Report this kennel as abuse of dogs?

[prettyfulpitbull]

I got a puppy from this kennel.She was skinny had an eye infection and pooped blood for a long time.There are no refunds on the contract either.Check out this link and tell me what you think should be done.Thanksare some pics from the site but there are more.Look carefully and tell me what you see.

[Verderben]

I think they need to stop breeding thier mutts and stop ripping people off. and if the dog was sick and skinny I would have someone look into that. I would never sell someone a sick skinny dog that is just wrong.

[bahamutt99]

I don't understand why they think that breeding cheap puppies will cut down on the number unwanted APBTs ending up in shelters. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/bahamutt99/icons/crazy.gif

[prettyfulpitbull]

Please,please see these dogs.

[prettyfulpitbull]

here's some pics

[prettyfulpitbull]

Enlarge the pics you can see better by doing so.

[prettyfulpitbull]

Can Anyone Throw Ideas Out There To Help Me Know What To Do?

[Suki]

Sadly, with no refunds on the contract, from a monetary standpoint, you're pretty much screwed. Right there, that should have sent up red flags, so, chalk it all up to a learning experience.

If they're a registered kennel, make copies of your vet receipts, and see if the attorney general can be of help, and get your vet to "back you up".
I HATE pukes like that!!!!!!:mad:
If the A.G. cannot help, ask your vet if he/she has another direction to take.
Sounds shady and unscrupulous:just the kind of A-holes this breed does NOT need!!!!

[prettyfulpitbull]

Byb will do anything to cover themselves.I'm sure this will be taken to court if so i'll keep everyone updated.My dogs are like my kids although i get frustrated sometimes i would never beat them as this only makes them degress more

[lonesharkpits]

can't get the link to work.........why would you buy a dog from these people?????

[Defend2DaEnd]

Link doesn't work. Taught you something at least.

[SLICK WILLIE]

Sounds like you pissed in the wind on this one. I'd be a little bit more mature about what I posted on here if I were you. You may get an ass kickin for being stupid!

.i felt bad for the dog

[DryCreek]

The two pics you posted look like healthy dogs to me. I never got to see the site, but I agree with Slick. Can you show us a picture of this skinny puppy you have showing its eye infection?

[SLICK WILLIE]

Hey, DRYCREEK! I seen the site and looks like some staffy's and amstaffs thrown in the mix and the dogs did not look that bad as far as I seen. If it were such a big deal to her she should have never obtained a pup from them. If feeling sorry for dogs is how she gets her fix then she'll always have crap dogs for pets! After review of the website, seems they do have a contract that states if the pup or dog has anything wrong within 48hrs they will make it right with the buyer.

The two pics you posted look like healthy dogs to me. I never got to see the site, but I agree with Slick. Can you show us a picture of this skinny puppy you have showing its eye infection?

[Riptora]

Not very different from a pet shop. The pups purchased or on desplay at the pet stores almost always have the same issues. They have various infections and often poop blood which is a result of worms usually. They almost always have kennel cough and sometimes pnemonia, which pnemonia by the way leaves perminent damage to the organs. Scarring, weakens their bodies for the long run. So does all the other crap infections and parasites. It leaves a scar on the organs and if a pup is spending most of it's puppy hood ill and not getting around, there goes a good step of it's emotional development as well. It's all just a bad scene. Crap kennels and pet stores are the same make-up.

[bahamutt99]

I'm not trying to be ignorant, but by buying the dog because you felt bad for it, you're basically supporting the kennel and verifying that they are right by breeding. If they can't sell dogs, they (probably) wont breed dogs. If there is no health guarantee written into the contract, you aren't going to get anything back. As for abuse, its hard to prove.

[prettyfulpitbull]

Believe what you want but apparently you didn't look hard enough.I'm sorry I pityed that poor thing and got her healthy.I'm sorry that I never recieved papers on this puppy from the time I got her to the time I returned her for snapping at a child.But if you're so sure i'm lying why don't you buy a dog from there.

[prettyfulpitbull]

You are right by doing that I did support them.I admit my wrong doing by I returned the dog due to snapping at a child.I'm just trying to warn everyone here but I guess it's ok to sell sick dogs with no papers and breed dogs off the street.Well if you choose to be a BYB that's your choice but don't come crying on here when you get sued for selling sick filfthy dogs to people who don't know any better.

[Verderben]

The woman who owns the kennel is wierd. She really doesnt know anything about pit bulls and doesnt know anything about breeding other than you need a boy dog and a girl dog. The dogs are kept in nasty conditions. Daisy was NASTY when prettyful got her. She was covered in feces and scared to death of her own shadow. She also was very sick and pooping blood and had a bad eye infection in both eyes. If you look on the forsale page you can easily see the other ones also have something wrong with thier eyes. The one male's eyes are so clouded he almost looks blind IMO.

[Iverson's Pits]

Those older pups do not look healthy, and yes, there is something wrong with their eyes. She's also breeding a merle bitch...so much for "breeding sound, conformationally correct APBT's...."

Is it any wonder that these people are distributors of the "cover-up-drug", as I like to call it - "Nu Vet" I think someone was asking about that stuff a couple days ago. There's another example.

[prettyfulpitbull]

OMG iverson this lady told me that she had a pup returned cause the people who got it didn't give the pills and it got sick!!!!

[Iverson's Pits]

I dont doubt it. There are people over here telling their buyers that the reason their pup's got Demo is because the didn't give it NuVet. Nevermind the fact that the mother of the litter almost died from demo, and threw it to 4 out of 8 pups!



OMG iverson this lady told me that she had a pup returned cause the people who got it didn't give the pills and it got sick!!!!

[prettyfulpitbull]

OMG well thanks for stating the facts

[simms]

What the Hell???? The pup was on antibiotics when it was sold....the new owner didn't give it the antibiotic and the pup got sick....OMG, and then the breeder took the pup back....OMG, LOL

I think it's safe to assume that you are a petbull owner, worry about keeping the dog you got before you worry about someone else's yard.

[simms]

You open your yard to the public, this is what you can expect.

I wonder does the owner of this kennel even know that they are being discussed as to wether or not this buyer should turn them in....

[Iverson's Pits]

I visited that site. I just left a comment in the guestbook about the merle they just bred. as far as the conditions of their "kennel"...I've never seen it first hand...its not my place. If its that bad, maybe someone with more insight should talk to them...but for me, i'll just drop a comment and be on my way. I got my own life to stress out about.



You open your yard to the public, this is what you can expect.

I wonder does the owner of this kennel even know that they are being discussed as to wether or not this buyer should turn them in....

[lockjaw]

..there all blue mutts and razor edge mutts...you should have bought a pup from a real pit bull breeder.:mad:

[simms]

Ok, I finaly was able to access this site.....

My appologies to the above statement, I assumed that the pup was on antibiotics.

[bak]

Well Kay(prettyful) it looks like you have messed with the wrong person!! You better state the true facts of what went on instead of false info!! You have never been to my kennel,I DELIVERED the dog to you at NO COST,you seen her in good condition,you bought her and signed my contract! I kept in contact with you every single day and you told me you had a few problems with her shitting etc... in the house and your husband was pissed and we know when she was first there that YES she was scared,and I told you I wanted to come get the dog back and you told me NO! You really liked her and wanted to give her time to adjust. I have the emails to prove that,then you told me she got over it all and was fine. Also some time later her and your other dog was playing and her eye got hurt and I offered to bring you med and check out the dog and you told me she was fine that I didnt need to. Now that I have her back (thank god for that now that I know how your dogs are treated,AND YES I CAN GO THERE IF YOU WANT TO THROW STONES) My female came back with scratches and scrapes,and knots on her head and I now know why. I WILL NEVER RECOMMEND anyone selling you a dog! Dont go slandering anyone when knowing in fact it isnt the truth! Tell them about your merle bred female that YOU WANTED ME TO BREED TO! Yes even after she bought the bitch that was supposed to be so horrible,she wanted me to breed to her.And she somehow got another kennel to give her the dog for FREE! She then told me her female got out and now may be pregnant by a mutt. After I took back my female she wanted a male brindle pup and I told her that I didnt want to place another dog with her and now she is mAD! And yes I have all emails about it all!! So even if you dont agree with what I breed etc...... what is right is right and I do take care of my dogs and stand behind what I sell except for when I find out people like her are abusing them,and just because she says it is true,you must have the facts! Anyone can call or email me if they need any more info on the situation. I am sure I will get some more posts about this,but I only come here to straighten out what is the truth and I can only hope she will do the same!!

[lockjaw]

ok when you you go to the site and click ....for sale...the puppies have runny noses and the cross eyed dog..dont know what the hell is up with that..also you have a puppies from a pure bred 70 pound female and a 75 pound male...pure bred what?as far as who is telling the truth dont know...but there is so much wrong with the whole picture..first and for most calling them apbt,s.

[bak]

I expected to get alot of people displaying dissaitsfaction because my dogs arent all gamebred dogs,and everyone has their own opinion about game vs. blue etc....... I used to only breed gamebred dogs,then I got my first blue and loved it. It opened my eyes to a whole new world,and I now own blue and gamebred dogs.I know some gamebred dog breeders who do infact HIDE their blue dogs for the fear of being knocked or called names etc.. but I wont hide what I own.Yeah I did breed the merle but she is to be spayed when she has healed after the pups. Anyways I will stand behind anything I sell or have for sale if it in fact proven to be any fault of mine. All my dogs are vet checked regularly and have all their medical up to date and are very well fed and taken care of. The pups that are for sale and are pups that I got from a friend of mine who wasnt taking care of them. The pups eyes have been surgically fixed,so that the third eye lid stays in place.That is what you are seeing in those pics.The third eye lid.Like I said even with them being dogs I didnt breed,I will still stand behind them being healthy. It was know before the female was sold to Kay that these were not pups I produced,but would stand behind it. I have the female back and all I can say is thank god. Even if you dont like blue dogs etc.... it is the truth that needs to be known and that is the only reason I posted here. I was not a member of this board until it was brought to my attention that my kennel was being bad mouthed!!

[DryCreek]

Sounds like you pissed in the wind on this one. I'd be a little bit more mature about what I posted on here if I were you. You may get an ass kickin for being stupid!
Sounds like the cat came out of the bag LOL. There is always more than one side to any story, and passing judgement on anything with only one side is like driving half blind.

[bak]

www.freewebs.com/prettifulpitbullchick/females.htm (http://www.freewebs.com/prettifulpitbullchick/females.htm)

By the way here is prettyfuls sight and as you can see the female I have had back is still posted on her sight(Daizy) that I have asked her to remove,and she wont post the ped to cami because cami is a madison bred dog also. ALso the breeding that I told her I would not do is also still there.

[StraightGame]

the snapping part is on your behalf you got to stress on traingin better than but the dog looks ok from what i see. I agree with the rest though byb no good at all. If you got ?'s medical on your dog jus pm if you like im in school to becoming a vet. You are right by doing that I did support them.I admit my wrong doing by I returned the dog due to snapping at a child.I'm just trying to warn everyone here but I guess it's ok to sell sick dogs with no papers and breed dogs off the street.Well if you choose to be a BYB that's your choice but don't come crying on here when you get sued for selling sick filfthy dogs to people who don't know any better.

[bak]

By the way- High Voltage knows nothing about me,and dont know how she even knows what conditions my dogs are in! It is funny that someone can speak on something they know nothing about. Also I have emails from high voltage asking about buying and inquireing about my merles! That is after Daizy was bought from me.So if she seems to know the conditions of my dogs why would they then inquire about my dogs? I know they never seen daizy in person or my dogs!

High Voltage- where are you located and they also stated they have a blue ruffian bred dog up for stud if I knew anyone looking. So why even bother emailing me if things are so horrible,and we know ruffian is staff so is that mutt?
Personally I dont care,but state the facts and only what you know about to be true!

[Verderben]

By the way- High Voltage knows nothing about me,and dont know how she even knows what conditions my dogs are in! It is funny that someone can speak on something they know nothing about. Also I have emails from high voltage asking about buying and inquireing about my merles! That is after Daizy was bought from me.So if she seems to know the conditions of my dogs why would they then inquire about my dogs? I know they never seen daizy in person or my dogs!

High Voltage- where are you located and they also stated they have a blue ruffian bred dog up for stud if I knew anyone looking. So why even bother emailing me if things are so horrible,and we know ruffian is staff so is that mutt?
Personally I dont care,but state the facts and only what you know about to be true! Well for one I only emailed you to see what you would say about your dogs because It is suspected you are taking in street dogs and putting CKC papers on them without know where they actually came from. Also you say you are only breeding the merle once but On your other site you had like 3 or 4 merles listed. Also how can you sit there and talk shit about Cami when YOU have a madison bred dog yourself . And dont EVEN try and say you told her you wouldnt breed Cami to Bing because I saw the email where you acted like a kid and said well if you dont do this then I just wont let you breed your dog to mine. And why did you take him to her house so she could see him and see if she wanted to breed to him ? That to IMO says that you already told her you would. I also find it interesting you told Kay that she would get her dogs CKC papers when it turned 6 months old. So basically you sold her what looked like IMO a hound / pit X and were going to put fake CKC papers on it when it was old enough that they would register it. What you did was just plain DIRTY! You knew Kay was new to the breed and took advantage. You saw her as a way to "unload" some of the pups that were getting older. and also I saw pics of daisy that Kay took after you dropped her off. She was DISGUSTING she had sht crusted on her feet and her legs were yellow. She was FILTHY. Her nails looked like freakin daggers. If I was DROPPING a dog off to someone I sure as hell would at LEAST give it a bath and cut its nails. I would be embarrased to give a dog to someone in that condition thats just gross. And as for my dog I would never let you breed to him I was curious on what you would say. I dont breed my dog to mutts. and yes he is an Am Staff , but you know what ? At least I have real papers on my dog ;)


**edit** also it doesnt take a genius to see how your dogs are kept mama is in a filthy room and all the others are obviously sick on the for sale page. Also how come before on both sites mama was 1 yr old and had pups already but now her age has changed to 2 years?

[GSDbulldog]

Now that I have access to Broken Arrow Kennel's website, I can now offer my opinion ;)

First stop, the Male page.

Mostly poorly bred blue staffs. No titles, no acomplishments, not even health tested.

The bitches listed aren't any better. Also poorly bred mutts, I don't even know what to call Baashiah, that dog has no legs. Once again, no titling, testing, etc.

On your breedings page, you state, "We have just bred Nala to our boy Bo.This should produce some great bullies with great color! CKC registered"

Yes, breeding for a "great color". And CKC registered too?

Your "Outside Breeding" is just as bad. You state, "This will be an ADBA litter and should produce some thick compact pups,with some drive,and should produce some show quality pups.There are show and weight pull dogs in Karma's pedigree"

A few titled dogs in a pedigree mean nothing, especially when they probably don't appear until the 4th generation ;)

I am now looking at your "For Sale" page. You still have NUMEROUS pups for sale, yet you feel compelled to breed more. Why? Most, if not all, of the dogs pictured on this page look dull and unhealthy. Mama appears to be sitting in a filthy room, and the "3 year old white female" who produce "great colors" looks sad and despondent.

[14rock]

Thread closed, please take it up in pm.