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BoiBoi
04-26-2006, 11:51 AM
I'm wondering if anyone has seen the Off The Chain DVD, its a documentary on the history of dog fighting in the US, I have it and would like to get some opinions on what others think




powder925
04-26-2006, 11:53 AM
I have never seen it.I have been trying to find it on the net for awhile now but I have had no luck.I have heard mixed reviews

SouthernDixie
04-26-2006, 11:55 AM
http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7751&highlight=off+the+chain

Pitbull4
04-26-2006, 01:02 PM
Man i have it and it aint a good movie plus everybody goes to jail if we talking about the same movie

Rocky H. Balboa
04-26-2006, 01:04 PM
BS, BS, BS....that sums it up. It was made by the same organizations that seek to rid the world of our breed. A % of sales goes to these organizations. You just funded our breed's destruction.

Ky_PitBulls
04-26-2006, 02:45 PM
exactly and well said......i have it and all it is, is a waste of money....but if you have to have it look on ebay that's where i bought mine at



BS, BS, BS....that sums it up. It was made by the same organizations that seek to rid the world of our breed. A % of sales goes to these organizations. You just funded our breed's destruction.

B
04-26-2006, 03:09 PM
Ignorant people spreading more ignorance to simple minded sheep. This is a HSUS / PETA dream come true. They got an idiot on camera validating their bogus arguements. This DVD isn't worth the $.29 media it was printed on. You would be better off spending the money on a good book like "Dogs of Velvet and Steel" by Stephens or "The Complete Gamedog" by Ed Faron. Stratton's books are great for super newbies but overall he isn't a dogman and has lots of erronious and misrepresented information.

Kind Regards,

B

scooter
04-26-2006, 04:01 PM
It was given to us not long ago. I elected not to watch it after I was told a few things about it. My husband was sick at some of the stuff. The thugs have taken over and this is what we get. The old days are gone and dead because of the thugs who value nothing but the dollar and could care less about an animal. They are about as far away from the "gentleman of yesterday" as I am to being Miss Universe.

BoiBoi
04-26-2006, 04:01 PM
I agree with everyone, this dvd was horrible thats why im glad i only paid 2.50 on ebay for it lol

davidlau_2002
04-26-2006, 04:25 PM
i watched it and was horrified at how it was portrayed. why is hip hop played throughout the whole movie? this movie portrays it as if it all started from an urban hiphop surrounding. but from what i hear from all of you, there are many traditions and respect given to dogs and men alike regardless of outcome. this is the only thing i have witnessed so i don't actually know if it is an accurate portrayal. the electrocution thing was sickening.

Tee
04-26-2006, 05:44 PM
I am from the urbin area and i and a few of my friends love these dogs and hate to see the breed depicted as it was on that film.

I feel sorry for someone that was trying to learn about the breed though this film,,...

davidlau_2002
04-27-2006, 02:35 AM
right on tee. i think the person making this video was really personifying a false culture at the cost of making hip hop and urban life look like the bad guy. idiocy is not culture related and has no boundaries.

Chato99
08-01-2006, 02:25 PM
i watched it and was horrified at how it was portrayed. why is hip hop played throughout the whole movie? this movie portrays it as if it all started from an urban hiphop surrounding. but from what i hear from all of you, there are many traditions and respect given to dogs and men alike regardless of outcome. this is the only thing i have witnessed so i don't actually know if it is an accurate portrayal. the electrocution thing was sickening.
I know this is an old topic but I wanted to discuss some of the ridiculous things in the movie. Why is a guy who wins his first match, dog a "champion" after one match, who is offered $25,000 for his dog after that match.

Secondly, they explain that the dogs that win three matches get the "Hooten" award from Your Friend and Mine. Huh? Where did this come from?

They also discuss how Off the Chain refers to a dog's first match and the so-called dog fighter decribes how his "little black dog" is going to have an "off the chain" match because it's his first bout, so the whole basis of the movie's title is faulty.

I think they basically found the most thuggish example of a dogfighter they could to prove their worst fears true. I have never heard of the sharpening of teeth method shown in the movie and the guy was also clearly training his dog out of a tiny apartment, which was kind of funny. I doubt that they even used real dog people, but it's possible.

Envy's Mom
08-01-2006, 02:41 PM
My dumb ass brother bought the video at a bootleg store somewhere. I decided to see what it was about. I was glad the entire video was not just dog fighting. It had a little history, but all together it not a good video. People buying the video are just putting the gun in the enemy's hands. It helping fund these people! The worst part on the video is when they electrocute the cur dog. Its dishearting and left a cold feeling in my chest. Just plain sad! Its not like the respectable game that the dogmen once played it has been curropted by thugs and now its a completely different game. Its sickning.

realonebulldog
08-01-2006, 02:50 PM
I know this is an old topic but I wanted to discuss some of the ridiculous things in the movie. Why is a guy who wins his first match, dog a "champion" after one match, who is offered $25,000 for his dog after that match.

Secondly, they explain that the dogs that win three matches get the "Hooten" award from Your Friend and Mine. Huh? Where did this come from?

They also discuss how Off the Chain refers to a dog's first match and the so-called dog fighter decribes how his "little black dog" is going to have an "off the chain" match because it's his first bout, so the whole basis of the movie's title is faulty.

I think they basically found the most thuggish example of a dogfighter they could to prove their worst fears true. I have never heard of the sharpening of teeth method shown in the movie and the guy was also clearly training his dog out of a tiny apartment, which was kind of funny. I doubt that they even used real dog people, but it's possible. Theyr Target is to show it as worst as possible.....you know for money are allways some idiots out there who will make a horror movie with you.

jeeperino
08-01-2006, 02:51 PM
Terrible movie. But, you have to admit using the dremel on the teeth (if it works well) is a good idea to get an advantage.

SAM_I_AM
08-01-2006, 03:27 PM
does anyone know where i can get my hands on a "free" copy, so that i am not just putting the gun in the enemys hand I would like to see it but i aint paying.

thanks.

BoiBoi
08-01-2006, 03:29 PM
Um yea i actually have 2 copies of it i think i gotta check when i get home. If u want i can send u one without the case and stuff to make shipping cheaper.

SAM_I_AM
08-01-2006, 05:03 PM
that would be great. what you want for it?

Bullyboi
08-01-2006, 05:59 PM
i have seen some of it on youtube ...total bulls**** ....if u cant find it on youtube tell me and i will find the link ..after what isaw no way i would buy that crap

misterdogman
08-01-2006, 06:16 PM
That movie is so bad it is at Wal-Mart in the 99 cent DVD bin....I saw it when it first came out and even my black friends who were here watching with me pointed out how the guys gave the dogs a bad name by acting unprofessional.....I threw it away...I couldnt be a good dogman if I let someone else watch it...

kryptonite
08-01-2006, 08:56 PM
It actually made my wife cry. It was quite possibly the worst depiction, in a negative way, of pits and their owners ever. I can sum this movie up with one word, "deplorable."

SApits
08-01-2006, 10:53 PM
It pretty much just showed the worst possible scenarios when it came to dogs getting injured and if the fights that those dogs came from were done professionally then there is no way some of them could have ended up with those wounds. All "real dogmen" i'm sure were offended by those lame excuses of dogmen. just my $.02

lockjaw
08-02-2006, 10:31 AM
sucky dogs ,sucky owners and sucky video...and they have the nerve to call themselves dogmen.

Mudville_Monsta
08-02-2006, 02:04 PM
Terrible movie. But, you have to admit using the dremel on the teeth (if it works well) is a good idea to get an advantage.
The thing with that is it's painfull for the dog afterwards and it exposes the inner tooth which later leads to tooth decay, breakage, and ultimately losing the tooth.

TEXAS PIT DOGS
08-02-2006, 02:34 PM
Terrible movie. But, you have to admit using the dremel on the teeth (if it works well) is a good idea to get an advantage.i aint gonna chew you out about it. all i am gonna say is,not a good idea and you should know better than that.

realonebulldog
08-02-2006, 02:51 PM
i aint gonna chew you out about it. all i am gonna say is,not a good idea and you should know better than that. L O L .....a dremel for the teeth....please gimme a break.Whats the next? Steel claws? Why have Idiots all the power on this earth and true people have to shut there mouth.....

TEXAS PIT DOGS
08-02-2006, 04:04 PM
L O L .....a dremel for the teeth....please gimme a break.Whats the next? Steel claws? Why have Idiots all the power on this earth and true people have to shut there mouth.....well it wasnt me that suggested it was a good idea.

Mudville_Monsta
08-02-2006, 04:12 PM
Truthfully when I posted it wasn't meant to stir up any conflict. I was just pointing out my opinion, and stating that in my mind it was not the best thing to do regarding the dog. So I hope no hard feelings are taken.

As for the advantage. I would focus more on making sure I'm working with the right dog. No matter be it conformation, weight pull or other venue, choosing the right one is key. Also proper and superior conditioning, combined with training is another key aspect to having an advantage. ;) . JMO.

Mudville.

jeeperino
08-02-2006, 07:26 PM
As far as exposing the nerve of the tooth, I guess it depends on how much he took them down.

Dont get me wrong, when I saw him do that my stomach turned. I would never attempt that. I just thought to myself when I saw that "How many people really do this?" probaly WAYYYYY to many after seeing the video.

I did have to give him some credit for doing everything in his power to win. I dont look at what he did as cheating.

I'm sorry for making it seem right or cool or whatever. It isnt!!



YIS

TEXAS PIT DOGS
08-02-2006, 08:18 PM
it is cheating in a way,but it is more that he is competeing with a inadedquate dog.and as everyone knows when you have a inferiour animal you have to resort to desperate tatics to try and just compete never mind winning.everything you seen in that movie was to compensate for something that the animal was lacking they were competeing with inferiour byb dogs and trying to make them out like they were GR.CH. just a awful movie with awful depictions of what a dogman is and how he cares for his dogs.

blackberry
08-03-2006, 12:33 PM
I would love to see it as well. PLEASEUm yea i actually have 2 copies of it i think i gotta check when i get home. If u want i can send u one without the case and stuff to make shipping cheaper.

blackberry
08-03-2006, 12:35 PM
I would love to see it as well. PLEASE

BoiBoi
08-03-2006, 01:05 PM
I would love to see it as well. PLEASE
go to half.com and do a search for it, u should be able to find one for pretty cheap

Bullyboi
08-03-2006, 03:26 PM
here is the vids on youtube....if its not allowed sorry mods
part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my8sFxfRIUg&
part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds1fV__Zyi8&

NYapex
11-24-2006, 11:03 AM
thanks for posting the video , now i wont waste my money on that shit

Bullyboi
11-24-2006, 01:24 PM
thanks for posting the video , now i wont waste my money on that shit The links i posted i have recently been told that is not the "off the chain" movie in those clips its actully another 'documentry" but it is similiar i guess. I thought it was it my mistake :o Sorry.

I wouldnt waste my money on off the chain though. Its propaganda and made by the HSUS. They are not a friend of this breed.