Who wants a lazy, fat, blue hippo?

[Diesel]

Not me.

My big buddy Diesel and his favorite passtime.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/oboykennels/7-16-06093.jpg http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/oboykennels/7-16-06091.jpg http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/oboykennels/7-16-06086.jpg http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/oboykennels/7-16-06087.jpg http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/oboykennels/7-16-06090.jpg http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/oboykennels/7-16-06088.jpg
He really got up there on that last one. That toy is over 7 feet up!
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/oboykennels/7-16-06079.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/oboykennels/7-16-06083.jpg
He loves the summertime, I usually keep him pretty lean this time of year because he gets so much more road work in.

I just love to post him up... he makes me burst with pride.

[catcher T]

he looks happy thats for sure!!

[MercedesMama]

He does look like he's having a good time! He is a handsome boy

[misterdogman]

I like that you keep him leaner and more athletic....at least your putting him to use...so many people here in Iowa with Blue pits let them live like a bulldog and be lazy and fat....he is in good hands it looks like he is well exercised...I do have to say he is a good looking dog for not being a fan of blues at all hes the best ive seen in at least a fortnight...

[Verderben]

He is cute :)

[Attila]

good looking dog. For a minute there I thought this tread was going to be about my ex wife. lol What is he jumping after a rope? Now this should show you why my dogs can get over my six foot fence with ease.

[mydawgs]

He is a fantastic lookin dog.....I can see why he continues to make you proud!!!!!

[newbieturtlepits]

love the color blue on a dog... friend gave me a blue dobie show dog 17 years ago , poor thing is in the process of leaving me... that guy looks great and happy ,, have a fun , long , relationship ... good luck

[Big Game]

I must say it is impressive to see a dog of that size jump 7 feet in the air. at what age did he start jumping like that? I ask because my boy Big Game is about the same build and size as Desial. When he was younger I thought he would never leave the ground.(Well he used to jump every once in a wile about 1ft at most:) ) but recently he has descoverd his ability to jump. Althow not quite 7 feet. I am thinking he is still coming into his own. I know large dogs tend to mature slowly. ps what lines is youre boy down from? just currious. He is a good looking dog. Way to go keeping him ion shape.

[tnob]

Good looking dog. Not trying to knock but he is far from lean. I have a blue dog and she is lean. Take a look at my gallery.

[missybee16]

Sure enjoys it, looks determind.

[Patch O' Pits]

Looks like he loves to play

[Dirty3rd]

Nice looking boy. You should be proud of him.

[CB]

Good looking dog. Not trying to knock but he is far from lean. I have a blue dog and she is lean. Take a look at my gallery.Im thinking the same that dog is far from being in shape. And could lose about 5 pounds. Still a blue hippo to me haha.

[firestarter]

Im thinking the same that dog is far from being in shape. And could lose about 5 pounds. Still a blue hippo to me haha.
Fine looking dog....don't listen to what these clowns say:D

[miakoda]

It's not an APBT, it's not in shape, quit kidding yourself, quite lying & misinforming the public & for God's sake quit breeding him & peddling puppies!!

[tnob]

Well Mia was straight to the point!

[miakoda]

Well Mia was straight to the point!
LOL. Well, they always say "The shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line!":D

[Gangsta]

Who cares what breed he is. He was posted here because he looks like the other dogs we all own so he fits into this category.

Only thing I would want different is his color, everything else about him is just fine. Keep the pics of him coming. Got any more?

[PIT_DOMINATION]

looks good for a large dog. if you guys want to see a real atheletic blue check out Patch o pits blue thats one nice looking dog.

[debodebo]

Thanks Mia. You always speak the truth. Tried to give you rep points, but you know how that goes. Must spread the love first.It's not an APBT, it's not in shape, quit kidding yourself, quite lying & misinforming the public & for God's sake quit breeding him & peddling puppies!!

[Diesel]

It's not an APBT, it's not in shape, quit kidding yourself, quite lying & misinforming the public & for God's sake quit breeding him & peddling puppies!!Im sorry!?
you are WAY off base for that one. At what point have you EVER seen me sell a puppy? I shared with you some pictures of the one litter that he has ever sired and ALL of those puppies are right here near me and under contract.
EDIT: and that is just for the few that werent altered prior to placement.

So no there is no peddling going on. What you need to do is quit assuming you know everything (or anything in this case) about people and their integrity based soley on YOUR opinion of thier dogs and what people that have those lines of dogs do". DO people that work in these lines fit your description... of course. Does everyone, clearly not. I am not a peddler nor do I have masses of pups going out of my house left and right. I have had one litter and it was strictly for ME.

Some of you people on this board are so damn self-righteous.

Get your facts straight before you start pointiong fingers and making accusations. Itsd called defamation of character.. and you dont know near enough about me to be attempting to do it.

[Diesel]

Oh, and for those that think he is not in shape. I disagree. Having no body fat is not healthy in any animal. Its not natural to keep any dog so lean that you can count every rib in its body... thats called starvation. Period, point blank you will NEVER see an animal that is kept in that condition on a constant basis. Even your dogs have to be cycled on and off ogf being that lean, its draining and after time they will get weak because of it. If you disagree with me, I understand... i mean after all noone on here is ever wrong right:rolleyes:

LOL, it kills me sometimes, I sit back and read some post and just kind of laugh to myself. I wonder how is it that you ever learn anything if you are so convinced you know it all?

But for those that did have positive comments- thank you for at least appreciateing him for what he is. perhaps not what you yourself would own but on some level you have to respect his ability and determination. Thats the only reason I post him. Look past him being blue and just look at him as a dog. 90+ pounds and he floats on air with the agility and speed of dogs half his size... I love it. personally.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/oboykennels/june2406outback015.jpg http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/oboykennels/june2406outback027.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/TheVILLAIN/2-14-2006pupplay063.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/TheVILLAIN/2-14-2006pupplay051.jpg
I have literally hundreds of pictures of him doing this type of thing, be it pulling, flirt pole, tug rope, spring pole, running, you name it. He is an athlete... it gives him the greatest joy. His tail wags non-stop when he is doing this stuff. and that is enough for me.

[Marty]

Oh, and for those that think he is not in shape. I disagree. Having no body fat is not healthy in any animal. Its not natural to keep any dog so lean that you can count every rib in its body... thats called starvation. Period, point blank you will NEVER see an animal that is kept in that condition on a constant basis. Even your dogs have to be cycled on and off ogf being that lean, its draining and after time they will get weak because of it. If you disagree with me, I understand... i mean after all noone on here is ever wrong right:rolleyes:

LOL, it kills me sometimes, I sit back and read some post and just kind of laugh to myself. I wonder how is it that you ever learn anything if you are so convinced you know it all?

But for those that did have positive comments- thank you for at least appreciateing him for what he is. perhaps not what you yourself would own but on some level you have to respect his ability and determination. Thats the only reason I post him. Look past him being blue and just look at him as a dog. 90+ pounds and he floats on air with the agility and speed of dogs half his size... I love it. personally.

I have literally hundreds of pictures of him doing this type of thing, be it pulling, flirt pole, tug rope, spring pole, running, you name it. He is an athlete... it gives him the greatest joy. His tail wags non-stop when he is doing this stuff. and that is enough for me.I'll make you the same deal... http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?p=154468#post154468

;)

[misterdogman]

Well hes not a fat lazy blue hippo..hes a well tuned one...I guess that is the way he was bred...from thin energetic hippos.

[miakoda]

thank you for at least appreciateing him for what he is
Oh we appreciate him for what he is, but it's not an APBT. He's a nice looking bulldog mix.

And my OEB works a springpole & flirtpole more often & sometimes harder than any of my APBTs, but that doesn't make him anywhere on the same level as a well tuned athlete. And your dog reminds me a lot in terms of look & body structure as my OEB. But I guess OEBs just don't bring in the amount of money peddling pups that oversized 100+lb blues on spiked collars do. Have a good one! :)

[miakoda]

Now this is a blue APBT (thank you tnob ;) ) :

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/2/3/8/8/rileytba.jpg
breed the above dog to this dog
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/1/6/2/1/PIC00001_471837.jpg

and you get this dog
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/oboykennels/7-16-06083.jpg

[Diesel]

My dog looks NOTHING... NOTHING.... like an OEB. At least get creative with it and use breeds of dog that are a possibility. I would be far more likely to believe a neo a few generations back then to see a OEB. maybe its just me.
LOL, you make me smile.

Marty- I am not sure if I follow. perhaps if I could see both pics it would make more sense. repost it.

[Diesel]

Oh, wait a minute... I see it. Oh, yes, DUH! how could I be so blind:rolleyes: .
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-1/93707/photoshoot1063.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-1/93707/3-11-06outback008.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-1/93707/3-11-06outback006.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-1/93707/d-random003.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-1/93707/2-14-2006pupplay041.jpg
OEB all over the place.

[Marty]

Marty- I am not sure if I follow. perhaps if I could see both pics it would make more sense. repost it.See attached thumb nail ;)

[firestarter]

Diesel....don't worry what these people say. They're judging a dog that looks identical to everyone elses just based on their color. Man this sounds so familiar (skinheads!)

[miakoda]

Diesel....don't worry what these people say. They're judging a dog that looks identical to everyone elses just based on their color. Man this sounds so familiar (skinheads!)
??? That dog looks nothing like my dogs. I'm failing to see the resemblence.

Anyways, I don't care if the damn thing is blue, green, purple, or pink, any dog bred specifically for size & color is a dog bred for ALL the wrong reasons. Period. And when advertising mixed breed dogs as a breed of dog that already has a problem being identified by the general public, it makes it even worse. You see, a few days ago in Shreveport, a 130lb pit bull was shot. Hmmm....130lbs huh? That's about 100lbs more than some of my dogs weigh. Now explain how that occurs within a 5 year period.

[Diesel]

[QUOTE=miakoda You see, a few days ago in Shreveport, a 130lb pit bull was shot. Hmmm....130lbs huh? That's about 100lbs more than some of my dogs weigh. Now explain how that occurs within a 5 year period.[/QUOTE]
Within 5 years of what? Many lines of dog have been being selectively bred (right, wrong, or indifferently) for decades. What do you mean in 5 years?
Side note I dont think any dog that weighs a hundred and anything pounds is a real APBT. Its probably Eddington blood... or dagger... or Sierra... or watchdog... or one of the other weight pull lines that are known to have mixed in mastiff for added size. Yeah, they are out there.. no question. No one is saying that they are not. No one is saying that certain lines are bred with other purposes in mind, no one is saying that that is right or that it is wrong (well I guess that is exactly what you are saying)... moving on. The point is that my dog is like my kid. I like to share him and have been sharing him with this board for close to a year now (man it doesnt seem that long).
Everytime I post him there is a few more people that will at least admit that for what he is, he is a good boy. I am not asking anyone to take him home, to "buy a puppy" or to okay his existance. It should be obvious by now that no matter what anyone says I am still going to be a proud.

no matter what.

[firestarter]

Well Mia, based on this response:
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"It's not an APBT, it's not in shape, quit kidding yourself, quite lying & misinforming the public & for God's sake quit breeding him & peddling puppies!!"

you must be some perfect specimen of the human race with close to zero bodyfat.;) That dog looks to be in great shape and nobody should be so superficial on a dog that is someone's companion. Just cuz it's not all cut to your "high" standards doesnt mean it's no APBT.

[Attila]

Well Mia, based on this response:
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"It's not an APBT, it's not in shape, quit kidding yourself, quite lying & misinforming the public & for God's sake quit breeding him & peddling puppies!!"

you must be some perfect specimen of the human race with close to zero bodyfat.;) That dog looks to be in great shape and nobody should be so superficial on a dog that is someone's companion. Just cuz it's not all cut to your "high" standards doesnt mean it's no APBT.
Not many people can claim to be pure blood anything. We are not discussing breeding people. However it would be good to see more pure breed people of any race. And more fit ones. If it were only as easy as breeding anything else. There is a standard for the dog. It has a wide enough varience to allow for body fat. Any thing over or under is out of standard. Period. When the dog is way over or under the standard it is either a genetic freak of nature or a mixbreed. Have seen both. If every dog you produce is out of standard it is not a genetic freak of nature but a mix of some sort some place in the line. I am going on both the large and small because it is becoming more evident that some folks are trying to make a minature or toy model. Both extremes can be found in the Poodle for instance. Each size has a standard and a different temperment. Therefore they are not the same dog. They should not be called the same dog. Unlike the Beagle that has two sizes of standard they both have the same temperment. How often do we hear about the 35 pound APBT attacking someone? It is easy to see why the public doesn't know what a APBT is. An unconditioned dog that is 65+ pounds is very different than a conditioned something at 70+ pounds. You then get a dog that should have its own name and standard. What ever that may be. If your going to do it give it a name that isn't already allocated for another dog and develop it into a standard. It is the way it is properly done. I understand some pounds over and under even an inch or two of hight varience but to be +/- 3 inches and over/under 10 pounds is un-acceptable. UPF lets you pull using dogs of various breeds go with them. Develope your breeds and go with it. I am not for or against that. Breeding a mutt and putting it as a pure blood I am not for. It is a form of cheating in my book. Just like taking a donkey and a horse. Mix them you get a mule. Not the fore mentioned.

[firestarter]

Some of you people on here seem just as bad as those stereotyping our dogs.....Shame on you! As someone above me mentioned that a poodle of different size should be classified a different kind of dog and not a poodle. How do you figure? ? Thats like saying a little person, which is still a human should be called something else other than human cuz they're small. From what I understand (from reading here) is that the APBT was originated froma mix of several dogs...so there IS no such thing as pure

[firestarter]

Not many people can claim to be pure blood anything. We are not discussing breeding people. However it would be good to see more pure breed people of any race. And more fit ones. If it were only as easy as breeding anything else. There is a standard for the dog. It has a wide enough varience to allow for body fat. Any thing over or under is out of standard. Period. When the dog is way over or under the standard it is either a genetic freak of nature or a mixbreed. Have seen both. If every dog you produce is out of standard it is not a genetic freak of nature but a mix of some sort some place in the line. I am going on both the large and small because it is becoming more evident that some folks are trying to make a minature or toy model. Both extremes can be found in the Poodle for instance. Each size has a standard and a different temperment. Therefore they are not the same dog. They should not be called the same dog. Unlike the Beagle that has two sizes of standard they both have the same temperment. How often do we hear about the 35 pound APBT attacking someone? It is easy to see why the public doesn't know what a APBT is. An unconditioned dog that is 65+ pounds is very different than a conditioned something at 70+ pounds. You then get a dog that should have its own name and standard. What ever that may be. If your going to do it give it a name that isn't already allocated for another dog and develop it into a standard. It is the way it is properly done. I understand some pounds over and under even an inch or two of hight varience but to be +/- 3 inches and over/under 10 pounds is un-acceptable. UPF lets you pull using dogs of various breeds go with them. Develope your breeds and go with it. I am not for or against that. Breeding a mutt and putting it as a pure blood I am not for. It is a form of cheating in my book. Just like taking a donkey and a horse. Mix them you get a mule. Not the fore mentioned.
IT'S STILL A POODLE!!!:)

[Evil_Elvis]

there are 3 different poodle "breeds" based on size.. Toy Poodles, Minature Poodles and Standard Poodles


Yes, every breed is a combination of "other" dogs ..but just adding this or that doesnt make it a breed. In order to be considered a breed " it must be shown that mating a pair of that type always produces dogs that have the same characteristics as the parents, usually both in appearance and in behavior. This is known as breeding true. " wikipedia.org ..

All dogs are bred for certain characteristics. Once you start changing the characteristics within a breed IT IS NO LONGER THE SAME BREED

[truegames]

Some of you people on here seem just as bad as those stereotyping our dogs.....Shame on you! As someone above me mentioned that a poodle of different size should be classified a different kind of dog and not a poodle. How do you figure? ? Thats like saying a little person, which is still a human should be called something else other than human cuz they're small. From what I understand (from reading here) is that the APBT was originated froma mix of several dogs...so there IS no such thing as pure
A little person is called something else haven't you heard of midgets and dwarfs.

[short1]

A little person is called something else haven't you heard of midgets and dwarfs.hey I resemble that remark

[firestarter]

A little person is called something else haven't you heard of midgets and dwarfs.
Still a human.....still a poodle

[GSDbulldog]

Ok, so, assuming that no other breed was mixed in, but they were soley bred for color or size for "decades", how does that make them APBTs?

When AmStaffs were created, no other breed went into them. Yet AmStaffs and APBTs are now vastly different. Why can't it be the case here? Why do owners of dogs who don't even remotely resemble APBTs want to call them so?

[Grim]

What I think is interesting is how so many on here really dislike the larger blue dogs/mutts or whatever they are. Yet there are more of them running around then what many see as true APBTs. The younger croud ecspecially are into them, my friend got a mutt from miami big thick dog. I think more people would prefer a mutt that has a tough/mean look to it (worng reason to ever own a dog obviously) but we all know it is true. Thats why these dogs are so popular and I see them all the time. I ask what they are mixed with and they seem confused. I ecspecially love the answer to the blood line..."miami blue", or "American red nose". Good stuff, but all in all everyone has their tastes and bashing someones dog is not going to prevent these dogs from being bred and sold out of a local paper by a 'certified dog breeder'....That lost the papers on the dogs and the health test.

[Hoss]

The reason a lot of people dislike the Blue Hippo's, is the name that they are being called.. They do not deserve to be called APBT's, and its a crying shame that they are being labelled as APBT's.. So much of the BSL can be blamed on cross bred dogs, having human aggression, and being called APBT's, or other bulldogs. A lot of us have lost dogs, or have to play by crazy rules now, just to keep our dogs, and some of that reason is the Hippo's...
The APBT is the most incredible canine in the world, to a lot of us, and to have the name disgraced by huge, puppy milled, curs, also makes a bit of resentment towards them.

I could care less about the Hippos, but please, please, call them what they are, if you feel the need, call them some other breed, but leave the APBT name to the real thing.

[Grim]

I agree completely, but I don't see any end to the hippos popularity in the future. You have people growing up with the hippo being what they think a APBT should look like. In all fact it is a mutt

[NcPrisonGuard]

I'm a big fan of whatever floats your boat... you like a true APBT.. great get you one. You like a short stubby "hippo" great buy yourself 2.. like them both get one of each. I don't care. But I am curious I hate putting down anyone's dog.. stubby or not. But I agree it isn't an APBT.. so then what would you label it to not be derogatory toward someone's personal preference.. like gangsta for example?

[truegames]

What I think is interesting is how so many on here really dislike the larger blue dogs/mutts or whatever they are. Yet there are more of them running around then what many see as true APBTs. The younger croud ecspecially are into them, my friend got a mutt from miami big thick dog. I think more people would prefer a mutt that has a tough/mean look to it (worng reason to ever own a dog obviously) but we all know it is true. Thats why these dogs are so popular and I see them all the time. I ask what they are mixed with and they seem confused. I ecspecially love the answer to the blood line..."miami blue", or "American red nose". Good stuff, but all in all everyone has their tastes and bashing someones dog is not going to prevent these dogs from being bred and sold out of a local paper by a 'certified dog breeder'....That lost the papers on the dogs and the health test.
The only reason you see more of these mutts is because these idiots that have them take them everywhere with them to make their self look big and bad there are more true apbt out there than you could imagine

[Attila]

Still a human.....still a poodle
oh no human is right but not a poodle, human and dog.

but we have races and sizes and so on. Still in the human species but not the same at all. A goat and a sheep look allot allike but they can't produce live offspring. So close looking yet so vastly different. Different enough to produce still born offspring. And even if they ever did survive they would be steril. Not the case in dog breeds but things can be just as vastly different.

[Grim]

The only reason you see more of these mutts is because these idiots that have them take them everywhere with them to make their self look big and bad there are more true apbt out there than you could imagineThat is good to know

[miakoda]

HOSS!! It's "TessieLou" from across the way (hint: your no longer there...but I haven't been banned again....yet ;) ). Great to see you here!

[purplepig]

Now this is a blue APBT (thank you tnob ;) ) :

http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/2/3/8/8/rileytba.jpg
breed the above dog to this dog
http://www.game-dog.com/gallery/files/1/6/2/1/PIC00001_471837.jpg

and you get this dog
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/oboykennels/7-16-06083.jpg
That there top dog is out of proportion.

[purplepig]

Still a human.....still a poodle
well, actually, your crossing species with this analogy. People are people, with different races, and dogs are dogs with different breeds. so we cant use this one. There should be another analogy you can use, but the "people" one doesnt work.

[purplepig]

What I think is interesting is how so many on here really dislike the larger blue dogs/mutts or whatever they are. Yet there are more of them running around then what many see as true APBTs. The younger croud ecspecially are into them, my friend got a mutt from miami big thick dog. I think more people would prefer a mutt that has a tough/mean look to it (worng reason to ever own a dog obviously) but we all know it is true. Thats why these dogs are so popular and I see them all the time. I ask what they are mixed with and they seem confused. I ecspecially love the answer to the blood line..."miami blue", or "American red nose". Good stuff, but all in all everyone has their tastes and bashing someones dog is not going to prevent these dogs from being bred and sold out of a local paper by a 'certified dog breeder'....That lost the papers on the dogs and the health test.
What's really amazing is how many folks will bash the blue dogs, go along with the ones bashing and such, and be sitting right there with one at their feet or in their yard!! It is worse than church people! JK, (I am a preacher).

[Grim]

I like the use of the pictures, yet so many deny they are mutts. That first pic is such a good looking dog

[Diesel]

Poodles?... Humans?... I think I need to go back and read all these posts before I say anything... (what the hell are you guys talking about:confused: )

[pitbull0555]

Diesel,

How is your blue dog around other dogs?

[Diesel]

Hates them with a passion. Diesel is VERY dog aggressive... I mean VERY VERY dog aggressive. When we go to bully events there is a little halo that is around us, some of the dogs there can be right next to each other and some cant. Diesel is one that not only cant you come near but because there can be a sudden rush if the other dog makes even the slightest bit of eye contact(not many try to hold his gaze) and due to his size he can usually get a few feet out pretty fast. but it will really get his temper up, so there is about 10 feet in every direction cleared out. He can be a bit of a "asshole" pardon my french. But its what we have come to expect from the "breed" so I am prepared for (and used to) it.
Its funny to see him when he sees another dog; he will immeditaely puff up and walk on his toes and the tail stops wagging. He will put on this ice cold stare and you can see his muscles twitching as he stares. then if the other dog starts staring back or barks at him then the tail starts wagging again, High pitched whinning, deep gutteral growls... he goes through some heavy trauma everytime he sees another dog. I used to think he was okay with puppies but that was before he drug a huge 12 foot picnic table across the park to get to his son. No, Diesel is definately not good when it comes to playing with other dogs... unless by others you mean adult females.
Loves every person he has ever met but dogs are a definate no-go.

[Attila]

What's really amazing is how many folks will bash the blue dogs, go along with the ones bashing and such, and be sitting right there with one at their feet or in their yard!! It is worse than church people! JK, (I am a preacher).
Ha you're a preacher and I am a preachers son. We need more preachers with APBT that is for sure.

[purplepig]

Ha you're a preacher and I am a preachers son. We need more preachers with APBT that is for sure.
AMEN! Well God wants his children to have the very best he has to offer, so that is why I have APBT!!LOL

[tnob]

Purple pig, you think that dog is out of proportion? I have a few trophies and ribbons that say otherwise!

[purplepig]

Purple pig, you think that dog is out of proportion? I have a few trophies and ribbons that say otherwise!
And that means what to me? All a ribbon is, is someone else's opinion. I am sorry that I offended you, but that is my opinion, and they are like butt holes. Dont like it, stick around, another will pop up, then you'll be happy with what you have. I personally feel that with a head that size, the shoulders/chest should be alittle larger. So I would not have hung the ribbon on that dog. Sorry.

[Attila]

That there top dog is out of proportion.
Ah I think what sets it off like that is the way the collar is being pulled up on to put him in stance. He for sure is ripped and in real good shape. But you're right it is all about oppinions. Ya have to admit it looks better than the other two dogs in the post. lol those are damn ugly. Reminds me of fat bastard lol. I am always amazed at how trim some can get their dogs. I hunt allot so the dogs are fit but have some extra just to take the elements of the hunt. Running coyotes can take hours and hours. Bear I have not done in a while but it could take intire days to track them. Or what ever else I was being paid to hunt. After going on that hog hunt with BamaBoy I am pumped about that. Any way if you're going to have a blue dog it should look more like that than the bottom one. That thing looks like it was shot up with botox lol.

[tnob]

And that means what to me? All a ribbon is, is someone else's opinion. I am sorry that I offended you, but that is my opinion, and they are like butt holes. Dont like it, stick around, another will pop up, then you'll be happy with what you have. I personally feel that with a head that size, the shoulders/chest should be alittle larger. So I would not have hung the ribbon on that dog. Sorry.
LOL! Its your opinion, Ill give you that. There are some members on this board that have seen this dog in person, and will tell you it is not a big headed dog. It may be the way Im holding for the pic. Not offended at all though its cool.

[Diesel]

Well I sdont personally feel that my dog is "damn ugly" or "shot up with botox" but whatever floats your boat. a simple "Hes not my style." would be more than sufficient. Attilla you are damn close to offending me right now. Lets not forget that I have had this boy most of his life and he is a very LOVED part of my family. Lets keep the insults to a minimum. This isnt some random dog pulled off the web, this is MY dog.
He is actually pretty trim... you cant go counting his ribs just by looking but they are easily felt when you touch him. He has never once stopped on me, no matter what task I set up for him he is at it until its done, or until I stop him. Everytime.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/TheVILLAIN/3-04-2006-dtoy045.jpg

[NcPrisonGuard]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/TheVILLAIN/3-04-2006-dtoy045.jpg
Dunno and don't care about anyone else's opinion's but its a fine looking dog to me.

[Attila]

[QUOTE=Diesel]Well I sdont personally feel that my dog is "damn ugly" or "shot up with botox" but whatever floats your boat. a simple "Hes not my style." would be more than sufficient. Attilla you are damn close to offending me right now. Lets not forget that I have had this boy most of his life and he is a very LOVED part of my family. Lets keep the insults to a minimum. This isnt some random dog pulled off the web, this is MY dog.
He is actually pretty trim... you cant go counting his ribs just by looking but they are easily felt when you touch him. He has never once stopped on me, no matter what task I set up for him he is at it until its done, or until I stop


Cool dude. I am glad you love your dog. Really I am. Don't read me the wrong way dude. Whe have three dogs in the deal One APBT, a ABD, and the last one I don't know what breed that was of those three dogs the only owner out of the three that is on this site that has one of them is Tnob. now the dog at the bottom was not yours nore the one in the middle so I am not sure why your so close to having me offend you about the botox comment. Unless they are your dogs. Then if so I am sorry to have hurt you feelings. You have a nice dog. I am glad he is a good pet for you and your family. The pictures you have presented you dog doesn't look puffy like the one in the add it up post. so sorry.

[The Watcher]

my dog likes to eat tires too, jus wanted to show him off! :p

[Attila]

my dog likes to eat tires too, jus wanted to show him off! :p
Now that is a fine looking dog.

[The Watcher]

Thanks Attila. :) Now that is a fine looking dog.

[short1]

I concur nice Thanks Attila. :)

[Attila]

Thanks Attila. :)
Hey no problem that is one fine looking dog and you deserve the credit for that. I love a good looking dog. That is a fine example of how our breed should look. I give the credit where credit is due.

[Defend2DaEnd]

As someone who unfortunately last two dogs are mutts. A gotti pos and a mix breed dog I want to say that you won't often hear me say my dog is an APBT. He is FAR from 90 pounds he is 46 lbs fat and at the moment 44 lbs lean I'm not sure about conditioning because at his age I haven't even tried. All I can say is when people say is that a pit I often shrug my shoulders and more often say "Nope he is a Bluff". I have NOTHING against these dogs EXCEPT for the fact that they are called APBTs when they aren't. IT doesn't walk, talk or act like a duck why should it be called a duck? And if it somewhat walks, talks or acts like a mallard duck but is not a mallard duck why call it a mallard duck? Diesel your dogs are nice the pups are HUGE WAY TO BIG for me. The pups in the background of that picture DO look like mastiffs to me the mom looks pregnant again or fat or something???? Blue is a pretty color on a dog but blue should be a color like any other not THE color.

[The Watcher]

Thanks. I dont really like all the tire shakin', snarlin' and lungin' pics. BUT, (well... no buts) he is jus so freakin incredible and I saw the easy link between the tire thing.. well need I say more? :rolleyes: Hey no problem that is one fine looking dog and you deserve the credit for that. I love a good looking dog. That is a fine example of how our breed should look. I give the credit where credit is due.

[Attila]

Thanks. I dont really like all the tire shakin', snarlin' and lungin' pics. BUT, (well... no buts) he is jus so freakin incredible and I saw the easy link between the tire thing.. well need I say more? :rolleyes:
Say no more I think I just pushed you up to the third bar on rep. lol well deserved I say. http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif thanks for posting that amazing dog.

[The Watcher]

yeesh, yeesh... I have an spectacular aura now! ;) Say no more I think I just pushed you up to the third bar on rep. lol well deserved I say. http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif thanks for posting that amazing dog.

[kane85]

good looking dog

[kane85]

diesel dont worry about what people say its just a diffrent opinons if you were to take your dog to an aadr show it would not win they would say get that lazy fat dog out of here but if any of these guys take there game dogs to a bully show they will get made fun of saying dame what are you doing bringing that skinny dog over here you need to go home and feed him .dont get me wrong iam a fan of game dogs but you see something that looks good you have to admit to it he dose look good i admit to it for being that size.just keep working hard on him and keep posting more pics.

[Diesel]

Okay here is what you wrote in your post-
Ah I think what sets it off like that is the way the collar is being pulled up on to put him in stance. He for sure is ripped and in real good shape. But you're right it is all about oppinions. Ya have to admit it looks better than the other two dogs in the post. lol those are damn ugly. Reminds me of fat bastard lol. I am always amazed at how trim some can get their dogs. I hunt allot so the dogs are fit but have some extra just to take the elements of the hunt. Running coyotes can take hours and hours. Bear I have not done in a while but it could take intire days to track them. Or what ever else I was being paid to hunt. After going on that hog hunt with BamaBoy I am pumped about that. Any way if you're going to have a blue dog it should look more like that than the bottom one. That thing looks like it was shot up with botox lol.and here is the dog that you wrote it about.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/oboykennels/7-16-06083.jpg
That is the exact same dog that is laying at my feet right now.
Again try to be sensitive to what you say as the dog that you poke and prod at is my best friend and a trusted part of my family.

[rocco]

I'm a big fan of whatever floats your boat... you like a true APBT.. great get you one. You like a short stubby "hippo" great buy yourself 2.. like them both get one of each. I don't care. But I am curious I hate putting down anyone's dog.. stubby or not. But I agree it isn't an APBT.. so then what would you label it to not be derogatory toward someone's personal preference.. like gangsta for example?

Can anyone answer this I am curious as well?

And since tnob's dog is considered "true apbt" is it because of the smaller size and definition?

No disrespect to anyone just would like to be enlightened.

[Defend2DaEnd]

ROCCO- the original American Pit Bull Terriers were mostly bred to be smaller, easier to feed, easier to hide in case they were busted by the law, they were kept muscular for purpose. Today they are kept that way because dogs aren't often used for their original purpose but that doesn't mean we should change their looks. Like a standard poodle was used as a water retreiver and are often seen with the cuts used when they were water retreivers to keep their joints warm. You don't see 100 lb poodles because it is unhealthy on the type of bones. The breeders are messing with genetics to make a dog look how they want it to look ebcause they think its cool to have dogs with HUGE heads, low to the ground, odd proportions and somewhat disfunctional looking. Now I'm not saying Diesel's dog is odd he has some major faults and he has admitted that he does. I'm just saying he does not meet the original standards at all. He looks like a total different breed than the original Pit dogs. I like all dogs I've just come to dislike people calling things that they have something they are not and trust me I have gotten into arguments in real life over peoples dogs not being what they call them. It may be illegal to use Pit Bulls for fighting but its also illegal to use American Bulldoges for bull baiting or bear baiting and they still mostly resemble their more original counterparts. Except for the showie type dogs which is where the AmStaffs come in for APBTs. We already ran out a flashier heavier dog why try it again.

[rocco]

ROCCO- the original American Pit Bull Terriers were mostly bred to be smaller, easier to feed, easier to hide in case they were busted by the law, they were kept muscular for purpose. Today they are kept that way because dogs aren't often used for their original purpose but that doesn't mean we should change their looks. Like a standard poodle was used as a water retreiver and are often seen with the cuts used when they were water retreivers to keep their joints warm. You don't see 100 lb poodles because it is unhealthy on the type of bones. The breeders are messing with genetics to make a dog look how they want it to look ebcause they think its cool to have dogs with HUGE heads, low to the ground, odd proportions and somewhat disfunctional looking. Now I'm not saying Diesel's dog is odd he has some major faults and he has admitted that he does. I'm just saying he does not meet the original standards at all. He looks like a total different breed than the original Pit dogs. I like all dogs I've just come to dislike people calling things that they have something they are not and trust me I have gotten into arguments in real life over peoples dogs not being what they call them. It may be illegal to use Pit Bulls for fighting but its also illegal to use American Bulldoges for bull baiting or bear baiting and they still mostly resemble their more original counterparts. Except for the showie type dogs which is where the AmStaffs come in for APBTs. We already ran out a flashier heavier dog why try it again.
I understand the purpose and reason for the size of the breed, but my question is category. If it isn't small like 50# then it is not apbt? If a game bred dog that was bred for that purpose and has proven true apbt by those standards puts on weight and becomes 90# do you call it something different?

[firestarter]

Diesel....seriously, dont listen to any of these stupid-asses who say your dog isnt TRUE just cuz he's not to their liking. Just enjoy your dog and know there's people out there that think he looks great:)

[davidlau_2002]

Dunno and don't care about anyone else's opinion's but its a fine looking dog to me.would this comparison be equivalent?

well built bully style blue( mustafa the bodybuilder)

and well kept apbt (manny pacquiao) 130 lb. multi-belt champion?

diesel's dog ain't my type of hard liquor but i admit his muscle build is impressive compared to other dogs of this look. damn watcher, your dog is my flavor though. can i get a double shot of that with a coke on the side? one

[Defend2DaEnd]

I don't think there'd be a reason for a 50# dog to get up to 90#. Why feed a whole lotta huge dogs when you can feed the real stuff for cheaper and have more quality more quantity.

Also to the person who called me a stupid ass-I never said his dog was ugly or anything I just don't think he is a Pit Bull. It's not necessarily weight, it's proportion and weight distribution. I'm tired can't spell going to bed, goodnight.

[LegendsMami]

I think your dog is handsome. Not all blues are lazy or fat. Theres someone on another pitbull forum that has a blue and white and the dog is beautiful and has won several titles. I personally like both game bred and bully style. But dont like game breds where you can see all of their ribs, and I dont like extra short 90+ lb. pits either.

[davidlau_2002]

I think your dog is handsome. Not all blues are lazy or fat. Theres someone on another pitbull forum that has a blue and white and the dog is beautiful and has won several titles. I personally like both game bred and bully style. But dont like game breds where you can see all of their ribs, and I dont like extra short 90+ lb. pits either.in cali those extra short ones are called lowriders. lol. no wait. seriously. low riders.

[PirbulBongo]

Anyone has link for the movie on youtube.com?

I loved that movie but cant find atm hah.

[miakoda]

Diesel....seriously, dont listen to any of these stupid-asses who say your dog isnt TRUE just cuz he's not to their liking. Just enjoy your dog and know there's people out there that think he looks great:)
I prefer to be called a bitch over a "stupid ass" please. Thanks.

And as for calling it not "true" b/c he's not to our liking, well, that's not right either. We say he's not an APBT because nothing about him fits the standard. All this "but he's proportioned" crap is just mumbo jumbo that someone made up to try & justify their 100lb dog. He's not bred to do what an APBT is bred to do, he's not bred to look like an APBT should look like, therefore he's not an APBT.

I never said he was an ugly dog. I never said I hated the dog. I think the dog is cute....for what it is & it isn't an APBT. And to label him as such is only someone's attempt to ride the historic & prestigious reputation of the true APBT while having the "cool & badass" looks of a fashion accessory that can gain you rep points in the neighborhood.

[rocco]

I don't think there'd be a reason for a 50# dog to get up to 90#. Why feed a whole lotta huge dogs when you can feed the real stuff for cheaper and have more quality more quantity.

Also to the person who called me a stupid ass-I never said his dog was ugly or anything I just don't think he is a Pit Bull. It's not necessarily weight, it's proportion and weight distribution. I'm tired can't spell going to bed, goodnight.
yeah but you didn't answer the question, you commented on one portion of it.

seems there is just a prejudice and a fight to keep the dog one way and if there is any deviation from that plan all and their deviations can't be part of the gang.
which you all have that right to, I just would like some clarification from this forum of vast knowledge. please. i said please.

[Attila]

Okay here is what you wrote in your post-
and here is the dog that you wrote it about.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/oboykennels/7-16-06083.jpg
That is the exact same dog that is laying at my feet right now.
Again try to be sensitive to what you say as the dog that you poke and prod at is my best friend and a trusted part of my family.
OK. dude I am sorry I think your dog looks puffy and over weight. Didn't say it to hurth your feelings. For pete's sakes it is an oppinion. Just like yours that the dog is in prime shape and is a prime example of what ever breed it is. He couldn't be more fit. Does that make you feel better? I am sure you love your dog and he loves you. You take a good look at that photo and tell me he is in the prime shape that he could be and that he doesn't look bloated and puffy. If so then great be happy dude I didn't tell you to put him to sleep or even have him fixed. Many others wouldn't grant you that much curtisy. Don't get upset about it. I was actually quite civil about it. I don't see how me thinking the dog is too heavey and looks puffy should be so offensive to you. Do you think I cry when some one says my dog looks too small or what not? hell now. I don't post my dogs in threads and ask what any one thinks of them. Why? because they are perfect to me and I don't get messed up because some one doesn't like my dogs. Hell son you have to hear worse just walking your dog around from people pulling their kidds back calling our dogs monsters. Tighten up bro and get some thicker skin. I can't believe the botox statement bothers you that much. Sorry I hurt your feelings.

[Attila]

yeah but you didn't answer the question, you commented on one portion of it.

seems there is just a prejudice and a fight to keep the dog one way and if there is any deviation from that plan all and their deviations can't be part of the gang.
which you all have that right to, I just would like some clarification from this forum of vast knowledge. please. i said please.
I'll tag that. Yes we are dead set on maintaining the standard of the breed. True and true. Prejudice? nah it is called pride. Deviations fitting in. No they don't. Does not mean they are bad dogs or worthless. To a point that is. It isn't a gang. It is a Creed of the Breed. You see for generations we have kept this dog with in some basic limitations of Standard. To breed out of it is counter productive and doesn't preserve the beauty and nature of this breed. Crossing makes another breed period. Why move from more than a hundred years of perfection to something different? If you don't like the standard get another breed that you do like. Shit son it isn't that complicated. People get so upset when others who hold true to the old ways don't take them in. Why is that? You are trying to stuff some mix breed in our face and expect us to like it? Hell no. That is as offensive as gender benders telling us we must accept them too. No one should be forced to accept a damn thing. If you like your mix breed be happy with the little bastards. But don't piss and moan because we don't. That isn't Russia. You can stay you can leave and you can voice your oppinions on dogs. Be prepared to back it up or pack it up. I am happy as a lark either way. I never seen such belly aching over someone not liking mutts. Why don't you all develop your own breed set some standard and go for it? Now that is the most logical approach to this delima for you.

[miakoda]

If you don't like the standard get another breed that you do like. Shit son it isn't that complicated. And that, my dears, sums it up. Rep points to you for stating the obvious as plainly as can be.

[Attila]

And that, my dears, sums it up. Rep points to you for stating the obvious as plainly as can be.
Thanks, that is very kind of you. thank you very much.http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif

[LegendsMami]

in cali those extra short ones are called lowriders. lol. no wait. seriously. low riders.
LOL. Low riders?!! Thats crazy. lol

[davidlau_2002]

OK. dude I am sorry I think your dog looks puffy and over weight. Didn't say it to hurth your feelings. For pete's sakes it is an oppinion. Just like yours that the dog is in prime shape and is a prime example of what ever breed it is. He couldn't be more fit. Does that make you feel better? I am sure you love your dog and he loves you. You take a good look at that photo and tell me he is in the prime shape that he could be and that he doesn't look bloated and puffy. If so then great be happy dude I didn't tell you to put him to sleep or even have him fixed. Many others wouldn't grant you that much curtisy. Don't get upset about it. I was actually quite civil about it. I don't see how me thinking the dog is too heavey and looks puffy should be so offensive to you. Do you think I cry when some one says my dog looks too small or what not? hell now. I don't post my dogs in threads and ask what any one thinks of them. Why? because they are perfect to me and I don't get messed up because some one doesn't like my dogs. Hell son you have to hear worse just walking your dog around from people pulling their kidds back calling our dogs monsters. Tighten up bro and get some thicker skin. I can't believe the botox statement bothers you that much. Sorry I hurt your feelings.i agree with attila. grow some thicker skin. when you put yourself out there for criticism, be man enough to take the weight. i concur with the idea that you don't ask others to help you with your own knob polishing. a real man does that himself. wait........that didn't sound right. i'm still stuck on that sexyme intro. okay attila, put me out of my misery with the 30_ot.

[MR BIGGS]

For his size, he's in damn good shape and looks mighty fine.
Well I sdont personally feel that my dog is "damn ugly" or "shot up with botox" but whatever floats your boat. a simple "Hes not my style." would be more than sufficient. Attilla you are damn close to offending me right now. Lets not forget that I have had this boy most of his life and he is a very LOVED part of my family. Lets keep the insults to a minimum. This isnt some random dog pulled off the web, this is MY dog.
He is actually pretty trim... you cant go counting his ribs just by looking but they are easily felt when you touch him. He has never once stopped on me, no matter what task I set up for him he is at it until its done, or until I stop him. Everytime.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/TheVILLAIN/3-04-2006-dtoy045.jpg

[rocco]

I'll tag that. Yes we are dead set on maintaining the standard of the breed. True and true. Prejudice? nah it is called pride. Deviations fitting in. No they don't. Does not mean they are bad dogs or worthless. To a point that is. It isn't a gang. It is a Creed of the Breed. You see for generations we have kept this dog with in some basic limitations of Standard. To breed out of it is counter productive and doesn't preserve the beauty and nature of this breed. Crossing makes another breed period. Why move from more than a hundred years of perfection to something different? If you don't like the standard get another breed that you do like. Shit son it isn't that complicated. People get so upset when others who hold true to the old ways don't take them in. Why is that? You are trying to stuff some mix breed in our face and expect us to like it? Hell no. That is as offensive as gender benders telling us we must accept them too. No one should be forced to accept a damn thing. If you like your mix breed be happy with the little bastards. But don't piss and moan because we don't. That isn't Russia. You can stay you can leave and you can voice your oppinions on dogs. Be prepared to back it up or pack it up. I am happy as a lark either way. I never seen such belly aching over someone not liking mutts. Why don't you all develop your own breed set some standard and go for it? Now that is the most logical approach to this delima for you.

Ok didn't maybe I didn't word my question right. I love the standard I was raised around this and it's performance and yes keep it this way.

But I guess what I am looking for is a yes or no answer to this scenario: if my game bred ch that is 50# gains up to 90# -for wateva reason- do you not still call him a true apbt or apbt for that matter? or does he have to become another breed?

Reason I ask this is because where I am from dogs are bred within standard and respected as such, but everynow and then my uncle would sell one of his to a friend or so and they wouldn't keep the dog in the pit they would just keep him on the yard and put weight on him.
Just recently I found this site and have been reading from post to post and topic to topic thats why I asked the question? Thats why I said what I said. I said it the way I did so I could get a detailed explanation but to end with a yes or no all I got was the previous posts. Hope I didn't ruffle feathers too far, just an enquiring mind.

Thanks for all comments though

[davidlau_2002]

Ok didn't maybe I didn't word my question right. I love the standard I was raised around this and it's performance and yes keep it this way.

But I guess what I am looking for is a yes or no answer to this scenario: if my game bred ch that is 50# gains up to 90# -for wateva reason- do you not still call him a true apbt or apbt for that matter? or does he have to become another breed?

Tell me you are seriously not asking for an answer to this question.

Reason I ask this is because where I am from dogs are bred within standard and respected as such, but everynow and then my uncle would sell one of his to a friend or so and they wouldn't keep the dog in the pit they would just keep him on the yard and put weight on him.
Just recently I found this site and have been reading from post to post and topic to topic thats why I asked the question? Thats why I said what I said. I said it the way I did so I could get a detailed explanation but to end with a yes or no all I got was the previous posts. Hope I didn't ruffle feathers too far, just an enquiring mind.

Thanks for all comments thoughthen you can answer your own question then. if a dog is healthy and lean at 50 lbs. and SHOULD stay around that weight, what do you think is the answer? i think you are trying to trick yourself, my friend.

eg: does a fat guy get charged double for getting into a movie theatre?

[rocco]

then you can answer your own question then. if a dog is healthy and lean at 50 lbs. and SHOULD stay around that weight, what do you think is the answer? i think you are trying to trick yourself, my friend.

eg: does a fat guy get charged double for getting into a movie theatre?

yes i am, it's still the same dog why can't i call it an apbt

just cause he gained weight

[davidlau_2002]

yes i am, it's still the same dog why can't i call it an apbt

just cause he gained weighthe WOULD be called a apbt. the owner would be called DETRIMENTAL since s/he is WASTING the dog and its ability to improve the breed. the point is not that the dog can't be considered apbt due to overfeeding but that it naturally grows to that size and doesn't have the characteristics or drive of a game bred. sorry for being so rude. i just couldn't fathom how you could be seriously asking that without thinking about it first.

[BoiBoi]

Ok didn't maybe I didn't word my question right. I love the standard I was raised around this and it's performance and yes keep it this way.

But I guess what I am looking for is a yes or no answer to this scenario: if my game bred ch that is 50# gains up to 90# -for wateva reason- do you not still call him a true apbt or apbt for that matter? or does he have to become another breed?

Reason I ask this is because where I am from dogs are bred within standard and respected as such, but everynow and then my uncle would sell one of his to a friend or so and they wouldn't keep the dog in the pit they would just keep him on the yard and put weight on him.
Just recently I found this site and have been reading from post to post and topic to topic thats why I asked the question? Thats why I said what I said. I said it the way I did so I could get a detailed explanation but to end with a yes or no all I got was the previous posts. Hope I didn't ruffle feathers too far, just an enquiring mind.

Thanks for all comments though
Sure u can call the dog that went from 50# to 90# an apbt just remember to add in the fat part. A dog that weighs 50# and looks very lean and muscular will look like a damn beer keg if it went up to 90#, its all about the dogs structure. The true apbt has a smaller overall frame structure than these large bluffs. Some of them might look good at 90# but that is because they have larger breed structure in their genes to make them look right at that size. Take the american bulldog for instance, they run around the 90-100# range but they look right because of the structure, but a 50# dog going to 90# is just rediculous

[rocco]

he WOULD be called a apbt. the owner would be called DETRIMENTAL since s/he is WASTING the dog and its ability to improve the breed. the point is not that the dog can't be considered apbt due to overfeeding but that it naturally grows to that size and doesn't have the characteristics or drive of a game bred. sorry for being so rude. i just couldn't fathom how you could be seriously asking that without thinking about it first.
I did think about it thats why I asked. From reading through this site it just seemed like noone wanted to call them apbt anymore.

this is the exact answer i wanted thanks a bunch
and rudeness don't worry about it usually when you piss someone off about something they hold a lot of pride in they express their views and will add proof.

it was just a question, i just wanted it answered

thanks again, hopefully i can stay around and learn something i don't already know

[rocco]

Sure u can call the dog that went from 50# to 90# an apbt just remember to add in the fat part. A dog that weighs 50# and looks very lean and muscular will look like a damn beer keg if it went up to 90#, its all about the dogs structure. The true apbt has a smaller overall frame structure than these large bluffs. Some of them might look good at 90# but that is because they have larger breed structure in their genes to make them look right at that size. Take the american bulldog for instance, they run around the 90-100# range but they look right because of the structure, but a 50# dog going to 90# is just rediculous


Thanks BoiBoi

[firestarter]

I prefer to be called a bitch over a "stupid ass" please. Thanks.

And as for calling it not "true" b/c he's not to our liking, well, that's not right either. We say he's not an APBT because nothing about him fits the standard. All this "but he's proportioned" crap is just mumbo jumbo that someone made up to try & justify their 100lb dog. He's not bred to do what an APBT is bred to do, he's not bred to look like an APBT should look like, therefore he's not an APBT.

I never said he was an ugly dog. I never said I hated the dog. I think the dog is cute....for what it is & it isn't an APBT. And to label him as such is only someone's attempt to ride the historic & prestigious reputation of the true APBT while having the "cool & badass" looks of a fashion accessory that can gain you rep points in the neighborhood.
How can you tell what this particular dog was bred to do just by looking at him?? I doubt you're that good!;) He's obviously in very good shape. You say he's not a "real" APBT...OK, if that makes you feel better. I think Diesel posted this thread and the pics of his very active dog so that people could see that not all blues are fat and lazy

[miakoda]

If one is not looking to cause controversy, then why doesn't one stick to posting pics in the gallery where they belong instead of posting pics in threads (despite everyone being asked not to) & making statements solely to instigate arguments.

[firestarter]

If one is not looking to cause controversy, then why doesn't one stick to posting pics in the gallery where they belong instead of posting pics in threads (despite everyone being asked not to) & making statements solely to instigate arguments.
Not everyone spends all their time looking in the gallery. I really dont think his intentions were to instigate an argument. He seems proud of his dog...and with every right to. If you dont have anything positive to say (not to mention contribute to the argument) then perhaps you shouldnt say it:D

[LegendsMami]

Not everyone spends all their time looking in the gallery. I really dont think his intentions were to instigate an argument. He seems proud of his dog...and with every right to. If you dont have anything positive to say (not to mention contribute to the argument) then perhaps you shouldnt say it:D
I agree. Why insult someone when you just dont have to reply at all. I know alot of people on here are game bred dog people but if its not what u like just keep it moving to the next thread no need to reply.:)

[420puffer]

Not everyone spends all their time looking in the gallery. I really dont think his intentions were to instigate an argument. He seems proud of his dog...and with every right to. If you dont have anything positive to say (not to mention contribute to the argument) then perhaps you shouldnt say it:DMia has the right to be a biT*h. Just her opinion... let the woman speak her mind.

[firestarter]

Mia has the right to be a biT*h. Just her opinion... let the woman speak her mind.
She said that he posted just to instigate an argument...how can she come to that conclusion? She must be a mind reader(or a thinks-she-knows-it-all).

[420puffer]

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[14rock]

I understand the purpose and reason for the size of the breed, but my question is category. If it isn't small like 50# then it is not apbt? If a game bred dog that was bred for that purpose and has proven true apbt by those standards puts on weight and becomes 90# do you call it something different?Well, look at it this way. If you are a boxer, say weighing 200 lbs...and almost double your size, would you still call yourself a boxer, after gaining 200 lbs. and now weighing 400? You might be able to continue throwing punches for 5 mins, but you wont be worth a shit with that much extra weight.

[Diesel]

get thicker skin... so if you posted a picture of your child sharing how proud you were and i immediately started ripping on your kid. you wouldnt be offened?

You are entitled to your opinion, this is still america... but what I am talking about is the way you mock and disrespect MY dog.. in the thread that I started out of pride. I cant fathom ever doing that to anyone... no matter what I thought about thier dog. Like I said pages ago a simple "he is not my style" would suffice just fine.

Now I wonder what will happen when I start ripping on others... will i get rep points fo rit or will i get banned... hmmmmm theres a real thinker.

[miakoda]

She said that he posted just to instigate an argument...how can she come to that conclusion? She must be a mind reader(or a thinks-she-knows-it-all).LOL. I do know it all, or rather, I do know the sites rules & what we ask of members & that is to please post your pics in the gallery. If we didn't want them there instead of in new threads, why in the hell would Shon have gone to all the trouble to make on?

And I've got thick skin so you can call me anything you want.

As for starting shit, the op posted this statement "Who wants a lazy, fat, blue hippo?" & then posted pics trying to prove that his dog is not what many refer to as a hippo but rather is a good example of the breed. It doesn't take a genius to see he was looking for controversy. If he wasn't, why not just say "More pics of Diesel' or "Here's Diesel again".................

[miakoda]

r will i get banned...
No one will ban you for it. If people wanted you gone, you would've been gone a long time ago. Say whatever the hell you want to.

[LegendsMami]

Some of you guys can be quite rude.

I dont think he was trying to start anything by posting "Who wants a lazy, fat, blue hippo?" as the title. I think it was more for just a laugh. Not for people to start bashing his dog. It's really not that serious people!

[miakoda]

Thread closed. Enough bullshit already. Unless you are new & introducing yourself & your dog, use the gallery. It's why Shon went to all that trouble putting one in.2