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Valley.Princess
04-29-2006, 02:53 PM
people always talkin bout blue being big overweight pits..

not always true...

my blue razoredge/ gotti

4months 40.6 lbs

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j20/_ValleyPrincess_/Image4.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j20/_ValleyPrincess_/3b2a524d.jpg




Big Papa
04-29-2006, 03:46 PM
um....no comment here i think this thread should be closed before anything else happens

stlcardfan19
04-29-2006, 03:51 PM
wow are you for real or is this a joke.

Bullyboi
04-29-2006, 03:57 PM
That dog is fat...not as bad as mine but still not in very good shape IMO. Im not tryna make you feel stupid but trust me he could stand to lose some weight...not as bad as many other RE dog i have seen though. It is a nice looking dog even though its not my kind of dog.

Wait uhhh...is this a joke :o

Valley.Princess
04-29-2006, 04:03 PM
how is that fat...

she is strongly built...

Ky_PitBulls
04-29-2006, 04:03 PM
4 months and he's 40lbs and you say that's not fat, my female is a almost 2 y/o and maybe 40lbs and my male is 3 1/2 y/o and might be pushin 60lbs and i consider both to be fat

Bullyboi
04-29-2006, 04:06 PM
You cant even see not one rib and the dog has hardly any tuck or tone.....My female is 2 1.5 and is fat at 41 pounds....

Valley.Princess
04-29-2006, 04:07 PM
how is she fat when i jog her 2 miles everyday and then some more activities

Ky_PitBulls
04-29-2006, 04:11 PM
it could be because of what kind of diet you have her on

Valley.Princess
04-29-2006, 04:12 PM
it could be because of what kind of diet you have her on

royal canin

Bullyboi
04-29-2006, 04:14 PM
Feed her less.....and it is normal for a pup to have puppy fat.....they should be fat at that age IMO.

N M PITS
04-29-2006, 04:16 PM
how is she fat when i jog her 2 miles everyday and then some more activities
yes that pup is at the ideal weight, for a full grown dog, yikes!!!

Ky_PitBulls
04-29-2006, 04:16 PM
exactly, i mean you cant expect them to be lean at that age, but still 40lbs @ 4months is big, but still some is puppy fat right now, in sayin that she is a beautiful pup

Feed her less.....and it is normal for a pup to have puppy fat.....they should be fat at that age IMO.

thedude04
04-29-2006, 04:19 PM
im with papa this should be closed this has been talked about many many time and well be talked about many many more times so lets just leave iit aat what has been said

Bullyboi
04-29-2006, 04:20 PM
Yup she is a good looking dog and has a nice coat.....still not my cup of tea but maybe some more pics would be nice.....She looks good for a pup..she is on the big side but hey most of the RE Gotti dogs are. Just take care of her and when she is older work her and get her into shape.


ALSO i dont think you should be running a 4 month old pup two miles......there joints and everything are still forming and that is alot of strain for a pup that big.

J M A N
04-29-2006, 05:41 PM
While I personally don't care for the bloodlines, she is a pretty dog. Let her be a puppy and grow but when she is grown be sure to condition her well. RE dogs tend to run heavy anyway so you will have to stay after her to keep her in decent shape. They generally won't be as muscular (ripped) just big without alot of conditioning.

J M A N
04-29-2006, 05:42 PM
[/QUOTE] ALSO i dont think you should be running a 4 month old pup two miles......there joints and everything are still forming and that is alot of strain for a pup that big.[/QUOTE]

I agree.........too much, too soon

Iverson's Pits
04-29-2006, 08:07 PM
she's not fat because of how you're feeding her...she's 'fat' because of how she is bred. no matter how much you run her and give her the 'proper' diet, she will always be bigger/thicker than standard...just because of how she is bred. she is a beautiful looking animal....but for most people here...not a beautiful 'APBT.' it looks like you take good care of her...but simply the way she is bred, lending to the 40 lbs/4 months...she is way out of standard and will be at least 70 lbs at maturity. keep taking care of her, watch how much you work her at this age, dont free feed her, and enjoy your cute pet.

Doggystyle
04-30-2006, 12:13 AM
I personally love RE, Gotti dogs, but only from a breeder who actually excercises them. My male pup is RExGotti and his sire is a solid 95lbs, with lots of stamina and great defintion and when he was a pup he had weighed 30lbs@3mths almost 4mths. I wouldn't recommend so much exercise for the little girl anytime soon. Short walks daily is enough or practice swimming a little. Regardless of what you hear about your dog, there is a right and wrong switch in your mind and when you aren't sure about something then turn the other cheek. If you're in need of more hints and tips for RE, Gotti, then just PM me.

This is not the site to discuss these bloodlines or any dogs bigger than what you see most of these people with(no offense to anyone here).

Edit:Not all dogs or owners of the above bloodlines are irresponsible in every aspect

MyBreed
04-30-2006, 12:23 AM
she's not fat because of how you're feeding her...she's 'fat' because of how she is bred. no matter how much you run her and give her the 'proper' diet, she will always be bigger/thicker than standard...just because of how she is bred. she is a beautiful looking animal....but for most people here...not a beautiful 'APBT.' it looks like you take good care of her...but simply the way she is bred, lending to the 40 lbs/4 months...she is way out of standard and will be at least 70 lbs at maturity. keep taking care of her, watch how much you work her at this age, dont free feed her, and enjoy your cute pet.
i was thinking along the same lines as this post.Your dog being razr/Gotti you should expect it to be bigger.We all know they are show dogs bred for mass and apperance.

B
04-30-2006, 12:47 AM
When I read this I was expecting something opposite of what I saw. I was rewarded with exactly what I stereotypically think of RE dogs... a fat dog that is waaaaaaaaaaay too big to be an APBT. Thanks for enforcing my view of RE dogs. You shouldn't be jogging any amount of distance with a 4 month old pup. Strenuous activity should be limited until they are at least 10+ months. I prefer to wait until a year to work any dog. It isn't healthy for a growing pup to be working like that. Let the pup be a pup. You might want to watch the feed a bit. Prepare to have a grossly large dog that doesn't fit the APBT standard at all. This is just another typical RE dog. Woopty doo and I'll continue to whistle and twiddle my thumbs...

Regards,

B

Doggystyle
04-30-2006, 12:55 AM
people always talkin bout blue being big overweight pits..

not always true...

my blue razoredge/ gotti

4months 40.6 lbs

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j20/_ValleyPrincess_/Image4.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j20/_ValleyPrincess_/3b2a524d.jpgYour dog is beatiful and has great potential of being a big muscular blue which will be hated here. If you feed right and exercise right, but not right now. Like I said Pm me for some positive info.

I sent you a PM

B
04-30-2006, 01:09 AM
Perfect age to be spayed. When are you getting the dog spayed?

Regards,

B

miakoda
04-30-2006, 01:22 AM
Hey B, good luck but I just figured out who this person is & there is NO getting through to her as she's only here to start shit & get people riled up. I don't deal with idiots.

GSDbulldog
04-30-2006, 01:31 AM
Honestly, the pup looks good for what it is- A PUP. And a bluff at that. I'm shocked at what I'm hearing. Had this been a gamebred pup, everyone would scream bloody murder at the owner jogging their dog 2 miles a day. But we make an exception for bluffs? If anything, this dog is under more risk because of the joint & hip problems it will no doubt suffer from as an adult. Valley, please stop working your dog so hard & let him be a pup! Real work shouldn't be done until the dog is at least a year old, as he is still maturing.

This doesn't mean don't work your dog. If anything, you should keep him lean as an adult to help reduce the chances of hip & elbow dysplasia that RE & Gotti dogs generally suffer from.

It's a good looking dog, but it's not an APBT. End of story. No amount of money, papers, or opinions can turn it into an APBT. A mutt is a mutt is a mutt. The end.

420puffer
04-30-2006, 01:42 AM
The dog looks good. I cant deny that. But I must admit that that blue dogs should be given a new name and should be classified as a different breed. Because all dogs were bred from a few different breeds and blue dogs have created a consistent standard. Your dog is about average weight for a blue dog.

whiteyransom
04-30-2006, 01:45 AM
as was mentioned, it's probably the breeding causin the weight. my females grown and weighs 44lbs unconditioned. and let the pup be a pup, the exercise they get playing is enough to do them. jogging them that much is too much imo. and gettin the dog fixed is a great idea, and should be done early on.

PitsInMass
04-30-2006, 02:28 AM
Thats a Big PUP J.M.O..... all blue dogs are bred for all the wrong reasons, Some are PRETTY "dogs" but is that what i want?... Most Blue dogs are bred for mass, muscle structure an Appearance..Well pretty much All are jmo tho

B
04-30-2006, 03:06 AM
Honestly, the pup looks good for what it is- A PUP. And a bluff at that. I'm shocked at what I'm hearing. Had this been a gamebred pup, everyone would scream bloody murder at the owner jogging their dog 2 miles a day. But we make an exception for bluffs? If anything, this dog is under more risk because of the joint & hip problems it will no doubt suffer from as an adult. Valley, please stop working your dog so hard & let him be a pup! Real work shouldn't be done until the dog is at least a year old, as he is still maturing.

This doesn't mean don't work your dog. If anything, you should keep him lean as an adult to help reduce the chances of hip & elbow dysplasia that RE & Gotti dogs generally suffer from.

It's a good looking dog, but it's not an APBT. End of story. No amount of money, papers, or opinions can turn it into an APBT. A mutt is a mutt is a mutt. The end.Must have missed my reply? I openly said that jogging 2 miles with a pup is 100% the wrong thing to be doing. I just went back and put it in bold so that no one else misses it. LOL. Do I repeat myself so much that people just skim my posts? :D

Regards,

B

ppeteypab19
04-30-2006, 03:22 AM
beautiful coat....nuff said...I hate repeating..even if I didnt say it...

bahamutt99
04-30-2006, 03:59 AM
Considering that she's probably going to double her current weight, how do you not consider that oversized and overdone?

N M PITS
04-30-2006, 12:58 PM
Hey B, good luck but I just figured out who this person is & there is NO getting through to her as she's only here to start shit & get people riled up. I don't deal with idiots.
yes that is who she is and what she is up to, the name says it all

Valley.Princess
04-30-2006, 01:42 PM
Perfect age to be spayed. When are you getting the dog spayed?

Regards,

B

she wont be spayed... sorry to burst ur bubble...

Bullyboi
04-30-2006, 01:43 PM
your not planning on breeding right?

Valley.Princess
04-30-2006, 01:45 PM
your not planning on breeding right?

im not going to breed her... but i dont want to spay her

Defend2DaEnd
04-30-2006, 01:48 PM
reminds me of the youtube guy I'm arguing with keeps telling me his bluffs are pits ::sigh::

GSDbulldog
04-30-2006, 01:48 PM
Must have missed my reply? I openly said that jogging 2 miles with a pup is 100% the wrong thing to be doing. I just went back and put it in bold so that no one else misses it. LOL. Do I repeat myself so much that people just skim my posts? :D

Regards,

B
I didn't mean you ;) I'm just saying everyone's calling the pup fat. Well, she looks good for a pup. Theres not much one can do at that age other than cut back on food.

GSDbulldog
04-30-2006, 01:50 PM
im not going to breed her... but i dont want to spay her
Then what's the point of keeping her intact? She can't be shown, she doesn't have the structure for that. Every other activity, a spayed dog can praticipate.

Valley.Princess
04-30-2006, 01:55 PM
Then what's the point of keeping her intact? She can't be shown, she doesn't have the structure for that. Every other activity, a spayed dog can praticipate.

why shouldnt she be able to keep her stuff intact

thats like askin you to chop ur dick or vagina off... what ever u are

GSDbulldog
04-30-2006, 02:00 PM
One shouldn't compare dogs to humans.

Why shouldn't she be kept intact? She's not breeding quality, she's a pet. It takes a more than responsible person to ward off trailing male dogs when a bitch is in heat. It's messy, and a lot of bitch's get awnery in heat. Spaying prevents numerous ailments like breast cancer. Why should she not be spayed?

Valley.Princess
04-30-2006, 02:01 PM
One shouldn't compare dogs to humans.

Why shouldn't she be kept intact? She's not breeding quality, she's a pet. It takes a more than responsible person to ward off trailing male dogs when a bitch is in heat. It's messy, and a lot of bitch's get awnery in heat. Spaying prevents numerous ailments like breast cancer. Why should she not be spayed?

i dont want her spayed

Defend2DaEnd
04-30-2006, 02:03 PM
Its so obvious that she plans to breed.

Bullyboi
04-30-2006, 02:04 PM
No its not planned it is "accidental breeding " lol

Valley.Princess
04-30-2006, 02:04 PM
Its so obvious that she plans to breed.

how is it obvious...

i have no plans to breed her.. i dont have time to do that... and if i did breed her iwouldnt be able to give the puppys away.. so there for im not going to...

GSDbulldog
04-30-2006, 02:04 PM
There's a good reason right there. Sacrificing the health of your dog for your own selfish reasons.

Yeah, I just lost my last thread of hope for these dogs.

Marty
04-30-2006, 02:05 PM
You asked for your account to be deleted, why did you make another one?

Valley.Princess
04-30-2006, 02:06 PM
You asked for your account to be deleted, why did you make another one?

when did i ask for it to be deleted... i never asked for it to be deleted... i went to log on one day and it was deleted... what does that comment have to do with this forum

GSDbulldog
04-30-2006, 02:10 PM
when did i ask for it to be deleted... i never asked for it to be deleted... i went to log on one day and it was deleted... what does that comment have to do with this forum
http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12696&highlight=delete+account

Valley.Princess
04-30-2006, 02:12 PM
http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12696&highlight=delete+account
for ur information i never posted that... so what ever...

Iverson's Pits
04-30-2006, 02:13 PM
if you dont have the time for pups...you dont have time to own that little girl the way you should. the only reason to leave her intact would be the future possibility of breeding. there are SOOOO many reasons TO spay her...and only one to leave her the way she is. so what's your reason? no one her is gonna be convinced that you want to leave her intact because "you wouldn't want to cut off your own vagina." but than again....what do i care...its your dog, and your pups that will end up dead, banned, birth-defected, or neglected. your choice. to spay...or not to spay....that is the ???



how is it obvious...

i have no plans to breed her.. i dont have time to do that... and if i did breed her iwouldnt be able to give the puppys away.. so there for im not going to...

GSDbulldog
04-30-2006, 02:14 PM
Better health. A dog that is spayed or neutered has no chance of developing uterine or testicular cancer; in females, the risk of breast cancer and urinary infections is drastically reduced. Reproductive cancers are common among older dogs that have been bred. Better behavior. Male dogs that are neutered when young are much less likely to roam, mark their territory (and your belongings) with urine, and show aggression toward other male dogs. Intact (unneutered) male dogs will go to great lengths to get to a female dog in heat—they will dig their way out of yards, break fences and leashes, and cross streets in heavy traffic if a female in heat is in the area.

Easier care. An unspayed female bleeds for about 10 straight days twice a year. She bleeds on your carpet, your furniture, the interior of your car, and on the ground outside. As soon as she has marked your yard, you can anticipate a constant parade of male dogs who will pace your lawn, howl, and bark. You have a fenced yard? They will dig their way in.

No accidental pregnancies. If your dog accidentally becomes pregnant, you will have to provide additional medical care—for her and the puppies—and be responsible for finding good homes for half a dozen or more offspring.

Valley.Princess
04-30-2006, 02:15 PM
if you dont have the time for pups...you dont have time to own that little girl the way you should
i have time for her but i dont have time for 8 pups...

B
04-30-2006, 02:25 PM
i have time for her but i dont have time for 8 pups...That is a perfect reason for the mutt to be spayed. Your ignorance continues to shine like a lighthouse in the darkest of foggy nights. Is there a reason you are on this board other than to obviously ignore advice and stir things up? Your animal has nothing to do with gamedogs. Perhaps you should find another board with more ignorant people sympathetic to blue bandogs and back yard breeding. This thread is getting bad fast so we'll just nip this in the butt before it gets worse.

Regards,

B