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ohav4
12-17-2005, 12:45 PM
What is consitered a hard bitter? I dont do any illegal dog fighting or any thing its just i always read about poor biters or hard biters and i wanted to know how can you tell if your dog is a hard biter.




PitDawg
12-17-2005, 01:15 PM
Stratton talked about hard biting dogs in his book ith Maude on the cover. I will try to sum it up for you. If you have the book, or can borrow it, the full article starts on page 120.
"...Hard biting dogs were rare...Why were they rare? Every dog fighter that ever stepped into a pit dreamed of haing one of those crippling, shocking, iron jawed alligators in his hands. Couldn't that trait be consistently reproduced in the breed? Apparently not...They will become even more rare...for two reasond. (1) They can only be identified under Pit Conditions. (2) Whatever physiological and conformational traits that play a part in giving the dog his biting advantage are not readily visible to the breeder.
Look at "Old Tige" hang on that sack. "Locks them jaws right up, Boy." Well, that sack doesn't have him by the front leg, jamming him into the corner, trying to tear his shoulder out. You might be surprised to see that "Old Tige" couldn't get his teeth together under such conditions.
Against a worthy opponent, a hard biting dog could take a shoulder hold and immediately penetrate the hide, sink his fangs through an inch and a half of muscle and clamp it like a vice. Muscle was bruised and torn, nerves were cut, the whole area filled with blood, and became inoperable in a few minutes. Your average good fighting dog took the same hold, broke the skin, pinched the muscle and bruised it, while the light biter didn't break the skin, but bruised the muscle....These effects were only valid when tested against a comparable athlete.
...Why did he bite hard on a rag, but not in the pit? Well, for one thing, the rag didn't fight back.
...What about the physiology and conformation? Look at the pictures of the legendary hard biters. Their heads were all shapes. It sisn't seem to matter if the dog had a long muzzle or short; whether he was undershot or had an even bite; whether the head was big or small. Teeth not only frequently did not meet evenly, but were not necessarily long and sharp. Whatever common denominator of bone and muscle relationship that existed in those hard biting dogs is not readily apparent.
....Bulldogs are what they are because of their hearts, not their teeth.
Regardless of how hard he CAN bite, he won't bite hard unles he WANTS to."

chinasmom
12-17-2005, 04:33 PM
....Bulldogs are what they are because of their hearts, not their teeth.
Regardless of how hard he CAN bite, he won't bite hard unles he WANTS to."


I really like that. Wow !!!<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

coyrobert
12-17-2005, 09:33 PM
good post pitdawg!!!!