Turning on

[YoungLion]

what bloodlines are Known for turning on slow and which fast?(ie. redboy/fast and alligator slow) i suppose it depends on the individual dog it seems that some lines turn on slower than others.

[Valley.Princess]

i feel it depeneds on the dog...

[Pitbullmenace]

i think it depends on the dog and how recently fought the line was. Like if the dog's parents were game-bred fighters(hot lines) i think the dog has a higher chance of turning earlier, but if the dog has cold lines (haven't been fought in a while) it may turn on later than other hot lines.

[YoungLion]

do you think Alligator has a tendency to start slower than other lines?

[Pitbullmenace]

it really depends on how recently the lines were fought.

[findrodhere]

it really depends on how recently the lines were fought.
Are you making this up?

[Pitbullmenace]

No but since you're such an expert tell us

[powder925]

I am no expert but it seems from my experience that the more inbreed the dog, the slower they are to come around.Of cource there are exceptions.
That being said.....I have always seen jeep breed dogs turn on fast

[findrodhere]

i've already told younglion my thoughts. Try not to make stuff up, it doesn't get anyone anywhere.

[Pitbullmenace]

i didn't make anything up this is what i have noticed about the dogs from hot lines. Try not to seem superior because we all know that you aren't some leading source on pitbull knowledge.

[findrodhere]

i didn't make anything up this is what i have noticed about the dogs from hot lines. Try not to seem superior because we all know that you aren't some leading source on pitbull knowledge.
what are hot lines?

[Pitbullmenace]

any line can be a hotline. I'm talking if the dog is a direct descendant of fighters, like grandson or son to dogs who were fighters. Cold lines are dogs who were born to parents whose parents parents haven't been fought or even generations back after that.

[Pitbullmenace]

by the way nice dog in your avvie, do you know what line it has in it?

[YoungLion]

when i was younger i had some pitbulls that were fight crazy they were very agressive toward other dogs at an early age some less than 9 mos. but i know now that that does not equal gameness even thoug they nevr quit on me. so to have dogs that remain laid back for 2 yrs is diffrent. imust not revert and i must practice some temprance and let them remain pups no matter what i am used to. ive had a couple game dogs and it just so happened they turned on fast. thanx agan for the feed back findrodhere

God bless evry body i need some sleep

[gameexchange]

In my opinion I think it has a little to do with both parents and bloodlines. Eli dogs are known for turning on a lot slower than your jeep/redboy crossed dogs. But if you have some hot eli parents it will be a little faster but for the most part it depends on the blood. I have two 9 month old blazin hot boudreaux/bolio dogs and they are showing good but of course I dont think it's there full potential. So far all I can see is they have some hell of hard bites. It just depends on what you're looking for. If you want to sacrifice some time for a gamedog with a hard bite (boudreaux dogs) or a hot 6 month old with a soft bite(jeep/redboy) cause they arent' known for there bite just game as hell. But a gamedog can't hunt when both his front legs are broke.

[B]

i didn't make anything up this is what i have noticed about the dogs from hot lines. Try not to seem superior because we all know that you aren't some leading source on pitbull knowledge.
LOL! How recently a dog's blood was fought has something to do with when the dogs turn on? You are completely incorrect. All lines can have animals hot at 6 months or hot at 3 years. Certain lines might throw dogs that turn on sooner but that doesn't change the fact that they should be sat on until they are mentally mature at 18+ months. I've had dogs off Ch. and multiple winners that were acting like puppies and playing with other dogs until 2 years old. I've had dogs off of an untested bitch that were trying to kill each other at 8 weeks old. There is no golden rule and you are going to find variations in ANY bloodline. There are show dogs that haven't been tested or worked in 20 years that occasionally throw hot dogs. You are going to have more hot dogs off of a gamebred and worked line but that has nothing to do with when they turn on or decide they want to be bulldogs.

Best Regards,

B

[B]

any line can be a hotline. I'm talking if the dog is a direct descendant of fighters, like grandson or son to dogs who were fighters. Cold lines are dogs who were born to parents whose parents parents haven't been fought or even generations back after that.Cold dogs are dogs that won't take hold at all. They don't turn on. They will take abuse and not fight back. Cold has nothing to do with whether the sire, dame, or grand sire and grand dame were fought. Little Gator ROM was an example of a cold dog. He never turned on but he threw some bad ass dogs that are STILL representing their bloodline as gamedogs to this day. Where are you getting your information?

Regards,

B

[ppeteypab19]

I agree with B, it all depends on the dog...they kinda remind me of kids....they all develope differantly....

[TRENCHHOUND]

I agree with B, it all depends on the dog...they kinda remind me of kids....they all develope differantly....
i see your point but the apple don't fall far from the tree,and theres know real answer so pitbullmenace just might be right.its his opinion from his life experiences.dogmen usually breed dog with what there looking for to try to get the result they want

[Ja-net]

A puppy turning on is when you see it happen there are no absolute theorys as to when a pup will turn on even if he does come from proven parents some will go full on like actual adults at only 6 weeks old some wont even start untill 3-4 years old.

[XxKonnectionsxX]

i think it depends on the dog and how recently fought the line was. Like if the dog's parents were game-bred fighters(hot lines) i think the dog has a higher chance of turning earlier, but if the dog has cold lines (haven't been fought in a while) it may turn on later than other hot lines.
You are giving incorrect information.

[Iverson's Pits]

the individual decision to turn or not is based on genetics...how they were bred. just because joe blow decided to fight his dog, and jane smith decided not to, doesn't effect the outcome of the future generations decisions to fight or fly. so do you think that if a proven line of dogs was not fought for 3 generations...the offspring would then 'decide' they didn't want to cuz 'its not what my grand pappy did!' ????

[YoungLion]

this is some good info and feedback. its good to see people still have time to discuss gamedogs as opposed to the BLUE dog debate. B thanx for the feed back i totally agree. i have heard redboy dogs fire up early and are famous for thier gameness but the mouth is below avererage(depending on the dog) i guess thats why so many people here in VA are so crazy about redboy and its crosses. (thier intensity and gamness) ive never owned a redboy dog myself. i asked because i wonder about the alligator line in particular(PLUMBERS by way of Carver/Tudor/Crenswhaw) are the alligator dogs known for firing up slow now days? (generally speaking) if any body has alligator dogs by way of Hammonds or any other sources can you give me some feedback on this and any other traits that make this your line of choice.


God bless

[wisconsindog]

your best bet is to wait untill a dog is 3 years old before u put him in the bocks cold or not if he is younger then that he might not do what he is acting like he will do!

[ChAnimal]

It is mostly a line thing. I said mostly because there are exceptions.

[jeeperino]

It's been said that breeders would say wait until they are 2 or 3 just to get peoples money. I know that the BUTCHER BOY stuff and PATRICKS dogs are known for being fast starters. I think the younger you start em the better IMO.

YIS