Rod's Kennels

[CANIL PITBULL DEL HECIAN]

HELLO
SOME ONE HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT ROD'S KENNELS, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTACT HIM, I SAW A BREEDING OF HIM WHIT GARNER'S ELMO,

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=192859

[jeeperino]

Dont waste your time. YIS

[sy82nj]

i know the guy that breed yuki alexia he stays here in nc. pm me for more info

[jeeperino]

If its not gamebred its not a pit????? Is that your signature?? Well that ped has some Staff, Blues, and GAPS in it. Youd be better off looking in the ADBA mag or even the newspaper. LOL IMO YIS

[sy82nj]

paper's dont make a dog. jeeprino what bloodlines do you run?

[jeeperino]

Thats true. I beleive in that 100%. But Ive yet to see a Blue GR CH, CH,ROM, POR. I based my yard on FLOYD ROM blood thru CH. Spartacus and Gr CH Nigerino blood thru Nigerino Bitch Por. Thats being pretty general, cause I have some bolio and Chinaman(not thru Frisco) mixed around in there too. As long as that person doesnt think they are getting a game bred dog, its cool. Im sure you can get your pick of 100's of pups off Elmo from diffrent bitches. YIS

[runt]

who said the dog wasn't game bred,PR don't mean its not game bred,I'm talking about the stuff down from HEMPHILL,SARONA and some of that old CAMELOT blood, they were being bred for gameness not for size or looks .If these was the old days you would have lost alot of money and dogs,because a lot of people are still breeding them PR dogs to standard and testing and culling,and I know this for sure and they are being bred into some carver or TUDOR, eli,jeep,or red devil(norrod or some stuff down from ROSS) so don't get caught sleeping.;) THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUE WAY TO TELL IF YOU HAVE A GAME BRED DOG,AND LOOKING AT THE PEDIGREE IS NOT IT.:rolleyes:

[jeeperino]

Am I the only one who actually looked at the ped for more than 2 sec??? Ok its heavy chinaman on top thru frisco(not my cup of tea but respectable) but the bottom side doesnt have a single CH or even producer for many generations then it goes back to watchdog(Staffordshire) and blue stuff for the GREAT, HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER TITLE OF UKC PR. YIS


http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=192305



GIMME A BREAK!!!!! ONE MANS TRASH IS ANOTHER MANS TREASURE

P.S. Whoever you know with the Tudor dogs, tell em i want 10.

[runt]

title's,color,looks,bloodlines don't mean nothing its all about the dog,exp. titles because people stop reporting on what matters a long time ago,so titles don't mean to much and I'm not talking about PURPLE RIBBON(UKC),but I will agree on the Blue dogs,but I'll take a game bred OLD FAMILY RED any day thats been held to standards of old(GAME)they're still around just have to no where to get them:D

[jeeperino]

And Id take a game bred BLUE dog thats been held to standards of old for generations. That and $1 will get me a cup of coffee. Reality is about numbers and high % gameness in litters and quality all around dogs. It is, what it is. Of course you will have freaks out of any breeding here and there. Less gambling you do less money and time you waste. Why do you think everyone and their brother runs redboy? It has a reputation for being a very game line, try to keep the scratch in em. Hardest attribute to attain and keep is gameness. YIS

[ghost 1]

yep but even though it has staff and blues in it jeeprino...your sig says what it needs to say,,, all dogs are different and not all breed dog will end up game,,, the papers just mean it came from gamebreed stock known for there gameness,,unless proven other wize,,,

[jeeperino]

yep but even though it has staff and blues in it jeeprino...your sig says what it needs to say,,, all dogs are different and not all breed dog will end up game,,, the papers just mean it came from gamebreed stock known for there gameness,,unless proven other wize,,,


That dog will never see a [] so why does it even matter. Im sorry for wasting time and energy on this dumb shit. Yeah and pedigrees dont matter. YIS

[ghost 1]

That dog will never see a [] so why does it even matter. Im sorry for wasting time and energy on this dumb shit. Yeah and pedigrees dont matter. YIS
don,t blow a fuse jeeprino ,,, i agree the ped isn,t impressive ,,,,looks like a good petbull,,,lol ,,,

[jeeperino]

Just feel like a dog chasing his tail thats all.

[runt]

man I don't mean to get your presure up,I'm from ALA. and I have seen a lot of peds. bred similar to that here and (LORD FORGIVE MY SINS,I KNEW KNOW BETTER) also seen some in action when I was young and stupid and when mixed right :eek: .I don't know it might just be like that around here,the way I hear people talking about the old family strain on the board.And I have never seen one here thats over 65lbs.

[ghost 1]

Just feel like a dog chasing his tail thats all.

i know that feeling,,,hell i,m always chasing mine,,,

[sy82nj]

i know the breeder of yuki alexia and dem dogs do hog good and hard. he has 1x, 2x, and like 1 ch. from that yard.

[TRENCHHOUND]

JEEPERINO your 150% right,if anyone new to this game is reading this you should take a minute and think about it.don't go against the grain a game bred dog is going to win 99% of the time.now it seems everyone on this question has seen that 1% but it rare, really along shot.or a fluke.if you want to win [] get a gamebred dog,if you want to win shows by a showbred dog.but if you mix them keep them don't tell me there game.jmho

[sy82nj]

i agree that gamebred and show dog should never = a gameshow dog

[jeeperino]

If you look at Chili Boys gamedogs they have used a dog bred down from blue stuff (Lewis Solo Flex) mixed with some Gaines stuff as their FOUNDATION. I dont personally know about them, but it seems they put some winners out there. If anyone knows of this dog, please share. I cant come up with a better example of a winning game/show cross line of dogs. YIS

http://www.geocities.com/chiliboysgamedogs/

[runt]

so what you saying is that if you breed a dog that can be shown in the show it can't be a GAMEDOG?I don't claim to know everything exp. peds. but I do know I've seen alot of oldfamily reds bred to eli or carver or even reddevil thats competed and won over good comp.

[TRENCHHOUND]

im saying do what you want,show dogs don't mean to much to me.so if my eli female wins a show cool but im not breeding her until i know she game because thats what im looking for.if i buy a show bred dog and he's game as hell cool but this is my show dog and know i would not breed him for the[] AND IF I DID I WOULD KEEP EVERY LAST ONE.people breed apbt for a reason like game/show/weight pulling.you ever here someone say pits are great for protection dogs and thats not true but they maybe able to train there dog to do some things but if someones looking for a guard dog don't tell them a pitbull over a doberman.same with game and show some people do but why reinvent the wheel and for ofrn i like those dogs to me there 50/50 some do[] and others do show and pull.JMHO

[runt]

old family reds isn't my favorite line,it has been watered down alot,breeding for size and looks.But people now talk about bloodlines,it seems that in the old days they added old family or corvino to alot of programs for gameness,the peds. looked scattered bred.Look at jeep,tombstone and lots more.Most of those peds. to me look like colby/hemphill/eli/carver/tudor/corvino,it seems like all the foundation dogs are scattered:confused: but worked

[jeeperino]

Of course not runt, look at GR CH Gamblers Virgil. ADBA winner and [] winner or look at White oak biters ADBA GD CH Black Biter. Both special dogs in their own right. Would i breed to them? Dont think so. But I bet they would throw some good ones here and there(I think Virgil has) Nothing is set in stone when it comes to genetics either it clicks or it dont and maybe it will click the second time if it didnt the first but I doubt Id try a third time. Most of those old lines you talk about are dissolved by now and havent produced [] winners for years when bred pure. WTF is a Old family red??? Hemphill or Wallace dogs??? Id go with a Creeds dog over them anyday. OFRN aint what it used to be. IMO and lots of others in the game. YIS

To be general Jeep was a Loposay(colby)/Carver(tudor) cross. Basically honeybunch was line bred Dibo with Rascal in there. Not scatterbred at all. Tombstone was scatterbred on his bottom side but his top side was killer. It just clicked and survived the test of time. People were down on Tombstone back in the day from what I know.

[runt]

I love this,man I might come off like I know but I'm really getting my learn on,there is nothing like talking dogs:D

[DiMaSaLaNg]

If you look at Chili Boys gamedogs they have used a dog bred down from blue stuff (Lewis Solo Flex) mixed with some Gaines stuff as their FOUNDATION. I dont personally know about them, but it seems they put some winners out there. If anyone knows of this dog, please share. I cant come up with a better example of a winning game/show cross line of dogs. YIS

http://www.geocities.com/chiliboysgamedogs/i know that kennel, they are based here in the philippines..

i took this from our local apbt forum from sir kamikaze(armiel) i hope this explains it.


" Yes, it is.
Although there are a lot of AKC and UKC PR registries seen in some of the dogs way back several generations, these are all dually registered dogs with the ADBA and according to the Lewises in one of our conversations, these dogs throw the same kinds of characteristics everytime. The main reason they were registered that way is for the owners and kennels to be able to show the dogs in other clubs and at the same time..., hunt with them in a different club. Some dogs have at least 4 to 7 wins on them(unreported) as with Rozmus' Ruff McCoy, 7xW and even some have UCD titles(Utility Catch Dog).
Lewis' Solo Flex was a huge all white dog who was used extensively as a stud as well as that of Baer's Hoochie Man. Hoochie Man being the primary blood used by Island City Combine(ICC). I remember ICC even contacted me so they could arrange for one of their tight Hoochie Man dog to be bred with Pepper(and they are willing to come inland!). The McCoy dogs in her pedigree are direct descendants of the original Old Family dogs. They have been extensively bred and have a very good following. Martin Rozmus is the grandson of the Dan Rozmus who originally coiled the name Old Family Red Nose. Norton's Terrorist is a direct descendant of Adam's Gr. Ch. Zebo, 7xW ROM.
Although the dogs above are claimed to have been extensively tested and used in hunting/pit..., some, if not most, of their hunts were not reported. Watchdog's Gr. Ch. Blue Bully was an ADBA show grand champion, but his progeny is now being used as weight pull, catch/hog and Schutzhund dogs. Blue Bully himself was a magnificent hog dog according to his original owner Casey Coutourier(owner of American Bulldog Association). The dog was then sold to Si Fu Kennels when Casey concentrated on ABs.
Well, wordy as this may seem..., at least I now know my dog's history. Whatever people think about these accounts, it's for them to judge.

Pampalubag-loob ko na lang 'to! laugh "

-kamikaze-


Look-alikes:


http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pictures/7067.jpg
Watchdog's Gr. Ch. Blue Bully
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pictures/103168.jpg
Chili Boys' Lord Seth, 1xGL

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pictures/5273.jpg
Gaines' Fargo, 2xW 1xGL POR
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pictures/103145.jpg
Chili Boys' Pepper
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[runt]

nice info.

[jeeperino]

Ask and ye shall receive YIS

[CANIL PITBULL DEL HECIAN]

Good Post By The First Question I Made, Only Was If You Have Some Info On This Rod's Kennels, This Interest Was For The Dogs I Have, Is The Brother If Cheeser's Blacky. The Past Year I Post About Them If Some One Can Have An Apreciation About Te Pedigree, And I Have Some Of That.....that I Understand Now Is That The Pedigree Is Not The Dog, Is Wath Shows Is The Pit. Whit The Pedigree You Can Know A Little Of What The Pitbull Carry In The Genes. Every One Told Me That My Dogs Are Scatter Breed, Show Dogs, But What They Made Down Here Was Great*Edit-discussion of illegal activities. 14rock.