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Shon
04-16-2004, 06:55 PM
By David J. Lee
Odessa American

Ending a long feud between the postal service and a pit bull, a municipal court judge on Thursday ordered the dog?s owners to comply with certain regulations by Monday or the dog will be destroyed.
Lucy was declared a ?dangerous dog? on March 9 after a Feb. 6 complaint from postal carrier Lorenzo Marruffo.
While owners Rhonda Smith and Don Benham maintain the dog has never hurt anyone and is not vicious, Judge Denn Whalen said the March 9 declaration already ruled the dog vicious, and the purpose of the hearing was to determine if the dog should be put to sleep.
?She?s a house dog ? we keep her in the house,? Smith said. ?She doesn?t get out that often.?
Animal control officer Randy Carden testified that in a year-long period, animal control had received at least eight calls about Lucy being out, three of which came from the postal service.
?I honestly think she would get out and kill somebody,? Carden told the judge. ?She?s a beautiful dog, but I?m afraid she?ll hurt someone.?
The hearing stemmed from an incident Feb. 6 when Marruffo said Lucy charged at him and placed him in fear of bodily injury.
?I?m always careful in that area,? Marruffo said, adding that he?d had several frightening but non-violent encounters with Lucy before.
?I was walking between 809 and 807, and I was watching carefully for the dog,? he continued. ?I saw her about 10 feet away, and she saw me, too. She took off at me at full gallop. I grabbed my dog spray. It didn?t help. I nearly emptied the whole can. Then Ms. Smith walked out and called the dog. It ran back into the house.?
Smith said she didn?t believe Marruffo was ever in danger.
?She didn?t get within six feet of him,? Smith said. ?I yelled, ?Lucy,? and she stopped and came back in the house.?
Marruffo said if Smith hadn?t called the dog off, he believes he would have been seriously injured.
Carden said he personally believed the dog was dangerous as well.
?We don?t let the victims determine if a dog is vicious,? he said. ?What we?ve seen out there, and from the sworn statements we received, we believe the dog is dangerous.?
Carden said when he went to the house April 8, Lucy tried to charge at him and another animal control officer but changed her mind when Carden and his partner pulled out big sticks.
?She came at us, and it was unprovoked,? he said. ?She saw the sticks, and she took off.?
Smith said when she came out the dog was under the house.
?How can she be vicious, when she?s hiding under the house?? Smith asked.
Under a seizure warrant, Carden then took the dog to animal control, where she?s been ever since.
Benham and Smith, roommates, had received three letters warning that their mail would be cut off if the dog wasn?t contained, Marruffo said.
Benham said he got a post office box in October so Marruffo wouldn?t have to come to the house.
Marruffo said, however, that even after the Feb. 6 incident, he saw the dog outside at least two more times at neighboring houses.
After that, the U.S. Postal Service hadn?t been delivering mail to the 800 block of West 23rd Street for the carrier?s safety, Odessa postmaster Ruben Gonzales said.
Brian Gonzales, Odessa USPS customer service supervisor, said the residents of the 800 block of West 23rd Street didn?t get mail for a 30-day period. They began getting their mail at home on April 9.
?The mail service resumed last Friday when the dog was taken by animal control,? Brian Gonzales said. ?It was a great inconvenience to customers, but they understood. They all got notices that they could pick up their mail at the post office.?
According to law, Whalen said, Smith and Benham have to make certain the dog is restrained at all times ? and Benham said he?s already installed a secure fence. They also have take out a $100,000 liability insurance policy on the animal and buy a $30 ?dangerous dog? tag from animal control.
?Definitely (we?ll do it),? Benham said. ?She?s a lapdog. She barks at everyone, but she?s never bitten anyone.?
Brian Gonzales said postal service employees are gratified at the results of the hearing.
?We?re very pleased with the City of Odessa and animal control,? he said. ?They?ve been very professional. And when we call, their response time is very prompt.?
Ruben Gonzales said the prosecution of Smith and Benham was necessary.
?This is a preventive thing to protect the kids on the block, our customers and our carriers,? the postmaster said.




LA_Headhunters
04-17-2004, 11:17 AM
Always something. I think that most people are scared of the "image" not the dog and just want a reason to complain,.

KnOck
04-17-2004, 11:44 AM
Sure is always something. Alot of the bad publicity pitbulls get is because they are in the wrong hands.

Knock 'Em Out
Always something. I think that most people are scared of the "image" not the dog and just want a reason to complain,.

J M A N
04-17-2004, 11:23 PM
People are mostly afraid of the name. I have taken puppies into work before and people would be petting them until they asked what kind of dog is it?

Just Bullsh*t!

LA_Headhunters
04-18-2004, 12:38 PM
It's a DAMN SHAME that we live in a society where people are so judgemental and close-minded.

KnOck
04-18-2004, 02:08 PM
It sure is a damn shame..I got plenty of family photos from over the years that I feel should be published to show how my dogs interact with my kids. Hell I rotate some of them out and let them stay in the house and all they do is play with my kids especiall my 1 1/2 yr old daughter. At night they hop in bed with the kids...lol

Knock 'Em Out

It's a DAMN SHAME that we live in a society where people are so judgemental and close-minded.

SmokeLaiPitbull
04-20-2004, 08:46 AM
It's a DAMN SHAME that we live in a society where people are so judgemental and close-minded. That! should be on a T-shirt.

Icarus
04-20-2004, 10:39 AM
Not too long ago I got in a little trouble in basically the same situation when the electric company walked into my back yard disreguarding the beware of dog and security dog signs. The guy wasted a whole can of pepper spray on my dog because she barked at him. When I heard it and walked out and had seen what he had done I went in and got my pepper spray and gave hima taste of his own medicine. The cops came....I got into trouble... Maybe next time he'll think before acting. It was worth it though. I wouldn't do anything diffrent.

By David J. Lee
Odessa American

Ending a long feud between the postal service and a pit bull, a municipal court judge on Thursday ordered the dog?s owners to comply with certain regulations by Monday or the dog will be destroyed.
Lucy was declared a ?dangerous dog? on March 9 after a Feb. 6 complaint from postal carrier Lorenzo Marruffo.
While owners Rhonda Smith and Don Benham maintain the dog has never hurt anyone and is not vicious, Judge Denn Whalen said the March 9 declaration already ruled the dog vicious, and the purpose of the hearing was to determine if the dog should be put to sleep.
?She?s a house dog ? we keep her in the house,? Smith said. ?She doesn?t get out that often.?
Animal control officer Randy Carden testified that in a year-long period, animal control had received at least eight calls about Lucy being out, three of which came from the postal service.
?I honestly think she would get out and kill somebody,? Carden told the judge. ?She?s a beautiful dog, but I?m afraid she?ll hurt someone.?
The hearing stemmed from an incident Feb. 6 when Marruffo said Lucy charged at him and placed him in fear of bodily injury.
?I?m always careful in that area,? Marruffo said, adding that he?d had several frightening but non-violent encounters with Lucy before.
?I was walking between 809 and 807, and I was watching carefully for the dog,? he continued. ?I saw her about 10 feet away, and she saw me, too. She took off at me at full gallop. I grabbed my dog spray. It didn?t help. I nearly emptied the whole can. Then Ms. Smith walked out and called the dog. It ran back into the house.?
Smith said she didn?t believe Marruffo was ever in danger.
?She didn?t get within six feet of him,? Smith said. ?I yelled, ?Lucy,? and she stopped and came back in the house.?
Marruffo said if Smith hadn?t called the dog off, he believes he would have been seriously injured.
Carden said he personally believed the dog was dangerous as well.
?We don?t let the victims determine if a dog is vicious,? he said. ?What we?ve seen out there, and from the sworn statements we received, we believe the dog is dangerous.?
Carden said when he went to the house April 8, Lucy tried to charge at him and another animal control officer but changed her mind when Carden and his partner pulled out big sticks.
?She came at us, and it was unprovoked,? he said. ?She saw the sticks, and she took off.?
Smith said when she came out the dog was under the house.
?How can she be vicious, when she?s hiding under the house?? Smith asked.
Under a seizure warrant, Carden then took the dog to animal control, where she?s been ever since.
Benham and Smith, roommates, had received three letters warning that their mail would be cut off if the dog wasn?t contained, Marruffo said.
Benham said he got a post office box in October so Marruffo wouldn?t have to come to the house.
Marruffo said, however, that even after the Feb. 6 incident, he saw the dog outside at least two more times at neighboring houses.
After that, the U.S. Postal Service hadn?t been delivering mail to the 800 block of West 23rd Street for the carrier?s safety, Odessa postmaster Ruben Gonzales said.
Brian Gonzales, Odessa USPS customer service supervisor, said the residents of the 800 block of West 23rd Street didn?t get mail for a 30-day period. They began getting their mail at home on April 9.
?The mail service resumed last Friday when the dog was taken by animal control,? Brian Gonzales said. ?It was a great inconvenience to customers, but they understood. They all got notices that they could pick up their mail at the post office.?
According to law, Whalen said, Smith and Benham have to make certain the dog is restrained at all times ? and Benham said he?s already installed a secure fence. They also have take out a $100,000 liability insurance policy on the animal and buy a $30 ?dangerous dog? tag from animal control.
?Definitely (we?ll do it),? Benham said. ?She?s a lapdog. She barks at everyone, but she?s never bitten anyone.?
Brian Gonzales said postal service employees are gratified at the results of the hearing.
?We?re very pleased with the City of Odessa and animal control,? he said. ?They?ve been very professional. And when we call, their response time is very prompt.?
Ruben Gonzales said the prosecution of Smith and Benham was necessary.
?This is a preventive thing to protect the kids on the block, our customers and our carriers,? the postmaster said.

rocksteady
04-20-2004, 01:16 PM
some states are different on their laws.. best thing to have is a fenced in yard with signs "do not open gate or enter ". utility people unfortunetly have certain right of ways.. but never the less, if a dog is confined, hows it going to get to him?

But best thing to do is keep your dog away from situations like that.. keep em kenneled, chained, on a leash or in your house, then things like that wouldn't happen. Mail people usually come around the same time everyday..how hard would it have been for them to not allow the dog out at those times?? I'm not saying the dog was mean or trying to attack, but man! Some people just aren't dog people period..and mail people are the ones who do tend to get bit alot!!

our mail person won't deleiver to any house with a dog running loose and heck, I don't blame her. She isn't saying the dog is vicous or tried to attack ..she's just using her head.

But I got a chuckle..If I had a dime for everytime someone petted my dogs and said how nice, asked the breed then backed away or said "those are the mean ones" I'd be rich!!

Icarus
04-20-2004, 04:22 PM
Yeah, i'm not saying what I did was right but he deserved it. I have told them time and again to call before coming and they did for a while. I do have signs up all over my fence and she was on a chain. That poor dog has been thru so much. She's been stolen and fought, hit by a car by an old man on purpose, he jumped the curb to hit her, he thoght "those dogs" didn't have any purpose and didn't deserve to live. I am having to take her to the vet next week for a leg amputation now that ,thank god, he's paying for. I keep her in the house all the time now. She's 9 yrs old and deserves to be pampered for the rest of her life. I'm glad I still have her she's the best dog I have ever owned. It's sad how people treat those animals and the predjudice against the breed. Between the media and the morons there are a lot of ignorant people out there.some states are different on their laws.. best thing to have is a fenced in yard with signs "do not open gate or enter ". utility people unfortunetly have certain right of ways.. but never the less, if a dog is confined, hows it going to get to him?

But best thing to do is keep your dog away from situations like that.. keep em kenneled, chained, on a leash or in your house, then things like that wouldn't happen. Mail people usually come around the same time everyday..how hard would it have been for them to not allow the dog out at those times?? I'm not saying the dog was mean or trying to attack, but man! Some people just aren't dog people period..and mail people are the ones who do tend to get bit alot!!

our mail person won't deleiver to any house with a dog running loose and heck, I don't blame her. She isn't saying the dog is vicous or tried to attack ..she's just using her head.

But I got a chuckle..If I had a dime for everytime someone petted my dogs and said how nice, asked the breed then backed away or said "those are the mean ones" I'd be rich!!

mizz_tinaz
10-20-2004, 03:43 AM
http://www.petitiononline.com/newban2/petition.html

Sign the petition to keep pitbulls in ontario!...im trying to put this on most threads..im not trying to flood or anything. Oh! and a protest is on
Date: October 23rd at noon
Where: Queen's Park
..more info at http://www.torontohumanesociety.com/inthenews/ban.html