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kgip2k
01-19-2006, 09:47 PM
Got a Zebo/Jeep bich that I bred into a Redboy/Frisco malen what are your thoughts as to the possible outcome?




thablacksheep
01-20-2006, 08:51 AM
that's an unanswerable question being that all zebo, jeep, redboy, frisco dogs dont act the same and don't all have the same traits. Why don't you work and analyze your animal and tell us how it worked out for you.

thablacksheep
01-20-2006, 08:57 AM
buckskin, red, black, tan, short, leggy. Not sure if that's what your looking for but that's all I can come up with...

kgip2k
01-22-2006, 02:51 PM
Fawn brindle and black with white markings and a black brindle is what I ended up with, looks like they are going to be the more leggy type with good athletic build and not the short thick style. Right now have 5 left, 3 male and 2 female and they are 12 weeks and looking to be very good pups as far as game and bite. ***Edit.

Scotsman
01-22-2006, 06:18 PM
I don't really understand why you even did that breeding? Seems pretty scatterbred.

kgip2k
01-22-2006, 06:53 PM
where do you get scatterbred? bloodlines should all pretty well compliment each other to produce a well rounded dog... wich the pups are displaying.

Scotsman
01-22-2006, 07:02 PM
If you don't know what scatterbred means then maybe you shouldn't be breeding. Not all crosses are good ones. So you have puppies that are ZeboXRedboyXFriscoXJeep.
Why not breed the female to a Zebo or Jeep dog?

Post a ped.

kgip2k
01-22-2006, 07:33 PM
I fully understand what scatterbred means... as far as that is concerned breeding into a seperate bloodline to bring out certain characteristics of a bloodline is concerned would make any dog that is not linebred or inbred scatterbred... The whole concept of breeding for better dogs is to ad the positive of one to make up for the negative of the other.

14rock
01-22-2006, 09:53 PM
I think most here understand breeding practices but what if that scatterbreeding combines only the negatives of both bloodlines and makes worse dogs than tightening up the blood would of? Everyone always neglects that part, and how well are the dogs going to produce if they have no like ancestors.....probably not very well.

kgip2k
01-22-2006, 09:59 PM
Thats why you hold the litter a longer and watch the pups...

sy82nj
01-23-2006, 02:39 PM
i think the bitch should have been bred to jeep male or a heavy eli male

SLICK WILLIE
01-23-2006, 03:07 PM
Got a Zebo/Jeep bich that I bred into a Redboy/Frisco malen what are your thoughts as to the possible outcome?
Its a 4 way cross and nothing wrong with that. Many people doctor peds to make you think its tight! Scatterbred smatter bred! If the dogs are game don't make a crap man. You have 4 ways you can breed it if its lacking something. Don't listen to to everything thats put out here. I have seen scatter produce so take it with a grain of salt. 4 way cross ant scatterbred. Its what it is a 4 way cross. Bloods will mesh and you can add or take away the % of blood you want. Snooty was not bred like his papers said but they bred the crap out of him and that goes for many dogs we read about today. Be your own man or woman and find a mentor that has a leg up on this issue. Trial and error you will find out for sure!

gritt
01-24-2006, 12:01 AM
Thats why you hold the litter a longer and watch the pups...most outcrosses 2 3&4 way turn out better than tight linebred ones most of the time. i usualy use resl tightbred dogs 4 outcross. good luck

O.D.
01-25-2006, 10:36 AM
COULD POSSIBLY BE A GOOD BREEDING. SUPER GNAT MADE HISTORY WITH THE BLOOD FROM JEEP'S LITTERMATE BROTHER CHARLIE CROSSED INTO A ZEBO BITCH. REDBOY ACTS AS A CATYLYST FOR MOST LINES AS DOES FRISCO, JUST DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS. I HAVE A BITCH THAT IS THE EXACT SAME CROSS WITH HER BOTTOM HALF BEING ALL FRISCO, AND SHE IS VERY NICE. I THINK YOU SHOULD BE ALL RIGHT PROVIDED THE PARENTS ARE HONEST.

kgip2k
01-28-2006, 10:11 PM
Got the ped for the pups from ADBA, and I had looked at the wrong ped when I did the breeding the male we used to breed into my female was actually a Frisco/Jeep male. Female is Jeep/Zebo.