Please Be AWARE!!

[gotpits]

I ran across this site(dont know them at all and this is just a heads up warning to anyone being contacted by them)
www.freewebs.com/jarvispits/index.htm (http://www.freewebs.com/jarvispits/index.htm)
My reason for this post is because after I saw the sight I saw that they say they are out to better the breed etc..... but are breeding dogs with fake papers,know nothing about the history or pedigree behind the dogs. The red female I find out is NOT registered and knows nothing about her and they have already been contacting people to breed to her and she is only about 4 months old. They are asking EVERYONE they can to breed to the dogs and is on the prowl asking people to sell them dogs wich I dont feel is right. Sounds like a BYB to me. I also saw the post on this board (my reason for joining!)where they say the dog is unregistered so why the hell would they contact someone about breeding? THAT IS BS!! Better the breed by buying something good and showing it and doing positive with the dog instead of putting more unregistered mutts into the mix.
AGAIN this is just a heads up because people like this just piss me :( :mad: off and others should be warned on what kind of people they are. I dont know much about them,and personally dont want to. I just know what I have heard from very reliable people who have nothing to gain by lieing and saw for myself!

[pepper_mommy]

my doggie is unregistered....i could register her, but havent....she isnt a mutt, :( i will say that i posted a similar thing and it was shut down quick, mostly b/c they werent here to defend themselves, which now that i look back on it, was fair, but i was frustrated with what i found too. :) welcome to the site btw!! :)

[miakoda]

LOL. That's one of our game-dog members!

[pepper_mommy]

LMAO!!!!! are you serious miakoda???

[Verderben]

yeah she is serious.........

[miakoda]

LMAO!!!!! are you serious miakoda???
As a heart attack unfortunately. If you ever have some time, look through all the hoobly ads & whatnot & you will find several members on there peddling mutts left & right while they come on here preaching to others. It's just the way it goes sometimes.

[Bullyboi]

miakoda your right! lmao

[pepper_mommy]

wow! yeah i am still trying to find out how to navigate the site, my comp has something crazy going on that everytime i bring up a window in a window and close it, the whole friggin comp freezes so i am very careful so i dont have to restart the thing every five minutes, i was afraid when i read that, that it was one of the more respected people on here, i was like "oh crap!!" lol! :)

[Defend2DaEnd]

Yea that is a member. I believe it is prettyfulpits or something like that? She is in the gallery though. So we can bash her all we want because she is here to defend herself right? Hold on give me a minute and I have every right because I don't breed and I would never advertise online if I did.



My bash:

Breeding for color is wrong of course being a member she should already know that but doesn't seem to care. Having two dogs does not make you a kennel it makes you a back yard breeder. Were you not the girl that sayed your dog was spayed?

[gotpits]

they are members of this board and have posted before about that dog being unregistered etc...... and found out they know nothing about the dogs history and are going to try and ckc the dog to breed it to someones stud. Dont know who and dont care if they do. I just thought I would give a heads up to those who do give a sh%t about the breed and do want to better it and shut down people like them. It is disgusting that they would do that. Look at the produced,that dog was bred to her father and they are proud of that.

[pepper_mommy]

oh yeah, i know her i think...i use the term *know* loosely. i still wont bash b/c i seen the site and it looked pretty empty to me, but then again i am using this comp.....

[Stillwater]

The one thing that "betters the breed" more than anything is Culling as needed.
I truely believe that if you can't cull a dog and/or dogs you shouldn't have the right to breed two dogs.
You say cull to 90% of the so-called breeders these days and they look at you like your a serial killer or a caloused heel.
People who breed and don't cull accordingly are the ones ruining the breed.

[pepper_mommy]

i was taught how to cull rottie pups at 7 years old....and with each litter, that was my job....that and keeping the whelping box clean.

[TEXAS PIT DOGS]

well i couldnt get the dang thing to come up,but dont be surprised who is selling god knows what in reallife and preaching something diffrent amongst us here.this is the internet afterall.

[pepper_mommy]

ok its prettyfulpitbulls i found her gallery, her dogs there look good to me, but i cant get the website to work at all to see what the difference is.

[Mercepitdog]

So what else is new?

[Bullyboi]

Its not the fact that her dogs look bad ...we have a problem with her breeding dogs with unknown background. IT is just more mutts to add to the problem.

[pepper_mommy]

oh, i didnt know the whole story, thats why i didnt give my 2 cents worth bullyboi, i learned that lesson already! :)

[B]

The site is going to be allowed. We have the member here that can defend themselves if they would like to. It sounds like they have some really bad breeding practices. I will be curious to hear if they actually post here.

Regards,

B

[420puffer]

well i couldnt get the dang thing to come up,but dont be surprised who is selling god knows what in reallife and preaching something diffrent amongst us here.this is the internet afterall.Exactly....................

[prettyfulpitbull]

Thrre are papers on those dogs

[miakoda]

Thrre are papers on those dogsThere ya go, B. There's your reasons for breeding right there.

Seems like the initial banning should've stuck.....................

[lonesharkpits]

I along with most of the people on here know that you do not breed any dog just because it has papers. I am not triing to be rude, but what is your reasoning behind breeding? Do you know how to choose dogs that need to be bred and how to read pedigrees? I feel that everyone makes mistakes, especially if you are new to these dogs and do not have proper breeding guidance, but what makes the difference between someone who cares and a BYB is if you realize you are breeding wrong and stop and start over with new stock and new reasoning or if you just get mad and keep overpopulating the world with dogs.

[miakoda]

How does that song go? The 50's or 60's song about "Get a Job"?

Oh, & loneshark, $$$$ speaks louder than our words to some.

[pepper_mommy]

thanks mia....i needed a crappy song stuck in my head! lol.

[lonesharkpits]

Unfortunately that is sooooo true.....
It is very sad for the sake of the dogs, if only they would see!
Their dogs look well taken care of and loved(except for breeding ethics) if they would stick to the petbulls and not breed.

[game_test]

hahahhaa what a loser. you POS peddler lol.

[game_test]

LOL DUMBASS

http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14042

[B]

Good find game_test :)

Regards,

B

[prettyfulpitbull]

What proof do you have that those dogs have fake papers?If you want you can come over here and i'll show papers to you and ped.

[pepper_mommy]

prettyful, with all due respect, i dont think its the papers that they are concerned with...by what i can tell that is, i may be wrong....

[miakoda]

prettypittiful, why don't you chalk it up to being found out? If you didn't want people to know you are nothing more than a byb & puppy peddler, then why post an internet site? And of all things, do NOT come on hear preaching shit you don't even follow. You will soon join your previous name of "djarvisgirl" if you keep it up.................

Why don't you contact all the other bybs who have been found out on this site? You can find them by jumping the wall like they have all done before you.

[420puffer]

contradicting themselves ...thats weak.. why are you even on game-dog? they dont teach anything about BYBreeding

[lonesharkpits]

If you are triing to justify what you are doing, YOU CAN'T! If you feel what you are doing is right, YOUR WRONG! You keep talking about ped. why don't you post them if they are so important and you feel will prove that you are not a BYB. You never answered my questions from earlier in this post. So so far that isn't saying much.

[prettyfulpitbull]

hey got pits pm me with your proof.I'll post ped in a min

[lonesharkpits]

All my proof is on my web page! The peds. and ribbons/trophies speak for themselves!!!
We show and weight pull. I don't mean this conceided in anyway, because a lot of people on here have dogs with peds as good as mine: but I doubt you would even be able to understand how to read a pedigree or how good some of my dogs are bred. Hince why we don't breed unless it is outstanding!

[tommy3]

The peds aren't important. There are probably more BYB's breeding papered dogs than unpapered just because they are easier to sell. How old is Cami? What makes her worthy to be bred? What about the stud? What about all of the dogs you plan to breed?

You can have the prettiest peds possible but if your dogs are not offering something to benefit the breed and you decide to breed them, you are playing a part in the downfall of the breed.

[prettyfulpitbull]

haven't got a chance to see other post gimme a min.

[GSDbulldog]

Look what crawls up from beneath the woodwork. One only need to look.

What are your dogs bringing to the table? What do you strive to produce? Why are you breeding? What have your dogs done to prove themselves? What do you consider to be a BYB?

[prettyfulpitbull]

the stud is not mine so i have no right to post his ped but i'll ask and he has like 5 ch in his adba ped.cami is 2

[pepper_mommy]

question....did anyone know all this before this particular thread? or is this news to everyone? i am seriously just curious.

[GSDbulldog]

the stud is not mine so i have no right to post his ped but i'll ask and he has like 5 ch in his adba ped

So your not even sure of the exact number of "Champions"? Talk about knowing the history behind a dog. Whether he is yours or not isn't the point. You bred your bitch to him, & thus should know just as much about him and you do about your bitch (Although sadly, I'm afraid you just might).

[GSDbulldog]

Pepper, this is new to me. Not to say that I didn't expect it, but it is news to me.

[lonesharkpits]

It doesn't matter the # of ch. why does that dog need to be bred? Is he a show or weight pull dog that is or close to being a ch.? Or is he a catch dog that has proven himself by working?

[pepper_mommy]

oh, ok....because it seemed like people may have known this, and that is why i was confused, i thought that someone who is doing what apparently is being done would be banned from a reputable (well, what appears to be so far as i can tell) site as this one. of course i dont know all the rules on that just yet.

[Verderben]

Vegas's Ped
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e266/CutePups/vegasped.jpg

[cemoreno]

Two words "Juan Gotty" need I say more tisk..tisk....

[maryellen1]

all i am going to say is:

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="90%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=quote>Code of Ethics For Breeders of American Pit Bull Terriers/American Staffordshire Terriers

Section I: Introduction & Mission Statement

Introduction: This Code of Ethics is being presented by the Pit Bull Owners Alliance (PBOA). The material presented herein is to serve as a guide for breeders and reference tool for potential buyers seeking out breeders. The goal in presenting this Code of Ethics is not to promote Pit Bull breeding, but rather to discourage indiscriminate breeding, poor breeding practices, and support of unethical breeders. PBOA supports and encourages rescue above and beyond breeding or purchasing Pit Bulls.

Mission Statement: The ethical breeder of American Pit Bull Terriers and/or American Staffordshire Terriers ("Pit Bulls") shall always hold paramount the future of the breed. A desire for betterment and preservation of the Pit Bull breed should be the sole driving force behind a breeder's choice to produce puppies.

1) The breed's future: because of a) anti-Pit Bull legislation, b) irresponsible ownership, c) criminal animal abuse, and d) a surplus of dogs, the future of the Pit Bull is in jeopardy. Prior to planning a litter, a breeder should ask himself/herself if the litter will jeopardize the future of the breed by contributing in any way to a, b, c, and/or d above.

2) Betterment of the breed: the goal of the ethical Pit Bull breeder should always be, first and foremost, to better the breed through the production of puppies that are as good as or superior to the previous generation. Production of Pit Bulls that ideally represent the United Kennel Club (UKC), American Dog Breeders Association (ADBA), and/or American Kennel Club (AKC) Standard(s) should be considered the pinnacle of a Pit Bull breeding program.

3) Preservation of the breed: ethical breeders should work to preserve, through legal and humane means, the Pit Bull breed as it was, is and should be. Means to achieve this goal include: protecting the integrity of the breed through adherence to the Standards; careful culling (via sterilization, and/or humane euthanasia when necessary) of sub-standard stock; meticulous record-keeping, DNA profiling, microchipping, and pedigree research; studying to achieve a scholarly knowledge of breed history, temperament, health, structure, and genetics.

Section II: Actions of the Ethical Pit Bull Breeder

Note 1: For simplicity’s sake, "dog" will apply to both sexes. “Breeding stock” will apply to any dog or dogs that the Ethical Pit Bull breeder will breed, allow to be bred, or pay for the breeding services of.

Note 2: The pedigrees (previous generations) of all breeding stock should be considered as important as the breeding stock itself.

Note 3: Proper care, management and training are beyond the scope of this document. However an Ethical Pit Bull Breeder keeps their dogs well trained, in good health, in clean quarters, provides daily exercise and mental stimulation, and does not keep more dogs than can adequately be provided for.

The Ethical Pit Bull Breeder chooses breeding stock based on several criteria:

a) correctness of temperament (see #2 and Item 2)
b) health and vitality of the individual dogs (see #3, Item 3, and Note 3)
c) conformity to the applicable breed standard of the recognized Pit Bull registry (see # 5)
d) qualities the individual dogs may offer to future generations
e) qualities the pedigrees of the individual dogs may offer to future generations

The Ethical Pit Bull Breeder holds “A” and “B” above paramount above all other considerations when choosing breeding stock.

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
_________________

[SouthernDixie]

Hey.... both my dogs have CH and GR CH blood in them... I think I'll breed the two of them together and get double the good blood!

Woohoo! Money money money! Moooneeeeeeey!

;)

[prettyfulpitbull]

actually for all your 411 my ped is posted under one of my dogs pics.I guess you reasearch so well you should know that.You don't me.None of you like merles or blues you bash anyome with them so why should I take advice from a bunch of people who i've seen continously bash on here?I don't care what you think you can think what you want but you don't know me neither do I know you so w/e.If you don't breed you have no say as apparently you know nothing if you've never bred.Any ? post now cause I am not going to argue with all of you over something you know nothing about.

[maryellen1]

The Ethical Pit Bull Breeder chooses breeding stock based on several criteria:

a) correctness of temperament (see #2 and Item 2)
b) health and vitality of the individual dogs (see #3, Item 3, and Note 3)
c) conformity to the applicable breed standard of the recognized Pit Bull registry (see # 5)
d) qualities the individual dogs may offer to future generations
e) qualities the pedigrees of the individual dogs may offer to future generations

The Ethical Pit Bull Breeder holds “A” and “B” above paramount above all other considerations when choosing breeding stock.

The Ethical Pit Bull Breeder:

1) has an extensive knowledge of Pit Bulls (their history, genetics, the Standards, care, training), as well as a strong understanding of breeding practices, canine health, and dog behavior/training

2) chooses breeding stock that is temperamentally sound and representative of the Standards. In addition, the Ethical Pit Bull Breeder does not breed any Pit Bull that is human-aggressive, fearful, exhibits behavior typically seen in breeds of the protection/guardian group, nor any Pit Bull that is not “temperament correct” (see item 3 below).

Item 2: The temperament correct Pit Bull: seeks out human interaction; is responsive, biddable and eager to please; may be genetically predisposed to aggression towards other dogs or animals; is appropriately submissive; is well balanced and optimistic; enjoys handling; presents good eye contact; is able to be calm in the presence of other dogs on leash or - if initially leash reactive - can learn how to tolerate their presence; is willing to connect with handler during high arousal; can be handled safely even in times of high arousal; accepts a reasonable amount of confinement; drops arousal levels quickly when removed from a stressful situation; is social with people of all types; is responsive and good natured; is never aggressive towards humans.


3) health tests all breeding stock prior to breeding, and certifies health of breeding stock prior to breeding where such certifications are available. Tests and certifications shall be conducted and processed prior to any dog being bred. Required health tests and certifications include: hips, elbows, thyroid, and heart (evaluated and certified by organizations such as Orthopedic Foundation for Animals [OFA] for hips, elbows, thyroid, and heart, or PennHip for hips). Dogs should test negative for Brucellosis and von Willebrand's Disease. Additional testing may be conducted for the following health abnormalties: Spinocerebellar/Hereditary Ataxia (specifically on American Staffordshire Terriers), and Progressive Retinal Atrophy (PRA) with subsequent registration with Canine Eye Registry Foundation (CERF) encouraged for dogs free of PRA. Results and certifications of any and all tests will be made readily available to potential buyers if tested and certified dogs will be bred. In addition, immediately prior to each breeding, all breeding stock should pass a basic veterinary health examination and be determined to be in good health.

[maryellen1]

Item 3: No dog with unsatisfactory health tests and/or certification results shall ever be bred. Unsatisfactory results would be (among others):

a) OFA hip ratings below fair
b) OFA elbow ratings that indicated elbow dysplasia
c) PennHip ratings that show abnormal joint laxity
d) thyroids that do not test normal; thyroids that test TgAA positive
e) hearts that are not found to be clear of murmurs or other abnormalities upon examination with a Doppler (ultrasound) exam by a Board Certified Cardiologist
f) positive tests for Spincerebellar/Hereditary Ataxia
g) positive tests for PRA
h) positive tests for any other hereditary/congenital/genetic disease

Note 3) No dog that has ever been diagnosed with a hereditary/congenital skin disease (including demodectic mange) shall ever be bred. A dog with chronic health problems (such as skin allergies) and/or weaknesses, and/or immune weakness shall never be bred. A dog that has torn anterior cruxiate cigaments (ACL) shall never be bred unless the torn ligaments were damaged because of conceivable stress and/or injury which indicate normal environmental causes and not hereditary/congenital/genetic weakness.

5) chooses breeding stock that conforms to the Standard(s) of the applicable recognized Pit Bull registry.

6) registers breeding stock and produced litters with a recognized Pit Bull registry.
Item 1: For the sake of this Code of Ethics, recognized Pit Bull registries will be considered the United Kennel Club and the American Dog Breeders Association (for American Pit Bull Terriers and American Staffordshire Terriers being registered as American Pit Bull Terriers), and the American Kennel Club (for American Staffordshire Terriers). These organizations are the oldest and hold breed standards that are most sought after and followed.

7) only breeds mature (over 2 years of age) dogs. Does not breed elderly bitches, nor does the Ethical Pit Bull breeder breed any one bitch more than once every 24 months.

8) seeks validation of quality of breeding stock through competition in organized dog sports and subsequent achievement of titles and certifications such as:

a) UKC, ADBA, and AKC conformation, obedience, agility, and performance titles
b) certifications such as the AKC’s Canine Good Citizen (CGC), American Temperament
Test Society’s Temperament Tested (TT), Therapy Dogs International’s Therapy Dog International (TDI), and other similar, valid certifications.
c) events, titles, and certifications offered by other valid organizations.

[maryellen1]

9) breeds less than 3 litters every year. Should ideally breed no more than 1 litter a year.

10) breeds when there is a specific demand for the puppies, and owners for puppies have been predetermined before birth.

Section III: Puppies, Placement, and Care

Note 5: Section III also applies to adolescent dogs and/or adult dogs any breeder may have in their care and potentially place.

1) chooses homes based on ability to properly care for and handle a Pit Bull, and acts as match maker between puppy/dog and potential owner to ensure compatibility.

Item 4: The quality of the home any puppy or dog is placed into should be of great importance. The Ethical Pit Bull Breeder only considers a potential owner that:

a) has already done good breed research. Asks good questions. Shows willingness to learn more
b) is realistic about breed challenges (dog-aggression, high energy levels, strong and pushy, breed specific legislation, rental and home owners insurance issues, bad reputation of breed, etc.)
c) shows a stable, mature, open-minded personality
d) is happy to be interviewed and receive a home inspection
e) is physically capable of handling a strong dog
f) wants an indoor pet as a companion animal/family member
g) has had some dog experience and knowledge of basic training.
h) has a reasonably active lifestyle and is prepared to satisfy dog's daily exercise needs
i) owns a home or has a secure rental that will allow a Pit Bull (should provide proof in lease)
j) can provide safe containment: tall, secure fences if yard is present and working latches on gates.
k) lives in a household (includes roommates, children, seniors) that is involved in the decision to bring a Pit Bull into the family and is able to help manage a dog
l) has other pets in the home that are a good match and understands that Pit Bull must be separated from other pets when not supervised

12) socializes and conducts basic training with all puppies before sending them to their new homes.

13) microchips all puppies prior to sending them to their new homes.

14) does not place puppies under 8 weeks of age.

15) does not place puppies in areas where breed specific legislation that would endanger the puppy’s life or quality of life exists.

16) provides legally-binding, non-expiring contracts upon purchase that protect buyer as well as puppy. Contract certifies health (congenital, genetic, hereditary) and temperamental soundness of puppy. Assures puppy is disease-free prior to placement through records detailing proper veterinary and health care. Contract includes clause that requires new owner to relocate with the dog, or return the dog to the Ethical Pit Bull Breeder in the event that breed specific legislation that would endanger the puppy’s life or quality of life is enacted in the new owner’s city/state.

17) takes responsibility for any puppy produced, during any point in the lifetime of that puppy, should the original home become unable to care for the puppy or grown adult dog.

18) sends puppies home with papers from the recognized Pit Bull registry

[maryellen1]

18) sends puppies home with papers from the recognized Pit Bull registry to allow the new owner to register the puppy in his/her name; unless the puppy is pet stock and is not spayed or neutered prior to going to new home, in which case, the Ethical Pit Bull Breeder will withhold papers until the new owner can provide proof of spay/neuter. It is strongly advised, however, that the Ethical Pit Bull Breeder spays/neuters all pet stock prior to placement in new homes.

Item 5: “Pet stock” is any puppy that is not or would not potentially be bred by an Ethical Pit Bull Breeder, and/or any puppy that will not potentially be shown in conformation events.

19) after sending puppy home, offers support indefinitely to new owner by way of breed counseling, training/behavior advice, health care information, referrals, etc.

20) recognizes that breeding is not a money making venture, a business, nor a means to bring in extra money. Stud fees and sale prices of puppies should reflect the costs of ethical breeding. The ethical breeder does not see a profit at the end of the year, but may actually see a loss.

(C) 2005 Mary Harwelik & Pit Bull Owners Alliance
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[simms]

OMG, this shit is priceless....Damn near makes my freakin day,LOL.

[Suki]

OMG, this shit is priceless....Damn near makes my freakin day,LOL.

geeeeze, miss a few hours here, and look what happens?!!!!

If you cannot breed for the betterment of the breed, not simply to add to it, but to add QUALITY to it,
then
...DON'T!!!!!


plain and simple!!!!!

[simms]

actually for all your 411 my ped is posted under one of my dogs pics.I guess you reasearch so well you should know that.You don't me.None of you like merles or blues you bash anyome with them so why should I take advice from a bunch of people who i've seen continously bash on here?I don't care what you think you can think what you want but you don't know me neither do I know you so w/e.If you don't breed you have no say as apparently you know nothing if you've never bred.Any ? post now cause I am not going to argue with all of you over something you know nothing about.You dont know JACK SHIT when it comes to this breed....You are breeding with NO purpose behind those dogs.....you aint breeding a better bulldog,your breeding a bunch of CURS!!!!

What the hell are you going to do with all those dogs you end up with....find em loving homes..LMAO yeah fuckin right....OH that's right,thats how you got your dogs...LMAO.

Then you have the nerve to come on this board and bash other ppl,for doing EXACTLY what the fuck your doing.

Dirty fuckin deed my ass....you lack the integrity and heart that takes to breed a bulldog to standard.

I would cull the lot of them!!!!

[simms]

geeeeze, miss a few hours here, and look what happens?!!!!

If you cannot breed for the betterment of the breed, not simply to add to it, but to add QUALITY to it,
then
...DON'T!!!!!


plain and simple!!!!!
Damn, Miss Suki!...LOL

[cemoreno]

Bullyboi is a Merle APBT and we don't bash him. His dog Cali is cute should she be breed no because it's a disqualificationand that doesn't better the breed.

[prettyfulpitbull]

I didn't bash anyone on here.Oh and by the way "arguing on the net is like running the special olypics"you're still an idiot".What faults do you see that Cami has?BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.I have not been asking to buy peoples dogs.Why would someone want to join just to start drama when apparently they knrew of this site beforehand?Sounds like a troublemaker drama king/queen to me.Look no one has to make friends by bashing others.What was everyone a prep in school or what?Telling rumors to look cool and chillin with people who will go stab you in the back first chance they and talk crap behind your back?

[simms]

I didn't bash anyone on here.Oh and by the way "arguing on the net is like running the special olypics"you're still an idiot".What faults do you see that Cami has?BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.I have not been asking to buy peoples dogs.Why would someone want to join just to start drama when apparently they knrew of this site beforehand?Sounds like a troublemaker drama king/queen to me.Look no one has to make friends by bashing others.What was everyone a prep in school or what?Telling rumors to look cool and chillin with people who will go stab you in the back first chance they and talk crap behind your back?http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13953

Hope this link works....LOL

We are not friends so I guess there is no loss there.....Yes I would consider you to be a DRAMA QUEEN of sorts....LOL

Edit: BTW you aint NO different from those you accuse....You contradict your own sig.

[Red_Chrome]

actually for all your 411 my ped is posted under one of my dogs pics.I guess you reasearch so well you should know that.You don't me.None of you like merles or blues you bash anyome with them so why should I take advice from a bunch of people who i've seen continously bash on here?I don't care what you think you can think what you want but you don't know me neither do I know you so w/e.If you don't breed you have no say as apparently you know nothing if you've never bred.Any ? post now cause I am not going to argue with all of you over something you know nothing about.
I don't bash people UNLESS they deserved to be bashed. It would be much worse in person becasue I have NO quams about making an ignorant person look like and even more illiterate ignorant dumbass, they usaully walk away with their tails between their legs. YOU, MY FRIEND ARE A BYB! FACE IT! YOU DID IT. NOT US. As far as merle dogs go, They shouldn't be bred as it is not an accepted color except for maybe the CKC(*cough*paper registry*cough*). The blue dogs are nice IF they are BRED RIGHT and NOT FROM A BYB LIKE YOU. You get on here and act mighter than though and then come to find out the almighty know it all is a BYB. Sorry, had to stop to laugh my ass off. lmao I am new to the breed. I have a red-nose American Staffordshire Terrier. The red-nose is not recognized by the AKC, her parent are AKC, UKC reg. She is AKC reg. with limited registration papers. MEANING I CANNOT BREED HER. I don't want to and never have wanted too because she doesn't fit in the standard. She is SPAYED! SHE IS ALSO A WORKING DOG, WE DO SCHUTZHUND AND OBEDIENCE, SHE ALSO HAS HER CGC CERT. I'm not breeding her and she already has MORE TITLES THAN YOUR DOGS. You are a POS BYB. Do you know the meaning of the word SPAY and NEUTER? It means to make your dogs unable to have any babies. MOST RESPONSIBLE people do this IF they're dogs have nothing good to contribute to the breed or if the dog has no titles and is just a pet. Not every pet needs to be bred. You are disgusting. BTW- My names Courtney and it was really nice to meet you. :)

[14rock]

So tell me now, what were your real intentions for wanting to "foster" my buddies pup for awhile?

Why did you tell me your dogs were fixed?

ETA:

I'm as angry as the others, but the fact is this BS is not uncommon, and she is far from the only one to be caught up from the site double-talking and bullshitting. All you need to do is take a look at hoobly.com as mia stated, I've been watching that for years, and it never suprises me who is peddling dogs on there and act oblivious to it here! Quite possibly the only thing I hate worse than a BYB, is a snitch and a liar. You are both.

[ikidmyself]

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actually for all your 411 my ped is posted under one of my dogs pics.I guess you reasearch so well you should know that.You don't me.None of you like merles or blues you bash anyome with them so why should I take advice from a bunch of people who i've seen continously bash on here?I don't care what you think you can think what you want but you don't know me neither do I know you so w/e.If you don't breed you have no say as apparently you know nothing if you've never bred.Any ? post now cause I am not going to argue with all of you over something you know nothing about.
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Isnt your red nose a a colby?? or is it tunt tunt tunt
http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?p=126674#post126674

you didnt know that dog wasnt papered or did you ??? tunt tunt tunt
http://www.game-dog.com/forums/show...21&page=1&pp=10

maybe everyone should scan these but what do I know

[gotpits]

well I didnt post to bash about the dogs,they do look like they are taken care of,but the fact is,the red dog they have has NO HISTORY!! They know nothing of this dog,will try to CKC her and breed her. I am on the net ALOT and see many posts and know other people who have had contact with you about using their studs,buying dogs etc......... So prove your red female has papers. Well you cant beacuse there was a post on here before about you I think rescueing her and she is unregistered. Well I found out you already have someone lined up to breed her to. I cant mention their name because they dont get on here but it is true! All you need to do is stick to having pets,learn more,get some worthy dogs and better your breeding ethics and help better the breeed,NOT THE BS YOU ARE DOING!!

[simms]

So tell me now, what were your real intentions for wanting to "foster" my buddies pup for awhile?

Why did you tell me your dogs were fixed?
DAMN!......LOL:)

[Red_Chrome]

I'd be worried about that one 14. Sounds liek she wanted to foster him all right in return for his stud services, he can provide to her girls.

[ABK]

Bullyboi is a Merle APBT and we don't bash him. His dog Cali is cute should she be breed no because it's a disqualificationand that doesn't better the breed.
No one bashed Bullyboi b/c:

#1: His dog Cali is a rescue.
#2: He is not going to breed Cali.
#3: He does not tell ppl Cali is a pit bull. He says he THINKS she is but b/c she is a rescue w/ unknown lineage he says can't be sure.

THAT is why Bully isn't getting bashed.

[Red_Chrome]

No one bashed Bullyboi b/c:

#1: His dog Cali is a rescue.
#2: He is not going to breed Cali.
#3: He does not tell ppl Cali is a pit bull. He says he THINKS she is but b/c she is a rescue w/ unknown lineage he says can't be sure.

THAT is why Bully isn't getting bashed.
That and Cali is just a cute pet. Bullyboi is more responsible. I believe he is younger than pretyfulpitbulls but yet more responsible. That's sad. Keep showing these ignorant people how it should be Bullyboi- you and cali are a good PR team and you are also responsible at a young age. Keep up the good work. Give Cali a pat for me.

[miakoda]

OMG, this shit is priceless....Damn near makes my freakin day,LOL.LOL. It sure has made mine! :D

and to 14rock, go figure, huh? Seems she only wanted to foster your friend's dog's sperm. Gotta love those kind of "rescue" people.

[Aceman]

Wow, glad I didn,t get caught up in this one. Lol, and by the way, my boy is getting snipped in 2 weeks,,shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,, he,s sitting right behind me, he gets wind of this & he,ll be catching the first train outta here ;).

[prettyfulpitbull]

14 ROCK DID I NOT ASK THAT THAT DOG BE FIXED BEFORE HE CAME HERE?I told you to fix him because mine were not oh and by the way cami won't be in heat for another 5-6 months.WTF.GOTPITS U R NUTTIN BUT DRAMA AND IF U GUYS WANNA TAKE THIS UP WHY DON'T YOU COME TO MY HOUSE AND PROVE THAT M,Y DOGS ARE SO BAD?I never bashed bullyboi.FUCK OFF

[simms]

LOL. It sure has made mine! :D
Good to see ya, hope all is well. :)

[prettyfulpitbull]

i already know i'll be getting kicked off here bacause i'm not cool enough to get defended and for this post to be closed bye.sorry i lost my temper.sorry to all.by the way merles where every1 proof they are mixed

[gotpits]

so then show peds and proof of papers for your red female and post cami ped so we can all see
it has already been proven you dont have papers or know the lineage for the red girl

[prettyfulpitbull]

you got summin to say im me yopu all know where to find me

[prettyfulpitbull]

i never said she was being bred so w/e.shes on there cause i own her

[Red_Chrome]

I'm done with this thread. I "love" BYB's! They are so cool, I wish everyone could grow up and be like them. Oh, well. Well, you can show peds or tell us the lines they are out of. BTW- Colby never produced Red-rednose dogs. Sorry. BTW- your latest pup was rescued or bought. I can't keep up with the latest news. I would love to meet you and see your dogs. Their kennels and the shape their in. How old is Cami?

I tried IMing ypou with yahoo. Your not signed in.

[gotpits]

does the truth hurt? If you cant take the truth and heat, do the right thing!! Too bad people like you dont think others will find out the truth

Post the ped and registration info for your dogs

[gotpits]

No never said she was being bred,but went on other boards to find a stud for her and told people she was registered. HMMMMMMMM just because those people arent a part of other boards doesnt mean they wont find out. The i-net is a big world where people can find out ALOT of things

[prettyfulpitbull]

I've been on here for months with no bs if i'm getting botted than the person that started this should too.

[Red_Chrome]

why you so worried about getting booted? Have you been booted from here before?

[MR BIGGS]

LOL. That's one of our game-dog members!I knew that pic of the girl with the gun and the dog look familiar. What a crying shame. I wonder who else is cooking up bad breedings?
Hear ye', hear ye' you are guilty.

[gotpits]

well I did this as a heads up after I was browsing and lookin at many different dogs and then did some different searching and put thing togther. If you dont want bashed for your unethical breeding practices or your dogs, then dont do what you are doing. Stop trying to register dogs you know nothing about,stop tryin to breed dogs you know nothing about,stop trying to take in a bunch of dogs you know nothing about,stop taking rescue dogs and trying to breed them,stop trying to buy or take in every dog that you try to convince people to give you. I have heard you were tryin to take in dogs from other states out of the shelters and as soon as those people confirm it is you,they will cross post everywhere a DNA(do not adopt)!!It isnt difficult to do the right thing. I myself am not a breeder,and dont want to be,but if I did, I sure in the hell wouldnt do what you are doing. You wont even post peds or paper info to prove your side of the story. HMMMMMM does that mean you dont have it?? I know you dont for the red girl so stop tryin to find studs for her. That poor girl looks so young!

[gotpits]

yeah and by the way a gun in the pic with you and the dog???? What the hell is that?

[gotpits]

talk about a positive image! LMAO

[Verderben]

I have an idea how about we ALL go in the chat room wait like 10 min give people time to get there then everyone can ask what they want to ?

[Aceman]

wow, after over 80 msg,s I just caught whats going on here, I just had to put 2 and 2 together 40 times,,lol. Reminds me of the time I went into a video chat room and put my cam on, someone messaged me and said ,, Your name Troy,,lol, it was a girl who lived a street over from me,, outa the millons of people worldwide,, what were the chances,, hehe there,s eyes everywhere on here, so ya gonna walk the walk you better be able to back it up,,lol.

[Verderben]

Prettyful came in the chat to answer peoples questions.

[maryellen1]

prettygirl, if you want you can breed your female to my half pit half whatever, neutered male, he is registered w/ ukc for his lp paperwork.. at least he has titles, CGC, TT, TDI.....

BAAHAAAWAAAAAAA

http://photos.imageevent.com/princess21/rufus/websize/newcollars%20006.jpg

[MercedesMama]

you got summin to say im me yopu all know where to find meYea, sittin in front of a junky ass car with a piece of shit gun, thinkin your a bad ass bitch. Grow up spay your dogs and SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

[Defend2DaEnd]

ha ha ha I think it is hilarious that she skips right over the important stuff and only answers what she wants. Your not a kennel, your dogs are curs, and you are stupid! Now be gone with your :bad: self.

[miakoda]

And as for the statement that you never said you were breeding your dog, then why does your breeding page on your site show that you are?

[tommy3]

I don't agree with prettypitbull or what she is doing to the breed but personal attacks aren't going to help the situation. Personal insults aren't needed. They do not help get the point across. They cause people to ignore the message and spend their energy focusing on the personal attacks. Lets keep it about the dogs and the breed.

[davidlau_2002]

somebody help me say it ain't so. first the fatboys break up, now this....

[davidlau_2002]

Yea, sittin in front of a junky ass car with a piece of shit gun, thinkin your a bad ass bitch. Grow up spay your dogs and SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
blaizenJ!!!?????!!!!! i never knew you got the fire in you like that! easy mama! you're going to make me shed a tear.

[miakoda]

I think this thread has run it's course so it will now be closed. If there are a lot of complaints about this, then pm me, but the point has been made.

[14rock]

I must add something to this situation, Prettyful was kind enough to offer to foster a buddies pup in need, and it was decided if the dog was leaving my hands it was going to be neutered first. She obliged and seemed glad to hear that, and said it would make it easier on her end also. I was NOT alluding to her breeding this pup in my original post, but now that I have got the time to sit down, read the whole thread and take it all into account....I admit that is what my post sounded like. My real question as to "what your intentions were" was if something else was going on with you wanting this dog, and maybe a happy, healthy, adba reg. pitbull gets "lost" and a small fee be dropped off at your house, you using the pup as a stud had not crossed my mind. I missed out on the chat session, so I want to make it public here.