Mccool dog's.....

[*blackrock*]

What does everyone think about these dogs, are they any good. And how do they produce?....the pedigrees look nice.

[NOVICE]

Gapits has a Mccools sorrels cross on there yard. She's on fire. She was bred to Greenwoods Got the scar. Same thing, on fire.

[Scotsman]

I have some Coy blood that is also old Carver stuff, I like the stuff I have. It is also crossed in with a little Greenwood and some Poncho blood.

[dianabol]

get ya 1 if possible .................

[Will Power]

I got a dog off of Mccools Blue Very Happy With him Shows Alot of promise

[MTNDOG]

I like the pedigrees and the blood has been proven..I personally don't like Mr. Mccools breeding practices..But again if it works go for it.

[*blackrock*]

I like the pedigrees and the blood has been proven..I personally don't like Mr. Mccools breeding practices..But again if it works go for it.

What are your thoughts on his breeding practices?

[Miss Conduct]

i have this guy. lookin good so far.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=160413

i would like a good mccools bitch, i've been lookin around, but haven't set anything up yet.

[Will Power]

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=177297


this is one of my pups

[fredmac82]

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=153074

Here's one of my pups. He's 6months right now. McCool's on the bottom half. What you think?

[Miss Conduct]

Fred, Have Any Females Like That?

[fredmac82]

I got two females off that litter as well. There a handful.



http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=153074

[Miss Conduct]

Well, If You Need Anywhere To "house" Them, Im Available ;)

[cain dog]

Love that old Carver blood!

[fredmac82]

bump that to the top.

Love that old Carver blood!

[dianabol]

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=100460
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=129005
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=189260
all 3 are all you could ask for

[mntman2003]

thats what i call a real carver bred dog/dogs

[el_kapitan]

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=117527

[Miss Conduct]

very nice!

[fredmac82]

Any other Mccool dog's out there. Post peds of the dogs if you can.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.co...p?dog_id=153074 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=153074)

[dianabol]

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=127820

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=189260

[fredmac82]

What are some of the traits Mccool dog's are know for.



http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=127820

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=189260

[fredmac82]

What are your thoughts on Mr. Mccools breeding practies?

I like the pedigrees and the blood has been proven..I personally don't like Mr. Mccools breeding practices..But again if it works go for it.

[oldslowblue]

Just a question but what ya'll think about the boyles/mccool cross?

Let's look.....McCool's x Boyles = a very proven (CLASSIC) Carver/Eli cross, only with the addition of Bolio. Sounds like a winner to me. In the past, my camp and I have been guilty of breeding goodlooking paper work, to some o.k. dogs. Which is cool, pending your aim. We had no problem selling offspring, and could just about ask any amount of money for em. When I say breed paper work, I don't mean bad dogs w/fancy papers. I mean we bred good brood dogs, or classic crosses to catch the eye of the "folx". I.e. Jeep/Redboy. Redboy/Jocko. Trying to keep it typical, yet easy on the eye. More recently however the bar has been raised and it's no longer your classic crosses. It's whatever we feel works at that time. You take two good dogs (solid dogs), and stick em together. Using this method, it proved a valuable point: Doesn't have to be a proven cross to produce. Just two great dogs, coming through good blood. In a nut shell, don't be afraid of the cross....be more cautious about the dogs in mind. When you study hard, test are a breeze.YIS BLUE

[TripleJ]

Let's look.....McCool's x Boyles = a very proven (CLASSIC) Carver/Eli cross, only with the addition of Bolio. Sounds like a winner to me. In the past, my camp and I have been guilty of breeding goodlooking paper work, to some o.k. dogs. Which is cool, pending your aim. We had no problem selling offspring, and could just about ask any amount of money for em. When I say breed paper work, I don't mean bad dogs w/fancy papers. I mean we bred good brood dogs, or classic crosses to catch the eye of the "folx". I.e. Jeep/Redboy. Redboy/Jocko. Trying to keep it typical, yet easy on the eye. More recently however the bar has been raised and it's no longer your classic crosses. It's whatever we feel works at that time. You take two good dogs (solid dogs), and stick em together. Using this method, it proved a valuable point: Doesn't have to be a proven cross to produce. Just two great dogs, coming through good blood. In a nut shell, don't be afraid of the cross....be more cautious about the dogs in mind. When you study hard, test are a breeze.YIS BLUEDING DING DING!!! We have a winner! Very good to see someone is still doing it right!

[ANCHOR]

We had no problem selling offspring, and could just about ask any amount of money for em.

O'Fu*k'n joy. more people should be like that, yay.:eek:
are you serious lol...im sure ive miss read this somehow ???

[oldslowblue]

We had no problem selling offspring, and could just about ask any amount of money for em.

O'Fu*k'n joy. more people should be like that, yay.:eek:
are you serious lol...im sure ive miss read this somehow ???

Lol, I'm sure you have. Let me explain further. When I say we bred good papered dogs, mostly brood to a complete brood out, people would come from miles and pay above avergae prices for the dogs. So...ok what have you. However, when the bar was "raised' so to speak, we got away from all of the tighter nice looking paper work, and started breeding better quality dogs with looser pedigrees, and people didn't come around from miles, just the folx that were familiar with the dogs. The dogs got better when we considered not the papers, but the animals. Not the proven crosses, yet the future ones. Yet still, the demand was for tighter bred o.k. dogs. I guess they found new folx to shop with, but at their loss. I feel the dogs we put out now, are ten folds more valuable than the demand of the past breedings. So when you say more people should be like that, they already are kiddo. All day everyday. I keep my stock and let few go to trusted, responsible owners. Price never mattered, just liked to throw that in there to show you how the game has went South. Hope this clears the clouds.

[ben brockton]

all that BROOD stuff is for peddlers talk. If you got a good one you know what to do right? i think it just dont mater ACE rank CURR DG cold ROM CH . they will all put out god and bad when bread half honist dog in the right hands can look great to some. Idt it evan matters you can make any % you want. its all just playing the lotto

[oldslowblue]

all that BROOD stuff is for peddlers talk. If you got a good one you know what to do right? i think it just dont mater ACE rank CURR DG cold ROM CH . they will all put out god and bad when bread half honist dog in the right hands can look great to some. Idt it evan matters you can make any % you want. its all just playing the lotto

My point exactly. Was trying to get the blind to see. I was told a while back to give leniency to brood dogs and breed em any how. Truth be told, doesn't matter if your brood or battle crossed, you must be honest, then bred to.YIS BLUE

[ben brockton]

''give give leniency to brood dogs and breed em any how. to brood dogs and breed em any how.'' you were told WRONG!!! Igues all gamedogs are brood becuase you onlly breed to gamedogs. and there is NO leniecny onlly TRUTH

[oldslowblue]

''give give leniency to brood dogs and breed em any how. to brood dogs and breed em any how.'' you were told WRONG!!! Igues all gamedogs are brood becuase you onlly breed to gamedogs. and there is NO leniecny onlly TRUTH

"Truth be told, doesn't matter if your brood or battle crossed, you must be honest, then bred to."Eassy Big Ben....we're on the same page here. lol Just pullin'n ur chain. I understand you. YIS

[ben brockton]

i know im just in a fisty mood today. olds i know you know ur dogs just giveing you S### LOL

[ben brockton]

if your not 100% satisfied with your gyp do not breed her. you dont want to breed subpar dogs. if you must breed it find a CH that has produced other CH & breed to that keep all the dogs & give them a good look. dont just look for blood look for the TRUTH.

[TripleJ]

Breed your best dogs and you will get good dogs. its been working for hundreds of years why try and FIX it with some paper.

[ANCHOR]

thanx oldslowblue, i aint been called kiddo in more than 30+years lol:p

[ben brockton]

FTG i gues some just have higher breeding standards then others. if im not 100% they will not be bread. onlly the TRUTH will get bread on my yard.

[oldslowblue]

thanx oldslowblue, i aint been called kiddo in more than 30+years lol:p

Lol, just pulling your chain. Glad you took it that way! I'm not here for trouble, just learn and spread knowledge where I can. Like it here. Although I feel I know a good bit, I learn something new about these dogs everyday. Their my life, so to speak! Glad it's cool. Have a good'un, and Yall cum back now, ya hear?YIS

[TheVictor22]

Good thread.... and the dogs look great too. that Mccools / Boyles cross was the first thing that came to mind. that or Niggerino / Mcools. They were the first to come to mind.

Anyone care to give there opinions on his breeding practices sence they were in question? I'm currious to know.

Vic

[TheVictor22]

i have this guy. lookin good so far.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=160413

i would like a good mccools bitch, i've been lookin around, but haven't set anything up yet.


I like this dog. I think i have told you before. I would love to have some this small.

Vic

[ben brockton]

Well he was a friend to M.C and got his stuff off him.It is said he got the real ped's from M.C A.w put out some great dogs over the years that produced more great dogs. What more do you want to know?

[TheVictor22]

Well he was a friend to M.C and got his stuff off him.It is said he got the real ped's from M.C A.w put out some great dogs over the years that produced more great dogs. What more do you want to know?

Were can i get the blood? Anything and everything you know. I know nothing at all. But ready to do some home work once pointed in the right direction :D.

Vic

[oldslowblue]

Well he was a friend to M.C and got his stuff off him.It is said he got the real ped's from M.C A.w put out some great dogs over the years that produced more great dogs. What more do you want to know?

Yes, he may have been friends w/M, but Mike started McCool's yard. All the current dogs, or shall I say famous dogs, current bloodline, came straight from Mr. T. I know this, because we purchased Goldberg straight from McCool. Mike a was a fair skinned fella from Cajun Kuntry. We rode up years ago and spent 2 weeks with him. It was an experience we'll never forget. I learned so much in that 2 week time frame, I didn't want to leave, LOL. I miss you T-Bo!

[ben brockton]

well thats not i herd from the man himself? Why would he go to la to get M.T dogs when M.T was getting M.C dogs & A.W was not far from M.C? his most known stuff did come from M.T but IDT he started his yard. i onlly met him once at bbz yard in the 90s OLDS PM me igot a story for you

[oldslowblue]

well thats not i herd from the man himself?

Doubt he'd tell you. For reasons I'd rather not discuss, it would just start a thread full of b.s. and questions. Truth be told, T-bo is responsible for dogs such as Sack, Apple Jack, Bully, Texas, Pete, Banjo and Belle Star. I heard a lot of things from him, but I weed out the stuff I know better of. Don't get me wrong, he's a stand up guy, his stock didn't come directly from Mr.C though. If you look in the pedigrees alone, there is a gap between McCool and Mr.C. That's my buddy T-bo. I had another guy in my circle at the time of our visit who brought his son with us. At the time, He had to be no more than 2 years old or so. Now this nickname came way before the Florida Gators thought about a quarterback named TEBO. The young'n couldn't pronounce Mr.T's name, so he called him "Mitter T-BO" LMAO! I still laugh now. Mitter T-bo assured the young'n he gave it his all, and stamped him "game as they come"! lol. He died laughing for 8- 10 minutes about that name. He kneeled down and told the young'n, that's what he'll go by, although his mother didn't name him that.Lol. But he was really close to Mr.C. Not saying this is how they met or whatever, but McCool definately should give thanks to T-BO. We purchased Goldberg from McCool and have straws off of him now. Only 4 left, to Only our bitches. This is not an advertisement. This is the truth. Seriously Ben.....

[ben brockton]

are you saying ''billy'' and ''vana'' wrer the onlly dogs A.W had on his yard when he got started? like I said I onlly met him one time so I can onlly go by what I was told. I never met M.T IDK what went on with the two.Sack, Apple Jack, Bully, Texas, Pete, Banjo and Belle Star. them breeding were made by A.W wernt they? Just giveing you S### olds I here where you are coming from tho I dont know I was not there I did not know them guys at all.

[oldslowblue]

are you saying ''billy'' and ''vana'' wrer the onlly dogs A.W had on his yard when he got started? like I said I onlly met him one time so I can onlly go by what I was told. I never met M.T IDK what went on with the two.Sack, Apple Jack, Bully, Texas, Pete, Banjo and Belle Star. them breeding were made by A.W wernt they? Just giveing you S### olds I here where you are coming from tho I dont know I was not there I did not know them guys at all.

Lol. Big Ben, I apologize, 4got who I was speaking with. The newschoolers know more about the dogs I mentioned earlier. That would stand for more recent success IMO. In the older days, I'm sure he got dogs straight from Mr.c. He also had shelton bred stuff and so-on. And you're right in a sense, all of those guys were pals. It all goes back to the Carver breedings. So apologies... got caught up in the Tbo visit.

[ben brockton]

thats cool no probs. he did do great things with M.T dogs. to me its all the same great dogmen who ues the same stuff to make a good yard. i would take any dog they gave me any day. if you asked E. crenshaw he would say them dogs came from his yard LOL......

[Ol'CountryDog]

I have some Coy blood that is also old Carver stuff, I like the stuff I have. It is also crossed in with a little Greenwood and some Poncho blood.

Got a pedigree you can post? My nephew has a Poncho x Greenwood dog! :D He loves this guy :D

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[oldslowblue]

Good thread.... and the dogs look great too. that Mccools / Boyles cross was the first thing that came to mind. that or Niggerino / Mcools. They were the first to come to mind.

Anyone care to give there opinions on his breeding practices sence they were in question? I'm currious to know.

Vic
Nigerino x McCool's = Very Very Nice Quality Bulldogs.

[willypete]

i would rather get my stuff from LG but if you cant then i guess the other stuff will do .willypete

[ben brockton]

willypete what is the difference ? are L.G dogs better then MAD or DSK dogs. IDK im a noob when it comes to these dogs can you give me som info?

[RR3000]

Maybe wrong but I think the difference is Butcher boy and E.C.snow, and you know what just one dog can do to a program.JMO But as far as which is better I can't tell ya,may just be a preference.

[willypete]

willypete what is the difference ? are L.G dogs better then MAD or DSK dogs. IDK im a noob when it comes to these dogs can you give me som info?

I have had the pleasure of knowing some of the people personally in that small circle of dogs... and for me LG had the most honest breeding program,,, he did so without lieing to him self or anyone else and never bred a bitch to sell a pup they were allways bred to work from his yard .. and the mccool dogs i have had i was not happy with .. but thats not saying that the good ones are not out there ... this is a bitch i got thru LG ...... http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=267986 not saying that she is better just saying what i prefur....... willypete

[ben brockton]

A.W & M.T was getting ther stuff straight from the sorce. L.G was getting there stuff off them guys. so you cant really badmouth one without the other. A.W & M.T both had more (pre76) wins and CH's then L.G ever did. That circle wasn't to small they were in all the mag's & online selling / studing dogs.

[SMILES]

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[John Stompanato]

i had a couple from lgs trouble and never end up liking those dogs ,.. ive had mc cool dogs and ive liked em much better but everyone speaks the way it goes

[STOMPANATO]

heyyy ADMIN AND MEMBERS...this man warrior kennel from mexico and a BIG THIEF.....never dont trust he............

[preme]

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WOULD LOVE TO TAKE MY BITCH TO A PURE BANJO DOG...ELI/CARVER:cool:

[Bulldoghistorian]

LG or Mr K the way to go if u want carver

[RR3000]

Does anybody have a picture of Apple Jack ???Hey Krueger apple jack//smapple jack...lol