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kutiee25
05-01-2006, 09:34 AM
Well We Took Our Pit Chevy To The Doc! And He Does Have Mange But We Have Cream To Put On Him , Doc Siad It Should Clear Up Soon And I Think She Said He Will Have Another Outbreak Of It Again! Is That True You All? Also Do U Think He Is In Pain With Him Loseing Hair?
He Is Getting So Big Already! He Is 52 Pds Just 5 Month? But He Dont Look It! Will Have To Post Pics Soon!

Thanks




WINSTROL
05-01-2006, 11:10 AM
We Have 1 That Has A Lil Hair Prob Also Hes Not Bald Or Bleeding Just Flys Are Bad Here And You Have To Get Some Flys Off From Tractor Supply It May Help It Did Mine.......

findrodhere
05-01-2006, 12:23 PM
try nu-stock.com

kutiee25
05-01-2006, 12:41 PM
Ok Cool ! Thanks For The Info! He Stays Inside When We Are At Work! They Outside For A Few Hrs When I Get Back From The Gym! So He Should Be Ok! Gotta Keep My Eye On Him ! Since Here In Ga We Have Alot Of Pit Bulls Attacks

Tiara
05-01-2006, 01:34 PM
Look into upgrading his diet. Mange is caused by a mite that the dog's immune system is not strong enough to fight, so increase his immune system by improving his diet.

kutiee25
05-01-2006, 01:39 PM
the doc told us it was pass down from his mother! if we did need to upgrade his diet what do u think would be good! he gets a vit once a day! what else would he need?

14rock
05-01-2006, 01:48 PM
Put him on some Grade A food, such as Canidae, Timberwolf, DVP, Chicken Soup, etc. Besides that, I would also look into nu-stock, I hear it works wonders for mange. Yes, mange can be genetic and is becoming quite common in the "bigger is better" breeders, or just plain anyone breeding for the wrong reasons and not culling the defects out of a line. Judging purely by his size, I think its safe to infer he was bred for the wrong reasons....and that is why you are in the predicament you are in now. I've never dealt with mange, but I do know that keeping the dog as healthy, and stress-free as possible is the biggest step in battling outbreaks. If the dog is not already neutered, do so...you'd hate for 10 puppies to be born with the defect and go untreated because they werent blessed with caring owners. Mange can become quite painful if prolonged, the dog will scratch and open sores and bleed constantly.

For dog food look at this link

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findrodhere
05-01-2006, 01:52 PM
http://www.akitarescue.com/demodectic_mange-a_natural_treatment.htm (http://www.akitarescue.com/demodectic_mange-a_natural_treatment.htm)

RIVES PITS
05-01-2006, 02:02 PM
most people can go out and buy something that will help rid the problem pretty easy but after it wears off right back to the same thing bleeding ears and pestering flies. i treat yard with lime at least 1 a year and i will treat it about every other week during the summer with a lil cheap mix that works wonders and between uses the welping box gets drenched with this also to keep anything unwanted out or dead to keep from spreading to new litters. you can treat a chain spot with a dog on the chain with this it is diluted enough to not harm a dog.

mix 2 oz of bleach to every 1 gallon of water

it is about as quick a fix as i can think of for the doggers on a budget

kutiee25
05-01-2006, 02:11 PM
oh okay that is a shampoo correct, i will look into that also!
he got it from his mom! i just spoke with the doc he will have this forever iam so sad for him! but he is not stess out i dont think! since he is aways sleeping! but they said he will have to get dip if is does not clear up! so we will do everything to make sure he is stress free!
we dont keep them outside to long for the simple fact it gets really hot here in ga! this mange could he pass it on to another dog if he play with them?

thanks

stlcardfan19
05-01-2006, 02:24 PM
that sucks i have been battling that for a long time with my dog zoey(the fawn dog in my sig). the mites are finally gone now i need to get her healed. that really sucks. I hope you got it early.

kutiee25
05-01-2006, 02:28 PM
http://www.akitarescue.com/demodectic_mange-a_natural_treatment.htm (http://www.akitarescue.com/demodectic_mange-a_natural_treatment.htm)thanks for the info! iam going to print that out and put it the kitchen board!

thanks

kutiee25
05-01-2006, 02:30 PM
that sucks i have been battling that for a long time with my dog zoey(the fawn dog in my sig). the mites are finally gone now i need to get her healed. that really sucks. I hope you got it early.i know iam so sad for him! he got it from his mom! we did we nib it in the bud early the doc said! we just have to keep a close eye on him! iam sorry to hear about zoey! can they get really ill and die from this?

scooter
05-01-2006, 02:54 PM
Took our Mikey to vet with some sores around his back and sides that seems to have pus in them.. I was afraid of demodex or worse. Turns out it is folliculitis and he will be fine.
Baby shampoo was recommended cuz it is mild AND antibacterial. Also a cephalexin capsule as well. Also told that he is probably allergic to the plastic food and water bowls!!( ??) and to change to stainless steel or pottery type. He already looks better.

findrodhere
05-01-2006, 03:05 PM
oh okay that is a shampoo correct, i will look into that also!
he got it from his mom! i just spoke with the doc he will have this forever iam so sad for him! but he is not stess out i dont think! since he is aways sleeping! but they said he will have to get dip if is does not clear up! so we will do everything to make sure he is stress free!
we dont keep them outside to long for the simple fact it gets really hot here in ga! this mange could he pass it on to another dog if he play with them?

thanks
try to avoid the dip at all costs. Use it only as a last resort, dogs have died from mitaban dips. It's also a b*tch to apply. Go with the nu-stock, the main ingredient is sulphur, and when applied to the skin it does a great job killing the mites. The dip is also incredibly expensive, while nu-stock will run you 15 bucks.

kutiee25
05-01-2006, 03:05 PM
well looks like our pup has a long road ahead of him! but we will make sure its and enjoyable and stress free one! i hope he is not in alot of pain with this mange! he is still real playfull though

SouthernDixie
05-01-2006, 03:17 PM
What kind of mange is it? My apologies if you have already stated that; I didn't see it though. Hopefully it's sarcoptic because it's a tad easier to get rid of than Demodex - which is a PAIN in the butt. I've got an 11 month old male who after various types of treatments, is now going through the Mitaban dip process. His skin is looking great now, and he's got more dips to go - but he's losing even more hair. He's such a nerd. But anyways, I hope it all works out well for you. And just keep an eye on it. Also, no it's not painful to lose the hair, but the skin can get irritated and itchy, thus causing the dog to scratch itself raw.

If after the skin scrape that you get after treatment is negative for mites, yet there are still patches of fur missing, do as suggested and try Nu-Stock. It stinks, but it works.

Good luck!

kutiee25
05-01-2006, 03:20 PM
try to avoid the dip at all costs. Use it only as a last resort, dogs have died from mitaban dips. It's also a b*tch to apply. Go with the nu-stock, the main ingredient is sulphur, and when applied to the skin it does a great job killing the mites. The dip is also incredibly expensive, while nu-stock will run you 15 bucks. oh okay! so even if his mange is in his genes! i can still use the nu stock! the doc said she didnt see any mite or anything just that is was pass on from his mom! the nu stock is a cream or a shampoo !we are putting cream on him now, i will found out the name of it and post it later!


thanks

SouthernDixie
05-01-2006, 03:29 PM
kutiee25 go here: http://www.nustock.com/

It says guaranteed to cure mange or your money back. Well... didn't work for me, but it does help the re-growth of hair. Also on the site, there is a place where you can search for dealers of the product in your area.

kutiee25
05-01-2006, 03:41 PM
kutiee25 go here: http://www.nustock.com/

It says guaranteed to cure mange or your money back. Well... didn't work for me, but it does help the re-growth of hair. Also on the site, there is a place where you can search for dealers of the product in your area.so it wont cure it? their is no cure for mange correct? we might have to check it out! is it ok for him to be ouside since he has mange? we let him run around on the chain in the backyard for a couple of hrs! but we had the yard treated with lime keep snakes away too! so what do you all think about him staying outside?
iam so heart broken for him i hate he has to go thrur this! but i think he will be ok! (hopefully) i appericate everyones feedback and help, you all have been so helpfull

findrodhere
05-01-2006, 03:46 PM
so it wont cure it? their is no cure for mange correct? we might have to check it out! is it ok for him to be ouside since he has mange? we let him run around on the chain in the backyard for a couple of hrs! but we had the yard treated with lime keep snakes away too! so what do you all think about him staying outside?
iam so heart broken for him i hate he has to go thrur this! but i think he will be ok! (hopefully) i appericate everyones feedback and help, you all have been so helpfull
I would buy the nu-stock on ebay, it'll be at your door in 2 days.

SouthernDixie
05-01-2006, 03:51 PM
Yes it's okay for him to be outside. In fact, if you use the Nu-Stock, that's probably the best place for him since it reeks! (Though a select few do think it smells good) It wouldn't hurt to try, but I would definitely use the topical cream your vet gave you before anything else. He ought to be fine. Be sure to keep us updated on the progress! :)

kutiee25
05-01-2006, 03:59 PM
thanks i will look into everything you all have told me! iam so glad they have a site like this! i dont know what i would have done! thanks again everyone have a great day!

Attila
05-01-2006, 04:25 PM
cream? What is the cream supposed to do?

Ok I sat down with my vet this morning over this topic His method is a little different than mine. Ivamectin. Same product I use. However he uses a different method and dosage than me. I can understand why he does it this way but I will state this watch your dogs weight closely and for behaviors changes like lethargism and vomiting. Those are signs of Toxemia. You stop the treatment in those cases or reduce the end dosage down to about .5 cc.

ok his schedule and dosage for a 30 lb dog

day dose oral (by mouth)
1 .4 cc
2 .4 cc
3 .5 cc
4 .5 cc
5 .6 cc
6 .6 cc
7 .72 cc just over .7
8 .72 cc
9 .72 cc
10 .72 cc

do another skin scrape test.
the parasite looks like a small cigar shaped cell with 6 nubbin legs at the front of the cell shaped parasite. I have my own microscope here but you may have to take your dog to the vet for this. You may have keep up process for 4-6weeks depending on the severity of the case. Checking every 10 days.

I couldn't remember the size of your dog. I also don't know how bad your dogs condition is.

I personally use a different formula to get my dosage and do it once a week for six to eight weeks. and check every third week but that is me. I am a Biochemist and he is a Vet. The one thing he failed to mention that is very important is check for heart worms first you may have to go with demodeck dipping if your dog has heartworms. It is an expensive route of dipping the dog once a week in a chemical solution that works externally. The ivamectin is internal and kills all the parasites and there will not likely be another infestation ever in either route. As said by the others maintain a good healthy diet that boost your dogs immune system. Daily vitamins, B12, Golden Seal, and Echinacea extract daily. Natural ways. If you use penicillin you will suppress your dogs natural immune system. I have no idea what your vet gave you cream for. That only treats a symtom not the problem. Use Bag Balm or Udder Balm to sooth the skin irritation and to block out secondary infections. You can buy these products at any feed, farm supply, vetrinary supply stores. One last thing I almost forgot watch for runny stools. Anything odd. Ok your dog is 52 pounds I see. so add .2 to the numbers above. All the way down the line.

SouthernDixie
05-01-2006, 04:33 PM
Though Ivermectin isn't proven to get rid of mange, in many cases it does.

It sure as heck didn't work for one of mine. After two cycles of that, I got him off of it and turned to dips.

Also, I know a few others who were given a topical cream for sarcoptic mange and it was a successful treatment. I'm not sure what it is called though.