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chuckdog_5
07-02-2006, 04:02 PM
hey guys, im glad to be on the site and i am a huge pit lover. First off, i would like any suggestions on what to feed the guy, i want him to be huge, as in muscular, not fat. ive heard of a lot of ways to train them but just want some more suggestions, so lets here guys, thanks
charles
chrisgr212
07-02-2006, 04:10 PM
hey guys, im glad to be on the site and i am a huge pit lover. First off, i would like any suggestions on what to feed the guy, i want him to be huge, as in muscular, not fat. ive heard of a lot of ways to train them but just want some more suggestions, so lets here guys, thanks
charles www.dogfoodanalysis.com
just give him your love!!!
houstonapbt
07-02-2006, 06:03 PM
Let's hear those ways you've heard of conditioning...
i dont know what to make of this question. i dont know if i should get a flame suit or find the hippo video.
why is being HUGE so important to you?
PIT_DOMINATION
07-02-2006, 06:50 PM
Differant pits for differant people..everybody has a preference on the body style they would like their pit to have..
Differant pits for differant people..everybody has a preference on the body style they would like their pit to have..true , but you must admit that we have a lot of problems due to unreal expectations and the bigger is better mentality.
Patch O' Pits
07-02-2006, 07:32 PM
If you are talking about building big bulky muscle that is not what a pit bull is supposed to be. If you are talking about having a lean conditioned dog where you can see good muscle development that is a good thing. Also APBTs are not supposed to be a huge breed of dog. You may want to check out www.pitbullconformation.com
As for what food to feed. There is a big thread going on what people feed their dogs, take a peek
Also just wanted to add it is not just the food it is the exercise and genetics that also plays a role in what the dog will ultimately be
Good luck with your dog.
hope that helps
debodebo
07-02-2006, 07:33 PM
The bigger the better is the wrong mentality if you want a APBT. Just go out and buy you a $1200 bully mutt. He will have a big head and look like a monster.
PIT_DOMINATION
07-02-2006, 09:11 PM
thats true bigger is not better when it comes to pits.
chuckdog_5
07-04-2006, 02:11 PM
im not saying i want him to look like he goes to the gym everyday, just a good looking healthy dog. i do like dogs that look like muscle instead of just stout, but like someone said, thats preference. ill try to get pics of him up soon for those interested, thanks for the help so far guys, cant wait to read more on the site
happy 4th of july
charles
tommy3
07-04-2006, 04:20 PM
Your dog will only get as big as its genetics will let it. There is no amount of exercise that will make the dog bigger than its genetics allow.
As stated by others, this breed is not supposed to look like an overdone bodybuilder.
GSDbulldog
07-04-2006, 06:44 PM
Why is having a dog that looks the way you want it to look so important? It's rather selfish, no? A dog will be a dog. Keep him in shape, but don't worry about him looking like a "monster" or a keg on legs. Genetics will play the largest role in his development, all you can do is keep him in shape through handwalking, flirtpole, springpole, swimming, mills, etc.
Please provide a picture of the sort of "muscle mass" you desire. That may clear a few things up.
Luke.UK
07-04-2006, 07:41 PM
Sorry but why on earth would you want your dog to be a monster?
Is this for your benefit or the DOGS!
Take a look how the champion dogs look(on this site)Beutiful animals no monsters.
As for food/training/etc....keep reading this site:)
sedaliapitbulls
07-04-2006, 11:50 PM
the american pit bull terrier was origionally anywhere from 20-50 maby 60 pounds at the most. Should be square and proportional all the whey around. Perferabally tucked and conditioned. There is a body builder or weight pull condition and a show condition a whey to get a weight pull condition is lots of drag weighting and track pulling. a whey to get a show condition is to take it swimming alot take it running or walking or put it on a treadmill. I use a gravity mill which I call it it is easior for the dog to use than a carpet mill. I also weight pull my dogs. To build the mussle for this should only be for weight pull only there is no reason except intemidation which I would never recommend to use any animal for. Well give your dog lots of walking and drag weighting with the propar drag weight harness not recomended with a wallmart harness Use a special made harness made to pull weight. Cd pits has some good ones. But other than that Please feel free to PM me if you need anymore advice. As for everyone els If I have made any errors on my training techniques please feel free to pm me and correct me Thanks
Iverson's Pits
07-05-2006, 01:18 PM
its real simple......EXERCISE......i dont see the complexity of this idea. dont give your dog steroids, supliments, powders, pills, or anything else to get him bigger. all you'll do is decrease his health and shorten his lifespan. proper food....try Canidae All Life Stages....and lots of excercise - running, jumping, tugging, sprints. that's all he needs. let genetics handle how big he CAN be. if you want something bigger or bulkier....try a neo mastiff/razors edge/gotti/remyline dog. if you know where your dog comes from, you can get a better idea of what to expect as far as size goes.
chuckdog_5
07-05-2006, 01:30 PM
its real simple......EXERCISE......i dont see the complexity of this idea. dont give your dog steroids, supliments, powders, pills, or anything else to get him bigger. all you'll do is decrease his health and shorten his lifespan. proper food....try Canidae All Life Stages....and lots of excercise - running, jumping, tugging, sprints. that's all he needs. let genetics handle how big he CAN be. if you want something bigger or bulkier....try a neo mastiff/razors edge/gotti/remyline dog. if you know where your dog comes from, you can get a better idea of what to expect as far as size goes.
thats the kind of answer i was looking for, i love pits, when i said a "monster" i should have been more clear, sorry. He is from a champion bloodline, i have seen the father and will be happy if he turns out just like him. hopefully i will be able to get a pic of the little guy soon.
I cannot resist. Watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9nnF1AeY6A
pennsooner
07-05-2006, 02:47 PM
Yeah, diet and excerise are key. If your dog has a bunch of fat on him/her then you can't see the muscles. A cut dog will look far more impressive than a bulked up fat dog.
And studies have show thin dogs to be healthier.
PiTBuLL200416
07-05-2006, 05:13 PM
TOMMY, I disagree with the statement youi made about Genetics. Well actually I agree and disagree. I have a friend who is into the big pit bulls and his dogs parents are 50 and 55 pounds and his dog is a year and a half and its already 75 pounds. He didnt use any supplements or steriods. He put him on a specific diet and he got results. His dog isnt a fat 75 pounds either, he is actually in great shape but I dont like his dog I was just throwing that out there. Me my self prefer the orignal size of the pit bull, not the big ones.
The reason I said I agree and disagree is because genetics are a big factor but with alot of work and effort you can get your dog bigger than its genetics will allow.
missybee16
07-05-2006, 05:29 PM
I cannot resist. Watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9nnF1AeY6A That sure will show the difference in dogs. I've always liked the video for the music, funny.
14rock
07-05-2006, 07:16 PM
Isnt every "monster pit" from a champion bloodline? Of course, thats what sells pups is that 1 show champion way back in the 7th gen! LOL
tommy3
07-05-2006, 08:18 PM
TOMMY, I disagree with the statement youi made about Genetics. Well actually I agree and disagree. I have a friend who is into the big pit bulls and his dogs parents are 50 and 55 pounds and his dog is a year and a half and its already 75 pounds. He didnt use any supplements or steriods. He put him on a specific diet and he got results. His dog isnt a fat 75 pounds either, he is actually in great shape but I dont like his dog I was just throwing that out there. Me my self prefer the orignal size of the pit bull, not the big ones.
The reason I said I agree and disagree is because genetics are a big factor but with alot of work and effort you can get your dog bigger than its genetics will allow.Do you know how much 25 pounds is on a dog? There is no way that a dog can become 25 lbs heavier than it is built to be through the food it eats. The only possibility is that it is all fat, which would mean that the dog is dragging its stomach on the ground. You said this is not the case.
A thirty percent increase in weight is not possible. That dog would have been near 75 lbs without the specific diet. A couple of pounds of muscle gained may be possible but a 33% percent increase in weight through muscle from a specific diet is not possible.
Just because the parents are 50-55, it does not mean that all the offspring will be the same. Especially, if the dog is not tightly bred.
If your friend wouldn't have worked that dog at all and fed him purina, it would still be near 75 lbs.
Welcome!
Feed him a good quality kibble and imo, walking him is one of the best exercises you can do both for and with him.
I agree, NO need for supplements or any of that garbage. As mentioned pits aren't meant to be "monsters". Personally, I like 'em in the 40 lb range, with nice conformation. Check out Shon and Marty's "lilbit"=PERFECT, imo!;)
Enjoy your stay and glad you found us!:)
PiTBuLL200416
07-05-2006, 09:20 PM
Hey Tommy I have no reason to lie. His stomach is tucked in but the muscle this dog has is incredible. His shoulders and hind legs are big and bulky. He has been feeding him certain foods and swimming, weight pulling, and putting him on the spring pole. He looks like he has alot of muscle on him not fat. There is no reason for me to give false info, I just wanted to share what I see and thats what I see.
YoungLion
07-05-2006, 10:45 PM
chuck welcome to the site, and underneath all the sarcasim there were some good suggestions. continue to ask questions. if you can post an example of what you're looking for that would help ppl point you in the right directon. but as stated before Genetics,feed,and Exercise will play a role in the musclar development of a dog. most breeder who speciallize in "MONSTERS" also specialize in dogs that would make the Bigdogs of yesterday(catchweight) look like skinny hounds. take my Boyles/Alligator male 55 lbs is considered a large dog to most of us who are dedicated to the preservation of the pitbull in its ORIGINAL form as a gamebred dog. what i can say is that this site has a lot of information on allmost every thing you need to know. i would suggest doing a SEARCH and browse the LINKS.you will find more info and less sarcasim. i hope this helps or points you in the right direction. God bless
PiTBuLL200416
07-06-2006, 12:33 AM
Great Post Young Lion thats some good advice there.
PiTBuLL200416
07-06-2006, 12:45 AM
Who put use common sense on my profile page, because what I said had nothin to do with common sense. My friend said when he got this pup that he was going to get it big so he did and I thats what happen. You say its impossible, well obviously its not impossible if my friend made it happen with his dog. Basically all he did was feed him alot and let him grow and get wide or what ever then he worked him. As he continued to work then he ate more therefore got bigger and bigger. That was his little IDea because thats what he did to himself. He was skinny and he started eating and eating and gained weight. Then he lifted weights, ran and started swimming and now he is ripped, bulky ripped. When he did that, which took alot of work and time he firgured it can work for his dog so thats what he did. Dont come at me because you do beleive it, thats on you.
PiTBuLL200416
07-09-2006, 05:05 PM
Does anyone disagree that this is a way that u can make yoiur dog bigger?
houstonapbt
07-09-2006, 06:43 PM
Does anyone disagree that this is a way that u can make yoiur dog bigger?Yes, I disagree.
PiTBuLL200416
07-09-2006, 07:19 PM
Do you think you could explain to me why you disagree with that.
14rock
07-09-2006, 07:41 PM
That dog is big because of genetics, and chances are it would be within the same weight range had he done nothing with it. Canines cannot build excess muscle the way humans can, all you can do is give the dog sufficient nutrients and excersise to grow to its **potential**. The dogs genetic potential doesnt change, only how close the dog gets to its max changes through proper feed and a strict training regimine.
PiTBuLL200416
07-10-2006, 04:05 AM
Well I guess that is what happened Rock, I guess the dog did reach his full potential in size. I am not saying I disagree with the genetic part, but what I am sayin is that my friend had a goal to get his dog bigger than both parents and all its littermates and he did by a long shot. I am not saying I like whay he did, I'm just sayin he did it and thats all.
houstonapbt
07-10-2006, 08:38 AM
Well I guess that is what happened Rock, I guess the dog did reach his full potential in size. I am not saying I disagree with the genetic part, but what I am sayin is that my friend had a goal to get his dog bigger than both parents and all its littermates and he did by a long shot. I am not saying I like whay he did, I'm just sayin he did it and thats all.Well, you make sure to tell him congratulations. lmao. Who cares how big that mutt is?? Like I told you in PM, WHY DOES IT MATTER HOW MONSTROUS A DOG GETS?? That's idiocy.
Esse818
08-17-2006, 01:01 AM
Hey Tommy I have no reason to lie. His stomach is tucked in but the muscle this dog has is incredible. His shoulders and hind legs are big and bulky. He has been feeding him certain foods and swimming, weight pulling, and putting him on the spring pole. He looks like he has alot of muscle on him not fat. There is no reason for me to give false info, I just wanted to share what I see and thats what I see. hey norputo a pit usally follows on there parents size
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