Bear Baiting

[InFa-[BLUE]-BeAm]

As Far As Bear Baiting Goes, This Post Is Just For Fun. What Breed Of Dog Do You Think Would Be Best Suited For Taking Down A Bear? And How Many Of Them Do You Think It Would Take? Im Guessing 4 Dogos.

[ImMe]

http://www.bulldoginformation.com/bull-baiting.html - just do your research on the true apbt...

[InFa-[BLUE]-BeAm]

i know that the apbt has been used for bear baiting. I was just wondering if you guys thought they would be the best dog for it. or if another breed of dog could do it better.

[0ni]

i think hyenas go hard or go home lol i would say it depends on the dog personality some dog of all breeds ant got the heart but if i had to pick i have to take some pits huskies and malamutes

[Pipbull]

1 bulldog......

Or maybe 1 or 2 Rhodesian Ridgebacks, the ones bred for lion hunting.


But then again, this discusses an illegal hypothetical. Like asking what breed would be the best at dog fighting.....

[InFa-[BLUE]-BeAm]

yeah...i know this is a game bred apbt forum so naturally most will vote pit. and they have been used in the past for this very same thing. i think some dogos would do the job...not that some pits couldnt

[bulldog426]

i know they use mountain curs for hunting mountain lions, and i think they use em, or use to use em for bear hunting as well.
bear baiting, i guess a apbt crossed in with some old bulldog, and some old mastiff, would do the trick.

[dwd58]

I am a bear and a hog hunter. I own hounds and bulldogs. I can tell you first hand that a good bulldog can handle the biggest , baddest , hog most of the time. But I have never seen two or three bulldogs handle a full grown bear in the wild . It takes a hound to just nip and bay a bear and really just pester a bear until it bays or climbs. A hound acts like a small, light weight prize fighter. They dart in, nip, back out , bay. They dont latch on, and if they do, they are a dead hound.
I was in Tenn, a few years ago on a bearhunt. We had one bayed up with hounds, not a real big one, but a mature one that was about 250 lbs. The hounds could bay it up for a few minutes, but it would soon break and go out of hearing. This went on for several hours and Along came a guy we know that was hog hunting with 3 mostly white bulldogs (the breeeding which I dont know). He had caught several bad hogs with these bulldogs in the past, and was just itching to get them on a bear, as he had never had the right oportunity to see if they could take down a bear. We told him the situation and he wanted to turn in the bulldogs , the next time we got close to the baying hounds. After an hour or so, we worked our way in closer to the baying hounds. He turned the three white bulldogs loose and they went flying toward the action as fast as they could go. You could tell just when they got to the bear, as it sounded like all hell broke loose . The hounds , although very tired, chimed in to a higher feverous pitch as if the reached back and grabbed that extra bit of stamina that was left in them. These piercing squalls and screames of the hounds went on for about 3 or 4 minutes, and then the bay started to move away, as it had done several times that day. As we got into the area where the action had taken place, the hounds were going over the top of the mountain, still in pusuit of the bear.
The ground, where the action had taken place was ruffed up and scarred, almost to the point where it looked as if a small dozier had torn up the forrest. Off to one side lay two of the white bulldogs, crushed skulls and bloody lifeless forms. About 25 yards up the trail lay the third...he had been smashed up against a giant oak tree. laying there dead, we could see a piece of the bears ear still in its mouth .

[rallyracer]

catahoula
mountain cur
various mastiffs
etc, etc,etc
there are probably a dozen breeds of dogs that would be physically capable of the task of taking down a large animal...the numver of dogs required to do so varies greatly

[Bullyson]

Thats a wild story.


I am a bear and a hog hunter. I own hounds and bulldogs. I can tell you first hand that a good bulldog can handle the biggest , baddest , hog most of the time. But I have never seen two or three bulldogs handle a full grown bear in the wild . It takes a hound to just nip and bay a bear and really just pester a bear until it bays or climbs. A hound acts like a small, light weight prize fighter. They dart in, nip, back out , bay. They dont latch on, and if they do, they are a dead hound.
I was in Tenn, a few years ago on a bearhunt. We had one bayed up with hounds, not a real big one, but a mature one that was about 250 lbs. The hounds could bay it up for a few minutes, but it would soon break and go out of hearing. This went on for several hours and Along came a guy we know that was hog hunting with 3 mostly white bulldogs (the breeeding which I dont know). He had caught several bad hogs with these bulldogs in the past, and was just itching to get them on a bear, as he had never had the right oportunity to see if they could take down a bear. We told him the situation and he wanted to turn in the bulldogs , the next time we got close to the baying hounds. After an hour or so, we worked our way in closer to the baying hounds. He turned the three white bulldogs loose and they went flying toward the action as fast as they could go. You could tell just when they got to the bear, as it sounded like all hell broke loose . The hounds , although very tired, chimed in to a higher feverous pitch as if the reached back and grabbed that extra bit of stamina that was left in them. These piercing squalls and screames of the hounds went on for about 3 or 4 minutes, and then the bay started to move away, as it had done several times that day. As we got into the area where the action had taken place, the hounds were going over the top of the mountain, still in pusuit of the bear.
The ground, where the action had taken place was ruffed up and scarred, almost to the point where it looked as if a small dozier had torn up the forrest. Off to one side lay two of the white bulldogs, crushed skulls and bloody lifeless forms. About 25 yards up the trail lay the third...he had been smashed up against a giant oak tree. laying there dead, we could see a piece of the bears ear still in its mouth .

[Osea]

Stupid thread.

[InFa-[BLUE]-BeAm]

catahoula
mountain cur
various mastiffs
etc, etc,etc
there are probably a dozen breeds of dogs that would be physically capable of the task of taking down a large animal...the numver of dogs required to do so varies greatly


you are right, it would probably be alot

[bulldog426]

I am a bear and a hog hunter. I own hounds and bulldogs. I can tell you first hand that a good bulldog can handle the biggest , baddest , hog most of the time. But I have never seen two or three bulldogs handle a full grown bear in the wild . It takes a hound to just nip and bay a bear and really just pester a bear until it bays or climbs. A hound acts like a small, light weight prize fighter. They dart in, nip, back out , bay. They dont latch on, and if they do, they are a dead hound.
I was in Tenn, a few years ago on a bearhunt. We had one bayed up with hounds, not a real big one, but a mature one that was about 250 lbs. The hounds could bay it up for a few minutes, but it would soon break and go out of hearing. This went on for several hours and Along came a guy we know that was hog hunting with 3 mostly white bulldogs (the breeeding which I dont know). He had caught several bad hogs with these bulldogs in the past, and was just itching to get them on a bear, as he had never had the right oportunity to see if they could take down a bear. We told him the situation and he wanted to turn in the bulldogs , the next time we got close to the baying hounds. After an hour or so, we worked our way in closer to the baying hounds. He turned the three white bulldogs loose and they went flying toward the action as fast as they could go. You could tell just when they got to the bear, as it sounded like all hell broke loose . The hounds , although very tired, chimed in to a higher feverous pitch as if the reached back and grabbed that extra bit of stamina that was left in them. These piercing squalls and screames of the hounds went on for about 3 or 4 minutes, and then the bay started to move away, as it had done several times that day. As we got into the area where the action had taken place, the hounds were going over the top of the mountain, still in pusuit of the bear.
The ground, where the action had taken place was ruffed up and scarred, almost to the point where it looked as if a small dozier had torn up the forrest. Off to one side lay two of the white bulldogs, crushed skulls and bloody lifeless forms. About 25 yards up the trail lay the third...he had been smashed up against a giant oak tree. laying there dead, we could see a piece of the bears ear still in its mouth .
man that is crazy, did yall ever get the bear?

[BoiBoi]

i highly doubt there is any breed of dog that can actually dispatch or even pin a bear down, baying hounds are the only way to go when dealing with a bear, remeber folks u could have hardest biting, biggest dog in the woods but that mutt still doesn't compare to the brute strength, plus the long ass claws of an adult bear. to me its foolish to send bulldogs on a bear because we all know what the outcome will be

[Boze]

i do not care how game your dog is a bear is huge and a very capable fighter they are built to hunt and built for battle. not to mention the shear size and strength of a bear is just ridiculous

[mntman2003]

a grizzly will take a cows head off one hit....gameness is now gameover.

[InFa-[BLUE]-BeAm]

a real large number of dogs like 10-15 shoot maybe even 20, could take out a bear i think though.

[BoiBoi]

-BeAm;284199']a real large number of dogs like 10-15 shoot maybe even 20, could take out a bear i think though.

yea but out of 20 ur gonna loose atleast 10 if not more, At that point that hunt is pointless because ur loosing more than ur gaining

[rallyracer]

ok, lets get down to real deal here

grizzly- not happeneing
brown bear- STILL not happening

black bear will run from people and 99% of the canine species. my dogs have flushed them out on night hikes
back home my neigbors shitzu treed a 300 pound black bear on the line from yard to forest..and it stayed there for over 30 minutes scared out of its mind...mind you this dog was a fiery 12 pounds. and there are pictures to prove it. the only way to get that bear out of the tree was "Ma Bell" ( .45 cal) ringing in the air. one shot and the bear slid down the tree fast as can be and high tailed it back up the mountain.

so basically what im saying is the only NA bear that a dog would even have a chance with it eastern black bear. not saying 1 dog can take it down- still gonna take several...but with the other 2 bears the dogS dont stand a chance

[dwd58]

In the right situatuion, a poodle can get a bear to tree...if it agravates it enough , this is not what we are talking about.. And yes, they are like most wild animals , they will run 99% of the time if given the chance. But if you corner them, we are talking taking down a grown bear , it is just about impossible to take down a wild grown bear with a pack of dogs . it can be done, but I have been hunting 40 years and I only saw it once...and that was a pack of 3 plotts that got one down on its back, but even they couldnt hold it down.

[dwd58]

http://i38.tinypic.com/2127cl0.jpg

[dwd58]

The pic above is a 250lber that we bayed up against a farmers fence a few years ago with the Black and Tans during training season. Notice the distance the hounds keep between them and the bear. One will move in on one side and bite, then one will move in on the other side and bite, just back and forth, more or less just agitating the bear until he trees.