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Shon
04-13-2004, 04:44 PM
What do you think the best bloodline cross is?

If you choose Other, please post a reply to explain

KnOck
04-13-2004, 05:57 PM
I like the Jeep/Redboy cross even tho its not what I am running right now. I'm soon to have a dbl Haymaker male pup directly off of him. Then I will be adding some other blood to my program to see what I can come up with. Trying to do things alil different;)


Knock 'Em Out

LA_Headhunters
04-13-2004, 08:22 PM
I like the Stompanato-Boomerang/ Butcher Boy cross. Seems to produce more TOTAL PACKAGE offspring. All of the other crosses work real well though I actually have some of them on the yard.

3BK
04-24-2004, 09:28 PM
well we all know the most famous and most proven cross of all is RedBoy x Jeep cross. But what I like best is Carver x Bolio x Six Bits/Eli cross! Bringing out smart ass pitdogs with a heavy mouth and game as they come! yis...............

KURUPT
04-24-2004, 09:40 PM
Naw Bro the most famous Cross of all time is the Eli x Carver cross :D

3BK
04-24-2004, 10:16 PM
Naw Bro the most famous Cross of all time is the Eli x Carver cross :D
Nice one bro!!! Ehehehe!!!

3BK
04-24-2004, 10:17 PM
uhmmm.... hows about eli x bullsyon? juzzzz playin there!!! eheheh!!!

LA_Headhunters
04-25-2004, 11:41 AM
Naw Bro the most famous Cross of all time is the Eli x Carver cross :D

Eli X Carver how 'bout that.. Man of my own mind

GYD
05-05-2004, 04:21 PM
That battle cross...Redboy/Jocko/Bolio/Tombstone!!! :cool:

MMK
05-05-2004, 05:14 PM
there are so many bloodlines and crosses that are great. in some areas a certian bloodline is working great and in other places it is the curr blood. i voted for jeep/redboy cause it is working very well in my area.
MMK

gator
05-05-2004, 06:30 PM
I like Sorrells` crossed with a little bit of Mims.

J M A N
05-06-2004, 09:10 AM
What about the ELI/Snooty crosses? Good-mouth and a fastlane dog.

PADogman
05-09-2004, 03:47 PM
there are so many bloodlines and crosses that are great. in some areas a certian bloodline is working great and in other places it is the curr blood. i voted for jeep/redboy cause it is working very well in my area.
MMK


Isnt that true in my area i find more Zebo/Art game bread dogs

KnOck
05-20-2004, 12:16 AM
Naw Bro the most famous Cross of all time is the Eli x Carver cross :D Tru dat!!!!!!! ;)

KURUPT
05-20-2004, 12:21 AM
What about the ELI/Snooty crosses? Good-mouth and a fastlane dog.

That's a Eli x Carver cross......

ęSDKę
05-20-2004, 01:53 AM
Naw Bro the most famous Cross of all time is the Eli x Carver cross :D

hehehehe :p

HCK
05-21-2004, 10:16 AM
If you've got a good game line, I would have to say Chinaman or this www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=74635 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=74635)
hehehehe :p

Crash97
07-27-2004, 08:57 AM
As has been said before, I'm goin with the Eli x Carver.

AC
07-27-2004, 10:40 AM
I'd have to say red boy/jocko/alligator I have a 2xw bitch off that cross and I'm sticking with what works.

blueyamr6
08-03-2004, 08:15 AM
carver x eli or carver x chinamen that is what i run in my yard great dogs and beautiful pups

Big River Kennels
08-05-2004, 10:50 PM
naw naw naw, you guys are all missin the boat. best bloodline cross is indian bolio/nigerino

Big River Kennels
08-05-2004, 10:52 PM
another good cross is O Stevens/mason hog dog.

Big River Kennels
08-05-2004, 10:53 PM
I am going to experiment over the next two years with some blood lines and find a strain on which one works best for me. then I will let everyone know.

nextbigthang
08-07-2004, 11:34 AM
my favorite is kind of old and really hard to find now its kominski and lightner i saw alot of these dogs do some damage when i was a kid. most of them came from roccas yard he is an awesome breeder. i like that redboy blood with the jeep cross redboy blood always was turn on late like almost 2 years old but the cross with jeep kinda solved that problem.

ROK QUARRI
08-07-2004, 03:21 PM
I personally like the REDNOSE/CHOCOLATE bloodline...LOL !!!! Second I like the BLUENOSE/BRINDLE
bloodlines ....LOL !!! My pits all weigh like 130lbs and over and they is official...Ya Shmell Me !!!
Yall don`t know what da` real pits is. Them little don`t ain`t really repin`. LOL-LOL-LOL !!!!

Crash97
08-07-2004, 07:02 PM
All I can say is ....yep....LOL
I personally like the REDNOSE/CHOCOLATE bloodline...LOL !!!! Second I like the BLUENOSE/BRINDLE
bloodlines ....LOL !!! My pits all weigh like 130lbs and over and they is official...Ya Shmell Me !!!
Yall don`t know what da` real pits is. Them little don`t ain`t really repin`. LOL-LOL-LOL !!!!

JC-Pitbulls
08-11-2004, 07:01 PM
I like the jeep/rascal X boudreaux. This works good for me. My dogs are smart and they have a hard bite, and they catch hogs.

Big River Kennels
08-11-2004, 10:49 PM
nigerino x indian bolio x jeep

FreakinWindows
08-12-2004, 02:02 PM
I got me some Rednose Dogs not 100+ pounders but they work.. Hemphill/Wilder with some bit of Redboy.. And i may try to get some Panther Blood to see how it is soon as we make the move to a bigger location..PEAcE..
nigerino x indian bolio x jeep

GrChPitBitch
08-12-2004, 04:35 PM
my favorite is kind of old and really hard to find now its kominski and lightner i saw alot of these dogs do some damage when i was a kid. most of them came from roccas yard he is an awesome breeder. i like that redboy blood with the jeep cross redboy blood always was turn on late like almost 2 years old but the cross with jeep kinda solved that problem.

I agree, what Rocca puts out is awesome... for the patient... LOL

Heres one for ya... http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=131556



And this little bitch is showing good stuff... goes back to indian bolio/mims on top... Hoping to breed back into the Goodes stuff, to try to tighten it up... see what I get... (Not all that interested in going back to the tufftown stuff... LOL)

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=114073

rocksteady
08-13-2004, 03:16 PM
McCoy /REd Devil or McCoy /Eli .. I'm thinking fo doing a McCoy /Boudreaux cross or McCoy/Jeep (love Honeybunch lol)
but as for best? That would be a tough one! They each contribute something .. some are just more popular than others..doesnt mean they are better

JC-Pitbulls
08-20-2004, 10:08 PM
McCoy /REd Devil or McCoy /Eli .. I'm thinking fo doing a McCoy /Boudreaux cross or McCoy/Jeep (love Honeybunch lol)
but as for best? That would be a tough one! They each contribute something .. some are just more popular than others..doesnt mean they are better

I agree popular doesn't mean better. I've seen too many people buy dogs because someone else has one.

knlman2003
08-23-2004, 04:31 PM
i vote for redby/jocko because that's what i have on my yard and it works for me.i have a patrick/redboy/jocko with a touch of jeep/rascal that is all the b**** i need.if you feel diferent let me know and hit me up on email so we can chat

nc_pitbulls
08-31-2004, 06:54 PM
i like termite x redboy x jaco or termite x redboy and jeep

PitBulls4Life98
09-03-2004, 12:16 PM
I like Zebo/Eli crosses...

rcbuck
09-04-2004, 04:47 PM
My personal reflection on the matter: Hemphill-Maloney, check cover-dog, S.D.J Sept-Oct.!!!!

who
10-24-2004, 01:45 PM
I voted for OTHER cause there are alot of crosses and they just put up the FAMOUS ones......when i finally get a EARL JR. pup im gonna prolly cross it with some PURE MAYFIELD dog and and then take it back again to get a VERY GOOD cross....i know yall will prolly BASH the kershner dogs but but don't knock it tell you tried it.....
Thanks
Krispun Y

JC-Pitbulls
10-28-2004, 01:55 PM
Eppinette Kennels has some good Earl Jr. blood. www.eppinettekennels.com (http://www.eppinettekennels.com)

PADogman
11-27-2004, 01:08 AM
I like Eli/Watchdog nice bloodlines and great dogs

SFK
11-27-2004, 09:16 AM
JMO RedBoy X Boyles winning combo. Ms. Anthrope You have to let me know how that Rocca dog you have turns out. We've got some irons in the fire that will make you shiver!

PADogman
11-27-2004, 04:46 PM
nice looking dogs.


Eppinette Kennels has some good Earl Jr. blood. www.eppinettekennels.com (http://www.eppinettekennels.com/)

Nitrous
11-27-2004, 05:13 PM
What about Red Boy/Sorrell?

PSK
11-28-2004, 04:01 PM
I was pretty happy with my Red Boy/Hemphill crosses. True history on Red Boy is that nobody really knew how he was bred anyway. He came from an area where Bob Hemphill left some of his original red nose stock - when he decided to pursue the brindles. Its ironic that Red Boy who's littermates supposedly were brindles consitently threw red/yellow red nose dogs. My cross into the Hemphill line IMO was just bringing two sides of the same family together. But that's just my opinion.

PADogman
11-28-2004, 04:17 PM
anyone ever hear of an Outlaw bloodline.Wanted to see some dogs from that line.anyone has any info on that line let me know thanks.

hawk
11-28-2004, 10:29 PM
anyone ever hear of an Outlaw bloodline.Wanted to see some dogs from that line.anyone has any info on that line let me know thanks.
Outlaw's pedigree reads that he is a half brother to Red Boy, out of Teal's Jeff. Other than that I don't know much of that bloodline.

http://k9ped.com/cgi-bin/geneal.pl?op=tree&index=24608&gens=4&db=pitbull.dbw

O.D.
12-17-2004, 10:55 AM
Bolio/boomerang, Eli/carver You Know Foundation To Some Of The Boyles Dogs, As Well As Other Greats.

O.d.:d

The Watcher
12-18-2004, 09:39 PM
Jeep/Redboy/Rascal
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<b>WHITE'S TAB
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CRENSHAWS GATOR (4XW)
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CALDWELL'S DRAGON
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CALDWELL'S RENAISSANCE MAN

SFK
12-19-2004, 12:24 PM
5050 do you have Renaissance Man? I have a friend with 2 pups bred the same way. Looks exactly like him. Oh & on the cross... What do you think of this?

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=147856

The Watcher
12-19-2004, 09:12 PM
5050 do you have Renaissance Man? I have a friend with 2 pups bred the same way. Looks exactly like him. Oh & on the cross... What do you think of this?

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=147856yes "Mannie" is mine. He is on the couch right now passed out. Hey guess it's a small world after all. Hook me up with your friends. You cannot beat the "Gator" bloodline!

SFK
12-20-2004, 10:12 AM
5050, He's the same guy who does the mills. You should email him.

brobrk
12-20-2004, 05:52 PM
sixbits maverick and add a lil toby in there. see you in the "fastlane"

The Watcher
12-20-2004, 06:05 PM
zoom,zoom,zoom....

Calhoun
12-21-2004, 01:01 PM
Jeep/redboy/eli with a slash of reddevil. Hard mouth and athletic. Good natural wind is hard to find out of this mix. But the mouth is in high%. The athletic % of the pups are just as high.

Saiyagin
12-21-2004, 05:14 PM
Jeep/Honeybunch crossed into RBJ.

brobrk
12-21-2004, 08:33 PM
sixbits\maverick with a lil bit of toby will get you in the square!!!!!

mutt
12-22-2004, 09:36 PM
the bes cross ive seen is chinaman/snooty

DEACON ROM
12-29-2004, 05:45 PM
I am going to experiment over the next two years with some blood lines and find a strain on which one works best for me. then I will let everyone know.
sounds like a plan:)

DEACON ROM
12-29-2004, 05:48 PM
i like the ch freedie to a daughter of kingfish myself.


http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=28392

mutt
12-29-2004, 05:53 PM
lol yall know what i like yall prolly tired of hearin it...lol........chinaman/snotty

TERRIBLE TEXAS
12-29-2004, 05:57 PM
im gonna have to go with maverick/sixbits

shakky socks
12-30-2004, 12:41 PM
u have to include the corvino line !!!

best tempermented dogs ever had:D :)

shakky socks
12-31-2004, 10:32 AM
get yor scales out ,role the carpet out , and pack a lunch , its going to be a long day!!;) :) ;) corvino redboy/ carver best cross ever!!

" GOT PACK ?"WE DO " need help you got it!!!!

ths thng of ours
01-01-2005, 01:05 PM
this is an across the board request. ive been in love with the breed all my life, owning a few "classified ads" quality dogs growing up.i loved the thought of a companion that was made up as the same suff as me: tuff, smart, loyal, hardworkin sob always ready 4 a challenge. im in a fixed location now being out of the army, and im ready to start getting serious. i wont make a bloodline choice and get into the game until i feel satisfied with enough info(from people who really know what the heck they're talkin about lol), so heres a chance 4 everybody willin 2 share knowledge tell me about your line, man. whats best what they bring 2 the table

Big River Kennels
01-01-2005, 01:20 PM
bolio/nigerino cross, i am now looking into a tombstone/jeep cross with a little butcher boy.

Big River Kennels
01-01-2005, 01:21 PM
i will be having a litter ready first week or so of april and I will see how the pups throw, these are jeep/o stevens

ths thng of ours
01-01-2005, 01:48 PM
i will be having a litter ready first week or so of april and

I will see how the pups throw, these are jeep/o stevens

so what are u expecting 2 achieve with these crosses(itll give me an idea of whats dominant traits from each line)

Big River Kennels
01-01-2005, 02:18 PM
you have to just pick out a bloodline that you want in your yard and start from there

Big River Kennels
01-01-2005, 02:19 PM
if you get your yard too diverse then it could take years if not decades to even find out what is going well with what.

SWAMPER
01-01-2005, 10:22 PM
Eli /butcher Boy Cross Very Well Imo

IRISH
02-25-2005, 07:50 PM
i like redboy x jocko x sorrells i got a bitch with that blood shes intelligent catches hogs and got a first place for her age group at an aadr show judge was B.S

waters
02-25-2005, 08:17 PM
i like deadlift x jake the snake/ termite blood myself

Nigerino.com/
02-26-2005, 01:06 AM
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=81568

This little dog is one I think any one would like no matter what blood line they keep.

Shorty Red
04-28-2005, 01:23 PM
My vote is going to be Indian Bolio/Boyle's Dirty Mary. I have a lot of this mix in my yard, and they're nothing but the best!

FireBone
04-28-2005, 04:19 PM
I think the best cross is eli/snooty but that's not what i am going to go with I really like the REDBOY-JOCKO/TOMBSTONE-BOLIO DOGS I really like Gr.ch Mahobuck and I know this dog is going to be on the ROM list one day mark my words.

matetkent
04-28-2005, 09:44 PM
the best bloodline cross the sire:Fox X Bama and the dam: Bolio X Carver

HighRoller
04-30-2005, 09:55 AM
Big fan of Snooty/Eli

SWAMPER
05-01-2005, 09:01 PM
HEHEHEHEHEEHHEEHHEEHEHEHHEEH CROSSES
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.co...p?dog_id=140392 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=140392)

ALSO THIS GYP TO THE SAME MALE
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.co...p?dog_id=146460 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=146460)

AND THIS 1 ALSO
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.co...hp?dog_id=45696 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=45696)

auggiedog
05-05-2005, 05:22 AM
I THINK THE BEST CROSS IS THE COLBYx ELI THAT STARTED THE JEEP LINE

texas_dogger
08-26-2007, 08:16 AM
IMHO Redboy jocko bolio tombstone has to be my favorite. It works very well for me. My second favorite would probably Eli Bolio cross also phenominal dogs.

SJBPolo28
08-26-2007, 08:56 AM
I would have to say my boy below...

Jeep/redboy/jocko/eli/bolio.

But you can't go wrong with a good Jeep/Rascal;)

SJBPolo28
08-26-2007, 08:59 AM
My boy is the best cross I have ever seen!!! Ch. Vega420

But you can't go wrong with a good Jeep/Rascal

SPFDOGS
08-29-2007, 02:48 PM
A friend of mine made a 4 way cross on some Panther/Frisco/Maloney/Boomerang stuff, and 3 out of 4 are quality bulldogs..
I personally havent expieremented to much with crossing lines,but recently made a 3/4 Chinaman 1/4 Boudreaux cross for a friend and myself,and I have a young male that is showing great promise that is a Chinaman/Bolio cross off Ch"MacGuyver" to a daughter of "Alvernon"..Hopefuly with these to "injections" of new blood I wont have to cross out for awhile..

lockjaw
08-29-2007, 03:09 PM
best dog i ever owned...corvino/alligator...and no not gator mouth..like carver but slow..

jeeperino
08-29-2007, 03:28 PM
Out of the choices given, Tombstone/Bolio HAS to be the obvious choice. It has stood the test of time as much as ANY and can compliment virtually ANY bloodline.

lockjaw
08-30-2007, 04:35 AM
here this would be my choice.......http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/8904/mmm.htm......;) making of a fine breeding.

Mr Mark
08-30-2007, 06:42 AM
Gentleman, the greatest cross of all time is Eli/Carver!

I saw Bolio/Nigerino...that's Eli/Carver, I saw Chinaman...that's Eli/Carver, I saw Boyles mentioned...that's Eli/Carver, and I even saw Jeep...50% Eli/Carver.

Which strain of Eli/Carver? AHA!

So, if I had to answer the OP's poll question than I would have to go with the obvious choice...SixBit/Maverick!

P.S. But, in all honesty, no line is better than the other. Each line has had it's greatness and it's failures! It's just preference! It's what you, as an individual, make of it!

SMOKIN HEMI
11-21-2008, 08:27 PM
Bumpppppp!!!!

SMOKIN HEMI
11-21-2008, 08:35 PM
Boyles mayday X's are what i thnk I am interested in...

sadieblues
11-21-2008, 09:05 PM
sorrells/corvino

TripleJ
11-22-2008, 08:04 AM
Boyles mayday X's are what i thnk I am interested in...
You are on track But try the Boyles x Midnight Cowboy TOTAL MONSTERS! with so much talent and most are so hot by 6 months its like having a grown one. ( of course The sire and dame have to be good ones ) But I have seen more good dogs come bred like this cross than any other ,Back in the day of course ,but it also seemed like people bred Bulldogs to Bulldogs not just paper. J

Clint73
11-22-2008, 09:41 AM
best cross i sense for caughting hogs was a redboy/jocko X scott/bambaboy Am Bulldog about 70 lbs would slam hogs .

kb kennles
11-22-2008, 11:15 AM
reids x patricks is nice x

JBlazeRx7
02-06-2009, 08:26 PM
I don't know if I've seen it done but a straight Jeep/bolio cross 50/50. Any known dog like this?:confused:

HighRiskKennels
02-06-2009, 09:09 PM
The Redboy/Jocko stuff is proven time and time again but i like to go against the grain and try new things! The jeep and sorrells stuff i dont like for what ive seen from them first hand so nobody can say it was 1 bad dog its more like.....5!

hoovereport77
02-06-2009, 09:25 PM
i run carver eli , carver eli bolio dogs

ANCHOR
02-07-2009, 09:05 AM
ill go a Redboy/Sorrells any day at the presant time(all personal preferances i see, thats good);)

preme
02-07-2009, 10:20 AM
eli+carver patrick+bolio

moonshine
02-07-2009, 10:21 AM
redboy/jocko/bolio/tomstone

dajuice
02-07-2009, 10:25 AM
I like a good Eli/ coby cross. Nigerino/Outlaw

bohawg00
02-07-2009, 05:05 PM
Redboy x a stump = game splinters!

CrazyHorse
02-07-2009, 05:39 PM
I have to agree with GYD and the RBJT dogs have been the most consistent over the past 10, 15 years or so. Since 1998 a RBJT has won the DOTY every other year on average.

Bobby Rooster
02-07-2009, 05:41 PM
Lmao bohawg

M&M kennel
02-07-2009, 07:45 PM
Eli Is Carver

M&M kennel
02-07-2009, 07:49 PM
ELI CARVER AND CHIANMAN ARE THE SAME IN YOUR BREEDING PROGRAM

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=77378

Caos
02-08-2009, 01:40 PM
eli/chinaman Powerfull Dogs!

Trouble
02-08-2009, 01:58 PM
what about Jeep x Chinamen cross

TripleJ
02-08-2009, 09:56 PM
Eli Is Carver
AHH NO! Eli was mostly a Tudor-Heinzl dog with a bit of fergason and Clouse blood. He had no Carver in him. Carver wanted Eli dogs after he saw them on Floyds yard. Carver crossed his stuff with Eli blood.

AceBoogie
02-10-2009, 12:52 PM
CHINAMAN/SIXBITS good finisher:p in this cross you pretty much get most of F.B. breeding work BOZE,MAVERICK,ELI, shit it looks good to me

PurePit19
02-10-2009, 01:50 PM
Redboy/Jeep/Zebo and the Cottingham/Lonzo has worked well in my neck of the woods. Most don't like the zebo blood, but it works good for me.

rayne_terror03
02-13-2009, 12:08 AM
you cant beat a good Red Boy/Jocko dog! check the history winners and producers!!!;)

bulldog426
02-13-2009, 01:08 AM
i'm gonna have to say that jeepxhoneybunch cross is good. or that gatorheadxamerican rednose cross.....:D:D actually i went with jeepxredboy because i've seen alot of jamup dogs with that blood, i've seen quiet a few dblgrch hog dogs that were either that, or had that in at least one of the parents to them were...

jaime818
12-27-2009, 10:55 PM
red boy/jeep

Phyzzle
12-28-2009, 05:47 AM
I would say Boudreaux' Carver Colby. Would say Jeep/Honeybunch but that came from that cross anyway....

ohpitbulls
12-28-2009, 10:19 AM
Isnt that true in my area i find more Zebo/Art game bread dogs
i see alot of this here in OHIO also

budboy88
12-28-2009, 03:40 PM
jeep/eli or jeep/midnight cowboy

all gold
12-30-2009, 06:32 AM
Honeybunch/redboy/jocko/bolio/Tombstone / also straight up Stonewall / Bruiser / Hollingsworth

trey01
12-30-2009, 08:37 AM
redboy/jocko /tombstone/bolio....seems to have worked the best for me

gimwitag
01-03-2010, 02:07 AM
My choice of cross would be eli /carver

feastodg
01-03-2010, 02:43 PM
id have to say redboy/jocko as the all-time best cross because it has become a strain on its own, also the numbers dont lie. RBJ ALL DAY...

williewonka1
01-03-2010, 02:52 PM
Jeep/rascal

SlaughterHouse
01-03-2010, 03:54 PM
redboy/snooty

grave digger
01-05-2010, 08:34 PM
My male is what i was told is heavy on the jeep with some bolio/boyles and some eli with some convino <!-- / message --> <!-- controls --> http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/ca_evo_black/buttons/report.gif (http://www.game-dog.com/forums/report.php?p=395545)

killbob
01-05-2010, 08:38 PM
redboy bolio eli

roobs
01-05-2010, 09:23 PM
im not sure you can say any one cross has the monopoly on it there is just too many variables. how bout hairy mclary from donaldsons dairy x pluto :D

roobs
01-05-2010, 09:26 PM
My male is what i was told is heavy on the jeep with some bolio/boyles and some eli with some convino <!-- / message --> <!-- controls --> http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/ca_evo_black/buttons/report.gif (http://www.game-dog.com/forums/report.php?p=395545)that corvino stuff is ol skool what corvino dogs do you have in them can you put up a ped please.

grave digger
01-05-2010, 09:31 PM
that corvino stuff is ol skool what corvino dogs do you have in them can you put up a ped please.http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...?dog_id=317058 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=317058) RR3000 told me that what he was <!-- / message --> <!-- controls --> http://www.game-dog.com/forums/images/ca_evo_black/buttons/report.gif (http://www.game-dog.com/forums/report.php?p=395481)

Flizzle
08-23-2011, 09:49 PM
I got a Eli and carver cross male check da pedigree outURL: http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=401424

Flizzle
08-23-2011, 09:54 PM
Then I have a female heavy Eli/jeep/carver URL: http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=401792

Mollybee Fan
08-23-2011, 11:17 PM
Mims/Mollybee

bukskin.banks
08-24-2011, 11:08 AM
chinamen/boyles/eli

TDK
08-24-2011, 01:03 PM
You cannot base crosses on bloodline.
Too many lineages are owned by a great number of people to be able to lump them all into one big bag. Especially, the most peddled ones.
Nor, can you judge past crosses of lineages wholesale. For every successful one you see, there are a hundred times more of them having been done in backyards and in garages across the country which have yielded futility. All a matter of the same principle which states that no line is either the same throughout nor is it handled and bred the same throughout.
Many things are more evident because of sales and because of publicity overriding discretion. That doesn't always make them better than what has been done more discretely, yet maybe less often and a lot less publicized.
To me, a question such as this is rather moot. Nothing to really sink your teeth into for accurate judging. People truly do oil the squeakiest wheel.
As far as sizing up quality in dogs is concerned, one can only judge a dog, a small nucleus of dogs, perhaps a yard and sometimes a breeder himself or herself. Any RATIONAL judging is limited to that.
If you deem a cross successful and it has remained consistent, go THERE to seek it out. The individual's yard or good littermates to his or her dogs. Don't run for a perhaps lesser player just because they wear the same colored uniform.

slim1972
08-24-2011, 02:19 PM
JEEP/REDBOY w/a 'SPLASH' of ELI/CARVER (RASCAL)....... Now, WE TALKING! hehehe!

Mkabayi
08-25-2011, 04:56 AM
I prefer my SOI dogs bred to any other line.

shpat
08-25-2011, 05:57 AM
could you help me how to get a dog from this kind of blood japanac's aris japanac's Peggy Sue snakeman prospector's golden ch gr ch rom pedro japanac's sasha

Dred Lok Kennels
08-25-2011, 06:44 AM
You cannot base crosses on bloodline.
Too many lineages are owned by a great number of people to be able to lump them all into one big bag. Especially, the most peddled ones.
Nor, can you judge past crosses of lineages wholesale. For every successful one you see, there are a hundred times more of them having been done in backyards and in garages across the country which have yielded futility. All a matter of the same principle which states that no line is either the same throughout nor is it handled and bred the same throughout.
Many things are more evident because of sales and because of publicity overriding discretion. That doesn't always make them better than what has been done more discretely, yet maybe less often and a lot less publicized.
To me, a question such as this is rather moot. Nothing to really sink your teeth into for accurate judging. People truly do oil the squeakiest wheel.
As far as sizing up quality in dogs is concerned, one can only judge a dog, a small nucleus of dogs, perhaps a yard and sometimes a breeder himself or herself. Any RATIONAL judging is limited to that.
If you deem a cross successful and it has remained consistent, go THERE to seek it out. The individual's yard or good littermates to his or her dogs. Don't run for a perhaps lesser player just because they wear the same colored uniform.

I think this went right over there heads TDK, words of wisdom.....

joelkckit
08-25-2011, 07:13 AM
carver/jeepxbullyson/bolio? well i'm planing to buy that puppy. wat do u think guys?

chef_kergin
08-25-2011, 08:28 AM
You cannot base crosses on bloodline.
Too many lineages are owned by a great number of people to be able to lump them all into one big bag. Especially, the most peddled ones.
Nor, can you judge past crosses of lineages wholesale. For every successful one you see, there are a hundred times more of them having been done in backyards and in garages across the country which have yielded futility. All a matter of the same principle which states that no line is either the same throughout nor is it handled and bred the same throughout.
Many things are more evident because of sales and because of publicity overriding discretion. That doesn't always make them better than what has been done more discretely, yet maybe less often and a lot less publicized.
To me, a question such as this is rather moot. Nothing to really sink your teeth into for accurate judging. People truly do oil the squeakiest wheel.
As far as sizing up quality in dogs is concerned, one can only judge a dog, a small nucleus of dogs, perhaps a yard and sometimes a breeder himself or herself. Any RATIONAL judging is limited to that.
If you deem a cross successful and it has remained consistent, go THERE to seek it out. The individual's yard or good littermates to his or her dogs. Don't run for a perhaps lesser player just because they wear the same colored uniform.

someone recently posted on here something to the extent of, "Good dogs are not where you find them. Good dogs come from good breeders with good dogs." makes nothing but sense to me.

sadieblues
08-26-2011, 08:01 PM
You cannot base crosses on bloodline.
Too many lineages are owned by a great number of people to be able to lump them all into one big bag. Especially, the most peddled ones.
Nor, can you judge past crosses of lineages wholesale. For every successful one you see, there are a hundred times more of them having been done in backyards and in garages across the country which have yielded futility. All a matter of the same principle which states that no line is either the same throughout nor is it handled and bred the same throughout.
Many things are more evident because of sales and because of publicity overriding discretion. That doesn't always make them better than what has been done more discretely, yet maybe less often and a lot less publicized.
To me, a question such as this is rather moot. Nothing to really sink your teeth into for accurate judging. People truly do oil the squeakiest wheel.
As far as sizing up quality in dogs is concerned, one can only judge a dog, a small nucleus of dogs, perhaps a yard and sometimes a breeder himself or herself. Any RATIONAL judging is limited to that.
If you deem a cross successful and it has remained consistent, go THERE to seek it out. The individual's yard or good littermates to his or her dogs. Don't run for a perhaps lesser player just because they wear the same colored uniform.


That's what's up! Preach it to them TDK :) You make all the sense in the world!

yerichoffpits
08-28-2011, 09:54 AM
ome one now iff this is a good cross sorrell x eli

mrstranger
08-28-2011, 04:48 PM
JEEP/REDBOY w/a 'SPLASH' of ELI/CARVER (RASCAL)....... Now, WE TALKING! hehehe!

+ 1. Haha.

Nigerino/boyles
10-04-2011, 11:13 AM
I have a no papered nigerino/boyles male that cross works good.so good noone wants to go hunting with me.

AGK
10-04-2011, 12:34 PM
Eli x bolio

CajunCountryK9
10-04-2011, 01:05 PM
That battle cross...Redboy/Jocko/Bolio/Tombstone!!! :cool:


I'd call that grouping a 'blend'. a cross would be more by the way of the hybridization of two extremely tightly bred families.

ManiacKennel
10-04-2011, 05:20 PM
one my favs is jeep/rb/eli or i also like lonzo/frisco/blk jack cross or lonzo/frisco/jeep/rb i also like eli-carver/lonzo now this is what i use so cant speak for the next mans yard but these crosses been working well for me :dogkiss:

lil mayhem
10-04-2011, 05:38 PM
Bolio/tombstone was base for the fast lane dogs in south america where they run daily

hammer head
10-04-2011, 06:17 PM
bellon x yellow...........

cardenas x astaroth....

I'll take your money and leave you wondering what just happened!

Botswana Kennels
10-04-2011, 07:19 PM
I Personly like the Redboy/ jocko cross. but the fact is that redboy jeep has more winners because jeep was bred way more than either redboy and jocko. therfore redboy jeep is the better cross precentage wise
What do you think the best bloodline cross is?

If you choose Other, please post a reply to explain

Botswana Kennels
10-04-2011, 07:22 PM
The bolio/tombstone cross is great also but that is crossed wit either redboy/jocko or mayday dogs. there isnt that many pure B/T dogs out there anyway. but what made the cross was the rbj/or maydoy cross

rockey
10-22-2011, 11:12 AM
I like the Stompanato-Boomerang/ Butcher Boy cross. Seems to produce more TOTAL PACKAGE offspring. All of the other crosses work real well though I actually have some of them on the yard.

posting here cus i punched in boomerang on the search wanted to spend a few hours reading not much came up i thaught their would be alot ,, and alot that would help us is their another thread or someone start one ???

rockey
10-22-2011, 11:13 AM
a thread just boomerang

nmdogs
12-09-2011, 12:27 AM
What about a yellow/chinaman cross ?

Nmdogs !

maydaymatt
12-09-2011, 06:52 AM
redboy/jocko

fonzie
12-09-2011, 12:11 PM
jeep/ mayday cross

rodeoman069
01-21-2012, 08:53 PM
I have to say nigereno x skull x bullyson

bigeli
01-21-2012, 10:40 PM
im liken the redboy/bolio cross with good eli blood

rodeoman069
01-22-2012, 01:32 PM
good one BIG,

colby good slow lane deep game dogs cross with hard mouth deep game Eli, i like that

Mr.BallHogg
01-22-2012, 02:35 PM
Ill say bolio/tombstone or little Gator/maverick are the best crosses.....

stormyweather
02-12-2012, 12:39 AM
I would have to say A chinaman/bolio cross with pure redboy male, then cross that to a eli/turtlebuster/gator female. Talk bout some good dogs.

stormyweather
02-12-2012, 12:40 AM
:animal_plutoe::)I would have to say A chinaman/bolio cross with pure redboy male, then cross that to a eli/turtlebuster/gator female. Talk bout some good dogs.:wagtail::vovvetliten:

preme
02-15-2012, 03:44 PM
my blend ..lol

dutchy954
02-15-2012, 03:54 PM
Colby to anything

Icepick
02-15-2012, 04:17 PM
Eli x Carver

cincyboy
02-16-2012, 11:24 AM
redboy/jocko but seen some good jeep/redboy/rascal dogs to

MANNY1
02-16-2012, 03:17 PM
Redboy/jocko/jeep

stormyweather
02-16-2012, 08:22 PM
I say the best cross that comes to my mind is a blend of chinnaman/bolio on top pure redboy on bottom outcrossed to a pure eli/gator/turtlebuster female. Talk about some show stoppers.

the.peon
02-16-2012, 08:47 PM
I say the best cross that comes to my mind is a blend of chinnaman/bolio on top pure redboy on bottom outcrossed to a pure eli/gator/turtlebuster female. Talk about some show stoppers.

Nice...It's painfully obvious you have not even an inkling of what you are speaking on.

NY_PITT
02-17-2012, 08:54 PM
Does any one have any photos of Eli x Carver

phill
02-18-2012, 09:47 AM
can't say it's the best but he's a good dog , http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=417657,,

stormyweather
02-19-2012, 02:05 AM
I do no what im talking about. A cross is when a pure bloodline is crossed with another to aquire certin traits. Also to correct any unwanted genes in a certin dog or dogs. The blend that I stated is not a cross at all. Its a selected number of dogs breed together to get the best that those lines have to offer.

garth
02-19-2012, 06:45 AM
Eli/Snooty with a touch of Red boy.

LOS ALTOS
02-19-2012, 09:20 AM
Check out my cross

LOS ALTOS
02-19-2012, 09:21 AM
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=384495

the.peon
02-19-2012, 09:35 AM
I do no what im talking about. A cross is when a pure bloodline is crossed with another to aquire certin traits. Also to correct any unwanted genes in a certin dog or dogs. The blend that I stated is not a cross at all. Its a selected number of dogs breed together to get the best that those lines have to offer.

You are contradicting yourself, lol, not only in this post but in your first one also.

elifan
02-19-2012, 09:43 AM
I like this cross
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=323728

stormyweather
02-19-2012, 05:49 PM
Ok PEON since you no so much about dogs then how about you tell us what you think the best bloodline is or what you think the best cross is? You no so so much about the breed tell me something new. Something that makes since about dogs.

the.peon
02-19-2012, 05:59 PM
Ok PEON since you no so much about dogs then how about you tell us what you think the best bloodline is or what you think the best cross is? You no so so much about the breed tell me something new. Something that makes since about dogs.

I don't think there is a "best" bloodline/family or cross (but there is a particular one that I favor over all others) ...however I do know what I like, and it's sitting right out there in the yard. It's not so much the bloodline as it is the person the dogs are coming from. Yeah the family or blood does have to do something to do with it, but like I said the man or woman behind them is the biggest deciding factor...atleast that's what I believe. I never claimed to know "so so much about the breed", and dealing with folks such as yourself I don't need to...just need to know more than you, and sence you contradict yourself it's really not that hard. Hope this helps :)

nmdogs
02-19-2012, 06:50 PM
I say the best cross that comes to my mind is a blend of chinnaman/bolio on top pure redboy on bottom outcrossed to a pure eli/gator/turtlebuster female. Talk about some show stoppers.

Imo putting that many dogs together is looking for
More trouble then what its worth ! I would think
The hybred vigor your looking for would bring out
More of the bad then the good ...jmo

Cadibuck
02-19-2012, 07:26 PM
Does any one have any photos of Eli x Carver
A photo of Eli X Carver? How about this my man..I'm gonna give you a lil homework. Do some research..put in some time learning the history of these animals. Then I want you to come back and tell us who this influential Eli X Carver stud dog is. Or you can just tell me to go fuck myself.23702

stormyweather
02-26-2012, 09:12 PM
Imo putting that many dogs together is looking for
More trouble then what its worth ! I would think
The hybred vigor your looking for would bring out
More of the bad then the good ...jmo


What should I look for. What I have seen so far are some good dogs, that dont have alot of health issues. Ive been breeding these lines for 8 years now. I cant complain at all. They are all beautiful dogs that have smarts, extreme gameness lots of mouth teeht are big as ever, also they weight 25-40 pounds. I like this breeding.

wisconsingame
02-26-2012, 11:17 PM
Well I have about 6 different bloodlines on my yard. But my favorite is mayday x chinaman. Cross with a little touch of Jeep nigario. So that sum up to redboy Eli cross. I also like lonzo chinaman RB jeep cross. I am also trying a new cross for me. My pure mayfield male to my RB/jocko bolio bitch

wisconsingame
02-26-2012, 11:28 PM
My favorite bitch ped#406303

the.peon
02-27-2012, 07:29 PM
What should I look for. What I have seen so far are some good dogs, that dont have alot of health issues. Ive been breeding these lines for 8 years now. I cant complain at all. They are all beautiful dogs that have smarts, extreme gameness lots of mouth teeht are big as ever, also they weight 25-40 pounds. I like this breeding.

I rest my case, lol, what a joke.

BBT
02-27-2012, 07:43 PM
Wtf??? I swear some are either fcukin with us, kids, or cops etc. some shit I just don't believe or even believe that they believe. Like its a joke. I guess I'm out of it.

rroscoe
02-29-2012, 02:38 PM
Sorrells has proven Dead game against the best for some time I'm impressed by there will to go ...I think lightner hemphill had alittle more athletic ability ..but today Sorrells are a nice proven dog

phill
02-29-2012, 06:14 PM
you schould wright for that mag they say the same thing about thoes dogs ,,my blood boyles hope the next issue cools me down

rroscoe
03-01-2012, 04:16 PM
Lightner Hemphill cross Heihle ..spell check...lol

Cadibuck
03-01-2012, 07:24 PM
rroscoe you're funny with this stuff..

rroscoe
03-02-2012, 08:30 AM
I like the jeep/rascal X boudreaux. This works good for me. My dogs are smart and they have a hard bite, and they catch hogs.
This is what it's all about ,I've seen the best on paper not do good and something someone combined getting the best of the two be on fire ..sounds like great combo

rroscoe
03-02-2012, 08:37 AM
I'm retired just lost last one I bred he was 16 ...so been away from it with life just know ,Bert Sorrells ,had some game dogs that would not quit ,from the pit two miles in ..lol what I had ne ver lost and I sold everyone money back guaranteed not to stop I can be alittle more open since so much time has past ..and I really don't know what the best in the game today as likke I said one bad breeding can ruin alot I hope people are selling what they say and trying to improve the performance with every breeding as I did is all...

allaboutpitbull
03-02-2012, 08:51 AM
i like a good OFRN bitch with a good working bred Clemons or Eli/Yellow dog fixes most conformation issues with out sacrificing working ability

Tony t
03-15-2012, 05:51 PM
Iam not qualified to say whats "Best" but I have 2 that are Red Devil / Red Boy and iam very happy with what they bring to the table. High Intelligence, Gameness, ability. Excellent temperment as well.

alejo
03-24-2012, 12:10 AM
I would say Redboy/Jocko/Eli

labulldoger
03-24-2012, 12:18 AM
i really think alot had to do with who was breeding them, put f boudreax,b sorell,r boyles,d busenbark,g hammond with any line and in 3 gens they would have aces, jmo

ESK
03-25-2012, 01:43 PM
http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=398085

tomariojr
03-27-2012, 10:25 PM
Naw Bro the most famous Cross of all time is the Eli x Carver cross :D

i agree eli/carver thats what im running

tomariojr
03-27-2012, 10:28 PM
eli x carver x chinaman thats whut im running

tomariojr
03-27-2012, 10:30 PM
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=324293

elifan
03-28-2012, 07:31 AM
so basically you like chinaman bred dog's

bullfrog_luke70
03-30-2012, 07:33 PM
I like those BATTLE CROSSES

bullfrog_luke70
03-30-2012, 07:41 PM
I have to say mayday/chinamen with a 2x winner bitch n 1x male I think its a sure thing.

bobby b
04-06-2012, 10:05 PM
ive done some crossing with maverick down thru skull and red boy. also putting tha joe bob stuff in off tha fat mack stuff. working nice

mr.cujo
05-18-2012, 02:37 PM
I think that the best that works for me is redboy/snooty/bolio

38nonstop
05-28-2012, 01:03 AM
why do people say stuff like "jeep x eli" "chinaman x eli" "rascal x eli" when all 3 of those dogs ARE Eli dogs... lol

Mashamplan
05-28-2012, 03:18 AM
How is Jeep or Chinaman , Eli. They have Eli in them but theres other lines as well. Honeybunch, if her ped is to be believed , was off Eli's son bred to a carver female, so how much Eli/ Bullyson does that make Jeep?

38nonstop
05-28-2012, 04:10 AM
thats both of their great grandsire... so they are down from eli themselves 12.5% eli for jeep, 18.75% eli for chinaman..

biggadam419
05-29-2012, 11:03 AM
wow......................

Lee D
05-29-2012, 11:20 AM
imo best results is not about crossing lines as it is just a matter of sticking good dogs and crossing your fingers.

Hachiman
05-31-2012, 05:48 PM
carver x eli or carver x chinamen that is what i run in my yard great dogs and beautiful pups

CHINAMAN IS an ELI/CARVER cross.

Hachiman
05-31-2012, 05:52 PM
why do people say stuff like "jeep x eli" "chinaman x eli" "rascal x eli" when all 3 of those dogs ARE Eli dogs... lol

A lot of people don't believe that HONEYBUNCH is actually off of BULLYSON. Yes, her papers say she is, but who really knows?

BBT
05-31-2012, 06:38 PM
It's not the blood it's the yards. It's the honest men. You give good blood to a fool and youll end up with low percentages. How many honest men in this game can you or could you ever have gotten a dog from?

Hachiman
05-31-2012, 06:48 PM
I can count 7 honest dogmen that I got dogs from through the years. Then you had those who would sell good lines to certain people, and other inferior lines to other people.

Mashamplan
05-31-2012, 11:37 PM
thats both of their great grandsire... so they are down from eli themselves 12.5% eli for jeep, 18.75% eli for chinaman..

I know the percentages according to their pedigrees, but still I have to ask why are they Eli? It seems a lot of people dont seem to want to credit the other dogs in the Honeybunch and Chinaman peds for how they turned out. Eli has impacted the game in a great way through his offspring like Eli Jr, Bullyson, Brendy, Ch. Tom (sire of Ch. Saloon) and what they produced, but claiming Jeep is Eli because Honeybunch is off Bullyson seems to be stretching it a bit. Its like saying Mayday is a RedBoy dog because he is off Yellow. That would be ignoring the fact that Jocko , Tombstone and Bolio contribute to his make up. So Jeep in my eyes would be more Bo or Honeybunch than Eli. Could be wrong in my reasoning though and so Im open to correction.

TripleJ
06-01-2012, 07:53 AM
It's not the blood it's the yards. It's the honest men. You give good blood to a fool and youll end up with low percentages. How many honest men in this game can you or could you ever have gotten a dog from?

Yep. Thats A fact!!!!

Kenaii
06-03-2012, 04:48 PM
Redboy x Jeep

Also like a Redboy x Sorrells Dog..

RegalRedKennel
06-03-2012, 08:14 PM
Red Devil/Eli

Hachiman
06-03-2012, 09:55 PM
RED BOY/HONEYBUNCH That includes a touch of RASCAL JR

Mashamplan
06-03-2012, 10:27 PM
RedBoy Jocko/ Saloon (Butch)

p.sutton
06-07-2012, 03:29 PM
i like boyles bolio or eli bolio i have it crossed all kind of ways but bolio dogs is num 1 in my book hands down !!!!!!

Hachiman
06-10-2012, 08:52 PM
I know the percentages according to their pedigrees, but still I have to ask why are they Eli? It seems a lot of people dont seem to want to credit the other dogs in the Honeybunch and Chinaman peds for how they turned out. Eli has impacted the game in a great way through his offspring like Eli Jr, Bullyson, Brendy, Ch. Tom (sire of Ch. Saloon) and what they produced, but claiming Jeep is Eli because Honeybunch is off Bullyson seems to be stretching it a bit. Its like saying Mayday is a RedBoy dog because he is off Yellow. That would be ignoring the fact that Jocko , Tombstone and Bolio contribute to his make up. So Jeep in my eyes would be more Bo or Honeybunch than Eli. Could be wrong in my reasoning though and so Im open to correction.

OK, here is where people get all riled up. Just because papers say a dog is off of a certain sire or dam doesn't mean that that is actually the case.

HONEYBUNCH is rumored to be off of IRONHEAD, and not BULLYSON.

BO is rumored to not be off of DUBS and a nephew of Mr Loposay stated that there was actually no such dog as DUBS anyway. This was an older cousin of Patsy that claims he was there when DOT was bred to a dog that old man Loposay had on his yard and was only supposed to breed 5 times and then send back. DOT supposedly came in heat after that 5th breeding had taken place and she was backed up to the borrowed dog and the resulting litter had to be papered as being off of another dog.

So, if these rumors are true, then JEEP's pedigree is actually unknown except to a few privileged souls.

Why people worry about pedigrees except for the individuals they have actual first hand knowledge as actually being in the makeup of the dog is beyond me anyway. I can only guarantee a breeding as far back as I have actually owned and bred the individuals in it.

deerhunter
06-11-2012, 09:02 AM
Frisco/Lee Ling is my vote, it has proven to be a successful combination.

bubbanene1
06-12-2012, 08:30 AM
where can you get that cross?

Mr.Revolution
06-13-2012, 08:37 AM
I have to say mayday/chinamen with a 2x winner bitch n 1x male I think its a sure thing.
Would a 5x winner bitch n 4x male make it a more sure thing?lol

feastodg
06-13-2012, 10:43 AM
Would a 5x winner bitch n 4x male make it a more sure thing?lol


No, a sure thing would be a 5x whiner bitch and a 3x female.

Hachiman
06-13-2012, 09:41 PM
OK, here's the truth about breeding:

Each time you stick 2 dogs together to produce offspring, it's nothing more than a crapshoot.

If the genes line up in just the right way, you come up with gold. If not, you end up with crap.

That is the honest truth.

You improve your odds with predominant individuals. A predominant individual is an individual that throws a higher percentage of genetic gold.

screaming_eli
07-22-2012, 09:10 PM
i just got a maverick/six bits on top chinaman/el negro on bottom...lmk what you think?

Jim R
07-23-2012, 07:52 AM
i just got a maverick/six bits on top chinaman/el negro on bottom...lmk what you think?

could be fun, could be cur. keep us posted. :)

i'm wondering what a predominant redboy x nigerino/stp would cross better with, tight redboy or spike/chinaman...

Joej
07-23-2012, 02:16 PM
Have done some good crosses with this fella....

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [164913] :: MIGHTY QUINN II (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=164913)


Really like crossing this into some good cravers blood or some good boyles.

sierra
07-28-2012, 07:50 AM
I have a yellowjohn boyles x female she show a terrific drive when needed but not to much mouth what will be good to get more mouth and keep the drive she has

Bmf_bt
07-28-2012, 12:13 PM
Im gonna say jeep/redboy with a quarter out through some eli stuff, rascal works. OR Boyles to either eli or bolio... or both. Eli is always a must in a good cross, dont have to be a mayor part, but atleast a 1/4 of the ped should consist of eli-bred dogs if you ask me.

Bmf_bt
07-28-2012, 12:33 PM
correction, jeep/RBJ

preme
07-28-2012, 01:24 PM
sixbits maverick and add a lil toby in there. see you in the "fastlane"

YuP works quite well

preme
07-28-2012, 01:29 PM
You cannot base crosses on bloodline.
Too many lineages are owned by a great number of people to be able to lump them all into one big bag. Especially, the most peddled ones.
Nor, can you judge past crosses of lineages wholesale. For every successful one you see, there are a hundred times more of them having been done in backyards and in garages across the country which have yielded futility. All a matter of the same principle which states that no line is either the same throughout nor is it handled and bred the same throughout.
Many things are more evident because of sales and because of publicity overriding discretion. That doesn't always make them better than what has been done more discretely, yet maybe less often and a lot less publicized.
To me, a question such as this is rather moot. Nothing to really sink your teeth into for accurate judging. People truly do oil the squeakiest wheel.
As far as sizing up quality in dogs is concerned, one can only judge a dog, a small nucleus of dogs, perhaps a yard and sometimes a breeder himself or herself. Any RATIONAL judging is limited to that.
If you deem a cross successful and it has remained consistent, go THERE to seek it out. The individual's yard or good littermates to his or her dogs. Don't run for a perhaps lesser player just because they wear the same colored uniform.
Bump for great post

preme
07-28-2012, 01:36 PM
Wat ever takes working and culling and seeing wat% of good versus bad your getting from the breedings

BlacksDiamond
11-27-2012, 07:26 PM
Im new online and I have jeep/bullyson/mayday.Only problem they dony know how to stop.

87buick
11-27-2012, 08:31 PM
Its clear that there is epidemic of dreamers posting way to much on this board. Come on man be for real, how the hell are you gonna come on and post
I have a dog bred this way what do you think?
I have a dog bred this way what do you think would cross best?
Dam man for real?! These are questions you ask yourself and your peeps. Somebody you rolling with better know what the hell there doing if you don't.
There is know way in hell to know anything about a dog and its capabilities till you take the hard road with it, not hypothetically.
Some of you are internet dogging and dont even realize it. Cut that shit out! You sound straight stupid because you bought a dog then you come on here asking questions that should of been asked way before you got the dog. Because it is a dog till proven other, then its a bulldog.
What right does it give a man to breed his unproven dog? If your coming on here asking shit like I been reading all day long, what the fuck are you doing?
Sorry if I ranted but some folks get me heated.

fat man
01-28-2013, 06:25 PM
I like Zebo/Eli crosses...

let the church say amen or t-budxchinaman

cantlose
01-28-2013, 10:15 PM
Jeep rascal and redboy rascal are putting real bulldogs on the ground and have been for quite sometime now. Plenty of other crosses have put honest dogs in the game. Those are just my preference.