Loving All types

[PiTBuLL200416]

First of all I just wanna say that this is not a bashing thread so please don't start that here. Now that I got that out of the way I can say what I want to say. I haven't posted a thread in a while because I have been looking through all threads and looking at everyones post and do y'all know that the majority of the post are about dogs that peole breed that other people hate. All these different types of dogs are always going to be around because they are continued to be bred whether you like it or not. Now I have talked to a couple people and they just like what they like. We love game bred they love bully bred some love all bred LOL. Just because some of the people live off there dogs don't mean they don't love them and thats all they breed them for. Some of them really have real love for their dogs. We gotta stop all this arguing and fueding because its ridiculous and pointless. There are over a thousand of bullies running around and a thousand game APBT's running around so there is nothing either you, me or anyone can do about it. The point of this being said is because I'm tired of refering this site to my friends and they come back to me saying that they can't learn nothing because when they ask a question all they get is bashed on.

[DiMaSaLaNg]

to each his own! :)

[missybee16]

I told ya!!

[GSDbulldog]

Just deal with it? Our problems will NEVER be solved, even partially if we just "deal with it".

Words can be hard on this site, but they gotta take it if they'll ever learn. We all make mistakes. But not all of us learn from them. & if we can't learn from them, then we don't need to be owning bulldogs.

It may be a fruitless journey, but I will continue to fight against "those who live off their dogs" AKA BACKYARD BREEDERS & PUPPY PEDDLERS. I will continue to educate the uneducated, even if it means beating it into them with a 2x4, over & over again. Sometimes it's the only way to reach a person. I will not give up on this breed. God knows they haven't given up for us.

Ok, I'm done ;)

[sedaliapitbulls]

Right on. Good post

[Suki]

"I will not give up on this breed. God knows they haven't given up for us."


amen! Ditto for me!!!
you'll still be stuffing a sock in my mouth when I'm six feet under!!!!!:eek:


but, can we do without all the bashing??????
yeah, that'd be REAL nice imo.:cool:


as in:
http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=951

[GSDbulldog]

Hey, I've been "bashed" & "flamed" before on other forums. While someone may act all badass behind the computer screen, as soon as he logs off he starts to think about what was said. Of course, if it's a difference in opinions. . . No one will ever see the other side. Then it's best to agree to disagree.

But, I agree. Sometimes it's best to just hold your tongue & say nothing, or at least nothing that could turn into an all out war.

& as far as the bully dogs, I love 'em. I own one, a rescue. I don't want to see them bred though. I don't want to see 110IB bluffs 30 years from now. I want them to go extinct if their breeders don't clean up their acts & start breeding responsibly & seperate themselves from anything "pit bull".

[b_dog58]

I agree with GSD, (somewhat!). BYB's need to stop peddeling dogs. As far as bully dogs go, if a responsible person wants to breed em, fine, but if they're crossing breeds, sell them as mutts. Not pit bull, not "Pit Bull Crosses", nothing pit bull.

And yes, we can probably do without all of the nonsense.

[Defend2DaEnd]

So what your saying is it's okay for millions of Pit Bulls to be put to sleep because someone "loves" their dog enough to breed it?0

[japangame]

You know, i have been pushing the "Agree to Disagree" since i came to this forum. GSD is just telling it like it is. I have been bashed and schooled, but you know what, I LEARNED! Im with GSD 100%.

Read what my signature is. there is another one out there that says it just like mine. I believe it goes "IF YOU CANT SCRATCH, STAY ON THE CHAIN."

[badger]

So what your saying is it's okay for millions of Pit Bulls to be put to sleep because someone "loves" their dog enough to breed it?0

it is not just breeding, it is alot of people that cannot live up to the responsibility of dog ownership.

[japangame]

it is not just breeding, it is alot of people that cannot live up to the responsibility of dog ownership.
Yes sir. Not everyone can be taught, but they can be bashed until they f up or get out of the breed. If that is how we save our breed than that is what we will continue to do. Why defend idiots and bad reps of the breed? Sure, we would love everyone to be a responsable owner, but we would also all love for this breed to be accepted by the real public. We can not do that until we get rid of the BS BYBs and PP.

[PiTBuLL200416]

Thanks for all the response, I took time to think about what was said in response to this thread and I must say you all have strong points. So what most of you are saying is that if these bullies and other dogs that don't reach the proper standards of a pit bull are being bred thats okay but don't call them pit bulls. Another thing is I totally understand what y'all are saying about irresponsible owners and I agree 100% with all of you when you say that a person that can't live up to the responsibiliy of owning a dog they shouldn't. I, personally can take all the bashing you give me, I was just concerned about others. I don't care what you say to me as long is your intent is not to insult me but teach me. THX ALL

[Sid Finster]

T'aint so much the backdoor bred dogs that bother me - I feel sorry for them. It's the backdoor breeders that offend me.

[NOLEFAN]

It gets hard to respectfully agree to disagree when people personally attack you. We all have our opinions based on experiences we have had. If you have an opinion, tell why you have that opinion instead thinking everybody that is new to this site is new to pit-bulls all together. I have learned a good deal from this site, but it always seems to be a battle of wits instead of real discussion. Educating the uneducated is ok, but education doesn't mean having to agree with everything that is said. So many knowledgable people on here have such a variety of opinions on any given subject. I think people try make rocket science out of these dogs. Thanks for what I have learned on this site! Bash me, I'll just come back for more.

[PiTBuLL200416]

Well said and that is exactly how I feel, you just put it into words better than me. I have another question and please try to understand rather than judge. Do you think it is wrong if you just got laid off from your job and you have lets say about three children and your wife is pregnant and can't work, but you have two dogs in your back yard that people will be willing to pay $1,000 per pup and you go ahead and breed them. Is it wrong if thats what you have to do to until you get a job good enough to support you family.

[NOLEFAN]

IMO, family first, nobody's feel good advice ain't gonna feed your family. GOOD LUCK!

[miakoda]

Do you think it is wrong if you just got laid off from your job and you have lets say about three children and your wife is pregnant and can't work, but you have two dogs in your back yard that people will be willing to pay $1,000 per pup and you go ahead and breed them YES it is wrong. You should never have to use an innocent 4-legged creature to make a living for you. We've all been through hard times, but I would never ever ever consider stooping so low as to becoming yet another shitty byb & puppy peddler all for a loaf of bread. There are many other ways we as humans can be responsible for ourselves & our families without having to resort to the peddling of puppies all for a couple bucks.

Edit: Wanted to add a couple things. So a person breeds just one litter to "save" his family. Now what? If money is so very tight how can you afford the proper care for the dam? How can you afford the vet bills for the visits that the dam needs to make sure she's healthy? How can you afford the possible c-section? How can you afford to bottle raise all the pups & pay for the dam's vet visits & anitbiotics for her mastitis? How can you afford to properly raise the puppies until they are 8 wks of age? How can you afford to deworm all the pups & vaccinate them? Then what? You just sell to any Joe Shmoe thug off the street that wants one of your byb dogs? What about the welfare of that dog? What about the welfare of the breed? And what about the respect & honor of your family? Because after doing that, your family will have no respect.

[NOLEFAN]

there are other ways, i was just sayin as a last resort

[PiTBuLL200416]

What about the well being that person's kids and his pregnant wife. Some people are backed into corners and instead of robbing some one or some place why not breed the dogs. I'm sure the money they get from the breeding that person will use to take care of the dogs. So you are telling me if you had to live pay check to pay check just to get by and you loose that paycheck because you lost your job while having three kids and one on the way you wouldn't breed your dogs and get the money to take care of them. Where I live alot of people do crazy things to get money, I've heard of people robbing others to feed there family and people robbing liquir stores to feed there family, but now you can't even breed dogs without getting looked down upon. Not everyone's living conditions are good and all I have to say if a person wants to breed dogs to take care of their family instead of stealing or possibly killing someone I'm all for it.

[miakoda]

What about the well being that person's kids and his pregnant wife. Some people are backed into corners and instead of robbing some one or some place why not breed the dogs. I'm sure the money they get from the breeding that person will use to take care of the dogs. So you are telling me if you had to live pay check to pay check just to get by and you loose that paycheck because you lost your job while having three kids and one on the way you wouldn't breed your dogs and get the money to take care of them. Where I live alot of people do crazy things to get money, I've heard of people robbing others to feed there family and people robbing liquir stores to feed there family, but now you can't even breed dogs without getting looked down upon. Not everyone's living conditions are good and all I have to say if a person wants to breed dogs to take care of their family instead of stealing or possibly killing someone I'm all for it.
I'm sorry but we've been in hard situations & I have different friends from ALL walks of life. But what I DO know is that there are plenty of jobs out there, even temp ones, that can be found to feed one's family other than resorting to the abuse of an animal all for the sake of easy money. For example, my close friend & partner in the dogs took a temp job at McDonald's for a few months after he lost his arcitecture job just to feed his family rather than breeding & selling pups from our APBTs or his Ca da Bous or rare Bully Kutta. Mind you this guy took a minimum wage job despite his having 2 college degrees & knowing he would make less than if he just peddled pups. But some people chose to live their lives by a moral standard.

[PiTBuLL200416]

I hear you loud and clear Miakoda and what you are saying makes perfect sense and I wish alot of people where I live could consider that, but you would be surprise what people do when they see minimum wage and a litter of pups $1,000 each. In the case I'm talkin about minimum wage couldn't do it.

[asaj]

What amount of dogs do you have to have if you are making your living out of selling your pups!?
I personaly dont know any breeder that dont have a job outside their kennel.
Im born and raised in Sweden, and if you were a backyard breeder, your a$$ would be the same level as the grass!

[PiTBuLL200416]

Please don't say anything if you don't read first, you never see me type anything about that person being me. I am in college and I live in a place where that type of stuff happens all the time. There fore, I used it as an example to see what people thought. That is example why arguements start (NOT PAYING ATTENTION).