View Full Version : Dog Barking??
Taz18
03-22-2006, 08:06 PM
I have a 4month old male pit.And no im not going to sit here and lie i bought him as for me to have a friend to play with catch,tug of war,to go walking with,but then again i also bought him for him to protect my yard not 24/7 but i want him to bark when hes older when he sees someone approach the yard..he will not be outside everysingle day he is inside most of the time but like i said when he get older like a year i would like for him to bark when someone appraches the yard,house,property??Also at what age do they start barking?? I have heard him bark but it's rare when he bark's..And no I am not one of those bad owners that u hear about I take perfectly good care of my dog 24/7..So is there any steps I can take for him to bark when someone appraches, and im not looking so he can warn me someone is near??Yes i know he's too young but when he gets older..??Any suggestions would be great on what I can do??And please no bad comments..Thanks
hell bark when he gets oldeer dont worry about it,and hell get used to who comes to your home and who doesnt,,killer used to never bark but i moved and he wasnt used to the surroundings and he started barking like crazy,give your dog some time
Miss Conduct
03-22-2006, 09:22 PM
i wish a few of mine would STOP barking lol. one of my dogs, is quiet all day, even of the other dogs get excited, hes quiet. people that he knows can come in an around the yard and hes fine. he will start to bark if someone comes back there that he knows shouldnt be. i know when i hear him barking that i better look outside!! i wish all of my dogs were like him... unfort. i have a screaming banshee, and a seal that wont shut up :P
He'll bark when he deems it time to do so, i.e. when he wants to draw your attention to a particular situation. Don't worry about a "time frame". It'll happen. It's natural, and instinctive for a canine, (unless of course there are health issues affiliated with him).
catcher T
03-23-2006, 08:09 AM
i wish a few of mine would STOP barking lol. one of my dogs, is quiet all day, even of the other dogs get excited, hes quiet. people that he knows can come in an around the yard and hes fine. he will start to bark if someone comes back there that he knows shouldnt be. i know when i hear him barking that i better look outside!! i wish all of my dogs were like him... unfort. i have a screaming banshee, and a seal that wont shut up :P
thats what I was thinking LOL,,I sometimes wish my dogs never learned to bark,,definatly give it time
Chopper4me
03-23-2006, 01:48 PM
Mine used to never bark now he won't shut up! if anyone or thing comes near his yard he goes off!
420puffer
03-23-2006, 02:05 PM
Mine is rather silent. He seems to bark only when he is suspicious of something. He loves barking at homeless ppl too, i guess cuz they smell or something.
GSDbulldog
03-23-2006, 02:27 PM
My dog never barks, even when someone comes to the door. She makes this high pitched whine constantly though, it's aggravating & I've had the police called on us more than once. The neighbors think we're neglecting a child, not crate training a dog.
He'll bark eventually, but even if he doesn't his appearence is usually enough to deter intruders.
SouthernDixie
03-23-2006, 02:43 PM
I have one that won't bark, and one that barks at friggin' everything! In a way, be happy that the dog doesn't bark at every little thing. I'm sure though, when it's matured a bit more, it will know the proper time to deter off creepy strangers by barking and such.
I suggest you get him out and socialize him with all sorts of people - people of different ages and different races. This will allow him to get more of a feel towards human beings, thus allowing him to be able to tell when someone is "good" and when someone is "bad". Since they can read people better than we can, he ought to know when/if there's a strange person in his presence.
Good luck with him!
TEXAS PIT DOGS
03-23-2006, 09:24 PM
i tell ya taz if you were wanting a guard dog you couldnt have picked a worse dog for the job unless you have a manfighter wich you shouldnt pit bulls are way to friendly to be used as guard dogs.they rarely bark unless you just have a barker they are just way to friendly to everyone and if your pit sees another dog or another animal chances are he is going to go for them instead of the intruder.so for all these reasons that is why i think they are a awful choice to be used strictley as a guard dog.and besides the people you want to be scared of em aint they will more than likely steal em off of ya,and the folks you want him to be friendly with will probally run up a tree to get away from him.so again not a good choice for a guard dog
Taz18
03-25-2006, 04:06 PM
Well i didnt buy him as a guard dog i just want him to bark at people when someone appraches,and ya i get what u guys are saying about a bad guard dog ive heard that before.. but my neigbor has a pit and it will bark at people it doesnt know...
pennsooner
03-25-2006, 07:11 PM
I have a 4month old male pit.And no im not going to sit here and lie i bought him as for me to have a friend to play with catch,tug of war,to go walking with,but then again i also bought him for him to protect my yard not 24/7 but i want him to bark when hes older when he sees someone approach the yard..he will not be outside everysingle day he is inside most of the time but like i said when he get older like a year i would like for him to bark when someone appraches the yard,house,property??Also at what age do they start barking?? I have heard him bark but it's rare when he bark's..And no I am not one of those bad owners that u hear about I take perfectly good care of my dog 24/7..So is there any steps I can take for him to bark when someone appraches, and im not looking so he can warn me someone is near??Yes i know he's too young but when he gets older..??Any suggestions would be great on what I can do??And please no bad comments..Thanks
Pits were never bred to be watch dogs. The best examples of the breed tend to be very people loving. Add to that a lot of Pitbulls are not barkers. The only time my dog really barks is when he knows he's going to get to play fetch.
I've heard of people who have yards having to get a guarding breed to guard their Pitbulls so people won't steal them. You read the old storys about champion and grand champion match dogs being stolen..............well, thats why. A lot of them just love everyone. Its accepted among old breed hands that Pitbulls are not the best choice for a guard/watch dog.
You coud keep your dog indoors and he should let you know if anyone is coming by "alerting" when someone comes to the door. If someone comes to the door my dog will run to the door and stare at it, real alert, so I know someone is there. Besides, you always risk making enemies of your neighbors if you have a real barky dog. Its sort of hard to turn on and off.
Taz18
03-25-2006, 08:28 PM
Well thanks everyone for all your guys help and yes I understand pitbulls are not good guard dogs..but can u make one a guard dog..lol..i dont think thats possible..lol..like I said my neigbors dog is a pit and it protects his yard 24/7 noone gets near it..and like 2blocks down from my house..the man I know has 2pits to protect his yard..all i want for him is to bark when someone approaches the yard..for him to bark at the person?Is there really anything i can do??if no then just say no please no rude remarks...thank u everyone for ur help..
dog-man
03-25-2006, 08:51 PM
Pitbulls where not bred to guard estates/property, the majority of pitbulls will most likely hold the flash light for the burglar or open the door for him/her , lol. I have a 8 month , male, pitbull and I have yet to hear him bark, on the other hand I also have a female neo mastiff, she will bark at anyone that gets within 10ft of my house, and if a bad guy dares come in, he will leave without its limbs (she has proven herself too me more than once).
Iverson's Pits
03-25-2006, 09:13 PM
correctly bred APBTs only work as good guard dogs as DETERENTS. The general public is scared shitless of these dogs, so when someone (robber) sees a pitbull in a yard, they'll usually chose another target. But, if correctly bred, the APBT will be the first dog to come up to a stranger with a ball and beg for him to throw it.
Taz18
03-25-2006, 09:20 PM
lol..ya I seen those dogs that will let anyone play with them..its pretty funny though because you would think that a dog that big would bark at people but no its the other way around..lol..thanks everyone..And ya that's also true "iverson's pits" a robber will get scared just by seeing a pitbull in the yard..
GSDbulldog
03-25-2006, 10:01 PM
I've got an English Bulldog/APBT/Mastiff-of-some-sort mutt who is one helluva guard dog, but a very poor watch dog. Why? Whoever owned him before me had him de-barked. He's proved to me that he will not let anyone enter, or at least leave, the house if they do not belong there.
I wouldn't worry to much now, he'll bark when he wants too. I've never known a dog to not alert their owner when someone is at the door, so you should be all good. Theres nothing wrong with wanting a watch dog, but don't expect a bulldog to maul the robber ;) You can, however, expect a bulldog to point the robber in the direction of your valuables, possibly even helping him haul them off.
pennsooner
03-25-2006, 11:01 PM
Well thanks everyone for all your guys help and yes I understand pitbulls are not good guard dogs..but can u make one a guard dog..lol..i dont think thats possible..lol..like I said my neigbors dog is a pit and it protects his yard 24/7 noone gets near it..and like 2blocks down from my house..the man I know has 2pits to protect his yard..all i want for him is to bark when someone approaches the yard..for him to bark at the person?Is there really anything i can do??if no then just say no please no rude remarks...thank u everyone for ur help..
Can you make one a guard dog? Since this happens too often I'll address that. YES. You can abuse the dog until it becomes afraid and distrusful. At worse they abuse the dog till it becomes a fear biter. SOME Pits have more guarding tendencys but that sort of thing is genetic and often its a sign of a bad temperment (weak nerves).
Now, I know you dont have that in mind Taz. But thats how people too often turn Pitbulls into guard dogs. And a watch dog sort of works the same way, it barks to alert you so you (the alpha) will come deal with the threat, or to say "hey somethings going on". A guard dog deals with the threat itself. But they both have in common that they view people coming into their area as a potental threat.
And thats the problem with Pits as watch or guard dogs. They view new people as friends they haven't met yet. Not a thing to want to change, IMO.
Just get a little yappy terrier. I promise they will alert you if anyone comes on your yard. Or walks past it for that matter. On the other hand, some breeds of hard core guard dogs don't bark, they just attack.
Oh, one more thing to think about. Leaving a Pit out in a yard on a tie-out is asking to have someone steal it. Again, if you have the dog in the house with you, it should alert you to anyone coming to the door, it just won't bark.
Taz18
03-25-2006, 11:17 PM
thanks peensooner i really understand what your saying.. and there is no way that i am going to abuse it thats a no no..but hopefully he will bark when the time is right..hopefully
Ja-net
03-25-2006, 11:39 PM
Can you make one a guard dog? Since this happens too often I'll address that. YES. You can abuse the dog until it becomes afraid and distrusful. At worse they abuse the dog till it becomes a fear biter. SOME Pits have more guarding tendencys but that sort of thing is genetic and often its a sign of a bad temperment (weak nerves).
Now, I know you dont have that in mind Taz. But thats how people too often turn Pitbulls into guard dogs. And a watch dog sort of works the same way, it barks to alert you so you (the alpha) will come deal with the threat, or to say "hey somethings going on". A guard dog deals with the threat itself. But they both have in common that they view people coming into their area as a potental threat.
And thats the problem with Pits as watch or guard dogs. They view new people as friends they haven't met yet. Not a thing to want to change, IMO.
Just get a little yappy terrier. I promise they will alert you if anyone comes on your yard. Or walks past it for that matter. On the other hand, some breeds of hard core guard dogs don't bark, they just attack.
Oh, one more thing to think about. Leaving a Pit out in a yard on a tie-out is asking to have someone steal it. Again, if you have the dog in the house with you, it should alert you to anyone coming to the door, it just won't bark.
Where did you get all your ameture info from thats not the only way to train an ABPT to be a guard dog there are proper ways to do it without abusing the dog.
Taz18
03-26-2006, 12:03 AM
So ja-net what would you say is the right way to train a pit to be a guard dog are..taining classes??Well what if u cannot afford them at the time??Thanks for all your guys info??
pennsooner
03-26-2006, 12:38 AM
Where did you get all your ameture info from thats not the only way to train an ABPT to be a guard dog there are proper ways to do it without abusing the dog.
Do you mean real protection work, or sport training? Working a Pit in REAL defensive drive takes a special temperment in the Pit, and a GREAT trainer. Otherwise your playing with fire and risk creating a seriously dangerous animal. You know, the no warning, then eat you face type.
IMO (and more importantly to me, in the opinion of every trainer I've ever talked to, in person or on the net) training Pits for guard work is at BEST a very delicate job that requires just the right dog and trainer and at worst creating a loaded gun.
Its a lot more common for some fool to abuse a weak nerved dog into being a fear biter than to find a solid, stable well trained Pitbull guard dog.
Now if your talking about sport bite work, thats a different story.
Taz18
03-26-2006, 12:42 AM
Well im not talking about no real work nothing too serious he is just a pet,a friend that i have but yes i would also like for him to be a Ok guard dog
pennsooner
03-26-2006, 07:42 AM
Well im not talking about no real work nothing too serious he is just a pet,a friend that i have but yes i would also like for him to be a Ok guard dog
Taz: The deal is, thats a matter of tempement. But, the good news is that even very laid back, people loving Pitbulls have a pretty good record of protecting their masters when the master is attacked directly. So you can probably, without training count on your guy if things get serious. However, guarding property is another story. And the training involved is VERY in depth and complex if done right. And even then with a good trainer can be an iffy sort of thing.
If your really after a guard dog, get a malinous(sp), and find a good trainer.
People without the know-how trying to turn thier Pitbull into a guard dog on their own ( and on the cheap) is one reason why we are all fighting breed bans. When people do that they end up with a LOUSY guard dog, one that will NOT stand up to pressure from a REAL bad guy. But they then have a dog that will go after the neighbors 8 year old child.
Taz18
03-26-2006, 09:16 AM
Well as long as he can alert me someone is there or what ever he can do ill be happy..Cuz right now he is only 4months old and he is really alert any little noise he hears and he gets up and walks to the noise,door where ever its coming from...thanks
dog-man
03-26-2006, 01:12 PM
Taz, the majority of dogs will bark when they sense something is wrong, if you are content with your pitbull alerting you , when someone rings the bell, is real close to your home, it will definatly serve its purpose, but if you want a guard dog, that will protect your home, regardles if your home or not, I suggest another breed , preferably molloser (tons of defense drive), they are natural guardians (guard training not needed), plenty of power. On the other hand if you insist on a pitbull guard dog, yes it can be done, but it takes dedication, training, and money (trainers, equipment), again you would be better off getting a molloser type dog.
Well as long as he can alert me someone is there or what ever he can do ill be happy..Cuz right now he is only 4months old and he is really alert any little noise he hears and he gets up and walks to the noise,door where ever its coming from...thanks
Iverson's Pits
03-26-2006, 01:15 PM
Im actually interested in having a night-time Dobe as a yard/guard dog. We'll see what kindof place we can find when we get back 'Stateside...maybe it can happen. I'd have the Dobe out whenever we were gone from the house and the pits were put up.
Taz18
03-26-2006, 09:48 PM
wow, i never knew pits were so bad at guard dogs its pretty funny because all u hear about them is negetive things on the news,newpaper,t.v. and which alot of those things are wrong some pits are really really nice but then news never see's those pits, they just see pits biting people..but ya i hope my dog can alert me,i didnt really buy him to guard i bought him more as i friend for me to have to play games with to go walking with..but ya i hope he can do the job though and try his best to guard my house,property..thanks
JuicyCa
03-29-2006, 09:32 AM
LMAO just thinking of Aaron (my 2 y.o.) barking and growling and foaming at the mouth while he puts his face in the window whenever someone starts coming up the yard. He sounds so mean, but he's just a kitten! If we let the person in he is all over them jumping (extremely bad habit, I know) and licking and wagging his tail; a complete 180 from seconds earlier. If I was on the other side of that window though, I'd be scared s***less!
If you need an alert barker, your pup should be just fine. LF would always pick up on anyone coming near the house, but he just started alert barking for real about two weeks ago (he's also 4 months old). Just make sure that if he does happen to bark at the right time you give him lots of praise and maybe even a treat-just until he gets the hang of it. Hey-it worked with a Golden Retriever I had when I was younger; GRs are even worse guard dogs than pits!
Taz18
03-29-2006, 03:21 PM
Yes hopefully he would start barking also..but if he was one thing he is really alert he hears everything..its just that i would like it alittle more if he happened to bark at times at the right time..but i will just give him time to see what happens..thanks
SouthernDixie
03-29-2006, 03:25 PM
TAZ
Give him time. He is young. When he starts to mature a bit, he'll probably bark, or alert you somehow, that someone is in your driveway or at your door. One of mine barks, the other whines. But neither of them did this for a while.
I know my Pitbull will protect me if I ever get attact, put protect my house!
never!
The people living next door was on vacation and they tried to break in to their house,my mutt was barking like crazy and my Pitbull was wagging her tail!
Big Papa
04-25-2006, 10:05 PM
the dog will progress just to rush it.......
Taz18
05-11-2006, 11:06 PM
Hey guys how is everyone??Well my dog is know 6months old..And still he does not bark..Im just giving him time I guess intill he grows up more..Yes I have heard him bark before like for example when I hold something over my shoulder slipper,or any toy he will bark at it..or like with the slipper I guess he thinks im going to hit him and he bark's at it but only while im holding it up(no i do not hit him)..When where outside he does not bark at all..He is very alert though he stares at anything that crosses the yard or anyone that he see's he just stares at them and it kinda looks like he want's to bark but he doesnt..Like i said im just going to give him more time..I guess i got a quiet one..lol..
Taz18
05-11-2006, 11:13 PM
I dont know why this bother's me so much I know it's just a "time frame" that i should just wait intill he feels its right for him to bark..thanks everyone
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