I need help

[scorpion king]

Hi every body
i bought a female pitbull sine one month and i really love this dog,the problem is they was using this dog before for fight's :( and now she is ready for breeding but what happen today is so bad she fight with the other male dog and both get injured what to do guy's her blood line is really great and i want to have puppy's from her but i dont want what happen today happen a gain.
plzzzzzzzzzzz i need you advice im so confused:confused:

[14rock]

Pitbulls were bred for dog-aggression, it makes no sense to acquire them and not expect them to resort to their instincts and fight. You dont buy a greyhound and scald it for chasing bunnies do you? You need to understand what you have and work around it, they are not pack animals and do not need to be around other dogs to be happy.

[scorpion king]

Ok i know bro but what im asking here if there any soloution ,bcz the breeding sesone well not last for ever as you know and then i'll have to wait 6 month's again for this period:(

[cheese]

Are you asking how you can contain your dog so it doesn't get loose again?

[ohav4]

Is that the dog you bought in you signature? If so that aint no pit. It looks more like a Bully Kutta

[maryellen1]

first off, before you even consider breeding her, have you made sure genetically she has no faults? have you made sure the stud you are going to use is also genetically free of defects of health and soundness?? if the dog in your signature is the one, that looks not like a pit bull at all...

before you breed her since you had her for one month, how about doing the proper research to make sure the breeding will be a genetically sound one??

[scorpion king]

the one in my signature is Hammer my great dane and that's her in the pic below
http://www.al-holm.net/uploads/83ff482382.jpg
about the paper's yap i have them all there is also one more thing the male is her son and it's white head blood line and about her there is no fault so plzz guy's i need your advice

[ohav4]

Put a muzzle on her.

[maryellen1]

ok, so genetically she has no health problems, neither does any generation behind her?
what is that on her head? it looks like either the beginning of mange, or something else. before you breed her i would get her head checked out above her left eye, tomake sure its not demodex mange. if its demodex do not breed her, as it passes to the pups.. also, why is it so important for you to breed her when you only have her for one month? are you sure she is genetically sound ? what if she shows HA in the next few months and is pregnant? are you willing to cull her and the entire litter??? what are your reasons for breeding her? is it to better the breed??

[lonesharkpits]

You are not suppose to breed son to mother. It causes serious defects. This is when you get physical and mental defects. Even old dogmen didn't do this. You can breed daughter to father.

[pepper_mommy]

i was thinking that loneshark but i didnt wanna open my mouth, maryellen i think the stuff on her head is scar tissue from fighting. last i checked by reading this board is that if a dog has a seriously violent past, you really ought to not breed her....isnt that right??? just wondering why this person isnt getting the questions as to what she has done to prove herself worthy of breeding? and what does this guy plan on doing with her pups and what is her future after a litter? just wondering if no one else will ask!

[pepper_mommy]

lol....oops SORRY MARYELLEN!!! i should have heeded my own advise of reading the entire post of someone first!!! she asked first, i am just backing her questions up! :)

[scorpion king]

about the head she was injured bcz of sog fight and was helled ,about the diseas or any thing else she is clean bcz i know the full history of this poor dog and it was with my friend the last 8 month's before she went back to the state last before a month so i bought the dor from her and the old owner's i know them also and i was watching this poor dog trying to buy her since she was a puppy bcz i know how they well gona to treat her:(
why i want to breed her so fast bcz my friend how owen her son well travel back home after 4 day's so it's difucult to find a blood line like her(they are to short,i mean there size)that's the reason but i cant watch her or the other dog got ijured it's to sad to watch and dog fight's togather ,that's why i need your help guy's you are so advanced on this thing's.
and can i put muzzle on her and the other dog?????

[pepper_mommy]

i personally dont approve, but then again, no body died and made me the APBT god so i guess in all reality i dont have a say.

welcome to the board, i hope you choose to stay and learn a little more before becoming a breeder. :)

[scorpion king]

sorry but i did not understand what you dont approve on it,do you mean the muzzle

[pepper_mommy]

no the breeding in general. but like i said, thats just my opinion, i was more or less welcoming you to the boards! :)

[Red_Chrome]

Sounds like a bitch that don't need to be bred especially to her SON. BUT I'm just a stupid college student.

[scorpion king]

thanx for welcoming me:) its so nice from you

[pepper_mommy]

welcomed! :) have a look around and get your feelers out there, this site has been wonders to me the last few weeks as i just got my first APBT puppy. you seem like you love the dog so lets see you try to do what right for her and her future.

[Red_Chrome]

OH yeah, Welcome to the board.

[scorpion king]

any why im gonaa put for you guy's her son pic and a batter pic for her so you will know why i wana to breed her with this male
im sorry guy's if desturbe by my request,but i dont have people advaced like who in this exellent site

[scorpion king]

thank you guy's i really love this dog and espichally the APBT

[pepper_mommy]

no i seriously think you need to find her a better mate, i dont care if its bloodlines or colors, moms and sons shouldnt mix....i am pretty sure, so maybe you could research a good stud dog for her and get a puppy from that litter instead?!? plus you havent had her all that long, she is very young (8 months right?) and this may not be the best time for her to have a litter, she is trying to adjust to her new family and other family pets, ya know? give her and your family time to get settled in first, please!!

[scorpion king]

ok i understand know thank you again,but she is 2year's and 5 month's old and her son is one year and two month's old.
so you advice me to breed her by other APBT,ok it's no matter if he is a kind of tall APBT??
by the way you puppy so quit and it's look like scobull and beyonce this is there pic they are 8 week's old male and female
http://www.al-holm.net/uploads/c54c623783.jpg (http://www.al-holm.net)
http://www.al-holm.net/uploads/fe512b0069.jpg (http://www.al-holm.net)
http://www.al-holm.net/uploads/1a3687f467.jpg (http://www.al-holm.net)

[pepper_mommy]

tall? as in long legs? sorry i am just trying to figure it out, i dont advise breeding her at all, but you are gonna do what you want, i know that already, so rather waste my time talking you out of breeding her i deffinately say dont breed her to her son...find a differnt one. and then after you get her pup, please let her enjoy her life and get her spayed...ok??? that is best for her. she has had a bad life so far and deserves a break now.

[scorpion king]

ok i will take your advice,but i want to know for my knwolege why mother and son should not mix.
by the way what is your openion about my puppy's,for information i have them whan they was 3 week's old and know they are 12 week's old

[catcher T]

why would u breed this dog? ,,are ya breeding just to be breeding? what makes this dog worthy of puppies?

[Riptora]

Yes, I agree that you need to give her some time to adjust to her new life with you. If you want to breed a good litter, the more time and energy you spend on it, the better. It would be a waste of time to breed a litter of cur pups when you could just be patient and have a litter of great pups.

One reason-I would wait is because if she is too stressed she just might either kill her own pups out of stress or be distracted from them because she is concerned with other things.

Another reason- The stress of being in a new home is bound to effect her physically and she will not produce as healthy of a litter as she would in prime shape. It takes a lot out of any dog to grow life in the womb and spit it out AND feed all the pups. You want the best in your breeding, right?

ANother reason- you should wait. The only way to determine what kind of stud you REALLY want is to know what kind of traits your dog has. You want to take what you like and don't like about her and breed her to a dog that has the traits you want to push into a litter. Got that? Again, you want the BEST, don't you?

Just think, you could breed her NOW, have a bad litter and THEN you have to wait a VERY long time to breed her again. What's six months? if you're going to get the litter you want compared to lets say, a litter for now that sucks and then waiting a year to try for the litter you should have had in the begining?

I don't know anything about your dog to say if she should be bred, I HATE the thought of anyone breeding ANY dog without thoroughly planning it out and taking it very seriously. Otherwise you're doing more harm than good.

It sounds like you've waited a LONG time to get her, why blow it with impatience now? Listen to what the people on this board are saying, they know about breeding and please don't breed to the son.

By the way, do you have another pick of Hammer? I thought he was a Dane but he looks really thick in the legs, I'm just curious to get another angle of him. He is old isn't he?

[Riptora]

You had them since they were 3 weeks? That's WAY too young to take a pup from it's mother. They should not be seperated from mom and littermates until at least 8 weeks. I would expect poor health as a result and perhaps some socialization issues. That's very young. Very young...

[miakoda]

There isn't a 1 yr old dog out there that is worthy of being bred.

[scorpion king]

about hammer he is 7 year's old yes he is old but when he was young a lot of exersise was done with him swiming runing and very good nutration.
i will put som pic for him about the pup's the owener is so careless he sold there mother and five of the pup's died:( and last for of them i bought two of them and the other two my friend bought them thanx gad they are all now in good condition and healthy.
about the breeding im gona take your advice bcz i dont want any hart's pain any more and i like this female so much and wana give her spechial care so know i dont care for breeding any more.
thank you so much guy's for your advice and notice.
her is bro some of Hammer pic

[PitBull_30]

Great! There is ALOT to learn before breeding. PM me if you need anything.

[scorpion king]

thx bro for your support

[pepper_mommy]

yay! i am so glad for the way this turned out! keep us posted on how she is adjusting to her new life with you and your daughter! :) the bridle pups are very cute, thats all i can tell you about them, and your dane looks like he has had a nice 7 years so far. its nice to see someone who cares so much about their dogs and is open minded, good job! i have a brindle too, see below. :)

[Riptora]

I too am very glad to hear you are going to take make an extra effort to do things right. Your dogs will thank you. I see now why you got pups at 3 weeks. That breeder was very ignorant, that is a dangerous thing to do. I'm glad they are doing well and are healthy.

[maryellen1]

that is great if you are truly going to wait to breed her.. and thank you for taking those 2 pups .. i would however clean up their space and get rid of the plastic and stuff laying around, as they could eat it and die from a blockage or choke.
your dane is gorgeous too.
welcome to the forum.

[Red_Chrome]

Your danes are cute! Do your danes have a bigger yard than the one their in, in the pics? They should have a lot bigger area to move around than that little pen. You can really mess up their bones and they can get arthritis quicker if they can't move around a lot. just an FYI

[newbieturtlepits]

dunno, from that pic and only having her one month, and been used to fight already, dunno , opinions are as they are , mine is mine , but i wouldnt buy a pup from that breeding with out alot of background on the dogs , no way, and what is the rush??? you gonna show her to people after the pups are born , shes gonna be a mess... and doesnt look all that right now.. not a good idea.. get the dog in primo condition , get to know her and her temperment after being moved from one owner to the next.. my opinion only,,,, that bitch aint in breedable condition , youd be doing her and the pups a serious disservice to breed her now... there i said it and im glad... good luck in the future.....

[newbieturtlepits]

good you will wait , caught up on the reading.....i had a dane go ten years , beautiful till her last day , couple weeks ago... where are you located.. looks like you have alot of nice room for breeding.. the kennel -keep-areas should be roomy..doesnt look it from the view of the keep areas , they need lots of space to remain healthy.. even small clean small spaces can grow problem with disease.. keep in touch and welcome .. looking forward to seeing more from you in the future........

[scorpion king]

thnx a lot guy's
papper mommy your APBT is very cute and sweet:)
about the danes that's not there home i never kept them more than one hour in that cage it's only when the cleaner show up to clean my yard.
about the pup's that's also not there home i was cleaning there home so i kept them tomprary in that room which is under construction to be an air conditionig room for nursing bitches ni will put new pic for there home asp.
about the APBT female i will try to upload a video clip so you can see our relation togather you will not beleave that she was used for a dog fight before and i only have her for a one month(i really love this dog i feel there is kind of speschial conection between me and her)
at the end i would like to thank all of you for your support and i will try to take your advice for batter life for my dog's.
thank you very much

[Attila]

You should not breed a son to its mother because the likelyhood of genetic fault increases in that order. That isn't line breeding it is inbreeding. Now if the male was a grandfather it would be ok. On the out side it looks the same from son to mother and father to daughter however mathimatically in the way that gens split and splice togeth the odds of a double pair of same geno types increases for son to mother more so that father to daughter although there is still a chance of such it is less and some are willing to take that risk over the other. However if you want to preserve her line I would find a sibling of her father or the grandfather to breed her to providing they meet the qualifications and specifications of the breed. Some genetic disorders are passed from mother to pup and the chance of matching those genetic factors of defect severly increase in such a breeding. That is the bottom line. I would read up on breeding, cross breeding, line breeding, and in breeding before I moved forward in this dog. If you have to breed her for some unknown reason to us then breed her to a APBT that is no relation but to breed standards at least. Is English your primary language. I don't discriminate if it isn't however I or someone else may be able to put it in terms in the lanuage you do use for a native tongue. I am not apposed to that if it must be. You should not breed siblings either for that matter. I do pray that you comprehend the reason not to breed mother with son. ** Suki posted a fine article that you should read "Defects and how they are inherited" . Look under articles above in the navigation bar and press articles then go to that one and read it. Good mind food.

[pepper_mommy]

thanks for the sweet compliments scorpion king! :)

[scorpion king]

thx again for your support