planned and what might improve off of the females you already have.

[runt]

I doubt that thor is a better performer,the red devil blood thats in brews peds. is the truth:D It all depends what your looking for in a dog or what you are gonna use the dog for??? If you just going on pedigree then the brew dog is bred tighter becasue of a brother sister breeding that is already double bred on ch.gambler in which it might throw more consistant traits then Thor becasue of his pedigree is so scatter bred. But in my preference I would take Thor because he would be in my opinion the better performer from all the Eli blood in his ped. but it all depends on what you have in mind in your breeding program.

[misterdogman]

I don't have a male on my yard and I'm about to get one. Its down to two dogs that are the same price.

If you had to choose which one do you think has the best pedigree and why.

Thanks for all opinions.

Thor
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=178923

or

Brew
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=188402Yeah im on the Brew train too...but how is your bitch bred?

[simms]

Personaly, niether one of these dogs based on peds alone....LOL.What you have to think about is.....are any one of the 2 choices gonna compliment your program?

I dont think you know......

If they did you wouldnt be asking the question, you would already have made a clear decsision between the 2 dogs. Are your females bred simular to the 2 choices that you have narrowed it down to? Would they compliment each other?

The only reason I can see that you asking is for this purpose ...breeding....so my advice to you is figure out what the hell your doin before you buy either one of these dogs.

If you plan on working one of these dogs good luck to ya...

If you plan on breeding, your gonna need all the luck you can get.

[misterdogman]

Personaly, niether one of these dogs based on peds alone....LOL.What you have to think about is.....are any one of the 2 choices gonna compliment your program?

I dont think you know......

If they did you wouldnt be asking the question, you would already have made a clear decsision between the 2 dogs. Are your females bred simular to the 2 choices that you have narrowed it down to? Would they compliment each other?

The only reason I can see that you asking is for this purpose ...breeding....so my advice to you is figure out what the hell your doin before you buy either one of these dogs.

If you plan on working one of these dogs good luck to ya...

If you plan on breeding, your gonna need all the luck you can get.Yeah well some decisions have to come later and its kinda hard for him to look to see which dog will compliment this or that when he dont have both for a period of time...We have all been there and had a choice to make and when it came down to it we made the best choice that we could at the moment. I think that is this mans prediciment, I dont think he needs analysis of his breeding program and a wish of luck to hope it compliments what he has "if " he breeds...I gathered he was asking based on breeding and Ancestor quality... Pedigree facts included at the time of picking one dog or another out help one choose the better dog in most cases. Correct me if I am wrong but most of the time you have to make up your mind before you know all the variables...

[simms]

Yeah well some decisions have to come later and its kinda hard for him to look to see which dog will compliment this or that when he dont have both for a period of time...We have all been there and had a choice to make and when it came down to it we made the best choice that we could at the moment. I think that is this mans prediciment, I dont think he needs analysis of his breeding program and a wish of luck to hope it compliments what he has "if " he breeds...I gathered he was asking based on breeding and Ancestor quality... Pedigree facts included at the time of picking one dog or another out help one choose the better dog in most cases. Correct me if I am wrong but most of the time you have to make up your mind before you know all the variables...
Yeah,well I guess ppl got to start somewhere.....

[scratchin dog]

Brew.................

[Evil_Elvis]

It all depends what your looking for in a dog or what you are gonna use the dog for??? If you just going on pedigree then the brew dog is bred tighter becasue of a brother sister breeding that is already double bred on ch.gambler in which it might throw more consistant traits then Thor becasue of his pedigree is so scatter bred. But in my preference I would take Thor because he would be in my opinion the better performer from all the Eli blood in his ped. but it all depends on what you have in mind in your breeding program.

based on what you said your still going by peds so how would you know???

[realonebulldog]

I don't have a male on my yard and I'm about to get one. Its down to two dogs that are the same price.

If you had to choose which one do you think has the best pedigree and why.

Thanks for all opinions.

Thor
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=178923

or

Brew
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=188402 Would choose Brew....Heard nothing but good things from Iron Mike. He is one of this Bulldogger who know how to produce Real ones. But both dogs look good.....like I said before the base of Brew looks trustworthy.

[NORTH]

Pearsonally im a big fan of the gambler to lelu breeding. I have had and do have some off a son of that breeding to my crypto bitch. And we have another bitch right off gambler and 90% percent were good ruff game dogs, the only ones that havent turened out so far, ones cold, and ones toes froze off as a puppy and wont be worked,but has been looked at and did well. overall i like the stuff off gambler alot. if you decide not to buy the dog PM me.I don't have a male on my yard and I'm about to get one. Its down to two dogs that are the same price.

If you had to choose which one do you think has the best pedigree and why.

Thanks for all opinions.

Thor
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=178923

or

Brew
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=188402

[NORTH]

Pearsonally im a big fan of the gambler to lelu breeding. I have had and do have some off a son of that breeding to my crypto bitch. And we have another bitch right off gambler and 90% percent were good ruff game dogs, the only ones that havent turened out so far, ones cold, and ones toes froze off as a puppy and wont be worked,but has been looked at and did well. overall i like the stuff off gambler alot. if you decide not to buy the dog PM me.Who's the owner of this dog?

[Quitugua]

I'd go with "Brew". His ped looks straight, unlike "Thor"s. "Thor"s looks scattered, & usually it's just damn tough knowing which bloodline is clicking when you deal with a scattered bred....

[Saiyagin]

based on what you said your still going by peds so how would you know??? Actually we will never know as there is only one way to know the truth as the peds dont make the dog what he is but certain lines throw certain traits which (Thor) he has some Boyles/Andycapp and Hagroves Crock which throw some really heavy mouth dogs with good abilitys and also because he is scatter bred as a scatter bred dog usually will be the better performer then an inbred dog which could be more for brood but there is always an exception to every rule and nothing is written in stone except for the 10 commandments lol lol....

[Evil_Elvis]

Pearsonally im a big fan of the gambler to lelu breeding. if you decide not to buy the dog PM me.
lol STAND IN LINE North lol.. I have 1 grandson of Gambler plus another gson and gdaughter on the way lol..

[FearlessKnight]

I agree, pick whats right for YOU. I like Brew, but the peds a little close for comfort. I would go with whatever you have planned and what might improve off of the females you already have.
I agree....it is too close for comfort to me. I like tightly bred, but not like this...JMO

[14rock]

What blood are your gyps?

[misterdogman]

I agree....it is too close for comfort to me. I like tightly bred, but not like this...JMOWell a real old wise dogman once told me the more inbred a dog is the more crosses you can make that will work...real inbred dogs produce well with almost anything...and a lot of the genes in the Inbred dog will be dominant in the pups while most of the undesirable traits will match with the moms same gene and be recessive...so I dont think its too tight...and inbred dogs like that might show bad signs compared to a well crossed Gamedog but if you breed it by crossing with other blood that sucka amaze you with what it produces...I heard a story once in Croatia about these 2 guys ...one had a super inbred Jeep dog and the other had a way way over inbred Snooty dog and they were both cold dogs and had no real drive to fight or even do anything...both house dogs...well they had a litter of 9 puppies and only 1 wasnt game and all the rest are 1 or 2 time winners and 3 are CHs...so genetics are strange but with that dog mentioned it could be a lot more tight...and id rather have a tight dog rather than a scatterbred dog....lol... anyway im done rambling..

[Big Rod]

I would go with Brew too, but im prabably just biased. Wonder why :D ...but yeah, speaking from personal experience, i would definitly go with Brew. Just my 2 cents. ;)

[realonebulldog]

Well a real old wise dogman once told me the more inbred a dog is the more crosses you can make that will work...real inbred dogs produce well with almost anything...and a lot of the genes in the Inbred dog will be dominant in the pups while most of the undesirable traits will match with the moms same gene and be recessive...so I dont think its too tight...and inbred dogs like that might show bad signs compared to a well crossed Gamedog but if you breed it by crossing with other blood that sucka amaze you with what it produces...I heard a story once in Croatia about these 2 guys ...one had a super inbred Jeep dog and the other had a way way over inbred Snooty dog and they were both cold dogs and had no real drive to fight or even do anything...both house dogs...well they had a litter of 9 puppies and only 1 wasnt game and all the rest are 1 or 2 time winners and 3 are CHs...so genetics are strange but with that dog mentioned it could be a lot more tight...and id rather have a tight dog rather than a scatterbred dog....lol... anyway im done rambling.. Thats a story I would believe.....

[Evil_Elvis]

I heard some interesting news yesterday .. I would simply double check Brew's pedigree just to make sure..