Stompanato

[HBK]

Several things that have been on my mind about this dog

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=150

Why is he the only dog referred to as " Hall of Fame " ??

When was he alive? ( my guess is early to mid 70s if Carver died in 76 )

Why does he look so different than the rest of the dogs in his ped. ? ( short muzzle, Am. Bull Dog-ish )

What was his [] record? (my only info on him is from The Ed Faron book, either cold or possibily won 2 in Mexico )

Any other info on him would be apprectated. I havn't really found out much about him in the last two years other than alot of good dogs have him in their ped :-)


Also are there any heavy Stompanato dogs around?

Thanks!!

[DryCreek]

Why does he look so different than the rest of the dogs in his ped. ? ( short muzzle, Am. Bull Dog-ish )

He looks like an APBT to me, the black around his eyes and starting down his muzzle makes his muzzle look shorter.

The true answers to your other questions are unfortunately, 6 feet under. Unless you can talk to the dead, and Carver is probably to busy to talking to Earl.

[DeadGame4]

even if Carver was talking you couldn't trust a word out of his mouth, and thats a fact!

[HBK]

Sorry, I removed my post. Didnt mean to be disrespectful.

*** Editted by 14rock-Lets respect this man and not bad-talk those no longer with us.

[Outsider]

some 20yrs ago a friend of mine showed me a photo album of pics his family having barbeques at Carvers yard..dog pics ...game fowl, alot of cool pics, The pics of Carver were obviously in his later years. Anyway his uncles yard was started with a son of Stompanato..I saw the dog he stayed at my buddies Grandmothers house in SoCalif, looked just like stompanato, big! He was pretty old...heck he may have been Stompanato himself, who knows my buddy wasn't to much into the dogs as I was! They had pretty good success with them Stompanato dogs..Funny thing, about 12yrs after that I had an opportunity to buy Ch Juju after she was retired...her bottom half was inbred Stompanato.. Never saw her, but told she was as good as they come!!

[dianabol]

"even if Carver was talking you couldn't trust a word out of his mouth, and thats a fact!

lmfao but you could trust you would be 1 dog less if you ever met him ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Outsider]

Bottom line is...ole Carver bred some awesome bulldogs, you can't refute that fact! Whether he was untrustworthy or not I can't say..I never met the man! One thing for sure is he was true to his standards concerning bulldogs..

[lonesharkpits]

here's wildside's stompanato
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=59567

he is sire to my dog king
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=184910

[MTNDOG]

I have a grandson of Ch. Juju that is a good dog. I have heard that Stompanato is not bred as papered, but I would'nt know one way or the other. I just know that I like the blood.

[ABK]

I too have heard Stompanato wasn't bred as papered, but as one said we will never really know the truth, as a lot of Mr. Carver's secrets died w/ him.

This may horrify some ppl here, but I have heard tell that Mr. Carver was friends w/ Peggy Harper, part of the "Har" in Har-Win AmStaffs. Word was if one of her staffs turned out too aggressive for her taste she'd give it to Mr. Carver. He allegedly used some of those staffs in his program under diff names. This could possibly be the reason for Stompanato's larger size & bulkier look.

Just some food for thought ...

[Outsider]

MtnDog..how is your grandson of Juju bred? been trying to get some of that blood back. I had a son of hers off Rushin's LilCane..He was something special, called him GreatWhiteHope..unfortunately died at an early age..

[MTNDOG]

Bred to other Bullet/Handome Jr. blood. Do you have anything bred similar? I would love to breed him to other similar blood.

[HBK]

I too have heard Stompanato wasn't bred as papered, but as one said we will never really know the truth, as a lot of Mr. Carver's secrets died w/ him.

This may horrify some ppl here, but I have heard tell that Mr. Carver was friends w/ Peggy Harper, part of the "Har" in Har-Win AmStaffs. Word was if one of her staffs turned out too aggressive for her taste she'd give it to Mr. Carver. He allegedly used some of those staffs in his program under diff names. This could possibly be the reason for Stompanato's larger size & bulkier look.

Just some food for thought ...
Yes, I too have heard the same thing. I didn't know if it was just an internet rumor.

Thanks for all of the info guys. Just so I'm clear I am a big fan of Carver bred dogs. Weather or not the papers match the blood at this point in time is not really important I guess. However they were bred there are a high number of great dogs off of them. My dogs have alot of this blood in them, my female is triple bred Stompanato up top a and my scatter-male has some Carver stuff on top and bottom but not as heavy or close up.

[14rock]

Who cares if the dogs had amstaff in them if they were producing game dogs? Its always said Carver liked to say "I can bake ya a cake, but I dont need to tell you my ingredients".

[MTNDOG]

I heard Stomp was E. Crenshaw breeding. Definitly resembles that stock.

[Miss Conduct]

though a bit back, here is a ped to a couple bellymates i have-

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=171010

[wisconsindog]

here is one of the best stompo dogs alive and he is mine 12 gage http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=186967

[Miss Conduct]

here is one of the best stompo dogs alive and he is mine 12 gage http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=186967
that is a matter of opinion, as im sure ALOT of people w/stomp dogs are gonna say that they are the best alive....

cant see the ped, too many people on peds online! :P

[blacklion]

You know I really dont care how they bred because if the papers were wrong or right he sold you a fine bulldog .More breeders purchased dogs with his name in it than the other way around.

[sy82nj]

carver was a dogmen that help me and you owned some good dogs of our day. so we should respect the man. no one always tell the truth. and we all know it. you and i lied before.

[TEXAS PIT DOGS]

well from what i seen of stomp he was paperd and carver did not mix staff blood into them he just kind of liked the staff look so he always bred dogs that looked sorta like that but anyone can see from a mile away that they are 100% game bred pit bull and he raised and bred some of the finest dogs in the USA,and thats a fact.

[realonebulldog]

MtnDog..how is your grandson of Juju bred? been trying to get some of that blood back. I had a son of hers off Rushin's LilCane..He was something special, called him GreatWhiteHope..unfortunately died at an early age.. W O W What a machine of a dog.....nice pic!

[realonebulldog]

well from what i seen of stomp he was paperd and carver did not mix staff blood into them he just kind of liked the staff look so he always bred dogs that looked sorta like that but anyone can see from a mile away that they are 100% game bred pit bull and he raised and bred some of the finest dogs in the USA,and thats a fact. I think the key is you find Amstaffgenes in Pitbulls and Pitbullgenes in Amstaffs......the point is how you bred them..:) the old time amstaffs were by far another stuff than today Amstaffs....think everyone know why.

[realonebulldog]

carver was a dogmen that help me and you owned some good dogs of our day. so we should respect the man. no one always tell the truth. and we all know it. you and i lied before. Do you know a dogmen that talks good and gentle over another dogmen? ...lol...thats the point, souch ones are rare to the vanishpoint...I dont understand why....thats one of ouer biggest problems....today and in the good old days...:)

[TEXAS PIT DOGS]

you know realone thats true,even me in my old age still kinda chew up the new dogmen today.but i think the reason for that is that some of them are just so ignorant i mean if we had acess to all the information that the newbies do today when we were starting out with breeding you would be hard pressed to see us make a mistake,we would have followed it to the letter.and the dogmen today have all that info and just kinda throw it away and pay it no attention,and thats the reason i think that us old timers have really no tolerance for the newbies and kinda chew em out alot.

[realonebulldog]

you know realone thats true,even me in my old age still kinda chew up the new dogmen today.but i think the reason for that is that some of them are just so ignorant i mean if we had acess to all the information that the newbies do today when we were starting out with breeding you would be hard pressed to see us make a mistake,we would have followed it to the letter.and the dogmen today have all that info and just kinda throw it away and pay it no attention,and thats the reason i think that us old timers have really no tolerance for the newbies and kinda chew em out alot. Well , the good old days are gone.....from my point of view it is some kind like this...if you have no heart you cant bred this dogs with heart...

[WINSTROL]

"even if Carver was talking you couldn't trust a word out of his mouth, and thats a fact!

lmfao but you could trust you would be 1 dog less if you ever met him ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
LOL............................................... ..

[wisconsindog]

i have tight tight stomanato/ch.Dimond blood the real kind check this guy out

[blackwolf2k]

i have had an opportunity to talk to several people who knew Mr and Mrs Carver and also seen the stompy dog, i was told that he was never matched but was rolled plenty of day, he didnt have the stamina for a match but he could bust it up for 20 or 30 mins. I know that i was told that this particular seen him rolled at leat 4x's all over the 30 min mark and never seen him quit. I know 1 thing he has produced some super dogs and they have inturned produced super dogs.

[WINSTROL]

True Or Not If Mr C Owned Him He Was A Good Dog ..........as Most All Were