True Gamedogs (Video)

[CB]

So i was looking at some vids online. And i finnaly found some TRUE gamedogs. Take a look at these dogs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWVY5vr1r0&search=pit%20bull%20

[gamebred26]

every dog there was way overweight....and mixed

[B]

LOL.... that is horrible. Those dogs all get along just well and are massively overweight and horrible looking. I hope everyone realizes that CB was being highly sarcastic.

Regards,

B

[badger]

i think your beating a dead horse! what happened to all the good stuff about this breed guys? seems like everyone is so stuck on cutting up the big blue man biters......always worried about what everyone else is doing.jmo

[CB]

I was being VERY Sarcastic about them being true gamedogs lol.

[Dameon]

WOW!!! that is crazy. i thought the video was a joke until the end.

[cjgun]

wow, majority of them looked like they just swallowed a pig.

[Phebes]

They all look like little piglets.

[Bullyboi]

lmao this was funny...

[Big Papa]

my thing is taking to dang long to load ahhh

[MR BIGGS]

What a damn shame. Not one of those dogs even looked like it had the energy to run or make any quick movements.

[sy82nj]

nice looking dog. but they were overweight and over dressed. with all the spiked and chain hardware

[ikidmyself]

That was a complete waste of time all they showed were fat dogs walking around and eating???

[14rock]

fo sho, dem spikes and chain leashes made those mofo's BAD!!! You see how big dem dogs were, a man strong enough to walk one of those must have a dick that swings to the ground. REPRESENT!!





ROFL Thanks for the laugh, I needed that. HAHAHAHA

[LONGHORNS]

So i was looking at some vids online. And i finnaly found some TRUE gamedogs. Take a look at these dogs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWVY5vr1r0&search=pit%20bull%20

Pardon me CB but this dogs are not the true GAME DOGS

[NCPatchwork]

Hey now...we do need to love each and EVERY Pit Bull...large and small. Now some of them were not pits...but most were...love is love...If we don't love them...who will

[14rock]

I dont mind the dogs, its the idiot owners I have a problem with. Grow your own and stop exploiting those sickly dogs!

[debodebo]

Those were not true American Pit Bulls. They were mutts that were bred with a bigger dog somewhere down the line.

[Aceman]

So i was looking at some vids online. And i finnaly found some TRUE gamedogs. Take a look at these dogs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWVY5vr1r0&search=pit%20bull%20


Is that what happens when you over feed your pooch,,lol.

[Bullyboi]

guys he was exagerating. sp?....we all know there not game dogs nor pits lmao

[NCPatchwork]

True..its sad what they do...but I love the dogs anyways...just need a diet plan.

[MercedesMama]

Quick someone call Jenny and Richard! How can you tell if they are game or not, their all too damn fat to care..lol

[Suki]

It was the collars and chains that "won me over".....:rolleyes:

Good one, CB ;)

[GSDbulldog]

God, their all so manly & tough! Just being there would make my non-existant balls finally drop. . .

I wouldn't feel so safe bringing my bluff to a BBQ. . . For obvious reasons ;)

[gamebred26]

if my dog chance or debo was still alive they would be going nuts to get a hold of those hogs...you could not bring them around anything on 4 legs....

[pennsooner]

I wonder if that was an "elite edge" gathering? Elite edge is a promotional ploy set up by some Bluff breeders to encourage people to breed (and buy) blue hippos. Sort of a "see how cool the bully dogs are? Everyone wants one of these, why you can make a fortune seeing these dogs".


Anyway, those dogs seemed nice enough, but fat, and were not bulldogs. And yes, the owners didn't seem like the best and the brightest.

[jessiepbg]

Excuse me, but those dogs have perfect conformation...


For Mallorquin Bulldogs...
http://www.kutya.hu/0301/images/19.jpg

[TEXAS PIT DOGS]

damn cb i was about to rip ya a new one,then it hit me you were being sarcastic.lol.i was hoping you would know better.

[DiMaSaLaNg]

some of those dogs are winning apbt shows right now. :(

[Marty]

what I want to know is where is the Pit bulls? I didn't see ONE Lmao

[Defend2DaEnd]

That Dillwithit girl and me have a lot in common rofl

[catcher T]

I was being VERY Sarcastic about them being true gamedogs lol.
u worried me for about a half second,,,this is the image that Joe public has when they think pitbulls

[CB]

For all the people thinking i was for real then please go and look at my gallery and see if i was serious. I was playing around :).

[catcher T]

For all the people thinking i was for real then please go and look at my gallery and see if i was serious. I was playing around :).
shhhh,,I knew u were funnin,,LOL

[ohav4]

Those should seriously be considered a whole nother breed. I would name it the BluffBullyDog. Seriously.Ther is not an ounce of terrier in them. I have nothing against blue apbts because I own a registerd blue apbt and it is nowere near that big. She is 13 months,45lbs and in shape. I have never seen so many apbts in one place without any drama accuring its unbelievable. Im at a loss for words right now.

[twiztidpitz]

Welcome everyone to the fat dog contest!! Lets see who's dog is the most overweight and out of breath about to pass out!! LOL, thats a good video. Did anyone notice that all the dogs were gasping for air?? I have nothing agianst blues, but gees people you don't have to feed them the whole bag of food in one day! LOL

[Sid Finster]

As much fun as it would be to pile on, I won't waste bandwidth, except to say that, ladies and gentletrolls, watching this video should be mandatory.

Because now we know what this breed is up against. BSL is not the biggest danger facing the APBT, nor is it the good old boys who fight their dogs. No, I am not in favor of either of these things, however, the backyard backdoor breeder threatens to change the nature of the APBT.

Google thyself the words "Gottiline messageboard" and you will see that many BYBs are aggressively, unrepentantly proudly stupid. And looking at the BYB action in that video will show that, oh yes, there lots of them.

[gamebred26]

they all want to see who has the shortest heaviest dog.....so they can say

" yeah he is 17"'s at the withers and weighs 100 lbs."


too bad they have like a 6" vertical leap and can barely waddle a 100 yds. etc.

it's sad....

[Mercepitdog]

Give those dogs another name Because when they brought pitbulls to america all those years back, they didnt come like that

[cemoreno]

That was funny, quite the joker CB! Lovely hippo's LOL! And I agree that those dogs shold be renamed as a new breed.

[420puffer]

some look like american bulldogs, most look like english bulldogs. I bet they all think they're so hard n cool.

[14rock]

There was one that was most definetly almost 100 % mastiff or AB. Color him red and you've got a show winning Dogue De Boudreaux!

[italian2feathers]

I was being VERY Sarcastic about them being true gamedogs lol.
i was about to say those ain't even close...lol

[jankab]

LOL CB, damn it thats 3 minutes and 47 seconds of my life I will never get back!

[asaj]

Okey! If they are Pit bulls, then, Im happy to have a mutt!!!!

[mydawgs]

I just don't get it, what is the facination with that? I think Mia is right are these guys just more Paris Hiltons with their version of a fashion accessory....I would think they would want some real athletes.....or something tough looking other than the collar??????

[SMOKIN HEMI]

I guess the good thing about that was that they were organized and had what seems to be a successful dog show. THE DOGS WERE FAT AND LAZY but that is what is popular now. I could not imagine Smokey being that close to another grown dog and not going for it, he would have lost his mind. That was the first thing i told my girlfriend when I saw the video. They did have some nice bully dog gear.

[gamebred26]

...and the best part is....do you see how much they charge for those dogs....and people are paying it....

[Chopper4me]

fo sho, dem spikes and chain leashes made those mofo's BAD!!! You see how big dem dogs were, a man strong enough to walk one of those must have a dick that swings to the ground. REPRESENT


ROFL Thanks for the laugh, I needed that. HAHAHAHAOMG ROFL! My thoughts exactly! Thanks for the laugh!!!

[Envy's Mom]

I hope this is not the future of this breed. I went to a Pit convention in Houston and I was so discouraged. All those dogs look like they were mixed with an English Bulldog. They should call them english Pits or something. Not american Pit Bull terriers. That is sickening to see what this breed came from and to see where its going. It makes me sad. All you true dog men out there breeding true game dogs my hats off to you. You are the only hope for this breed.

[maryellen1]

oink oink.. those poor dogs were so fat they couldnt even breathe right....

[420puffer]

You know whats sad. There are MANY people here in California that think these blue giants are REAL APBT. They have no clue what a real APBT is. When I walk my blue mutt, there is always some idiot who walks up to me and asks me if I want to breed him. After they find out he is neutured, they ask me why do I do that and once I attempt to start educating them, I can tell by their facial expression that they really don't give a shit and they're just all trying to come up. So it's really annoying that I have to deal with various types of ignorant people. Those who want to breed and those who think any pit or pit mix will try to kill people. That is why I try to walk him at nights only.

[pitbull_luvr0090]

Ok i'm getting tired of this bad mouthing of the big dogs!!!!!! I know dogs like this and their owners love them. I know not everyone can love the same kind of dog but this is getting ridiculous!!!!!! If you don't like big dogs then do not look, talk to, pet, or even think about them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In the eyes of legislaters and most people these dogs are still "pit bulls"! They all need love and they all need respect if owned and bred properly. I know this is a game dog forum but I love the big dogs too and I love the little dogs as well they are both affected by BSL no matter what happens or who likes them. And as far as these dogs being man biters have any of you actually been around one? And why would you think that these are the only ones owned by punks and criminals? I know as many irresponsible owners that own the pure bred "game" dogs riddled with scars and have made them aggressive to people so they won't get their crap stolen and so they can show off how "crazy" their dogs are!!!!!!! It seems to me that there is a trend of people buying game bred dogs and making them fight so that they can get "street cred". yes I know that blue is a trend but blue is just a fricken color! It appears in a lot of breeds and is popular in Cane Corso, Neapolitan Mastiff, Great Danes, Chihuahuas too. People just like that color a lot. I personally prefer a red nose. But that is just me. It seems all this board knows how to do is bash other people and what they love. I am probably to blame as well as I found a kennel and openly stated I did not like them because they acknowled that their dogs were manbiters but they were not necessarily oversized. I do not care if people breed their dogs larger as long as they do something with them, breed them for stable temperments and health test! But guess what big dog breeders are not the only ones breeding irresponsibly! Please people lets get off of these dogs and their owners and leave them alone. They are doing their own thing and we are doing ours. If you don't like what I have said then ban me from the board I will not be ashamed of my opinion or what I feel like saying. Also calling them curs well I don't think these people honestly care! Besides what does it matter nowadays if a dog is game or not if people trying to save the breed do not support fighting. It's not the size hurting the breed it's the dog fighters and dog fighting supporters. A dog can only be game if it has fought and proven itself game. A dog may run and chase a ball all day long and never get tired but you can put that same dog in a box with another and it could cur out in less than 2 min! So stop saying "well the good for nothing curs"! Why don't you stop being a cur and be proud of what you have and help the breed by stop being so snotty to people that like a different look to the dogs! I can honestly say these dogs are not chosen to be fighters but the people that still breed "game" dogs are predominantly fighting the dogs! Why is it just these dogs that get the blunt of things. What about American Bulldogs? They have two different body types and people love both! Why can't we just love and accept the differences and just freaking get over it!

[CB]

Ok i'm getting tired of this bad mouthing of the big dogs!!!!!! I know dogs like this and their owners love them. I know not everyone can love the same kind of dog but this is getting ridiculous!!!!!! If you don't like big dogs then do not look, talk to, pet, or even think about them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In the eyes of legislaters and most people these dogs are still "pit bulls"! They all need love and they all need respect if owned and bred properly. I know this is a game dog forum but I love the big dogs too and I love the little dogs as well they are both affected by BSL no matter what happens or who likes them. And as far as these dogs being man biters have any of you actually been around one? And why would you think that these are the only ones owned by punks and criminals? I know as many irresponsible owners that own the pure bred "game" dogs riddled with scars and have made them aggressive to people so they won't get their crap stolen and so they can show off how "crazy" their dogs are!!!!!!! It seems to me that there is a trend of people buying game bred dogs and making them fight so that they can get "street cred". yes I know that blue is a trend but blue is just a fricken color! It appears in a lot of breeds and is popular in Cane Corso, Neapolitan Mastiff, Great Danes, Chihuahuas too. People just like that color a lot. I personally prefer a red nose. But that is just me. It seems all this board knows how to do is bash other people and what they love. I am probably to blame as well as I found a kennel and openly stated I did not like them because they acknowled that their dogs were manbiters but they were not necessarily oversized. I do not care if people breed their dogs larger as long as they do something with them, breed them for stable temperments and health test! But guess what big dog breeders are not the only ones breeding irresponsibly! Please people lets get off of these dogs and their owners and leave them alone. They are doing their own thing and we are doing ours. If you don't like what I have said then ban me from the board I will not be ashamed of my opinion or what I feel like saying. Also calling them curs well I don't think these people honestly care! Besides what does it matter nowadays if a dog is game or not if people trying to save the breed do not support fighting. It's not the size hurting the breed it's the dog fighters and dog fighting supporters. A dog can only be game if it has fought and proven itself game. A dog may run and chase a ball all day long and never get tired but you can put that same dog in a box with another and it could cur out in less than 2 min! So stop saying "well the good for nothing curs"! Why don't you stop being a cur and be proud of what you have and help the breed by stop being so snotty to people that like a different look to the dogs! I can honestly say these dogs are not chosen to be fighters but the people that still breed "game" dogs are predominantly fighting the dogs! Why is it just these dogs that get the blunt of things. What about American Bulldogs? They have two different body types and people love both! Why can't we just love and accept the differences and just freaking get over it!I think you have no idea what you are talking about and you dont know shit about the breed. Its not ok for these dogs to be over 100lbs because they are getting bred with different dogs to get there size and color and it causes unstabled temperment. And like you said BSL looks at the 100lbs "pit bull" just the same as game dogs and thats why we hate those mutts because they are causing are dogs to get banned out of states and when i say "our" dog i mean Game bred dogs. I have not been around a game bred dog that showed any sign of aggresion but i have seen these 100lbs blue mutts about to bite people. I even think it was Gapits (a member on this board) that got bit on the face going up to a Blue "pit bull" and it leaped and bit her and she has alot of dogs and nothing but game bred dogs and handles them everyday for years and hasnt been bit by none of her dogs. And then she meets a blue "pit bull" for the first time at a show and gets bit i mean come on. I think you should read up on the breed and get knowledge before you post stupid shit like that.

[scorpion king]

wonderfull,but how there APBT look in this ship are they using some staff on them????

[14rock]

Deal pitbull_luver, the day these mutts stop being called ''pitbulls" I will stop bad-mouthing their owners who are cashing in on a fad, and dont care about the breed as a whole. I dont mind the dogs, all dogs deserve the same chance. But I dont like irresponsible, uneducated owners ruining ANY dogs health for whatever fad this month is.

[PitBull_30]

pitbull_luvr0090 responsible dogmen fighting their dogs do not want them to be human aggressive. It's the idiot on the street who uses them as guard dogs/fighting dogs who thinks it's cool to have a big bad Pit Bull who lunges at people because that means they're tough. They breed for color, big heads, big chests, and thick dogs rarely doing health testing and for the most part they will breed an aggressive dog is he looks like Juan Gotti. I don't think anyone here has a problem with big blue dogs only with the big dumb breeders. I have no problem with blue dogs I have a problem with dogs bred because they are blue. I have a problem with dogs bred any color not just blue. It's sad because they're not healthy. They are going the way of the Bulldog (English) and it's sad to see the dogs suffer. I know a lady who breeds RE dogs and she loves them, no doubt, but her dogs are empty. They are like Golden Retrievers in a deformed Pit Bull body. The people who truly love this breed love them for the fire inside not how they look. That kennel (I assume you're talking about Classics) is full of it. The two dogs that are game bred had a guarding ability score of zero. As for the rest, they're not registered with a reputable registry and their papers are BS. In one ped they list a dog as being out of two different dams! I doubt this is a typo. They bred/trained them to be aggressive so they could be guard dogs. Guard dogs are not supposed to be vicious they are supposed to be protective. When people stop breeding the soul out of our breed we'll stop complaining. People separated American Bulldogs so they wouldn't have this problem. We did the same thing with ASTs and APBTs. AST were bred for looks and I have no problem with that as long as their owners don't call them Pits. If the blue breeders were breeding the bluffs as AST then it would be ok. If they were breeding healthy bluffs. They are ruining the working strain with dogs bred for looks that have little to no working ability. Before people started breeding Pits for resale we didn't have to deal with this BSL shit. Responsible people breeding game bred pits and/or fighting them aren't the problem irresponsible breeders/owners are.

Just my opinion.

[PIt4life]

ewwww, hippos

[tickdog]

dam them dogs would eat mine they are way too big

[Bullyboi]

So i was looking at some vids online. And i finnaly found some TRUE gamedogs. Take a look at these dogs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWVY5vr1r0&search=pit%20bull%20i was looking at pit bull vids and this came up lol. Its the same bbq just different version.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l3M4H85dQuI&mode=suggested_all&search=pitbulls

[CB]

i was looking at pit bull vids and this came up lol. Its the same bbq just different version.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l3M4H85dQuI&mode=suggested_all&search=pitbullsYou got to love it lol. Them dogs are just a breed of there own.

[JuicyCa]

I agree with the thought that these type of dogs should be their own breed, but I don't think it'll ever happen. People that want these kind of dogd will never want to lose the "pit bull" name because "pit bulls" are associated with being "cool" or "tough".

Idiots. I'm sick of seeing these dogs. Some of them are so deformed and unhealthy and all those people can think is that they want a million more like it so they can make a quick buck. They don't care about health or temperment or quality or anthing like that. Thugs and gangsters have found a new and LEGAL way of making money as opposed to selling drugs. This crap SERIOUSLY makes me want to hurt people. SERIOUSLY.

[Mudville_Monsta]

If i'm not mistaken this bbq was held at Jackson Ranch just north of me in or by Sacramento. it's an annual event and they come from all over CA. I'ts to bad to all the A.D.B.A clubs in Ca aren't having shows or aren't as active as they used to be and all these UKC branches or these type of clubs are popping up everywhere.

[Rasp]

Wow, now that's game! More spikes than a Norwegian Black Metal band. Loved the heavy duty chains and the guy wearing the spiked collar the most.

Going through some of the other videos on there and I came across this one. More than likely it has been posted on here already, I don't know. But if you haven't seen it, then it's worth taking a look at. It could make you feel better after watching it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9nnF1AeY6A&search=pit%20bull%20 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9nnF1AeY6A&search=pit%20bull%20)

[JuicyCa]

I hadn't seen that one yet. Thanks GSD! We needed that! I wonder what the breeders of those hippos will think after seeing that one?

[Jasper]

This is my OPINION. I like all apbt but how do you know they were bred to other breeds because of the way they look, the only way is to look at the paperwork and see if breeder were actually cross breeding to different breeds and hanging papers. And yes there were some breeders that did actually bred to mastiff or BD to get the bigger size which I think it truely wrong. What alot of these breeders did when short and bully style pits were coming up were breeding the biggest of the litters together or shortest together to get what we have today called selective breeding. Yes they probably can't run or hog hunt and shit like that but that's ppl's taste in this breed. Some are saying if my game dog was around them he would go crazy them mabye just maybe it's these game line dogs that are mostly at fault for BSL. I do think that selling these pups for a crazy price is just stupid since there not titled. People just go with the flow of things and since bullier is better as they make it seem in society today ppl just buy them to be on top of the game. Alot of these dogs are tru pits as much as some ppl don't want to face it. I just think we should support the breed positively whether being mixed or not because the BSL don't care if it's pure or not, to them as long as it looks like a pit it"s bad. Again this is my opinion so don't come at me harrassing me lol.

Jose

[GSDbulldog]

Wow, now that's game! More spikes than a Norwegian Black Metal band. Loved the heavy duty chains and the guy wearing the spiked collar the most.

Going through some of the other videos on there and I came across this one. More than likely it has been posted on here already, I don't know. But if you haven't seen it, then it's worth taking a look at. It could make you feel better after watching it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9nnF1AeY6A&search=pit%20bull%20 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9nnF1AeY6A&search=pit%20bull%20)I got a laugh out of MAKING it. ;)

You hit the nail on the head as far as spikes go. I could've sworn I saw the same collars before. . . When I saw Dimmu Borgir at Ozzfest '04 :cool:

[GSDbulldog]

This is my OPINION. I like all apbt but how do you know they were bred to other breeds because of the way they look, the only way is to look at the paperwork and see if breeder were actually cross breeding to different breeds and hanging papers. And yes there were some breeders that did actually bred to mastiff or BD to get the bigger size which I think it truely wrong. What alot of these breeders did when short and bully style pits were coming up were breeding the biggest of the litters together or shortest together to get what we have today called selective breeding. Yes they probably can't run or hog hunt and shit like that but that's ppl's taste in this breed. Some are saying if my game dog was around them he would go crazy them mabye just maybe it's these game line dogs that are mostly at fault for BSL. I do think that selling these pups for a crazy price is just stupid since there not titled. People just go with the flow of things and since bullier is better as they make it seem in society today ppl just buy them to be on top of the game. Alot of these dogs are tru pits as much as some ppl don't want to face it. I just think we should support the breed positively whether being mixed or not because the BSL don't care if it's pure or not, to them as long as it looks like a pit it"s bad. Again this is my opinion so don't come at me harrassing me lol.

Jose
So, eh, what do YOU think a true APBT is? Huh? Huh? How come everytime I ask for a history lesson on the Gottiline dogs, all I get is a bunch of "It's no of yo business", or "if you were truly interested you'd already know!".

If it was merely selective breeding that made these hogs, how come they showed up almost overnight? I don't remember seeing these dogs 10 years ago. TRUE selective breeding takes time, not your neighbors English Bulldog.

[PiTBuLL200416]

well well well another thread bashing these dogs, when is this ever going to stop. I love game dogs and I am not okay with these dogs over populating this world but there is nothing we can do about it. How is this thread in any way shape or form educating people that dont know about this breed. There has been to many threads on this topic and this is gettin old. Yes there are to many of these dogs around and that is bad but instead of bashing them all you have do is explain that they are not up to the true standards of the APBT and leave it at that.

[GSDbulldog]

Hey, I'm lookin' for some edumacation. I have the history of Razor's Edge dogs from the creator himself. NO ONE will (Or can? ;)) supply me with information on the formation of the Gotti line. Jasper is the prime canidate for it, he says he's been studying them for about 2 years. He should at least be able to supply me with some basic info.

[PiTBuLL200416]

I understand that and trust me I would love to hear about how these dogs relate to the Pit bulls of the past and what they are all about but know body has came and explained because of all the bashing they get when they come on this site. Beleive me by looking at them you can make assumptions and give your opinions but we dont know for sure so if we calm down for a minute we might be able to get info from them and find out what they did to get them like that.

[Jasper]

GSDbulldog I haven't been studying the Gotti line for 2 years but not every apbt that is bully was crossbreed why can't you face the fact. When I first bought my dog I didn't care about lines or what ppl thought was cool or not. I bought him because I like the breed, he was cute and wanted a dog. I don't know everything and I never will about APBT just like everyone else here. How about you join a bully forum so you can get your answers instead of bashing them all the time. If the truth hurts you about these bully size dogs being pitbull then that's not my problem. If it's a pitbull I'm all for it because everyone has there own taste. What's the real problem that this specific type of style is getting more attention then game so what. We should be worried about protecting our breed and teaching others that don't know about this breed to learn from experience ppl and not what the media says. When I walk my dog and ppl come up to me all that's on my mind is when they walk away they leave with a positive attitude of the breed.

Jose

[GSDbulldog]

but not every apbt that is bully was crossbreed why can't you face the fact.

No, some of them are "purebred". But look at the AmStaff- No other breeds were mixed in to create it, yet it is now considered a different breed. These "bully breeders" are essentially doing the same thing as the original AmStaff breeders- Only they don't want to distance themselves from the APBT name. Quite the opposite it seems.

If you take a look at Gotti, & then at a conformationally correct English Bulldog, then you'll see what I'm speaking off. If the founder of this line was a mutt, all of his (many) offspring are essentially mutts as well.

How about you join a bully forum so you can get your answers

I did, & got banned for ASKING the questions in the first place. The only answers I recieved were, "U'd know wtf u were talkin about if u really wanted to kno" & blah, blah, blah. It seems they were too busy peddlin' their (Ahem) "pure bred mutts" to answer my questions. If their customers don't care about the lineage of their dogs- Why should the breeders?

I do not want these dogs ("Purebred" or not) associated with the APBT. After seeing what REAL DEAL American Pit Bull Terriers are capable of doing, I'd be embarassed to put two & two together.

The APBT is a working breed, keep it that way.

I'm done with this topic. I suppose I'll never get the answers I seek.

[PiTBuLL200416]

My view on that Jasper is that the pit bulls have lost their way. ALot of old timers would say if the dog aint bred to be in the pit then it aint no pit bull thats why the show dog "Staffys" were made. They are pit bulls turned show dogs there for they are no longer pit bulls they are Staffs. SOme of these bullys are not even bred for show they are just bred for the big head, wide chest and that is not how it is suppose to be. What people dont understand is what pit bull trully is and thats why there are so many arguements about this.

[Mudville_Monsta]

not trying to stir this up again......but what line was under investigation for breeding in other breeds into their line, and what came of it. i think it was the gotti-line but might be wrong. it could have been razors edge. just curious.

[Jasper]

I understand how you guys feel about the apbt only being a working dog. I wish my dog was alittle more gamey cause he gets tired to fast and he's not even that fat only 73lbs at 14 months old. I like short and wide but to a certain point not these 100lbs plus that are so short there legs look like they want to break. But the truth is we can't stop breeders from doing what they want. My main concern is that no matter what style of pit we should socialize them properly so the BSL can stay off our backs. The more I visit this site the more I'm leaning toward game lines. As for what lines were cross breeding I heard De La Cruz lines were back then and that's from what I read online awhile back.

Jose

[PiTBuLL200416]

I know you wanna come together but what people here are trying to get across to other people is that there arent different type of pit bulls. THere is only pit bulls not bully type or anything like that. Until we here the history on these new looking big dogs we wont consider them pit bulls. Bully bred dogs and game bred pit bulls are not the same. They have more differences then similarities. I am not bashing or trying to offend anyone I am just being real.

[Jasper]

I understand I'm not getting offended in anyway but what I think we should all agree on is that the BSL is attacking alot of states and they don't care if it's pure pit or not as long as it looks like one, it's going to get a bad rap. I agree that breeders breeding for this bully style shouldn't have anything to hide if confronted about the history of the lines, to me if they get upset I would think automaticly that they are hiding something.

[realonebulldog]

Those were not true American Pit Bulls. They were mutts that were bred with a bigger dog somewhere down the line. Yes thats what I think...look how friendly they are to humans AND other dogs....look at the short legs ,the overweight the heads and the necks....you know what I think? This EXPERTS cross english show bulldogs with amstaff and maybe some real stuff....rofl...C R A Z Y !!

[lockjaw]

how cute ...i want a little blue pig too..

[Boss' Mom]

Oh man, pig bulls! lol I like how the owners look real tough with their dogs walking THEM. :)

[Jasper]

why do alot of ppl assume that the owners of these dogs think there tough cause they have a bully pit. In some cases this may be true but I know there are a ton of ppl out there that get game dogs just to act tough too. People that want to act tough by getting a pitbull don't care what line it comes from they just want a pit. As for RealOneBulldog why are you saying there not real apbt because there so friendly to humans and other animals. Now with all this BSL I think that's what we should want, and if your not for friendly dogs keep them out of the public view so it doesn't mess it up for everyone else like me who struggle to educate ppl about this breed because there so stuck on what the media says.


Jose

[PiTBuLL200416]

In my experiences pit bulls were loving animals when it cam e to humans but not to animals. In my studying I found out that was how it was back then also

[Boss' Mom]

why do alot of ppl assume that the owners of these dogs think there tough cause they have a bully pit. In some cases this may be true but I know there are a ton of ppl out there that get game dogs just to act tough too. People that want to act tough by getting a pitbull don't care what line it comes from they just want a pit. As for RealOneBulldog why are you saying there not real apbt because there so friendly to humans and other animals. Now with all this BSL I think that's what we should want, and if your not for friendly dogs keep them out of the public view so it doesn't mess it up for everyone else like me who struggle to educate ppl about this breed because there so stuck on what the media says.


Jose



I beg to differ. They get these dogs because they like the way they look. That should never be a reason for getting or breeding an APBT in the first place. Secondly, game dogs ARE people-friendly and dog-aggressive (not all are). So really, I'm not sure why you're saying keep them out of public view? Also, a lot of these so called "pit bull" attacks were done by those hippo dogs. The bybs who breed these mutants, breed unsound dogs all the time. Know why? Because they're out to make a quick buck. The owners of these dogs know nothing about pit bulls and IMO that is dangerous.

[Crazy Canuck]

I didn't know Muggleston had his own registry to show those Mastiff cross dogs?



Way to bring the true game dog back , just did it bigger and better lol, j/k

[PIT_DOMINATION]

Its like the breeders of those dogs looked up the true conformation of what a pit should look like, and decided to do the exact opposite....

[Jasper]

I'm not saying to keep aggressive pitbulls locked away I have no right to tell ppl what to do with there dogs but what I was trying to say if it's unclear to some ppl is that if your dog is aggressive towards ppl or animals not to get in a situtation that can hurt the breed more by letting it attack. When I bought my dog I didn't buy it to look cool or tough, I did because he was cute, affordable and I wanted to be involved with this breed. At the time I got my dog I didn't care about game lines or bully lines so I do think there are ppl out there that just get them because it's what they like just like you die-hard game fans get game dogs. I do agree that some are so overdone it's just sad, especially the price tag for something that just sits and eats all dog. If they are true apbt I don't think they should be classified as a different breed because there different. If cross-breed with another breed I really don't know what should be done. This is my opinion like always.

Jose

[420puffer]

Muglestons: Fat farm! theyre selling adult dogs for an arm N a leg. They breed for size n color only.. Bigger the better. When I was on Iron Cross kennel forum site, tahts all they talk about is size. Jsut about everyone there was a breeder.

[14rock]

Lets not bash specific kennels that are not here to defend themselves, no more will be tolerated on this thread ;)

Jasper- I'll bite. I agree there are idiots buying non-bluff "pitbulls" so they can have a dog hit the end of the leash and say "watch out...he'll eat Fido up!". I dislike those folks as much as I do bluff breeders, so no complaints there. We know true APBT's are generally dog-aggressive, thats the reason we stress responsible ownership so much. In my opinion, responsible ownership not only involves loving, caring, and providing for your animal, but working it, and finally keeping it out of altercations.

[realonebulldog]

why do alot of ppl assume that the owners of these dogs think there tough cause they have a bully pit. In some cases this may be true but I know there are a ton of ppl out there that get game dogs just to act tough too. People that want to act tough by getting a pitbull don't care what line it comes from they just want a pit. As for RealOneBulldog why are you saying there not real apbt because there so friendly to humans and other animals. Now with all this BSL I think that's what we should want, and if your not for friendly dogs keep them out of the public view so it doesn't mess it up for everyone else like me who struggle to educate ppl about this breed because there so stuck on what the media says.


JoseYou dont get me right.....this dogs are so friendly because they are for sure from english show bulldog lines , and english show bulldogs are so friendly to people because they have no other chance....they are sick show-cauch-potatos....they are not able to run for say 10 min .Some of this big and blue hybrid-pit whatever mixes are very dangerous to people because of the influence of pressa canario blood (BIG AND BLUE) .Pressas are most times man meaning dogs.However, they are mixed and they look sad short leged and fat.Fact. A game dog is something differend.

[realonebulldog]

Lets not bash specific kennels that are not here to defend themselves, no more will be tolerated on this thread ;)

Jasper- I'll bite. I agree there are idiots buying non-bluff "pitbulls" so they can have a dog hit the end of the leash and say "watch out...he'll eat Fido up!". I dislike those folks as much as I do bluff breeders, so no complaints there. We know true APBT's are generally dog-aggressive, thats the reason we stress responsible ownership so much. In my opinion, responsible ownership not only involves loving, caring, and providing for your animal, but working it, and finally keeping it out of altercations.Sorry...not generally...

[FearlessKnight]

WOW!! Now its people like that..that give us a bad name. Boy I thought this was going to be some kind of joke, funniest videos or something.....CRAZY!

[Rocky H. Balboa]

Here I am going against the grain (LOL):

Those dogs look happy and well fed. As long as they keep calling them "Bullies" instead of APBT or "pit bulls", I am fine with their existance. I am not too keen with the spikey collars but each one of us have our special preferences. Me? I like them ready for the task in mind and body.

There is no need to bash people having fun with their dogs no matter how off center their dogs appear to be. Again, as long as they don't call them what they are not, I am fine with their existance. They look happy and well fed.

Respectfully,


RH

[Rocky H. Balboa]

WOW!! Now its people like that..that give us a bad name. Boy I thought this was going to be some kind of joke, funniest videos or something.....CRAZY!What are you talking about????? From what I saw, there was ZERO dogs attacking each other, ZERO dogs attacking people, ZERO people in illegal actvities while with their dogs.

The group was attending a BBQ with their dogs. Looked to me like a family event.

Could you please tell me how THESE people give US a bad name?

[Rocky H. Balboa]

They get these dogs because they like the way they look. That should never be a reason for getting or breeding an APBT in the first place.Why shouldn't a person use "appearance" as one of the determining factors when choosing a dog/pup? You are going to have to look at the dog for some time before you are able to know if it will work or not. Might as well like what you are looking at for the meantime (2 years or so).

Second, game dogs ARE .......dog-aggressive (not all are).
Huh? If they are game dogs THEY ARE (100%) dog aggressive. If they are game bred, they may not.

[Boss' Mom]

You dont get me right.....this dogs are so friendly because they are for sure from english show bulldog lines , and english show bulldogs are so friendly to people because they have no other chance....they are sick show-cauch-potatos....they are not able to run for say 10 min .Some of this big and blue hybrid-pit whatever mixes are very dangerous to people because of the influence of pressa canario blood (BIG AND BLUE) .Pressas are most times man meaning dogs.However, they are mixed and they look sad short leged and fat.Fact. A game dog is something differend.
Pressa Canarios can be great dogs in the hands of a responsible owner. That's the key. Responsible ownership of ANY breed, right?;)

[Pitbull219]

Huh? If they are game dogs THEY ARE (100%) dog aggressive. If they are game bred, they may not.
Gameness and aggression are not the same things. Many "game" APBT's will ignore other dogs for the most part.....unless challenged! Isn't gameness a dog's ability to keep going in the face of adversity, never quitting, even if it leads to their death? What does that have to do with aggression?

[Rocky H. Balboa]

Gameness and aggression are not the same things. Many "game" APBT's will ignore other dogs for the most part.....unless challenged! Isn't gameness a dog's ability to keep going in the face of adversity, never quitting, even if it leads to their death? What does that have to do with aggression?
Yes, gameness and aggression are not the same things. Yet, a game dog is always dog aggressive but a dog aggressive dog is NOT always a game dog. What you are discribing is dominance aggression.

Good post pitbull219!

[maximusab]

Where's a bomb when you need one?

[Pitbull219]

Yes, gameness and aggression are not the same things. Yet, a game dog is always dog aggressive but a dog aggressive dog is NOT always a game dog. What you are discribing is dominance aggression.
Good post pitbull219!
Thank you. I hear what you're saying, and in part I guess one could say I'm describing dominance aggression. But I have read, in one of Mr. Stratton's books I believe it was, that there have been some very game, winning dogs throughout history that never showed an ounce of dog aggression outside the pit. And here's something interesting from this weekend, my brother in law brought his 10 month old chocolate lab to my house. My older dogs have met this dog and play pretty well with her. We definitely keep an eye on their play and intervene when it seems to get out of hand. My new pups had never met this dog until yesterday. When my dogs play together, they do alot of biting. But not once did my puppies bite this lab. They would jump on her, wrestle her to the ground, and slam their bodies into her and push their muzzles into her throat area....but never once did they use their teeth! But the lab had no problem using her teeth on them. After a while she'd give up and they'd play with each other, and the teeth would come out and they'd grab for holds on each other and everything. This is something else I've read about but didn't really think it could be true, some APBT's have no interest in being the least bit aggressive towards dogs of other breeds. Has anyone else ever heard of/experienced this phenomona?

[Rocky H. Balboa]

But I have read, in one of Mr. Stratton's books I believe it was, that there have been some very game, winning dogs throughout history that never showed an ounce of dog aggression outside the pit.
LOL, yes, I figured it was one of his books. If I remember correctly, he stated that some dogs do well with others. Meaning that they will tolerate specific dogs. That does not mean that THAT "game" dog will tolerate all dogs all the time.

This is something else I've read about but didn't really think it could be true, some APBT's have no interest in being the least bit aggressive towards dogs of other breeds.
Well, I think is not about "other breeds" but specific dogs. For example, my dog will go nuts at the site of any dog his size or bigger. He will also get anxious when he sees other dogs (his size or smaller). He does not get too interested if it is a puppy and shows no aggression towards them (puppies).

[Pitbull219]

LOL, yes, I figured it was one of his books. If I remember correctly, he stated that some dogs do well with others. Meaning that they will tolerate specific dogs. That does not mean that THAT "game" dog will tolerate all dogs all the time.
Well, I think is not about "other breeds" but specific dogs. For example, my dog will go nuts at the site of any dog his size or bigger. He will also get anxious when he sees other dogs (his size or smaller). He does not get too interested if it is a puppy and shows no aggression towards them (puppies).
Same thing with my oldest dog, she loves puppies....whenever she's around a pup it's like her maternal instincts kick in. She's also tolerant of some female dogs she has been around, however, she has never come in contact with a male dog she did not want to just rip apart, other than her father. I can only imagine this is from when she was a pup two separate occasions a male dog tried to mount her.....it was before her first heat and she did not take to kindly to it. Ever since she has a thing against male dogs. Females she usually can get along with when introduced properly. One of her favorite doggy friends was my mother in laws Newfoundland, which she used to drag across the yard by her collar as the big dog just laid there and went along for the ride. What a workout that was for her!

[houstonapbt]

I hope this is not the future of this breed. I went to a Pit convention in Houston and I was so discouraged. All those dogs look like they were mixed with an English Bulldog. They should call them english Pits or something. Not american Pit Bull terriers. That is sickening to see what this breed came from and to see where its going. It makes me sad. All you true dog men out there breeding true game dogs my hats off to you. You are the only hope for this breed.Now you see why I said I don't support most "shows" around here. Most of 'em are "bully convention" type shits.

[jiu-pitsu]

They all look like little piglets. Ya And we all have the catch dogs. ;)

[Twitty]

great vid, sike how many ADBA shows can you walk all your dogs in like that all at one time! and the collar and harness man must have made a killing off of such a spectal. But then again everybody has the right to own what ever he/she desire! some just don't know any better, others just don't care.

[coolhandjean]

CB, you are horrible. LOL..but very funny. LOL....
Pigs on Parade. lol.

[Fedor23]

YA' know sometimes I think that the owners want them to be big and fat. :(

[jaystreetsA4]

sucks that people get into showing with these deformed overweight dogs.

[Titch_Pitbull]

11 Pages bashing these dogs xD. Congrats everyone.