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honestb
01-03-2006, 06:02 PM
i'm going to start my girl on weight pulling . what equipment would be good for a rookie in training? she is 11 months old and stands 19 inches high and weighs about 55 pounds.




SEAL
01-03-2006, 06:06 PM
very low weight say just the harness and maybe a pound or two. somethin to get her used to the tention

honestb
01-03-2006, 07:18 PM
are there any household items i could use with the harness for her to pull?

El Mexicano
01-03-2006, 07:32 PM
go to apbtconformation.com and there is some info on weight pulling.start of with no weight just let the dog get used to the harness and then astart adding weight little by little dont expect 2500 pounds on the first pull.

14rock
01-03-2006, 07:39 PM
Use a milk jug filled with rocks and other objects for the first month or so just to get her used to the noise behind her before you go to weights. Just put the harness on and let her play with it on with the harness behind her.

honestb
01-03-2006, 08:15 PM
wouldnt a milk jug with rocks put tension on her neck since it would be so low to the ground.wouldnt i need something that will stay directly behind her to get the right kind of pull?

El Mexicano
01-03-2006, 08:25 PM
u dotn put big rocks just a couple so it can make noise.

americandream
01-03-2006, 08:38 PM
here let me tell ya... a milk jug with some pebbles in it is like pulling a feather. its noise that to dog has to get used to. you should start with atleast 10 different noises/objects with noise first.

14rock
01-03-2006, 09:13 PM
You are using a harness right? Even a walking harness would in theory be o'k for a milk jug, although not desirable. You cant just hook weight to the collar. You may want to hold off on the purchase of a weightpull harness for a few more months. She may continue to grow and the harness may not fit in a couple months. Also, 11 months is o'k to start training and extremely light weights, but you should not use any real weight until at the very least 18 months old. That way all the joints and bones have matured most of the way and set properly.

El Mexicano
01-03-2006, 09:14 PM
beofer uspend money on equipment...spend some money to make sure your dog doesnt have hip disp. and stuff like that.

honestb
01-03-2006, 11:32 PM
just a second ago i connected 75 lbs to her leash and she pulled it about 30 yrds to me. the funny thing was we found a shopping cart lying around which was made the total weight a littel more. of course i wont continue with her pulling that much so soon. hey i'm just being resourceful by using whats around me, those damn wagons are expensive,even at walmart. maybe i can make my own. can i use a nylon harness with weight attached to it?

americandream
01-03-2006, 11:38 PM
you need to get a costom made one i got one made for under 100$ can. fees using leashes and walking harness's could hurt the dog. i used a shopping cart to start too. but be careful it doesnt hit her in the butt it will freak her out. doing it on grass with nothing in it should be good enough. til she gets used to it.

for a harness try cdpits
heres my costom made harness for my britney.....

leatherface
01-04-2006, 12:00 AM
take it slow.dont rush her..she is still young and not fully developed. listen to what the other have told you...start with a milk jug or something similiar. give her time to get used to the harness and pulling. dont push her too hard till shes 2yrs. good luck

honestb
01-04-2006, 12:10 AM
i really appreciate the replies. what i am asking regarding the jug is the fact that the weight would be to one side b/c it is on the ground in a position where it can only be on one side of her body which would mean she is using one side of her body to pull the weight more than the opposite side?If someone understands the question would you please respond back to me and offer a method that allows the weight she pulls to balanced correctly???????????

leatherface
01-04-2006, 12:15 AM
i dont understand what you mean by one side. i am assuming that you are using a collar instead of a harness and that is the reason she's pulling from one side.

americandream
01-04-2006, 12:15 AM
no this is pretty much weightless. its like a feather. trust me give it a try it is for sound only. tie it to her and take her for a walk.

americandream
01-04-2006, 12:16 AM
do not put anything on the collar harness only!! check out mine above

honestb
01-04-2006, 12:31 AM
would i have to attach a leash to the harness?if i would then wouldnt the weight of the jug eventually pull the leash to either side of her body???????????some-one please help me out here. am i making this to hard to understand.please let me know!

americandream
01-04-2006, 12:40 AM
if you have a proper harness with a ring at the back then you could attach anything to it. and a leash is not needed you need a rope with a clip on the end. a walking harness has a ring on the top of the dogs back.......... does your harness look like mine above?

leatherface
01-04-2006, 12:47 AM
well...you could loop a lead around the jug handle then link it to the harness...most harnesses have the d-link that is located in the middle of their back. so when they pull the lead will stay centered...and even if it does go off to the side will not really make a differance...you are only getting your dog get familiar with what you want her to do..once she is ready to get serious you can buy a pull harness....and another thing..dont try to get her to pull to much weight...75lbs. is way to much for her to be pulling..she might be able to pull the weight but at this stage this is way to much...wait till she is fully developed before you go heavy.

americandream
01-04-2006, 12:55 AM
my opinion is get the harness first.

southernlandknl
01-04-2006, 12:55 AM
are there any household items i could use with the harness for her to pull?
a milk jug and rocks or gravel something to make noise ... put the rocks or marbles or something in the milk jug and tie it to the harness and let em pull that around as pups..let em get used to the noise behind them without them lookin back to see what it is.... how i start out...

southernlandknl
01-04-2006, 12:58 AM
Use a milk jug filled with rocks and other objects for the first month or so just to get her used to the noise behind her before you go to weights. Just put the harness on and let her play with it on with the harness behind her.
:o sorry didnt read b4 i posted great idear ;)

honestb
01-04-2006, 06:47 AM
i'm gonna give this milk jug idea a try. if it works,great,if not what are my other options?

14rock
01-04-2006, 10:14 AM
Basically, you need the milk jug to work if you want her to ever pull. This is the basis of it all, if she wont pull a 2 lb. object making noise like the cart and weights will, chances are she wont pull. You need to take your time with this milk jug and just praise her like hell when she pulls with it on, remember the whole idea of the milk jug is its going to spook the dog a bit, you just need to comfort her and get her focused on you and that its ok to have fun with that noise behind her.

honestb
01-04-2006, 12:06 PM
she pulled the shopping cart with weights just fine, at first she was jumping trying to get momentum,then she lowered her head and body to remain going. she is already obedient(very). i use to swim her alot at the local lake,so she has muscle too. my other question was what else could be used from home to train her,but i guess all there is, is the milk jug trick huh?

14rock
01-04-2006, 12:41 PM
Thats all you will want to use for probably another 12 months. Even though her muscles are developed and she CAN pull alot of weight now, doesnt mean she SHOULD. You really need to allow time for the joints to fuse together and harden. Its a kin to a 8 year old boy bench pressing 200 lbs., some could and it would be impressive, but its terrible on the skeletal structure and will ruin them for later in life.

bronxpits
01-07-2006, 12:01 PM
i was at the pull yard the other day with my 9month i no he young but i threw him no for 1 run with the proper harness pulled 900 running easy pullin as if nothing was there

bronxpits
01-07-2006, 12:01 PM
his second run when he is older imma start to train him when he is about 12-14 months

honestb
01-07-2006, 12:22 PM
i was at the pull yard the other day with my 9month i no he young but i threw him no for 1 run with the proper harness pulled 900 running easy pullin as if nothing was therewhat did u have ur ouo pull and what was it attached to?

honestb
01-07-2006, 12:23 PM
what kind of harness?

simms
01-07-2006, 01:07 PM
If you are truely interested in wieght pull, with your dog. Heres a link to help you get in contact with ppl that can help give you the hands on help you need. If you don't belong to this club already.... you should.

I can not find the link for the Texohma club, however the contacts on the lsspbc can give you that info.


http://www.geocities.com/lsspbc/?20067


Regards.

pitbulllvr25
01-07-2006, 01:41 PM
I used a tire for Candi attached to her harness. Its light and it makes a lot of noise on concrete....lol I did this with her for 3 months before i attached a 25lb weight to her harness.

You can also use a snow sled (plastic) its light and will make noise on the ground.

SEAL
01-07-2006, 01:52 PM
you could even hook the leash to the bottom of the harness.

EnigmaX
01-08-2006, 06:18 PM
900lbs at 9 months old? I wouldn't do that again, definatly not good for your pup. Torn ligaments, pulled muscles, etc. take FOREVER to heal on an adult dog, let alone a pup who's still developing.

Honestb - I'm sure your dog could pull more then a shopping cart, but that doesn't mean he/she should. If your going to do it, and are truely into it, then do it right, start off slow and get the basics of pulling. These dogs have no problem pulling weight, but that's different then being at a weight puling event.

BAU
01-09-2006, 11:47 AM
Try the milk carton or the plastic snow sled. Stick to drag weighting for now until the dog gets the hang of it. Stay away from the shopping cart, you'll develop bad form. The key is repetitiion that's why you stick to the drag weight, and go for short walks with the dog. GRADUALLY increase the distance and then increase the drag weight SLOWLY. Chains and window weights work great and when the dog gets more trained and stronger you can use a tire and add weight inside the tire. If you take things slowly your dog will be fine.

honestb
01-09-2006, 12:18 PM
when my girl is pulling the jug,she never stays heading in a straight direction,which of course causes her body to bend funny. is this normal?

BAU
01-09-2006, 06:04 PM
How do you have the jug attached? It shold be on the end of a rope or leash (about 6 feet long) and laying on the ground. The other end of the rope or leash should then be attached to the D-ring of the harness. If it is set up right and the harness fits right it should be balanced and not pull to one side or another.

bronxpits
01-13-2006, 05:24 PM
when i said 900 lbs 9months i tried it once when i was with a few guys who where pulling there dogs aswell as everyone was impressed because it was his first time and he did it stressless not looking back as if it was nothign basically running im not gonna train untill he is 14months mayb older

bronxpits
01-13-2006, 05:25 PM
oh yeah i used one of my freinds pulling harness's

jbh38
01-13-2006, 10:22 PM
a good thing to start out with is a small chain and a light window weight. Window weights are great for drag weighting. They also make small pull sleds that you can add weight to as the dog progresses.