sumo rules...

[bjh]

heard reference to these rules and was curious as to exactly wut all they entail and how do you all feel about sumo rules vs cajun rules...would they make for more deep game dogs or do you think cajun rules are still the best method for judging a contest?...for historical and entertainment purposes only of course...

[peppapig]

never heard of them.....are ye sure some1 aint pulling your plonker...

[kayo45]

You talking bout the Rules for the Tosa's?

[bjh]

yes...japanese match rules...i believe any vocalizations are faults and undesired etc...jus wanted to learn more about them...thx...peppa i doubt it was a plonker puller perhaps i jus didnt state the ? clear enough...lol...

[noblebostons]

The problem with that set of rules is the vocal dog loses, so it's opponent actually gets a win. This leads to dogs with ridiculously big (and undeserved) win records.

[NewSchoolDogMan]

I've talked to a few tosa breeders and sumo rules are quite basic, though isn't exactly an accurate way to test gameness. In fact, a dog that is well ahead can suddenly lose due to a bark, whelp, scream, etc. Though in a Yokozuna's case (an undefeated gr. ch.), it is considered a no contest. The sport isn't exactly as clear cut or as fair since there is a lot of bias and when going into a yokozuna, sumo rules favor them.

[bjh]

does anyone know the actual rules though?...

[kayo45]

I think those are the actual rules

It explains why APBT's dont do too well under sumo rules

[NewSchoolDogMan]

does anyone know the actual rules though?...

The Inuawase, the japanese term for dog matching, is conducted under Sumo rules, which states that the two dogs to be matched are held in the opposite side of the fenced ring and released when the referee states to do so. Once released, dogs fight continuous rounds of 3 min. fights, or if it is a match between yokozunas, rounds of 5 mins. The dogs fight until one loses the will to fight or picked up by the handler. If both dogs do not lose the will to fight, but both dogs are seriously injured, the referee may call the match and the match is considered a draw. If both dogs loses the will to fight, it is considered a draw. If both dogs do not lose the will to fight, but one dog is at risk of dying and the other dog is not, the match is considered a win for the dog that was ahead. During the match, the handlers of the two dogs are allowed to freely converse and may offer a call for a draw that can be rejected or accepted by the other handler, which the referee will then call after the end of the ongoing round. Dogs that also bites either handler, utters any sort of noise, or attempts to mount are disqualified and are given a loss. The exception to this would be yokozunas and the match is called a no contest. A no contest my also be called at the referee's dicretion due to a medical reason that is/was unforseen and/or injuries that are not caused by the other dog, it is considered a no contest and if it was a dog attempting to gain his yokozuna title, then a rematch may be called. (there have been cases where huge amounts of money are/were waged and gamblers have stabbed dogs that are/were near the side of the iron bars of the ring).

*unlike here where we have titles such a ch and gr. ch., once a tosa wins 3, he is consdered a yokozuna. However, there are varies degrees of yokozunas and there are yokozunas that have has many as 15+ wins.

[NewSchoolDogMan]

I think those are the actual rules

It explains why APBT's dont do too well under sumo rules

LOL, you'd be surprised since there are a few cases where apbts have curred out a tosa inu under Sumo rules within 4 rounds (assuming they were 3 min. rounds since I've not heard of a yokozuna that has lost to anything except a tosa).