A Tragic Loss In These Dogs

[TabDogs]

TOM AT WESTPENN KENNELS WAS MURDERED YESTERDAY. THIS IS A TRAGIC LOSS IN THIS DOG GAME. TOM WAS ONE OF THE FEW GOOD PEOPLE IN THESE DOGS. HE DID RIGHT BY ALL OF THEM. HE WAS A TRUE DOGMAN AND FREIND. THIS IS SO HARD. MY HEART GOES OUT TO HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN. I HAVE THESE 2 DOGS FROM HIM THAT WILL CARRY ON THIS LEGACY.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=168470
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=65577

[pennsooner]

That is awful news. Condolences to his family.

[mydawgs]

Such a tragedy to lose a loved one this way.....God Bless

[Riptora]

Terrible, my heart goes out to friends and family.

[14rock]

Oh man, what a shock. A great loss to the game indeed, I never met the man, but I have heard only good things about him, and he had some fantastic, game, dogs. My condolences to his family :(

[Envy's Mom]

That is terrible. My condolences go out to all his friends any family. What an awful way to lose a loved one. Wish I could say more to help.

[maryellen1]

my condolences to his family..

[miakoda]

Oh no....... http://www.pitbulltalk.com/images/smiles/sad2.gif (javascript:emoticon(':sad3:'))...........

I'm so sorry. Please send my condolences to his family. He was a good man.

What is wrong with the world today? All these murderers & thieves............it's crazy.

[Attila]

That is sad indeed. Hate to loose such a fine dogman, person and comrad. I pray for his family the heart ache must be harsh. We all carry on a legacy his was good and will be as long as others carry on line. If you call tell her that many are praying for them.

[TabDogs]

Thank you everyone for your kind words. They are very much appreciated by his friends and family. This is a hard time for everyone right now. Keep his family in your prayers. He had 3 children and a wife. Those kids needed their daddy. His wife needed her husband. I could not imagine life with out my man. This kind of tragedy makes you value your family and friends so much more. Tom was a one of a kind man. I wish to god their were more like him in this world. He always wanted to help anyone he could. His dogs got the upmost care and love. This dog game just took a tragic blow. WE miss you Tom!

[Bullyboi]

im sorry to everyone that lost this loved one....its always hard to loose someone

[bakerbt]

To sad. R.I.P.

[Attila]

I read the article how it went down. That was a horrible thing. It is unthinkable how they did that. I pray they catch these punks. I would like to track them myself. I feel so bad for his family. I pray that she can move away from there and can recover along with the children. So young. I just want to send her flowers but they will do no good to fill the empty spot in her heart.

[chrisgr212]

its so sad to leave behind a family.
r.i.p.

[The Watcher]

srry for ur loss.

there is a missprint on "Remix's" ped. says "IM MERORY OF...."

TOM AT WESTPENN KENNELS WAS MURDERED YESTERDAY. THIS IS A TRAGIC LOSS IN THIS DOG GAME. TOM WAS ONE OF THE FEW GOOD PEOPLE IN THESE DOGS. HE DID RIGHT BY ALL OF THEM. HE WAS A TRUE DOGMAN AND FREIND. THIS IS SO HARD. MY HEART GOES OUT TO HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN. I HAVE THESE 2 DOGS FROM HIM THAT WILL CARRY ON THIS LEGACY.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=168470
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=65577

[SAM_I_AM]

that has to be terrible for the kids..... my condolences.......

is there a link to the story?

[brindle]

That is absolutely horrible. What a waste of a good man.

I hope these killers are found and culled.

Here is a link to a news article, it's the first link on the page about the Home Invasion:

http://www.cleveland-texas.com/feed2.htm (http://www.cleveland-texas.com/feed2.htm)

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Home Invasion Results in Man’s Death

TARKINGTON, August 1, 2006 - The Liberty County Sheriff’s Department is investigating a home invasion robbery that claimed the life of 25 year of Thomas Wiegner in Tarkington early Tuesday morning. Investigators were on the scene all day today processing the crime scene and collecting evidence in the case.

According to Liberty County Sheriff Greg Arthur, around 3:00 AM on Tuesday, the sound of barking dogs lead Thomas Wiegner out of the house to see what was going on where he was accosted by three black males. Wiegner returned to the house and during this time a scuffle took place. He was shot once taking his life. A dog inside the house was also shot and killed.

There were four adults and three children in the home last night. The assailants tide up everyone in the home.

Justice of the Peace Glenn Pruitt conducted an inquest at the scene and ordered an autopsy.

Sheriff Arthur requests that anyone who may have witnessed suspicious activity or automobiles in the area of Davis Hill Road near FM 2518 to contact the Liberty County Sheriff’s Department with that information at 936 336-4500.

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I am sickened by this senseless murder. I am glad there is not much mention of the bulldogs in the news article, but I am appalled at what happened to Tom.

My condolences to his family.

[misterdogman]

Yeah, im sorry Tab I know you lost a friend...and there is noting earthly or magical that will make it the same...I just hope you and his family know you have my condolences....and I know you'll remember.... pain is like a footprint....it fades...and time heals wounds...

[simms]

Horrible tragedy!

Do we need to be looking for any dogs? if so can you post pics and descripts.

[brindle]

Is there anything we can do to help the family?

And what about his dogs? He had a fine yard with some damn good dogs. But now? I just read something about that they will all be taken by the SPCA and killed? Anyone know more? I hope that is not happening. The poor man would not have wanted all his dogs to die too.

[LuvinBullies]

Is there anything we can do to help the family?

And what about his dogs? He had a fine yard with some damn good dogs. But now? I just read something about that they will all be taken by the SPCA and killed? Anyone know more? I hope that is not happening. The poor man would not have wanted all his dogs to die too.
OHHH NO!!! :( This is just horrible, haven't gotten over here for a few days and I cannot believe this has not been posted in any of my dog rescue forums!!!!
Is there anything I can do??????????? I am crossposting the article now, is there any info anyone would like me to forward to any of my pittie rescues?
I know it's not ideal for them, but maybe they can be held somewhere safe long enough for another suitable kennel to make room? I am so so sad for the family!!!! How terrible...the family shouldn't suffer by losing the dogs this man loved so much!! I hope they get those awful people.

[Riptora]

Yeah, Tab get back to us and let us know if we can do anything to help. This is a horrible scene. These things should not happen to anyone. Thank God the rest of the family was left unharmed! Just think of that...

[maryellen1]

how many dogs are involved? i am sorry for their loss. that is just horrible

[Ch.Hog05]

The world we live in today is sickening. Not only do we have to worry about the govt taking our pit bulls away, but also having these jerk-offs coming into our homes, or killing one another on the streets. What happened to you friend is awful, you have my condolences.

[maximusab]

My condolences to this family. I will pray for them. Please can anyone close to the family give some info about the dogs? What will happen to them? Is there anyway we can help?

[Dirty3rd]

Truly sorry. My condolences to his family. It's always hard to lose a true dogman. Especially to such a cowardly act.

[nikeballer06]

I'm not trying to be the heartless one on this thread but his murder doesn't come as a shock to me. I hate and refuse to just give out personal and classified info such as names of dogs and people especially in these situations but there is a story behind this.

Now from my knowledge there was a major incident that involved the theft of dogs. WPK was said to have been the theives who committed this crime on owner of a kennel with initials of W.R. On his website it was clearly noted that the situation happened before W.R.'s website was cancelled. Ironically the ped of a dog for sale involving W.R.'s dog bred to WPK's does not show up when clicked on the ped link of another website.

Now I'm not saying his murder was linked to the incident but it definitely should be considered.

Have a good one and let's try to keep this game as clean as possible, even though it's evidently corrupted.

[Riptora]

I'm not trying to be the heartless one on this thread but his murder doesn't come as a shock to me. I hate and refuse to just give out personal and classified info such as names of dogs and people especially in these situations but there is a story behind this.

Now from my knowledge there was a major incident that involved the theft of dogs. WPK was said to have been the theives who committed this crime on owner of a kennel with initials of W.R. On his website it was clearly noted that the situation happened before W.R.'s website was cancelled. Ironically the ped of a dog for sale involving W.R.'s dog bred to WPK's does not show up when clicked on the ped link of another website.

Now I'm not saying his murder was linked to the incident but it definitely should be considered.

Have a good one and let's try to keep this game as clean as possible, even though it's evidently corrupted.I hear what you are saying. Although this situation is purely evil and may these villians recieve their just desert, these things are inevidible when dealing in a certain crowd. I don't know anything about anyone involved in this story but I learned that unpleasentries are just waiting to happen when you deal with the wrong people. This is why I moved from NM, you have to be very careful who you keep company with. It's far worse when an entire family is involved. These things should never happen, but sometimes you can see them coming a mile away and if you don't get out, you can guess something bad will eventually transpire.

The past is the past, all that matters now is helping this family to move on and I think there are plenty of people willing to help. I hope all goes well with them.

[TabDogs]

I'm not trying to be the heartless one on this thread but his murder doesn't come as a shock to me. I hate and refuse to just give out personal and classified info such as names of dogs and people especially in these situations but there is a story behind this.

Now from my knowledge there was a major incident that involved the theft of dogs. WPK was said to have been the theives who committed this crime on owner of a kennel with initials of W.R. On his website it was clearly noted that the situation happened before W.R.'s website was cancelled. Ironically the ped of a dog for sale involving W.R.'s dog bred to WPK's does not show up when clicked on the ped link of another website.

Now I'm not saying his murder was linked to the incident but it definitely should be considered.

Have a good one and let's try to keep this game as clean as possible, even though it's evidently corrupted.
YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE AS TO WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. WPK DID NOT STEAL ANYTHING FROM ANYONE. THAT INCIDENT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT WAS TWISTED ON THE INTERNET. WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO STOP BELEIVING EVERYTHING THEY READ ON PEDS ONLINE. FOR YOU TO POINT THE FINGER AT SOMEONE YOU DO NOT KNOW IS WRONG. YOU DID NOT KNOW EITHER PARTY INVOLVED IN THE INCIDENT. THIS IS A SERIOUS MATTER AND NOT ANYTHING TO JOKE ABOUT. A MAN LOST HIS LIFE, KIDS LOST THEIR FATHER, AND A WIFE LOST HER HUSBAND. THEIR IS NO NEED FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS NO CLUE AS TO WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT TO COME ON HERE AND POINT FINGERS. THIS MATTER IS VERY SERIOUS TO ME. I KNOW BOTH WR AND WPK, AND IT SERIOUSLY BOTHERS ME THAT SOMEONE WHO DONT HAVE THE SLIGHTEST IDEA AS TO WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IS SPEWING BULLSHIT ON HERE.

[PIt4life]

Very very sad, RIP to him

[nikeballer06]

YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE AS TO WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. WPK DID NOT STEAL ANYTHING FROM ANYONE. THAT INCIDENT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT WAS TWISTED ON THE INTERNET. WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO STOP BELEIVING EVERYTHING THEY READ ON PEDS ONLINE. FOR YOU TO POINT THE FINGER AT SOMEONE YOU DO NOT KNOW IS WRONG. YOU DID NOT KNOW EITHER PARTY INVOLVED IN THE INCIDENT. THIS IS A SERIOUS MATTER AND NOT ANYTHING TO JOKE ABOUT. A MAN LOST HIS LIFE, KIDS LOST THEIR FATHER, AND A WIFE LOST HER HUSBAND. THEIR IS NO NEED FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS NO CLUE AS TO WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT TO COME ON HERE AND POINT FINGERS. THIS MATTER IS VERY SERIOUS TO ME. I KNOW BOTH WR AND WPK, AND IT SERIOUSLY BOTHERS ME THAT SOMEONE WHO DONT HAVE THE SLIGHTEST IDEA AS TO WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IS SPEWING BULLSHIT ON HERE.
I apologize TabDogs and I am very sorry for Tom, his family, friends, and you as it really hits you hard. I did not post this to affend anyone or start any rumors about Tom's death. Since my story is evidently wrong on all levels I will for now on post only facts instead of clues found by me. However, I will say this; on WR's website, what I stated was seen on his page. That is where I jumped to conclusion on having some idea of what could of possibly been linked to his death. I apologize once again and hope you and everyone else who have read my post forgive me for my mistake. If there is anything else we can discuss, whether on this matter or anything about dogs and etc. feel free to PM me and hopefully we can clear things up. I'm so sorry once again and hopefully you can forgive me. God Bless to all and take care.

[cheekymunkee]

My condolences to the family.

[cheekymunkee]

It gets worse

http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/khou060807_ac_pitbullbust.107b44c8.html



More than 250 pit bulls seized in Liberty County http://www.khou.com/bi/images/video_icon.gif



12:23 PM CDT on Monday, August 7, 2006



From 11 News Staff reports


http://www.khou.com/bi/images/video_icon.gif Raw video from the scene (http://www.khou.com/sharedcontent/VideoPlayer/videoPlayer.php?vidId=79912&catId=35)


A murder mystery led authorities to one of the biggest pit bull breeding operations they've ever seen.

More than 250 pit bulls allegedly bred for fighting were seized in Liberty County on Monday morning.

http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/M_IMAGE.10cd8bb789d.93.88.f8.2b.108280b9.jpg KHOU-TV

The dog farm is in Liberty County.


It was expected to take hours for Houston Humane Society workers and Precinct 6 deputies to get the dogs under control and into crates.

According to officials, Liberty County officials discovered the operation while allegedly investigating a home invasion in the 2200 block of CR 2252.

The dogs' owner, 27-year-old Thomas Weigner was found murdered in his home.

It's believed Weigner bred the dogs for fighting and shipped them across the country.

The dogs will be brought back to the Humane Society in Houston.

Officials estimated the entire operation would take six to eight hours.

[Marinepits]

A truly horrifying tragedy. My heart goes out to the family left behind, especially the children.

[Bullyboi]

that video is so damn sad :( its sad because i think i know whats gonna happen to those dogs when the humane society gets em

[miakoda]

The chains are short enough that they cannot get at one another. That says that they’re being bred for fighting and not as family pets
WTF??

Ok, first, the dogs might be "lying in their own filth" due to the fact that no one may be scooping up after them as it's hard for a wife to just go merrily scoop dog poop after watching her husband get shot to death in front of their children.

And 2, just more media bullshit. It's a shame that being a responsible dog owner making sure your dogs dont' run loose nor fight with each other is a sign of "fighting dogs".

[Marty]

Updated news: Authorities are seizing about 300 pit bull terriers from a suspected dogfighting ring based at a Liberty County residence where a fatal home invasion occurred last week.

Liberty County sheriff's deputies, Harris County Pct. 6 deputy constables and Houston Humane Society officials are at the site now at 2218 County Road 2252 in Cleveland.

The dogs, some left in outdoor kennels, are believed to have been bred for illegal dogfighting.

In the incident last week, Thomas Weigner, 27, bled to death after being shot in the leg, said Liberty County Sheriff Greg Arthur.

Weigner's wife, father-in-law and three children were tied up during the incident, but were not harmed, Arthur said.

"At this time, we don't believe it was a random home invasion," Arthur said. "We do believe there's a connection (to the dog ring)."

A Humane Society official said the seizure is a huge operation.

The dogs will have to be placed in individual crates for transportation because of the danger that they could attack each other if transported together, she said.

They will be brought to the organization's facility on Almeda Road on Houston's south side, she said.

rosanna.ruiz@chron.com

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4099422.html


(rosanna.ruiz@chron.com)

[cheekymunkee]

Houston Humane Society will not adopt out pit bulls. :mad: Not that they would these dogs anyway, they will meet the same fate as many before them.

[miakoda]

Houston Humane Society will not adopt out pit bulls. :mad: Not that they would these dogs anyway, they will meet the same fate as many before them.
I wonder if they'll just shoot 'em on scene & bag 'em in front of the kids & family like they did here in Louisiana. That's always a nice end. Gotta love the humane societies..............

[texas_dogger]

I have not known what to say since this happened but I am going to try. Tom unfortunately I did not get the pleasure to meet you.....but you have made a impact on the dog community that will never be forgotten. This is a serious blow to humanity and the dog community. We need to organize something in Tom's name such as a nation wide march for him, and his dogs. HSPCA does not adopt pitbulls....I am in disgust as to what I believe will happen to these dogs. Is there anything we as the dog community to stop the slaughter of his dogs?

[Suki]

that video is so damn sad :( its sad because i think i know whats gonna happen to those dogs when the humane society gets em


I was thinking that as well....
such a sad, sad story...:( all the way around...

[texas_dogger]

Also my condolences go out to his family and friends. I hope they catch those worthless mooncrickets that murdered him. I can think of more than a few ways to cull them.

[cdpits]

A news story on his dogs
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=local&id=4438815

[maryellen1]

well, if any of you want to save any part of his bloodline you better get your asses there and take what dogs you can, as once they make it to the shelter they will alll be euthed.. even the pups..300 dogs??? OMG..

[BoiBoi]

A news story on his dogs
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=local&id=4438815
Sorry for the foul mouth but that is so fucked up, how are they gonna charge his now widowed wife with those bullshit charges. All the dogs on his yard are well fed and taken care of, these MF's don't know shit about owning dogs. They claim the dogs are standing in there own waste, well shit thats what happens when u have a dog sometimes they shit a lot and u can't get to cleaning it right away. Damn fools and they even claim that there are good bloodline dogs in the yard but u think they care, nah they figure hey lets mess up the pitbull community by destroying some of the really good dogs that are out there. Why don't they go to some of those big hippo kennels with those unstable dogs and get rid of them, if anything those are more prone to being on the news than these well bred dogs.

[jeeperino]

I've been reading and watching all I can get my hands on about the tragic turn of events. This is ALLLLLLLL i have been thinking about. A few times I nearly came to tears. I never even met the man. Now the Fukkin HS and cops are adding more $hit on the pile for this poor woman and kids. Dont they know when enough is enough???? Take the dogs and LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!!!!!!! The children didnt roll one single dog why should they have to pay????

I keep seeing myself in his shoes. Our age, family, and love for the dogs were the same. This REALLY HIT HOME!!!!!!! After this $hit my yard is CLOSED to John Q. Public (even some friends:( ).

Are there any funds being set up for the widow and children??? Please let this info be known or PM it to me PLEASE!!

[Riptora]

I was suprised when someone on here mentioned that the Houston ASPCA did NOT adopt out APBT's because I always thought otherwise ( except that damned Miami one of course ). I checked into it and I see that they DO in fact, adopt out this breed as well as all others. I also am trying to contact them about these dogs in particular, to see if any will be rehomed or if the rumors hold true to their fate. I specifically mentioned the adoptablility of the puppies and I will post whatever responce, if any, that I recieve as soon as I ( hopefully ) get one.

[Bullyboi]

RIP they didnt go to the houston SPCA they went to the HOUSTON HUMANE SOCIETY or is that what your talking about http://www.houstonhumane.org/??

[Bullyboi]

Here is the page the 'humane society" is talking about these dogs http://www.houstonhumane.org/crueltycases.aspx.

[Riptora]

Uhhh... oopsie!http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Attila]

our yards should always be closed to the public. We don't run day cares. Common folk and any one you don't know you best concider your enemy. Believe you me if some one knocks on my door and I am not expecting any one the shot gun goes through first. They can call me crazy if they want to but I can live with that and so can my dogs. There is a code. Break it and the penalty should and shall be harsh. The top lines are under target. One of many reasons I don't post my pedigree's. I am not keen on Kennel registries that share information with out side sources. ADBA has already violated my trust more than once. So the dogs I keep registered with them are limited to a hand picked few. The rest are with other kennel clubs and out of country. I suggest you all keep your records private and register the dogs you aim to show and that is it. If you're smart you wont keep your whole private line in one yard or kennel. If you do it only takes once to wipe your operation out. And don't associate with outlaws period. I wouldn't even talk to them. I am sure some one knows who is responsible for this crime. They should deal with them. These type of folk should be hung till dead in the woods. Let the buzzards and coyotes find them and tend to the waste and rot.

[miakoda]

our yards should always be closed to the public. We don't run day cares. Common folk and any one you don't know you best concider your enemy. Believe you me if some one knocks on my door and I am not expecting any one the shot gun goes through first. They can call me crazy if they want to but I can live with that and so can my dogs. There is a code. Break it and the penalty should and shall be harsh. The top lines are under target. One of many reasons I don't post my pedigree's. I am not keen on Kennel registries that share information with out side sources. ADBA has already violated my trust more than once. So the dogs I keep registered with them are limited to a hand picked few. The rest are with other kennel clubs and out of country. I suggest you all keep your records private and register the dogs you aim to show and that is it. If you're smart you wont keep your whole private line in one yard or kennel. If you do it only takes once to wipe your operation out. And don't associate with outlaws period. I wouldn't even talk to them. I am sure some one knows who is responsible for this crime. They should deal with them. These type of folk should be hung till dead in the woods. Let the buzzards and coyotes find them and tend to the waste and rot.
I agree 100%.

[Attila]

RIP they didnt go to the houston SPCA they went to the HOUSTON HUMANE SOCIETY or is that what your talking about http://www.houstonhumane.org/??
I don't see why they went any where. It is friggen bull shit that they ever left the yard.

[Bullyboi]

I don't see why they went any where. It is friggen bull shit that they ever left the yard. I think the dogs should have been left on the yard and then they could get the chain spots cleaned up and then if they can no longer care for them let the family find homes for the dogs.

[Riptora]

AM - You're always so kind with your words! What if the poor shmuck is lost and needs directions? Hmmmm... it wouldn't be pretty!

I don't think you sell to the public, but if I were a serious buyer I would want to see the yard/kennel. I wouldn't buy a prospect dog/pup for show or working without having seen the property and the stock. I wouldn't sell a dog or pup to someone who didn't see my kennel either. If you don't deal with the public, then all the better, but if you sell to the public, I would imagine you should be able to show them something in the flesh.
Righty-O?

[Riptora]

I think the dogs should have been left on the yard and then they could get the chain spots cleaned up and then if they can no longer care for them let the family find homes for the dogs.Hmmmm... what the hell was the reasoning there? ( mean, as far as taking the dogs from the property ) I wonder if the wife just signed them over.

[Bullyboi]

Hmmmm... what the hell was the reasoning there? I wonder if the wife just signed them over.I dont really know im just saying
Because im sure there are many friends of tom that would be willing to take some of his dogs and continue his legacy and its better than the Humane society getting them because we know there gonna kill most of them if not all

[Attila]

AM - You're always so kind with your words! What if the poor shmuck is lost and needs directions? Hmmmm... it wouldn't be pretty!

I don't think you sell to the public, but if I were a serious buyer I would want to see the yard/kennel. I wouldn't buy a prospect dog/pup for show or working without having seen the property and the stock. I wouldn't sell a dog or pup to someone who didn't see my kennel either. If you don't deal with the public, then all the better, but if you sell to the public, I would imagine you should be able to show them something in the flesh.
Righty-O?
Well. They have a chance at the road to turn around right where it says do not enter, No tresspassing, no soliciters welcome. It is posted clearly that I don't want any one here. I dont deal with the public and if any one wants a dog off me they know how and when to call me. So I suppose if the person is illiterate or doesn't read english they will figure it out when the shot gun is raised that I don't want them there. I have run off idiots that ignored my signes. But they never ignore or forget the last sign I don't want them here. I don't have any beware of dog signs I have get lost I don't want unwelcome intruders signs. I wouldn't sell to the public for nothing. They couldn't afford to buy one of my dogs anyway. If the public wants to see my dogs they can go to a dog show. or if they just want to see animals they can go to a zoo. Where they pay people 6 bucks and hour to answer stupid questions and put of with annoying people. If they are stupid and lost I will send them out and tell them to turn right and then keep making rights till they are found.

[Riptora]

If they are stupid and lost I will send them out and tell them to turn right and then keep making rights till they are found.LMAO! sounds like you have a lot of signs! funny that some did still make it to your door... goodness!

[Riptora]

I dont really know im just saying
Because im sure there are many friends of tom that would be willing to take some of his dogs and continue his legacy and its better than the Humane society getting them because we know there gonna kill most of them if not allYes, I'm sure there are plenty of willing people to take those dogs. I hope things work out.

[Attila]

LMAO! sounds like you have a lot of signs! funny that some did still make it to your door... goodness!
the worst offenders are those with white shirts black pants and a black tie, and sales people. Neither of which get the red carpet welcome. I will tolerate a sales man or woman more than the other. At least I can mess with the sales folk with out having the urge to cut the male Shar-pei loose on them. Usually that is. I like it when they ask that they hope they are not disturbing me. And when I tell them I feel so sorry that they are illiterate. Beings that they couldn't read the warning signs that would lead to their eventual death. I love to tell them to wait right there while I go turn the fire up on the stove because I hadn't had fresh kill in weeks. They never seem to stay unless of course they are the first bunch because they are really stupid. Any body else is just stupid.

[maryellen1]

if the TX humane society that takes them feels they are fighting dogs, they will NOT be adopted out to the public.. i highly doubt any of the adults will make it out of there.. let alone the pups.... fighting dogs do not make it out of any humane center, whether they were fought or not, if they look like they could have or did they are euthed.

[Attila]

if the TX humane society that takes them feels they are fighting dogs, they will NOT be adopted out to the public.. i highly doubt any of the adults will make it out of there.. let alone the pups.... fighting dogs do not make it out of any humane center, whether they were fought or not, if they look like they could have or did they are euthed.

I suppose they would think the same about coon hounds, Boar hounds, bear hounds etc. Lord only knows what they would have thought about my coon and bear hounds. It is stupid. These people need to mind their own damn business. They wouldn't know a fighting dog if it was in their back pocket. What is it to them. They are messed up. Animals don't have rights. People do. These organizations look at dogs and cats as people. If I raised dogs and ate them it still isn't any of their business. To me that is gross but some people eat dog and cat. They don't see it the same way I am sure. Or I hope anyway. You can make a pet out of a chicken, I would eat it and never think twice about it. I grew up on a farm and I still own one today. My perimeter dogs get into it with coyotes, wild dogs, bobcats, coon, and so on. If they said my dogs looked like they had faught. They would be right. But not with eachother. And it isn't their damn business anyway. I am getting very sick of these so called animal protective services doing what the hell they please to other folks. If let go long enough we all will have problems with these jack asses. Time to start kicking their feet out from under them and re gain control of our lives and our animals. Next thing you know we will all be stuck eating tofu and veggie crap.

[maryellen1]

its sad, but they go by what peta says and the humane society. they are all so ignorant. if i have to give up a nice juicy steak for tofu no way no how.. i like my meat..

[Attila]

its sad, but they go by what peta says and the humane society. they are all so ignorant. if i have to give up a nice juicy steak for tofu no way no how.. i like my meat..
I love it when you talk like that. lol Now I am craving steak.

[maryellen1]

mmmm hot juicy red steak.... moist chicken open flame... pork loin dripping with juices and seasonings....

[cheekymunkee]

the worst offenders are those with white shirts black pants and a black tie, and sales people. Neither of which get the red carpet welcome. I will tolerate a sales man or woman more than the other. At least I can mess with the sales folk with out having the urge to cut the male Shar-pei loose on them. Usually that is. I like it when they ask that they hope they are not disturbing me. And when I tell them I feel so sorry that they are illiterate. Beings that they couldn't read the warning signs that would lead to their eventual death. I love to tell them to wait right there while I go turn the fire up on the stove because I hadn't had fresh kill in weeks. They never seem to stay unless of course they are the first bunch because they are really stupid. Any body else is just stupid.
That is true

I am the one who said that Houston Humane Society does not adopt out pit bulls. If I am mistaken I am very sorry. I was always under the impression that they did not. Did they have a policy shange recently? In any event, sorry for the mis-information. I do hope they find the people who did this. No matter what, no one deserves to die in front of their family like this, and certainly no one deserves to bleed to death slowly.

[SAM_I_AM]

I do hope they find the people who did this. No matter what, no one deserves to die in front of their family like this, and certainly no one deserves to bleed to death slowly.
Except the ones who did this.....

[jeeperino]

AM, Its not like I have a sign out front that says PUBLIC WELCOME and I dont sell dogs either. I try (tried) to be an ambassador to the breed and let SOME people look at my dogs. For example...One of my sons friends Mothers drops her kid off at my house and hears dogs barking, sees some dogs, then they have questions. I would GLADLY let her meet some of my dogs to see that they were friendly to ALL and were not a harm to her child playing at my house. I did this for a number of reasons, mainly to squash gossip about me havein "fighting" dogs or baby killers around town. I would always show them some unmarked dogs kept up front that were friendly. That is about the extent of my public display. I have also had people just pull in my driveway and want to buy a pup or dog without knowing a thing about me or my dogs. I simply say none for sale, thank you. The Presas up front are usually a good way to get my point across. But then people ask what kind of pitbull they are, I tell them they arent and leave it at that. Anyway, in a small town area people talk as we all know and I want (wanted) all the good press I could get. Gotta do what you can to turn down the heat or prevent any heat at all.

If I lived by myself it would be a diff story. But I dont, I have a wife and school age children that need to lead normal lives and not be shunned because I own APBT's.


YIS

[Attila]

AM, Its not like I have a sign out front that says PUBLIC WELCOME and I dont sell dogs either. I try (tried) to be an ambassador to the breed and let SOME people look at my dogs. For example...One of my sons friends Mothers drops her kid off at my house and hears dogs barking, sees some dogs, then they have questions. I would GLADLY let her meet some of my dogs to see that they were friendly to ALL and were not a harm to her child playing at my house. I did this for a number of reasons, mainly to squash gossip about me havein "fighting" dogs or baby killers around town. I would always show them some unmarked dogs kept up front that were friendly. That is about the extent of my public display. I have also had people just pull in my driveway and want to buy a pup or dog without knowing a thing about me or my dogs. I simply say none for sale, thank you. The Presas up front are usually a good way to get my point across. But then people ask what kind of pitbull they are, I tell them they arent and leave it at that. Anyway, in a small town area people talk as we all know and I want (wanted) all the good press I could get. Gotta do what you can to turn down the heat or prevent any heat at all.

If I lived by myself it would be a diff story. But I dont, I have a wife and school age children that need to lead normal lives and not be shunned because I own APBT's.


YIS
Ouch that hurt. Normal lives and not be shunned. Ok.

I low populated area. Some dogs can be used for public relations. I guess I am abnormal lived and shunned. Sigh**


WB


Maryellen,

Talk to me baby. You have my attention now.

[maryellen1]

hahaha.... i just picked up at the butcher a beautiful juicy thick red skirt steak, a beautiful rib eye steak dripping with red juices, sweet sausage, flounder stuffed with crabmeat, salmon stuffed, beautiful fresh cut center pork chops... all from the local farms up here.... tender, juicy, melt in your mouth meats..... and the best part, all for $46!!!! the guy undercharged me.... it was very very sweet indeed!!!

[Attila]

hahaha.... i just picked up at the butcher a beautiful juicy thick red skirt steak, a beautiful rib eye steak dripping with red juices, sweet sausage, flounder stuffed with crabmeat, salmon stuffed, beautiful fresh cut center pork chops... all from the local farms up here.... tender, juicy, melt in your mouth meats..... and the best part, all for $46!!!! the guy undercharged me.... it was very very sweet indeed!!!
ahhh now all we need is a cigarette lol. I don't smoke though.

[Marty]

New news...
Investigators on Tuesday collected and took pictures of dog-fighting equipment that will be used as evidence during a Monday court hearing to determine the fate of more than 300 pit bull terriers seized in Liberty County this week.

Liberty County Precinct 5 Justice of the Peace Burl Thomas will decide who will get custody of the dogs after their removal from a large-scale breeding operation because of alleged unhealthy living conditions and cruel treatment.

'We're seeking to have them placed with the Houston Humane Society," said Sgt. Mark Timmers, an animal cruelty investigator with the organization and the Harris County Precinct 6 Constable Office. Timmers said the dog-fighting evidence included a treadmill and water swimming tank, both used to build an animal's strength and endurance.

The evidence will be presented during the hearing to show the pit bulls were being trained for fighting and were subjected to cruel conditions, he said.

Liberty County Sheriff, Harris County Precinct 6 constable and Houston Humane Society officials also collected the remaining 35 to 40 dogs from the property in the 2200 block of County Road 2252, east of Cleveland.

Investigators spent most of Monday on the secluded 15- to 20-acre property, freeing the dogs from filthy wood pens and a muddy, snake-infested field where many were staked to the ground. The dogs have been taken to the Houston Humane Society where they will remain until the hearing.

Sheriff's officials discovered the breeding operation while responding to a home invasion at the property last week.

The homeowner, Thomas Weigner Jr., 27, was shot and killed during the 3 a.m. home invasion Aug. 1. Police think the motive was robbery.

Investigators said they think Weigner was breeding and training the pit bulls for dog fighting and had a breeding operation in Pennsylvania before moving to Texas a couple of years ago. Based on the number and quality of the dogs found in Liberty County, police estimated their value at $1 million.

Dog fighting is illegal in all 50 states, but there are no laws regulating the breeding of fighting dogs.

Because Weigner is dead, investigators must wait to see who will appear in court to claim ownership of the animals.

Timmers said Weigner's wife and children, who were bound with duct tape during the home invasion, were in Pennsylvania Tuesday. The family held Weigner's funeral services there, police said.

Weigner's wife was uncooperative and gave police little information about the dog operation, Timmers said.

Weigner's father also had little to say when contacted by telephone Tuesday. "I haven't seen or heard from my son in 27 years and that's all I know," said Thomas Weigner of Pittsburgh.

If someone claims ownership of the dogs during the hearing, the person could face criminal charges filed by the Liberty County Sheriff's Office, Timmers said.

If no one comes forward, including Weigner's wife or family, then the dogs likely will be turned over to a nonprofit animal agency. Timmers said Weigner's wife still could face charges because police think she participated in the operation.

Under Texas law, animal cruelty is a misdemeanor punishable by a year in jail or up to a $4,000 fine or both. However, a 2001 law allows a person convicted of animal cruelty and torture to be charged with a felony, punishable by two years in jail and up to a $10,000 fine or both.

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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/4104078.html

[Bullyboi]

Timmers said the dog-fighting evidence included a treadmill and water swimming tank, both used to build an animal's strength and endurance.

The evidence will be presented during the hearing to show the pit bulls were being trained for fighting and were subjected to cruel conditions, he said.these people are damn idiots!

[Marty]

Took the words right out of my mouth :(

[brindle]

They had no reason to take those dogs and if it had been any other breed, they would not have taken them. But pit bulls are big news and they can get their 10 mins of fame for "we took 300 pit bulls.."

It is BS. It is wrong and I bet it is illegal too. If his wife were tougher and got a lawyer, she could fight for those dogs. They are considered valuable property and she could sell the dogs and get money to start her life over instead of having these dogs die at the hands of the SPCA.

The dogs were not ill kept. There was yard help hired to take care of them. That was one of the best maintained large yards in existence. It is much healthier for a bulldog to be on a chain with a dog house than shut in some small inside cage in an over crowded dirty shelter. Or kept in a crate 23 hrs of 24 hrs as some show people do.

There was no proof of dog fighting nor any legal reason to take the dogs. They are grasping at straws with a "swimming tank and a treadmill". Other breeds are conditioned on a treadmill and they even sell treadmills at the big AKC shows. But say the words "pit bull" and it is automatically "dog fighting" equipment even though many other breeds are conditioned on a treadmill.

They could have left the dogs there on the property. Those were fine dogs and this is another black mark for the breed. They will concentrate on the dogs and let the killers go, I bet they won't even look for them. They have a better story with "300 pit bulls taken"...

[Attila]

Now they want to charge her too. What is next the kids. Charge them and his dad. What a bunch of fargging idiots. I have flush turds smarter and more ethical than these butt sniffs. It is a sad sad world we live in now.

[simms]

Now they want to charge her too. What is next the kids. Charge them and his dad. What a bunch of fargging idiots. I have flush turds smarter and more ethical than these butt sniffs. It is a sad sad world we live in now.
This case makes me want to puke!

You ought to read what folks are saying on other boards....

For those of you that are breathing a sigh of relief on this in favor of these dogs.....You dont derseve the dogs you own! In the end,when these gastopos come knockin for your dogs....dont be lookin for empathy.

[Attila]

This case makes me want to puke!

You ought to read what folks are saying on other boards....

For those of you that are breathing a sigh of relief on this in favor of these dogs.....You dont derseve the dogs you own! In the end,when these gastopos come knockin for your dogs....dont be lookin for empathy.

I hear you. I just prepare for another war. Might as well.

[cheekymunkee]

This case makes me want to puke!

You ought to read what folks are saying on other boards....

For those of you that are breathing a sigh of relief on this in favor of these dogs.....You dont derseve the dogs you own! In the end,when these gastopos come knockin for your dogs....dont be lookin for empathy.
I HAVE read on another board & it makes me sick. People disgust me. No matter WHAT you think of the man, his practices or the amount of dogs he had he did not deserve to die like that and his kids did not deserve to watch. Horrifying is what it is.

[Rocky H. Balboa]

The death of Thomas W. must be resolved. We must police ourselves. We must protect ourselves from ourselves. It is not snitching to report these bastards. It is culling our society's maggots. I will leave it at that.

Now, looking into the dogs. These people have no case. There was an acknowledgement that his yard was not used as a fighting spot. The most they mention is that the dogs were bred for fighting. The only charge is neglect of animals. Bah! The most they should have done is given a warning to the family. In fact, they would have if not for the 300+ headline taking them away produced. We must all put our heads together on this. We must use our experiences and resources to help the Widow and family gain back the fruits of her husband's labor. I have spoken to someone near the events. In fact, I learned about this from him first. He agrees that the dogs will be returned but that the housing/feed/vaccination fees the "Humane Society" will impose will ultimately determine the fate of these wonderful dogs. He reminded me that Mr. Tant's yard was lost in this way.

So now, I ask you all to do some research. Find court cases where these fees have been waived. It does not need to be dogs. I just hope his widow has the strength to fight the good battle. A battle that in my eyes can be won. A win that will become a precedent in the welfare of our dogs. I hope she chooses to reclaim her inheritance (key word). Here is how I see her winning a waiver of fees:

First, the owner never granted permission to remove the dogs (hopefully this is the case). This means that it was the "Humane Society"'s (HS) decision to take them away. Let's look at the HS motive to remove the dogs. Feces was present they say. My question: How much of it was present? One day's? One week's? One Month's? Obviously if it was one day or up to a few weeks, there is enough evidence to show that there was maintenance intent.

Second, did the dogs look malnutritioned? Obviously that is not the case. Otherwise, the HS would have screamed this in their official statements.

Third, was there a need to vaccinate the dogs? This part I don't know. I assume him being a responsible owner, vaccinations would be part of the routine. I wonder if the family kept record of vaccinations? I wonder if the family provided these records to the HS? If answers to both these questions are Yes, then there was no need to re-vaccinate. This was the choice of the HS.

Fourth, they claim the dogs were living in stagnant water. Humm, I would ask, did it rain in those days? How much rain?

Now, if the family can be proven to have proactively cared for the dogs in their yard, they cannot be charged with neglect. If the dogs were removed without the signing off from the owner(s) and HS did so without valid merit (meaning it would have not done so if it was one dog or a different breed), then the housing cost, etc should not be incurred by the family.

Thus, again I ask you all, to seek court cases with similarities to this case. Look into cattle, horses, pigs, whatever! See if any of these cases were decided as a no housing, etc. fee to the owners. I am sure the fact that the owner is dead will be helpful in our case. This case can be a good precedent if treated right.

We must all unite and help the family of this incredible breeder and lover of bulldogs.

Respectfully yours,


RH

[Hoyden]

'We're seeking to have them placed with the Houston Humane Society," said Sgt. Mark Timmers, an animal cruelty investigator with the organization and the Harris County Precinct 6 Constable Office. Timmers said the dog-fighting evidence included a treadmill and water swimming tank, both used to build an animal's strength and endurance.

The evidence will be presented during the hearing to show the pit bulls were being trained for fighting and were subjected to cruel conditions, he said.

Damn, my physical therapist be a dog fighter too. :rolleyes: He has treadmills and a swimming tank for dogs that he does therapy with. (He does human and canine PT BTW).

He has the nicest carpet mill I've ever seen.

[Hoyden]

Fourth, they claim the dogs were living in stagnant water. Humm, I would ask, did it rain in those days? How much rain?

RH
Courtesy of Weather Underground. Precipitation for CONROE, Tx for the week preceding and the week of Tom's murder. Over 2 in. of rain received. On August 1st, over 1/2 in. of rain was received.

July 2006
http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/airport/KCXO/2006/7/18/WeeklyHistory.html
http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/airport/KCXO/2006/7/25/WeeklyHistory.html
http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/airport/KCXO/2006/7/15/MonthlyHistory.html#calendar

August 2006
http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/airport/KCXO/2006/8/1/WeeklyHistory.html
http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/airport/KCXO/2006/8/15/MonthlyHistory.html#calendar



I typed in Cleveland and it gave me Conroe. If someone can help me with Texas locales, I can post a more accurate report.

[Bullyboi]

ARIGHT GUYS ...THIS IS A CROSS POST FROM ANOTHER BOARD :(

im as sad as everyone else for toms family and this has some info about the dogs, there heath (which was overall good and well fed) and there exact numbers and such. I edited it a little that would have no use in posting.

This came from someone who spoke with an "animal cruelty investigator" that was there

I highlighted in red the parts for those who didnt think his dogs were heathy:rolleyes:.

It looks like there is hope for some of these dogs!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Time for some facts from someone that was there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These are from one of the animal cruelty investigators that I foster and train dogs for here in Galveston, Texas. He also Temperment tested the dogs before they were loaded up and assist in the search for the warrant.

There was a total of 325 dogs in total with 8 litters of pups ranging from 6wks to 6months and from 4 to 10 pups in a litter.

Some of the adults will be able to be adopted out and there is a list for people already, which will be thoroughly screening. The pups will have a chance as well for adoption.

The wife originally denied any ownership but is now claiming 19 of them.

Upon entering the house you could tell that there was a few dogs which turned out to 35 dogs in kennels and were well taken care of. One of the dogs was worth a $20k in the fighting world.

The owner had a small vet clinic with injectables, antibiotics,other clinical care supplies and some steriods as well.

The genral health of the dogs I was told was prety good having that many dogs with some having a few patches of mange on thier legs, one or two had ring worm, and one or two looked a bit under feed but no bad cases of emaciation.


I was also told that most of the dogs didn't look like pit bulls. A bunch had thin-tappered into a point muzzles with big floppy ears like a hound."

[Riptora]

That's what I like to hear! http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gifThanks for digging that up.

[bakerbt]

Keep us updated if you hear anything else.

[GSDbulldog]

Heh, maybe if the H$U$ determines them to really be "hounds" they'll let them go alive.

[Attila]

Heh, maybe if the H$U$ determines them to really be "hounds" they'll let them go alive.
Probably cur hounds for hunting. Well if only six dogs only had minor stuff we already know that the dogs were much better off with the owneress and that they will not recieve good care in HU shelters. No good room. little cage and half if that rations. $20,000 dog eh. She must be able to look at another dog and make it cur out. lol

[Rocky H. Balboa]

I just read posts telling how different the opinions in other forums are relating to Tom's yard........I rather not visit those places because I am afraid of my reaction and replying posts. I will ask those here that are also members in those forums to please step up and educate these fools. I hope they need only education to realize their error.

The yard was clearly raided because of the breed. I have seen enough animal cops to know that these people (Peta/ASPCA minded) have totally different standards for our dogs. If the dogs are placed together (talking of other breeds) they say that they were in danger of fighting each other. If they see they had their own food, water, and space and were secured so that they won't fight, they are deemed "dangerous" and that is why they are kept in that manner. IDIOTS!

If I did not love the dogs, i would call one of these ASPCA organizations on one of their yards to show them they are not inmune to bigotry.

I am sad to know that no matter how much good one does in their yard, if you own game bred dogs, you are in danger of prosecution. They want to eliminate the true breed at all costs. We must save it, at all cost. Those that have valuable dogs, please do keep them in different yards.

Regards,


RH

[Bullyboi]

Shit! bad news... :(



http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=local&id=4472172



(8/17/06 - KTRK/HOUSTON) - It looks like dozens of the 300 pit bulls found in Liberty County a week and a half ago will be put to sleep. That's a judge's ruling.

Deputy constables say the dogs were bred and used in a million dollar dog fighting ring. The family who owns the dogs didn't post a bond, so the case went to the judge's hands. The judge ruled that all of the dogs older than six months old -- which is most of this group -- will be put to sleep. All of the dogs under six months will be sold at auction.
(Copyright © 2006, KTRK-TV)

What the fukc do they mean there going to be sold at auction??

[ghost 1]

It gets worse

http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/khou060807_ac_pitbullbust.107b44c8.html



More than 250 pit bulls seized in Liberty County http://www.khou.com/bi/images/video_icon.gif



12:23 PM CDT on Monday, August 7, 2006



From 11 News Staff reports


http://www.khou.com/bi/images/video_icon.gif Raw video from the scene (http://www.khou.com/sharedcontent/VideoPlayer/videoPlayer.php?vidId=79912&catId=35)


A murder mystery led authorities to one of the biggest pit bull breeding operations they've ever seen.

More than 250 pit bulls allegedly bred for fighting were seized in Liberty County on Monday morning.

http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/M_IMAGE.10cd8bb789d.93.88.f8.2b.108280b9.jpg KHOU-TV

The dog farm is in Liberty County.


It was expected to take hours for Houston Humane Society workers and Precinct 6 deputies to get the dogs under control and into crates.

According to officials, Liberty County officials discovered the operation while allegedly investigating a home invasion in the 2200 block of CR 2252.

The dogs' owner, 27-year-old Thomas Weigner was found murdered in his home.

It's believed Weigner bred the dogs for fighting and shipped them across the country.

The dogs will be brought back to the Humane Society in Houston.

Officials estimated the entire operation would take six to eight hours.damn shame,,,and now gonna wipe out TW's lifes work,,,hmmm wonder who's the cops really lookin out for,, they need to get the pricks that done it and leave the dogs alone,,,

[ghost 1]

the worst offenders are those with white shirts black pants and a black tie, and sales people. Neither of which get the red carpet welcome. I will tolerate a sales man or woman more than the other. At least I can mess with the sales folk with out having the urge to cut the male Shar-pei loose on them. Usually that is. I like it when they ask that they hope they are not disturbing me. And when I tell them I feel so sorry that they are illiterate. Beings that they couldn't read the warning signs that would lead to their eventual death. I love to tell them to wait right there while I go turn the fire up on the stove because I hadn't had fresh kill in weeks. They never seem to stay unless of course they are the first bunch because they are really stupid. Any body else is just stupid.

i don't tolerate sales ppl ,,,, when the dog hits the door they don't want to sell me nothing anymore,,, they always say "we'll come back at a better time and i never see them again,,i mean if i wanted to buy something i'll call them,,,i've learned well through life,,, less ppl knows about ur business less they'll be in it,,

[Attila]

i don't tolerate sales ppl ,,,, when the dog hits the door they don't want to sell me nothing anymore,,, they always say "we'll come back at a better time and i never see them again,,i mean if i wanted to buy something i'll call them,,,i've learned well through life,,, less ppl knows about ur business less they'll be in it,,
That is for sure. Nothing worse than un invited folks asking stupid questions the blabbing only what they can remember and make up the rest.

[BoiBoi]

Damnit i say we get a few trucks and bulldozers together and storm the shelter, get all the dogs out and maybe even run over a few HS workers in the process, that would be 2 for the price of 1, causing some destruction and saving all those dogs, what u guys think lol

[Bullyboi]

Damnit i say we get a few trucks and bulldozers together and storm the shelter, get all the dogs out and maybe even run over a few HS workers in the process, that would be 2 for the price of 1, causing some destruction and saving all those dogs, what u guys think lolfunny stuff man lol

[BoiBoi]

who says im kidding, shoot im down if anyone else is LOL

[Riptora]

Sold at AUCTION? What the hell kind of crap is that? I've NEVER heard of seized or unclaimed dogs sold at auction?

[cheekymunkee]

Sold at AUCTION? What the hell kind of crap is that? I've NEVER heard of seized or unclaimed dogs sold at auction?
The judge ordered them sold INTACT at that. Unbelievable. Just unfuckingbelievable.

[Attila]

Damnit i say we get a few trucks and bulldozers together and storm the shelter, get all the dogs out and maybe even run over a few HS workers in the process, that would be 2 for the price of 1, causing some destruction and saving all those dogs, what u guys think lol
I am up for it so long as I can pick off the runners.

[Attila]

The judge ordered them sold INTACT at that. Unbelievable. Just unfuckingbelievable.
I love it when you talk dirty like that. lol Just shows you what the state was in it for. The Money.

[Riptora]

Oh, you know... I know exactly why they would want to do that... I smell a giant cheese in a huge trap for rats!

[BoiBoi]

hey hold up attila im not letting u have all the fun, my rifle needs to be sighted in so ima take a few shots at the runners too maybe even bust out the bow and try for some long distance shots with it fun fun

[cheekymunkee]

I love it when you talk dirty like that. lol Just shows you what the state was in it for. The Money.
I did it just for you A.M.;)

[Attila]

I did it just for you A.M.;)
That is sweet. Makes me feel all warm in side. Ok I am ready the tackle the world.http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif I new I should have stopped in Dallas last weekend. dang.

BoiBoi, that is cool I will bring one of my bows too. Cross bow. 265 lb pull. Gets a good pass through. lol

[BoiBoi]

see i wanna be as mean as possible and bring my compound bow with 70lb of draw weight but use practice tips just to mess with those bastards

[Attila]

see i wanna be as mean as possible and bring my compound bow with 70lb of draw weight but use practice tips just to mess with those bastards
Hell if that is the case hit them with small game blunts in the back of the head. lol that is fun. Us a 50 pound bow and you can have the arrow sticking out both sides. lol